Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

[Hervé]

Posted by turiya (here)
[...]

... and the so-called missing finger is a bit hard to be certain that it is actually missing, imo. The image of his left hand needs further analysis - somebody with a high def imaging program, perhaps could bring out the detail better.

[...]

Jeff Bauman is indeed Jeff Bauman, ain't no Nick Vogt there:

WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC!

[witchy1]

In another twist......Its the Greenberg again!!



This is from a Sandy Hook piece re the Greenbergs and Wohls and others- worth a read IMHO


http://nodisinfo.com/Home/sandy-hook...ime-syndicate/

[turiya]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by turiya (here)
[...]

... and the so-called missing finger is a bit hard to be certain that it is actually missing, imo. The image of his left hand needs further analysis - somebody with a high def imaging program, perhaps could bring out the detail better.

[...]

Jeff Bauman is indeed Jeff Bauman, ain't no Nick Vogt there:

I agree that they are two different people.
I added another vid in my last post, that suggests that the man in the wheel chair (Jeff Bauman) could still be an actor. The donation fund is well over a million dollars at present... (as it was told in that first vid I posted)...

care to address this?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-7l73BxWr0Q

turiya

[witchy1]

Just as a FYI - From Truma surgeons

The femoral artery blood flow is around 600ml/minute,
An average person has 5000ml of blood.
Jeff allegedly has TWO severed femoral arteries,
He should be stone-dead in FOUR minutes if his femoral arteries were not clamped within ONE minute,
He would need a large volume of saline to replace the lost blood to keep his blood pressure up to prevent cardiac arrest within TWO minutes

It looks like a de-gloving injury to the lower leg but where is the fibula?

What about the flopping or loose flaps of ‘skin.’ Those flaps make no sense and have never before been seen in human anatomy

It can be seen that it is all fake, teflon and putty. No skin in the universe is that thick.

http://nodisinfo.com/Home/who-is-jef...tor-or-victim/

[Hervé]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
Just as a FYI - From Truma surgeons

The femoral artery blood flow is around 600ml/minute,
An average person has 5000ml of blood.
Jeff allegedly has TWO severed femoral arteries,
He should be stone-dead in FOUR minutes if his femoral arteries were not clamped within ONE minute,
He would need a large volume of saline to replace the lost blood to keep his blood pressure up to prevent cardiac arrest within TWO minutes

It looks like a de-gloving injury to the lower leg but where is the fibula?

What about the flopping or loose flaps of ‘skin.’ Those flaps make no sense and have never before been seen in human anatomy

It can be seen that it is all fake, teflon and putty. No skin in the universe is that thick.

http://nodisinfo.com/Home/who-is-jef...tor-or-victim/

Sorry witchy1 but you would have to go back in this thread and find the posts by myself and Vivek that point out that, anatomically, femoral arteries stop above knees. The lady in blue had a leg cut out at the hip and didn't make it.

Then there is a physiological response to injuries which contracts muscles and shuts down blood circulation to a minimum, at least for a while.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by REILLY (here)
For anyone interested, a recent interview of Joseph P. Farrell discussing this topic and more....


http://www.thebyteshow.com/Audio/Jos...pr2013_TBS.mp3

Aha - GeorgeAnn Hughes and TheByteShow interviewing Joseph P. Farrell once again - cool - thanks .

[InCiDeR]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
..So, this guy:



My previous post regarding this guy was complete sarcasm from the fact that the pic's legend says no scratch in spite of his legs displaying plenty of 'em scratches. But of course one does need to look...

I am sorry Amzer Zo, but I am not driven by sarcasm, especially not in a case like this... but if that is important for you, please continue. I see now that I should have rephrased my statement regarding this picture, more like "He has lesser marks on his skin than expected, considering his ripped apart clothes!". That would have been closer to how I interpret the picture.

Posted by InCiDeR
But that is also the only blood I discovered so far in the video.

Posted by Amzer Zo
From my estimation, the whole clip was taken within the first 15 -20 seconds after the initial flash, that's before the smoke comes back down.

Posted by Amzer Zo
It seems, also, that no one finds it odd that he is no longer wearing shoes... just bloody socks...

That is very strange indeed, wonder what happened to his shoes.

Posted by Amzer Zo
Look at the spot he was sitting over... fresh blood there.

I had some hard time spotting this first, I must get myself a bigger screen than my laptop and more sophisticated software. But after downloading the video, as you suggested, I managed to get the right frames.

Posted by Amzer Zo
Look at his left calf when he turns around and start falling down (no blood but charred + white stuff sticking on his calf).

Yeah, I noticed that as well.

Posted by Amzer Zo
Look at the knees of the lady in red sweater and black jacket sitting in front of him at the beginning of the clip.

Nice catch, that one I completely missed first time!

