The Aliens want to take over our planet !!!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

The truth is in there

N

[D-Day]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

The truth is in there

N

To which truth are you referring?

Your "truth"... or THE TRUTH??

Something tells me there's likely to be consdierable difference between the two.

But that's just me.

[Sidney]

Something tells me they have already done so. They are just not visible to us because they live underground. And many of them walk among us but we dont know it because they look like us.

[S-L]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
If you were observing and interacting with an ant colony would you eventually want to kill them all off so you can take over their nest ?

Humanity's sustained interaction with alien life is the biggest threshold our race can face. For this reason I thank you for starting this thread. These things are very much worth thinking about.

I'm concerned with your analogy. Rather than debate the merits of it, I would like to respond with an analogy of my own. I'm calling it the cattle analogy!

If you came to face to face with a cow, what would you do? Would you kill it? Or would you realize that this cow is a tremendous resource and try to maximize its usefulness to you? You may kill it down the road - if that's the most useful thing - but in the mean time, how much can you milk out of it?

Just because they have not wiped humanity out does not mean that they are here in our best interest. They are beings that exist in physical reality, just like you and me. They need resources to survive, just like all of us. Why kill the cattle when you can milk it first? Isn't this situation so very obvious? Earth and humanity are a tremendous resource. Our planet's lushness and biological diversity is not unique, but it's certainly not the rule in a universe of mostly barren worlds. Earth is a prize. They are here to exploit it, and they need our help in doing so. They want us to fall in line and work for them. This is the game that is afoot. The Allies of Humanity do a great job of detailing this.

The stakes are high. We only have the one planet. Humanity needs to be extremely cautious in regards to alien contact. We cannot just make excuses for them. We must remember that we are human beings, and as flawed as the human condition is on this planet, we must rally behind human freedom and sovereignty.

We are not ants!
We are not cattle!
They are abducting people all over the world.
We are human beings and we have every right to live in peace and freedom!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Hello SL

is this an assumption or has this been confirmed ?

" it's certainly not the rule in a universe of mostly barren worlds "

and before we turn on the messenger , which is often the problem with starting threads ( not you SL ) what i want to achieve is generating thought outside the box.

There has been one or two comments that have touched on my theory or at least what im trying to understand my self. It is interesting that the ones furthest from my theory have gotten the most thank you's.

But i hope we can be polite to each other here and think , expand, understand.. perhaps evolve.

in the end my theories , ad D Day has pointed out are merely my own and that is a very true statement but i am not here to push an agenda , i am here to understand our thinking and where it leads us. This is what i find intriguing.

thank you '

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[DeDukshyn]

Hint:
Human Ego is the most self centered and arrogant sentience that exists in the Universe.
Me me me, m-me me me. Victim victim. me me oh my!



I think this is what Nanoo is getting at. The human condition needs to be removed first before any real rational thought can take place, once removed, the arguments differ considerably than before.

My 2 cents

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
Hint:
Human Ego is the most self centered and arrogant sentience that exists in the Universe.
Me me me, m-me me me. Victim victim. me me oh my!



I think this is what Nanoo is getting at. The human condition needs to be removed first before any real rational thought can take place, once removed, the arguments differ considerably than before.

My 2 cents

This is not exactly my point but an un expected and excellent diversification ! nice ; 0 )

Yes in thinking the Ego is , imo , historically an energy centre that imbues scarcity and division. This is a reaction to societal dogmas. And very much imbedded in our general DNA matrix as a result. The DNA matrix , which is a re writeable storage centre , can be altered with deep thought, reflection, naval gazing etc.

I want to throw more spanners in the mix if i may.

here is an excerpt from a wiki page on ants.

i do love the information here in particular that they have been on this planet for some 100 million years , and create highly complex structured and symbiotic societies not only with their own kind but with many diverse surrounding entities.

