10 Signs for Spotting a Sociopath

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
After reading the list above you can see why they are singled out in boot camp and other fields for certain OP's Teams and Organizations.

I wonder if they have certain techniques for spotting them. Or maybe it just becomes obvious after while.

About the military using sociopaths, I'm reminded of the old HBO Documentary about the hitman Richard Kuklinski, where there was a doctor diagnosing Kuklinski with several personality disorders and saying that some people with personality disorders find ways of being beneficial to society. One example the doctor gave is that people who do not feel fear in pressure situations could be good at defusing bombs. I'm sure the military has many uses for every type of personality disorder that exists.

[noprophet]

God forbid people lack strong emotional reactions.

That's never been used against anyone.... Xx

911, ww2, advertising, propoganda

Do not believe social pathologies are inherently destructive. Just lines in the sand.

[Sidney]

My ex sociopath had fear, of snakes believe it or not. Explain that one. he screamed like a little girl when he saw a snake from over 10 feet away. Is that ironic? Or worse. : /

[Linda Joy Crutcher]

It has been given me this way:

We are here to discover who we are. I don't mean this in terms of who we are spiritually. . . we all actually know who we are spiritually and just haven't brought it to consciousness. This realm is one of condensed energy and reflection. Every aspect of consciousness must be demonstrated here; present itself to us so that we may observe and find our relationship with it. We are learning what god (that's us) does when it is separated from itself, living in duality and with free will. We are looking at human nature and how it functions as individualized deities in many different psychologies.

We cannot know ALL that we are if we cannot SEE what we think we are not. The objective is to observe these different levels of consciousness, recognize ourselves in them (however slight), and how they impact us as a whole. What exists in mind, exists in us all; we are one mind, one body and one love. Only through understanding will we come to true love of self and others.

We are preoccupied with finding that 'thing' outside, or inside, of ourselves and missing the magnificence of the human experience simply by paying attention and listening to the minds and hearts in front of us. We negate this idea of oneness by continuing to see separation in our own human connectedness and earthly experience.

Alien intelligence has come to me for answers as to why we do what we do here; they cannot understand it. Many here do not understand what they are doing or why they are here. We are one planetary experiment in zillions and more privileged than we know. We get to be and touch physical, tangible, visual, audible and loving god through each other, while we learn how destructive we can be because of the gifts we've been given, like free will and egos to get us through it!


Sociopaths are blessings to us; they extract the needs in us so we can see them; they teach us how easily manipulated we are when we misplace trust; they show us how man in his ego state functions when he is devoid of an emotional or love base; he shows us what we are, in our human form, capable of when we operate from the point of mind only; he is the answer to the question of why people like Hitler can do what they do.

[Linda Joy Crutcher]

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[Linda Joy Crutcher]

Sociopaths have no fear of people, not the natural world. They do recognize their vulnerability to nature's creatures. . they are brilliant, remember?

[Linda Joy Crutcher]

On this subject, it was given me that sociopaths come into the realm that way. There is no cause nor cure for their mental state. . . it is what it is. Psychopaths, on the other hand are created by early childhood trauma and their psychocology can be changed via therapy.

If this information is correct; sociopaths are here for a specific reason; to teach us something very specific. Psychopaths mimic sociopathic behavior, but have chosen the psychology in order to learn their way out of it as they teach others.

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Posted by Eram (here)
"The most commonly accepted predeterminant of sociopathy would be a grave degree of early parental neglect"

Thanks for the link Eram. If sociopaths are born, not made, then there may be some genetic basis, so therefore it would seem likely that their parents would be somewhere on the sociopathic spectrum, so therefore, not great nurturers.

“But self-medicating substance use or abuse is a component of all mental illnesses”

This perhaps comes from the psychiatric perspective that only the medical profession can tell us which drugs we need. Self-medication is not damaging in the empowered and aware individual, and there is always the shamanistic application of drugs. Of course, drug abuse is a problem, but the definition of drug abuse depends on where we sit within society

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Posted by Sérénité (here)

In my experience, they cant be defeated. My only solace is to ignore them, avoid them and most importantly, give them absolutely no way to control over you.
This is what they yearn for and desire the most, adoration and control.