Posted by Amzer Zo
Look at the lady's twisted foot.

I noticed that as well. She managed to move the foot a bit twice, still with that scary angle though, so hopefully they will be able to save it.

Posted by Amzer Zo
Look at the right hand of the guy in the the grey hoodie, sitting behind the black lady in front of Jeff, when he moves it.

Yeah, I saw that as well.

Posted by Amzer Zo
Have another look at the runaway guy's legs and compare to the pictures I posted above.

Same goes with this guy. Less marks than expected considering what the clothes tells me.

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Overall, I still find it strange that there are not more blood in that scene we are discussing. In my point of view, I expected more, even though I am not an expert when it comes to explosives. However there are much more blood further away from the spot the video is showing, as this picture shows:



This scene seems to be further away from the bomb, if I understand it correctly... so I am puzzled.

It is a sad fact though, that we have reached a point in which we have to analyze horrifying pictures because we don't trust the power that be...

[witchy1]

This wouldnt be a wheelchair would it?????

[Hervé]

Posted by InCiDeR (here)
[...]

It is a sad fact though, that we have reached a point in which we have to analyze horrifying pictures because we don't trust the power that be...

... or because gootubers are cashing in on outrageous theories that are trendy.

The guy's right leg has been "salted" with a ball bearing/BB gunshot blast. The clothes shredding is mostly due to the initial blast compression shock wave which first compresses the air around and then suddenly expands which is then followed by the vacuum flow-back of the air towards the source spot of the detonation.

A pressure cooker full of explosives and no shrapnel would have blown clothes to shreds without almost any injuries. Imagine a sudden gale on a flabby spinnaker.

This is where the sarcasm stemed from:

No scratches on his legs?

Regarding the shoes, most of them were blown off feet, like with the "Guy #2": no shoe on his injured foot while his right shoe remained intact on his right foot.

As for this:

Overall, I still find it strange that there are not more blood in that scene we are discussing. In my point of view, I expected more, even though I am not an expert when it comes to explosives. However there are much more blood further away from this spot, as this picture shows:

This scene seems to be further away from the bomb, if I understand it correctly... so I am puzzled.

I guess you missed this post of mine:

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Posted by witchy1 (here)
This wouldnt be a wheelchair would it?????

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How about a shoe?

[witchy1]

Sorry Amzer Zo - look at the other leg



Looks like he has had a double AKA in this photo
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/who-is-jef...tor-or-victim/

[witchy1]

Boston maraton as a dry run disaster (article from 2008)

According to BEMS chief Richard Serino, his department considers events like the marathon and the Fourth of July celebration as planned disasters - "safe, controlled environments that present "an opportunity to test some things you would never want to test in a real disaster."

Although the principal goal during such events remains the safety of everyone involved, organizers have realized that these annual gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people present the perfect opportunity to evaluate new technologies, exercise disaster plans, and build vital relationships between public safety agencies and the private sector.

For example, a tracking system that utilizes barcodes and hand scanners to log a patient's condition and location has been tested during past races. During a real disaster, this technology could provide authorities quick access to the location and condition of casualties, information that currently takes hours, if not days, for friends and families of the injured to ascertain.

This year, as always, even more important than testing new technologies is the development of relationships between various public safety and medical communities, as well as with the private sector. Homeland security specialists often talk about the importance of not waiting to "exchange business cards at the scene of a disaster." This means that counterparts from different agencies meet each other before a disaster thrusts them together for the first time.....

To successfully manage the marathon, BEMS and other public safety agencies must have relationships not just with the Boston Athletic Association, which organizes the race, but also with a diverse set of private organizations. These include, but are not limited to, private ambulance services that back up BEMS, and hotels and other businesses along the route that help make the behind-the-scenes operation of the marathon run smoothly.

In Washington, D.C., the city's evacuation plan is tested during the mass exodus of people after the fireworks finale at the Fourth of July festivities. California has developed medical surge plans to be used after catastrophes such as an earthquake in San Francisco or a nuclear terrorist attack in Los Angeles. The New York Police Department has created robust intelligence and counter-terrorism divisions to protect its residents.
Massachusetts is better prepared for a real disaster because every Patriot's Day and Fourth of July is treated as a "disaster." Instead of constant warnings about the inevitability of another terrorist attack or natural catastrophe, the public would be better served if this type of local homeland security innovation were promoted and adopted elsewhere.