Ants are social insects of the family Formicidae (pron.: /fɔrˈmɪsɨdiː/) and, along with the related wasps and bees, belong to the order Hymenoptera. Ants evolved from wasp-like ancestors in the mid-Cretaceous period between 110 and 130 million years ago and diversified after the rise of flowering plants. More than 12,500 out of an estimated total of 22,000 species have been classified.[3][4] They are easily identified by their elbowed antennae and a distinctive node-like structure that forms a slender waist.

Ants form colonies that range in size from a few dozen predatory individuals living in small natural cavities to highly organised colonies that may occupy large territories and consist of millions of individuals. Larger colonies consist mostly of sterile wingless females forming castes of "workers", "soldiers", or other specialised groups. Nearly all ant colonies also have some fertile males called "drones" and one or more fertile females called "queens". The colonies sometimes are described as superorganisms because the ants appear to operate as a unified entity, collectively working together to support the colony.[5]

Ants have colonised almost every landmass on Earth. The only places lacking indigenous ants are Antarctica and a few remote or inhospitable islands. Ants thrive in most ecosystems and may form 15–25% of the terrestrial animal biomass.[6] Their success in so many environments has been attributed to their social organisation and their ability to modify habitats, tap resources, and defend themselves. Their long co-evolution with other species has led to mimetic, commensal, parasitic, and mutualistic relationships


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[DeDukshyn]

I think your position may be simpler (and not less valid) than I expected. ;-)

If we think that "superior" aliens are coming to control us and take us over, then we must think that if we went to another planet and found simple ant-like creatures that we would take them over and control them because that's what space travelers do. Right? It sounds absurd completely when put like that. Although I think I'm holding on to that "human arrogance" theory, unless it does tie in

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
I think your position may be simpler (and not less valid) than I expected. ;-)

If we think that "superior" aliens are coming to control us and take us over, then we must think that if we went to another planet and found simple ant-like creatures that we would take them over and control them because that's what space travelers do. Right? It sounds absurd completely when put like that. Although I think I'm holding on to that "human arrogance" theory, unless it does tie in

This is good thinking , can we expand on this ?

and this may be straying from my original question but what resources would an alien need thats perfected electromagnetic interdimentional flight a million years ago and has managed to sustain it without ever having come across us before ?

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
I think your position may be simpler (and not less valid) than I expected. ;-)

If we think that "superior" aliens are coming to control us and take us over, then we must think that if we went to another planet and found simple ant-like creatures that we would take them over and control them because that's what space travelers do. Right? It sounds absurd completely when put like that. Although I think I'm holding on to that "human arrogance" theory, unless it does tie in

This is good thinking , can we expand on this ?

and this may be straying from my original question but what resources would an alien need thats perfected electromagnetic interdimentional flight a million years ago and has managed to sustain it without ever having come across us before ?

None, if they came a long distance. For a very short distance, it may be that the aforementioned isn't yet "perfected" and thus physical resources of some sort may be needed. But since if there were inhabitants close to us (solar system) we would know about them (or at least have another hospitable planet in our solar system for a physical alien, which we don't), so I think we can rule that out.

If a race came hundres or millions of light years, they'd obviously have the resource thing licked and nothin on earth would interest them except for maybe observation of the life itself.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I like that line of thinking , it makes sense to me even tho my sense can be flawed by my perspective. I am however trying to keep a middle ground in the OP.

A broader question is , If you had the capability to travel vast distances using high technology by our own standards , would you have also developed a sence of regenerative sustainable living ? Or is this highly advanced Space dweller a consuming locust ?

If we juxtapose this question over our current situation. What would a free and sustainable energy scource mean to our life and planet ?

Electromagnetism is perpetually being generated by our planet and is omnipresent and abundant AND in 400 million years has never stopped ...

how would that change our philosophy ? our outlook ?

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[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by Prodigal Son (here)
If ants could be trained to mine gold, or if we could tax the crap out of their labor, or if we could somehow feed off their energy, particularly fear energy, then this analogy would make more sense [to me].

Edited after Paul's comment in post #20

Prodigal Son, I think you got it figured out. The reasons you have addressed are some of the reasons the dark side ETs are farming humans on planet Earth.