Thank you for your personal testimony, and thank you for the good advice highlighted above, which I highlight to bring before our gaze again.

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Posted by seeker/reader (here)
Maybe the reason these type of people feel no love/remorse/empathy is due to the fact that they lack the soul component that rest of population has.

Without the soul, they have no connection to the divine source, through which love emanates. These people are strictly human animals that operate as a predatory animal would, predate on others in order to survive. Without the soul connection they would learn to mimic others who do demonstrate "normal behaviors" in order for them to hide or camouflage themselves, as a predator would so as to not give their position away.

Now I am not saying that all animals lack a soul component. I look at my dog and do see something behind her eyes and in her behavior that I feel indicates that she does have a soul, but that is a topic for another thread.......

Yes, they themselves refer to this mask they develop. This comment made me think of the “Predator” film, and I could easily see this predator as a metaphor for, or analogue of, the sociopath.

This may tie into a possibility that I have entertained that perhaps the provenance of the sociopath is not terrestrial

Yes, animals have a soul component in my experience 

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Posted by Linda Joy Crutcher (here)
I will tell you what I have been given about sociopathy. 1) They come into the realm as sociopaths and are not created. They are living in mind without the benefit of an emotional body to balance them. The only emotional reality they have is the impact upon themselves because of circumstances they can't control. They are brilliant maniuplators by reflecting exactly what others want to hear or believe. They are human consciousness without an emotional base and they are fascinating!

2) Sociopaths teach us much about ourselves in that we fall 'victim' to their persuasions quickly and put trust into them absolutely. The question is not, what are they doing, but; what are we doing? These people have a masterful ability to tell us exactly what we want to hear and believe, and if we look back and examine our participation in those relationships, we can easily acknowledge what is was in ourselves that needed to hear and believe what they had to dish out.

People who engage with sociopaths always get hurt because they misplace trust. In many, if not most cases, sociopaths calculate to get something; usually money or material treasures (they have no interest in hearts except to manipulate them). Because they live in mind and have no concept of how they impact people emotionally, they simply play an emotional game in order to extract what they want. Most people are looking for love and are easy prey for the 3) cleaver mind of the sociopath; we become so-called victims because we are emotionally void.

It is imperative to observe and listen before putting trust into anyone. The only thing we can trust is that each person will be who he is and perform according to the consciousness in which we lives. When we pay attention, signs always surface as to what we're dealing with.

Sociopaths are here to show us what we're capable of while experiencing ourselves in a separated or dual state, without an emotional body. We learn compassion and love through the emotional body and because of that, are less likely to target others for material gain. However, as evidenced by history, people across the board are capable of sociopathic behavior; it's the greed factor!

Hope that helps you understand this psychology a little better.

Thanks Linda joy. 1) This is a concept over which there is much debate! Though it is probably of less importance than how to spot and deal with them.

2) This is very important. We create our reality in everything we say and do. The concept of the vacuum inside us ties into the phenomenon of "possession", which if you are interested you may read my take on in my thread Entities, possession and psychic attack

3) cleaver mind/clever mind: both are appropriate

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I think the lists have described pretty much every one i know ...

even me ! " They often appear to be sexy " i have often been toold i am sexy .... for an ant that is : 0 )


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[DouglasDanger]

I disagree fully, as a child of a sociopath, learning thier naturre who and what they come from is not easy. When they are attempting to teach thier brand of sociopathy is when you learn where when and by whom thier sociopathic button was pressed, once pressed it cannot be easily turned off, as it is an off button to begin with, you turn off your caring for anything else but yourself... But IMHO it is a button or switch that is pressed or turned off, Not something you are born with. We learn to become a sociopath from our mothers and fathers, aunts and uncles grandfathers and grand mothers.... It is labeled " family tradition" most of the time it is hidden..( competition and sport is an in your face display of training for sociopaths, " you must be number one, must be the smartest, must be the the most liked and popular, you must be the best"..). This would explain why certain families generation after generation have so many prominant sociopaths and psycopaths. It is something they have been teaching thier offspring for many generations..