Rest here: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed..._run_disaster/

[witchy1]

Marathons – A Tale of Two Cities and the Running of a Planned Mass Casualty Event
Richard Serino,

Chief of Department,

Boston EMS
Asst. Director, Boston Public Health

Presentation Overview

•Planned Disaster Concept

•Groundwork

•Collaboration
•Planning
•Execution

•Evaluation and Analysis

Here is the PDF (sorry its too big to upload)
http://www.integratedtrainingsummit....no_richard.pdf

Here is a 2nd download link in case first one gets removed https://mega.co.nz/#!EcRABZQa!GD2CC33Rn0jtb4mY4wL59n1D1AdYAIAj7utctfE9DJA

[witchy1]

According to the EXIF data of this photo it was taken on:
2012:01:25 03:41:57

ICC -header
Profile CMM Type: lcms
Profile Version: 2.1.0
Profile Class: Display Device Profile
Color Space Data: RGB
Profile Connection Space: XYZ
Profile Date Time: 2012:01:25 03:41:57
Profile File Signature: acsp
Primary Platform: Apple Computer Inc.
CMM Flags: Not Embedded, Independent
Device Manufacturer: N/A
Device Model: N/A
Device Attributes: Reflective, Glossy, Positive, Color
Rendering Intent: Perceptual
Connection Space Illuminant: 0.9642 1 0.82491
Profile Creator: lcms
Profile ID: N/A

The "File Modify Date" is the date the photo was taken.
The "Profile Date Time" is located in the ICC Profile.
ICC means "International Color Consortium" and the
ICC Profile contains color-correction data.
The "Profile Date Time" is the date/time of the profile when it was embedded into the camera during manufacture

I know its from GLP - just checking if anyone can verify these setting etc..
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age2217507/pg2

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by witchy1 (here)


According to the EXIF data of this photo it was taken on:
2012:01:25 03:41:57

So ... why would I care if a picture of Jeff Bauman (I guess that's who this is) was taken on 25 Jan 2012 ?

Ah - PS - Jeff is the Boston amputee, not the other military amputee. So I guess the camera date wasn't set?

P.P.S. -- here's the Huffington Post article that goes with that picture: Jeff Bauman, who lost both legs in Boston Marathon bombing, gives birthday present to fellow victim Sydney Corcoran. It is Sydney's birthday, not Jeff's

[witchy1]

Was there more than one Jeff Bauman at the race.... These guys were tracking their local 15 genesse runners:

Mark Bauman, 63, Flushing. Father and son Mark and Jeff Bauman of Bauman's Running Store in Flint Township were confirmed safe and uninjured, according to a family member. Jeff was there to run in a non-marathon race.
and

Two other area runners in Boston were father and son duo Mark and Jeff Bauman of Bauman's Running Store in Flint Township. They also were running in another race and already had finished by the time the explosion happened in the marathon.

Mark Bauman's wife Joan -- Jeff's mother -- confirmed that both are safe and were not injured in the explosions. Neither could be immediately reached on their cell phones.
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/inde..._river_default
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/inde..._river_default

[jackovesk]

MSM (FearMongering) TERRORISTS: 9/11 plane's 'Landing Gear' part found in New York..???

April 27, 2013

Open to (See) the attached Video

A 1.5 METRE-tall piece of landing gear believed to be from one of the planes that hit the World Trade Center in the September 11 terror attacks has been discovered wedged between a mosque site and another building near ground zero.

The part includes a clearly visible Boeing identification number, New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said today.

The twisted, rusted metal part has cables and levers on it and is about 0.9 metres wide and 0.5 metres tall.

An NYPD photo shows the gear was found in a narrow gap between the two buildings.

The gap appears to be barely wide enough for a person to walk through.


Part of the landing gear believed to be from one of the jets which crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. Picture: NYPD
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''The way it was wedged, it had to go in just the right way for it to go undetected for over a decade,'' Browne said.

The site is being treated as a crime scene, police said

The medical examiner's office will complete a health and safety evaluation to determine whether to sift the soil around the buildings for possible human remains, police said.

The aircraft part will not be removed until evaluations are done and then it will be kept by the NYPD, Browne said.


The tiny gap between two buildinmgs in New York where part of the landing gear believed to be from one of the jets which crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, was found. Picture: NYPD
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The piece of equipment was discovered on Wednesday by surveyors inspecting the lower Manhattan site of a planned Islamic community centre, at 51 Park Place, on behalf of the building's owner, police said.

The inspectors called police who secured the scene, documenting it with photos.

The spot where the landing gear was found is about three blocks from ground zero.

When plans for the mosque and community centre were first announced several years ago, opponents protested that putting a Muslim facility near ground zero showed disrespect.


A police officer guards the entrance of 51 Park Place in New York. Picture: AP
Supporters cited freedom of religion and said it wasn't too close to where Islamic extremists attacked on September 11, 2001.

Two hijacked planes slammed into the nearby World Trade Center towers in 2001, killing thousands of people.

Where the landing gear was found:


This photo montage shows a hijacked commercial plane (left) moments before crashing into one of the twin towers of the World Trade Centre in New York as smoke billows from the other tower (right) which was attacked earlier.