Assuming we chose to project ourselves into this situation, then why did we do it?
Perhaps I've heard the answer elsewhere.
It may be the same reason dogs love to stick their heads out of car windows and risk getting bugs in their eyes.

The reason: For the thrill of the ride.

Ron

[kersley]

Posted by Molope (here)
It woud be more like bees,we farm honey from Bees that live in places we built for them so its easier for us to collect their "resources" AKA the Honey.They dont know they are being farmed..just an idea.

Very good, But what are we been farmed for? That's the question.. That really does make a lot of sense. And the elites are our slave masters taking orders from higher up??

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

Well, I'm not sure to whom you are responding here, but may I suggest that there is a difference between saying:

Your comparison doesn't make any sense to me.

and

Your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

The second form is perhaps unnecessarily provocative, and perhaps not exactly true (heck, it might make sense to some folks, in some manner or other.)

comparing humans to ants and ETs to humans makes no sense whatsoever, not only to me i should think. do i really have to list the differences?

- humans don't have a hive mind like ants, but ETs (greys for instance) do.
- humans and ants can easily live together on a planet without any problems and have done since ancient times. humans and ETs most likely can't, otherwise the ETs wouldn't have this need for secrecy (great invasions happen in secrecy!)
- there's this "minor" difference in size between humans and ants but hardly any between humans and ETs. i can have an ant colony in my garden and won't mind. an ET colony would be another matter.
- humans don't usually consume ants as food, but ETs do turn humans into sustenance, as anyone knows who has studied dulce and similar materials
- humans don't abduct ants
- humans don't create ant-human hybrids

i could go on but that should be enough to point out why i wrote "whatsoever".

from what the ETs (the greys, not the dracos/reptilians) do it's obvious that they want to introduce grey/human hybrids here on earth after the earth changes have reduced the human population to "manageable" levels. the only question is whether the intention is benevolent, meaning these hybrids can then be used as vehicles for souls to incarnate in and have experiences somewhat similar to human ones, just more varied, to creat some kind of co-evolution of both species, or whether the intentions are malevolent, meaning the remaining humans will be turned into a slave race for the hybrids and the future hybridized earth population will become a colony of the grey hive mind.

[Molope]

Posted by kersley (here)

Posted by Molope (here)
It woud be more like bees,we farm honey from Bees that live in places we built for them so its easier for us to collect their "resources" AKA the Honey.They dont know they are being farmed..just an idea.

Very good, But what are we been farmed for? That's the question.. That really does make a lot of sense. And the elites are our slave masters taking orders from higher up??

Thats the thing but just imagine you ask the man who collects the honey from those been pannels he really doesnt know where the Honey he farms is going to go or how is going to be used,he has some ideas of how It COUD be used but his job is just farming the bees.Its up to the one who gets the honey to give it use so the same applies for us.

[Watching from Cyprus]

Posted by Observer1964 (here)
Nice topic, and one of my favorit topics in general.
I spent quite some time (more than 20 yrs by now) thinking about this possibility of an alien takeover, reading all i could find, and trying to correlate all things I noticed.
Studying all of von Däniken's books, the work of R.C. Hoagland, sumerian tabletts, conspiracy theories and UFO-Alien contact stories and from all of this a very clear picture crystalises out.