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Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
I think the lists have described pretty much every one i know ...

even me ! " They often appear to be sexy " i have often been toold i am sexy .... for an ant that is : 0 )


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haha, gives new meaning to the phrase "ants in your pants"

DouglasDanger: I disagree fully, as a child of a sociopath, learning thier naturre who and what they come from is not easy. When they are attempting to teach thier brand of sociopathy is when you learn where when and by whom thier sociopathic button was pressed, once pressed it cannot be easily turned off, as it is an off button to begin with, you turn off your caring for anything else but yourself... But IMHO it is a button or switch that is pressed or turned off, Not something you are born with. We learn to become a sociopath from our mothers and fathers, aunts and uncles grandfathers and grand mothers.... It is labeled " family tradition" most of the time it is hidden..( competition and sport is an in your face display of training for sociopaths, " you must be number one, must be the smartest, must be the the most liked and popular, you must be the best"..). This would explain why certain families generation after generation have so many prominant sociopaths and psycopaths. It is something they have been teaching thier offspring for many generations..

As already mentioned, the debate rages over nature or nurture, but my take is that in most things, it is most likely a bit of both. The best example of the nature/nurture problem I can think of is the case of the 1960s London gangster twins Reggie and Ronnie Kray. Identical twins, identical upbringing, yet one was heterosexual, and one was homosexual. For me, the logical solution to this is that each identical twin has a individual soul, and one needed to be straight to learn what was needed in this lifetime, the other needed to be gay. Nature and nurture debates often neglect to consider the "spiritual" or energetic contect within which we all function. By the time they were fully mature, the "identical" twins were very different facially, behaviourally, tempermentally, and bodily.

[Carmody]

Tribal religion is the giant gauze or cover, that is thrust over and in the gaping wound of grouped sociopathy. This is both genetic and taught/learned.

Ie, the killer is many times deep into the world of tribal religions. The very face of us vs them. Tribal religion is inherently damaging to humanity, as a form of entrenched sociopathy, which is handed down through generations, polluting and shaping the gene pool of said adherents, all along the way.

The book never changes, the people shift themselves and their genetic expression to it. Extreme danger, here.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

The question is , do you have ants in your pants ? and if not , would you like some ? ba haaa baaa !

im so sexy right nooow !


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[SieS]

Hi, I am not a frequent poster here but like to add my 2 cent here. I thoroughly investigated this subject a long time ago and although the subject is well covered in this thread, there are two books that are invaluable and not yet mentioned. Both are downloadable:

1 is: Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work.

Researchers Paul Babiak and Robert Hare have long studied psychopaths. Hare, the author of Without Conscience, is a world-renowned expert on psychopathy, and Babiak is an industrial-organizational psychologist. Recently the two came together to study how psychopaths operate in corporations, and the results were surprising. They found that it's exactly the modern, open, more flexible corporate world, in which high risks can equal high profits, that attracts psychopaths. They may enter as rising stars and corporate saviors, but all too soon they're abusing the trust of colleagues, manipulating supervisors, and leaving the workplace in shambles.

and 2. Ups and Downs a book by Ruth Minshull

[Sidney]

Im afraid saying they are a blessing is stretching it a bit. They may serve a purpose for us to learn our weaknesses and vulnerabilities, but my ex was/is anything BUT a blessing.
My beautiful child is a blessing. My animals are blessings. The roof over my head, and the car in my garage, food on the table, blessings.......Someone who brought nothing but pain and chaos and stripped me of my well being (temporarily), a blessing????NOT SO MUCH.We will have to agree to disagree on that one.

[music]

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
Im afraid saying they are a blessing is stretching it a bit. They may serve a purpose for us to learn our weaknesses and vulnerabilities, but my ex was/is anything BUT a blessing.
My beautiful child is a blessing. My animals are blessings. The roof over my head, and the car in my garage, food on the table, blessings.......Someone who brought nothing but pain and chaos and stripped me of my well being (temporarily), a blessing????NOT SO MUCH.We will have to agree to disagree on that one.