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http://www.news.com.au/world-news/pl...-1226630471921

PS - You (Now Know) just (WHO) you are up Against...!!!

You (Now Know) (WHY) the (MSM) want to (CRUSH) your (MIND) with (FEAR)...

(CONVENIENTLY) this story comes out in the (WAKE) of the (BOSTON BOMBING)...

All the (LIES) held together by a piece of (ROPE)...

Just (LOOK) how they (SPIN) the (FEAR)..!!!

Open to (See) the attached Video

1. 911 rears its Ugly-Head again just in time
2. Don't forget to include a (Grieving Spouse) who lost a loved one on that day
3. Story (Links) to the (Muslim Mosque)
4. Story (Links) to the recent (Boston Bombing)
5. Of (Course) they can't (PROVE) how it got there after (12 YEARS)

It is (YOU) the (MSM) who are the (REAL - TERRORISTS)...

[witchy1]

There are some come photos I havnt seen before here: http://cryptome.org/2013-info/04/bos...n-bombs-02.htm

And what is the hollow pipe things on Jeffs bum (look at top of thigh tucked under the brown cover)

[Slorri]

Posted by InCiDeR (here)

Posted by Slorri (here)

Yes, and also look at the large yellow suit that he is climbing out of.
He has sat down on the ground and takes off the yellow suit. Underneath he has his torn pants. The guy with the camera takes the yellow suit, we can clearly see that. Then the other guy stand up, sprays his legs, and sit down again.

This is the guy who was in the yellow suit just befor and held the smoke generator above his head, and placed it on the ground, just as the flash bomb went off.

Sorry, but for me that yellow suit appears to be an older guy in front of the person with torn pants, he crawls away towards the guy with the camera... or are my eyes playing tricks on me?!

I used this video to catch that:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cwZv_fsXEes

Here is a frozen frame:

Ah yes, you are right. It's another man in the yellow suit.
Everything changes with every new piece of video and photo.

Very strange with all them high resolution images.

[InCiDeR]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by InCiDeR (here)
[...]

It is a sad fact though, that we have reached a point in which we have to analyze horrifying pictures because we don't trust the power that be...

... or because gootubers are cashing in on outrageous theories that are trendy.

Probably a combination of both!

Posted by Amzer Zo
The guy's right leg has been "salted" with a ball bearing/BB gunshot blast. The clothes shredding is mostly due to the initial blast compression shock wave which first compresses the air around and then suddenly expands which is then followed by the vacuum flow-back of the air towards the source spot of the detonation.

A pressure cooker full of explosives and no shrapnel would have blown clothes to shreds without almost any injuries. Imagine a sudden gale on a flabby spinnaker.

Yes, this is a most likely explanation. What puzzles me though, why isn't the above true for all people in that area, just for some selected individuals. Other people seems to have intact clothes for most part.

This makes me wonder where did the bomb actually blast. First I thought close to the wall, at the dark spot, but now I start to believe it blow beside Jeff and the people with ripped clothes. They acted as a wall, shielding the others. [/end speculation]

Posted by Amzer Zo
I guess you missed this post of mine:

No, I did read your post. But that scene of your post is further away from the spot the discussed video is showing. It also showing the scenario from the opposite direction/angle. As I stated, that scene that you show in your post have lots of blood in it, whereas the scene the video is showing do not have nearly that much.

How come? Maybe depending on what spot the bomb went off? As I speculated earlier, maybe some unfortunate people acted as a wall shielding other people.

The epicentre of the blast is still a bit of a mystery to me.

Posted by Slorri (here)
Ah yes, you are right. It's another man in the yellow suit.
Everything changes with every new piece of video and photo.

Very strange with all them high resolution images.

Yes, especially all of the high resolution images that witchy1 linked to!

But maybe the photographer just likes to take lots of photos, and as he stated, could give some clues to what really happened… many of them though, contain a lots of information regarding this confusing puzzle!

[InCiDeR]

Interview with Jeff Bauman:

BOSTON BOMBING HERO JEFF BAUMAN: "HE'S DEAD AND I'M STILL HERE"

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James Tracy: The Unlikely Antics of Boston’s Cowboy Hero

Nodisnofo.com and Dr. James Tracy & colleagues simultaneously publish articles proving the Boston attack to be a fraud, focusing on the lies and deception perpetrated by Carlos “the Cowboy” Arrendondo. An excellent review by Tracey: commendations.

Fraudster Carlos Arrendondo Strikes Again

Note: it will be proven, here, that Carlos Arrendondo is telling great lies in the media. These great lies have been spread all over the world, while helping to maintain the hoax of the official story. That means that this individual is a collaborator in this false flag attack.