Looking at our Earth we can see all kind of traces of past events, the way the continents are shaped and spread out, the difference in one side and the other like the pacific and atlantic side, the archeological finds, Myths, legends, historic or religious texts, all is related to each other and when taken together and put in the right place like when you solve a puzzle, the history can be understood.
There are several Alien Intelligences out there good and bad, and both types intervened at times in our history. But most ppl have no clue about our history or the history of the Earth.
I think the Terra Papers comes closesth to the real truth in telling this story about this history.
Basicly it comes down to this;
Earth is a remnant of a planet that was once in the orbit that now is occupied by asteroids between Mars and Jupiter. That planet was destroyed in a galactic war by the impact of a planet-sized space-dreadnaught, like the deathstar in StarWars.
The part that became Earth fell down to the orbit it now has. was re-seeded, and we humans were made to work the gold-mines. (the reason we only use 10% of our brain)
I dont think Aliens want to take over this planet, they see it as theirs and we are a kind of infestation.
On the other hand there is the interference of higher dimensions, beings from higer dimension see the forces that basicly threaten us too as a major problem that will be solved by shifting up the Earth. We humans basicly are hosts to spirits from these higher dimensions, if we manage to shift, the negative forces will be disconnected from us, and their Empire will fold up into a black-hole in wich they will have their own negative universe and wont be able to bother us anymore.
We humans are a 3-unity. our body, our reincarnating soul and our higher selfs. the higher self is the reincarnating soul that after been matured trough all its incarnations is living in all times helping itself to mature. That we exsists is proof that we won, eventho fur us in the now it still has to happen.

Thanks a bunch Observer; you saved me from writing practically same.. I am very pleased that i am not the only one in the knowing... This is how it is.

[Observer1964]

@ WFC

Thanks a bunch Observer; you saved me from writing practically same.. I am very pleased that i am not the only one in the knowing... This is how it is.

Thank you to, I guess that makes us the only ones in this topic (sofar) who realy did do their homework. (And I was thinking i would get a flood of questions after I posted this.)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by Observer1964 (here)
Nice topic, and one of my favorit topics in general.
I spent quite some time (more than 20 yrs by now) thinking about this possibility of an alien takeover, reading all i could find, and trying to correlate all things I noticed.
Studying all of von Däniken's books, the work of R.C. Hoagland, sumerian tabletts, conspiracy theories and UFO-Alien contact stories and from all of this a very clear picture crystalises out.

Looking at our Earth we can see all kind of traces of past events, the way the continents are shaped and spread out, the difference in one side and the other like the pacific and atlantic side, the archeological finds, Myths, legends, historic or religious texts, all is related to each other and when taken together and put in the right place like when you solve a puzzle, the history can be understood.
There are several Alien Intelligences out there good and bad, and both types intervened at times in our history. But most ppl have no clue about our history or the history of the Earth.
I think the Terra Papers comes closesth to the real truth in telling this story about this history.
Basicly it comes down to this;
Earth is a remnant of a planet that was once in the orbit that now is occupied by asteroids between Mars and Jupiter. That planet was destroyed in a galactic war by the impact of a planet-sized space-dreadnaught, like the deathstar in StarWars.
The part that became Earth fell down to the orbit it now has. was re-seeded, and we humans were made to work the gold-mines. (the reason we only use 10% of our brain)
I dont think Aliens want to take over this planet, they see it as theirs and we are a kind of infestation.
On the other hand there is the interference of higher dimensions, beings from higer dimension see the forces that basicly threaten us too as a major problem that will be solved by shifting up the Earth. We humans basicly are hosts to spirits from these higher dimensions, if we manage to shift, the negative forces will be disconnected from us, and their Empire will fold up into a black-hole in wich they will have their own negative universe and wont be able to bother us anymore.
We humans are a 3-unity. our body, our reincarnating soul and our higher selfs. the higher self is the reincarnating soul that after been matured trough all its incarnations is living in all times helping itself to mature. That we exsists is proof that we won, eventho fur us in the now it still has to happen.

Thank you for this post , its taken a bit of thinking for me befoe i wanted to make comment on this.

Firstly i want to state that the " Title " of this thread and the " Question " on the first page are not part of the same context.

The Title is one thing the Question is another all together. The Question is un related however the Title would " lend " to being related.

i dont want to give away too much but this is a think piece and its designed to get us to think, which is good for us , this gets us to think and create new pathways in the mind and expand our ability to process diverse information.

Ok so back to the Post from Observer.

I like what was written as a summary so far. And from an analytical view point its quite accurate. But there are other view points to consider.

I believe the mind is governed by default. to the 10% suggested above. This makes sense to me. And only now having read this post something has made sense to me that is a huge penny dropping ritght into the middle of the pond in my mind . . .