I know exactly where you are coming from here. I sorrow for your past pain, but I am happy that you have survived, and that your life is now full of blessings. I would like to share something from my past though, that has relevance here. This is not advice from me to you, merely my perspective, one of many.

I was sexually abused as a child, pretty badly, and repeatedly. Despite my avatar, I am a male, and my abuse was uncovered when my mother discovered that my anus was bleeding. I was five years old. Initially, this was anything but a blessing for me. I retreated into myself, eventually repressing the entire memory. As a teen, I engaged in self-destructive behaviour, developed a kind of super-hero complex where I wanted to save the world, and if I was hurt or killed in the process, that was OK by me. I bear the physical scars of some of these exploits to this day. The emotional scars, however, are no longer there.

While on one level, I was in denial, on another level, I was in the deepest truth. I began having spiritual visions by the time I was seven. I became the quite observer, I developed empathy, a capacity for wonder, a desire for love. Eventually, after years of self-destructive behaviour, I started to address the issue. I really went off the rails as a teen when the memory resurfaced, but luckily found my way through, and had the good fortune to meet some amazing people, right when I needed to. My journey has very much been shaped by my experience, and there is no doubt in my mind that I wouldn't be the kind, loving, and (I think) aware person I am today had it not been for the abuse I suffered, and all that followed.

If I could go back in time and change what happened to me, I wouldn't. In doing so, or even in wishing to do so, I am saying there is something wrong with the person I am today. It was all part of my journey, and I am happy where it has led me so far. I have no residual ill-feeling toward my abuser. This doesn't mean I condone what he did, merely that what he did no longer has any power over me. Far from it. I am empowered, not disempowered.

[Sidney]

Posted by music (here)

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
Im afraid saying they are a blessing is stretching it a bit. They may serve a purpose for us to learn our weaknesses and vulnerabilities, but my ex was/is anything BUT a blessing.
My beautiful child is a blessing. My animals are blessings. The roof over my head, and the car in my garage, food on the table, blessings.......Someone who brought nothing but pain and chaos and stripped me of my well being (temporarily), a blessing????NOT SO MUCH.We will have to agree to disagree on that one.

I know exactly where you are coming from here. I sorrow for your past pain, but I am happy that you have survived, and that your life is now full of blessings. I would like to share something from my past though, that has relevance here. This is not advice from me to you, merely my perspective, one of many.

I was sexually abused as a child, pretty badly, and repeatedly. Despite my avatar, I am a male, and my abuse was uncovered when my mother discovered that my anus was bleeding. I was five years old. Initially, this was anything but a blessing for me. I retreated into myself, eventually repressing the entire memory. As a teen, I engaged in self-destructive behaviour, developed a kind of super-hero complex where I wanted to save the world, and if I was hurt or killed in the process, that was OK by me. I bear the physical scars of some of these exploits to this day. The emotional scars, however, are no longer there.

While on one level, I was in denial, on another level, I was in the deepest truth. I began having spiritual visions by the time I was seven. I became the quite observer, I developed empathy, a capacity for wonder, a desire for love. Eventually, after years of self-destructive behaviour, I started to address the issue. I really went off the rails as a teen when the memory resurfaced, but luckily found my way through, and had the good fortune to meet some amazing people, right when I needed to. My journey has very much been shaped by my experience, and there is no doubt in my mind that I wouldn't be the kind, loving, and (I think) aware person I am today had it not been for the abuse I suffered, and all that followed.

If I could go back in time and change what happened to me, I wouldn't. In doing so, or even in wishing to do so, I am saying there is something wrong with the person I am today. It was all part of my journey, and I am happy where it has led me so far. I have no residual ill-feeling toward my abuser. This doesn't mean I condone what he did, merely that what he did no longer has any power over me. Far from it. I am empowered, not disempowered.

Wow music, thank you for sharing, and I am so sorry for what you endured as a child. i do now understand your point!! And you are farther down the road than I in the forgiveness department. You are indeed very insightful, and you are so right about how our experiences shape our journey.
Hugs and Blessings to you.