My mind was unlocked at a young age . . . from 10% to about 15 % but a process of learning. Most recently in 2010 due to a commitment to meditation , learning and exploration my mind was further un locked to about 30% capacity. Its taken me a long time to piece it all together but it was done to me as an un locking of my crown gateway and my medulla in a very real and very effective ceremony of which i did not concent or even have an idea was going to happen.

But did the fact i did not give concent verbally as its done down here with a signature on a contract matter ? nope ! why ? because i now understand their thinking that my self preparation , study , meditation , changing my outlook , working towards peaceful lifestyle etc WAS the concent and WAS the contract by LIVING the changes outlined by my own free will.

why would they want to formalise a reward ? i made the effort and the reward was bestowed upon me. Mind you i had no idea ther was a reward in the first place...

I can tell you now i know we are in a learning facility and i made a commitment to learn and i ws rewarded by unlocking bigger parts of my brain. I can feel them work , i can feel parts of my brain operate like a new muscle thats a bit sore from lactic acid after a work out .. these have passed and were never really that bad but its true.

Am i a good ant ? in the ant farm being observed ? did i show promise to be peaceful and progressive in my will to want to help others ? Yes !

Some might think thats opressive .. but when i saw the bigger picture i got it .. i graduated in my schooling ...

And we all do this in one form or another , wehter its on here learning , or at college learning , or at work , home , bushwalking .. always learning , we are ! ( thank you yoda )

I used to think , " why are our minds limited ?" now i know why ... its like giving a Provisional Motorbike learner an 1100 turbo superbike to learn on . . . Instead of a 250 cc standard. While some may learn faster than others , thats true , most would have had negative effects being given so much to deal with before they formed a good riding ethic.

So to expand on this analogy , as the rider gets better and more skilful, as the rider commits to riding in a way that does not harm other innocents , then the rider is graduated to a 650 cc and is then observed how they handle this new power ! do they abuse it ? or do they just get there faster without harming others... Do they use this new power to help indeed enrich the lives of others by letting them see what its like to get on the back for a ride ? safely , with excitement !

I hope this was interesting

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[eaglespirit]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)

I used to think , " why are our minds limited ?" now i know why ... its like giving a Provisional Motorbike learner an 1100 turbo superbike to learn on . . . Instead of a 250 cc standard. While some may learn faster than others , thats true , most would have had negative effects being given so much to deal with before they formed a good riding ethic.

So to expand on this analogy , as the rider gets better and more skilful, as the rider commits to riding in a way that does not harm other innocents , then the rider is graduated to a 650 cc and is then observed how they handle this new power ! do they abuse it ? or do they just get there faster without harming others... Do they use this new power to help indeed enrich the lives of others by letting them see what its like to get on the back for a ride ? safely , with excitement !

I hope this was interesting

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...and coming from an 'experienced' super bike rider, I find that analogy right on, Nanoo Nanoo...and the choice becomes, well...no choice really.
The enrichment, while worked for with personal hard work and diligence...
is soooooooo enriching that it HAS TO BE shared openly to those with ANY HINT of interest and yearning.
Game changed, life changed, experience changed for those that follow suit on their "own" bike...enrichment grows by default on and on and on...

Back to Your First Thought and Title:

We are needed and used by them for their enrichment and entertainment...they are here 'over us' illegally and are now being 'extricated' in turbo mode...enough of the 'colony' has woken up and gotten to work and the 'higher colony' is in the mix now helping more than ever...30...60...90...days ahead and the "head" comes off of the 'title' aliens.

We are the ants becoming the, well... aliens of a higher/purer order and the perpetrator aliens are simply going to dissolve from our realm because they cannot handle the purity of it.

...end of my thought thread thoughts : )
and thanks for sharing ...All here that shared!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
comparing humans to ants and ETs to humans makes no sense whatsoever, not only to me i should think. do i really have to list the differences?

The existence of dissimilarities does not preclude any similarities in essence.