The Secret Of The Soul - and OBE

[HaulinBananas]

Posted by MacStar (here)

Posted by HaulinBananas (here)
Thank you - I realize now that I had read that thread earlier. In that thread Prodigal Son says something similar to Steve Richards of Holographic Kinetics, that we are coming to a point where some can get out before the next 26K cycle begins. Steve Richards said it would be something like October of this year. He first mentioned it in a podcast interview. I asked him in person if I understood correctly that he said it was this year (I'd have to listen to the interview again to confirm October) and he said yes. I think he called it a junction or juncture point.

Lately I've downloaded lectures and interviews done by Tom Campbell until I get his book(s). It comes down to our own work and journey. I like to hear others experiences and interpretations, but they can't do it for me. I love this planet, so beautiful and mysterious. And, Tom Campbell explains so well how we grow from the challenges in each life, toward lower entropy (Love) as we mature through our experiences and understanding.

Our own experiences and understanding. So, I soak in more and more information like a sponge, but only to make better choices.

Thank you to those sharing their experiences and interpretations. And techniques.

Adding a correction: I am listening to the interview again, mid-way through, the timeframe Steve Richards mentions is somewhere from early- to mid-August.

Interesting crossover as I've invited 2 members aboard and Shipo is one.

The other is wanting to know more about Nibiru...I am led to believe the Red Kachina is due later this year?

Red October?

Hmmm time to really get to know the self I guess.

Thanks for that HB, I will look into Holographic Kinetics

I listened to the interview again - he said early to mid-August (edited my comment above to reflect the correction) - I only mentioned it because of the other recommended thread/Prodigal Son's comment - and it sounded like the same thing, but from a second information source. However, like most, I am less inclined to give value to dated predictions than before. Thank you MacStar.

[sirdipswitch]

Sounds like y'all are doin just fine and dandy. Me and George are smillin. cccc.

Two nights ago, nuther black SUV, and George told me to sit tight and let them do their thing. I did. And when they put me into a black bag, made of some pretty tough material, and dumped me into the back of their SUV, I had a chance to examine the bag a bit. It had a battery attatched to an "Electrical harness" woven into the material of the bag, that I guess they thought would contain me. Nope. When they cleared the driveway, I was sittin in the middle of the back seat lookin at them in the mirror. Shoulda seen the look on their faces. ccc. I then dropped them in the middle of the Black Rock Desert, in Nevada, and returned home. ccc. Found out later, that the electrical bag, was the reason George wanted me to go along with them. So that I could prove to them, that it won't work. ccc.

Makin waves is such a kick!!! cccccccc.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Sounds like y'all are doin just fine and dandy. Me and George are smillin. cccc.

Two nights ago, nuther black SUV, and George told me to sit tight and let them do their thing. I did. And when they put me into a black bag, made of some pretty tough material, and dumped me into the back of their SUV, I had a chance to examine the bag a bit. It had a battery attatched to an "Electrical harness" woven into the material of the bag, that I guess they thought would contain me. Nope. When they cleared the driveway, I was sittin in the middle of the back seat lookin at them in the mirror. Shoulda seen the look on their faces. ccc. I then dropped them in the middle of the Black Rock Desert, in Nevada, and returned home. ccc. Found out later, that the electrical bag, was the reason George wanted me to go along with them. So that I could prove to them, that it won't work. ccc.

Makin waves is such a kick!!! cccccccc.

I'm still smiling.

The idea of such is so appealing.

Please get neighbors ready to take videos

then invite those in the black SUV back for more entertainment.

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Sounds like y'all are doin just fine and dandy. Me and George are smillin. cccc.

Two nights ago, nuther black SUV, and George told me to sit tight and let them do their thing. I did. And when they put me into a black bag, made of some pretty tough material, and dumped me into the back of their SUV, I had a chance to examine the bag a bit. It had a battery attatched to an "Electrical harness" woven into the material of the bag, that I guess they thought would contain me. Nope. When they cleared the driveway, I was sittin in the middle of the back seat lookin at them in the mirror. Shoulda seen the look on their faces. ccc. I then dropped them in the middle of the Black Rock Desert, in Nevada, and returned home. ccc. Found out later, that the electrical bag, was the reason George wanted me to go along with them. So that I could prove to them, that it won't work. ccc.

Makin waves is such a kick!!! cccccccc.

I'm still smiling.

The idea of such is so appealing.

Please get neighbors ready to take videos

then invite those in the black SUV back for more entertainment.

Hey!! Ron!!

Glad it brings a few smiles, for that is all I wish at this time. Don't need no cameras. In fact, George keeps everyone here fast asleep while I'm playin with these guys, so that I don't attract attention, and is the reason I drop them out in such wierd places. No pictures, and "They" get the idea, fully as to that which I can do to them. I haven't had the same 2 guys here, for another try yet. And I certainly don't need some hotshot reporter, to get a hold of a picture from someone, and show up here with a camera crew wanting a story. I just go about this quietly for my own purpose for now. And of course for your enjoyment, and the possibilities of that which you may choose to do, when you break the bonds of this thing we call physical, also. ccc.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Sounds like y'all are doin just fine and dandy. Me and George are smillin. cccc.

Two nights ago, nuther black SUV, and George told me to sit tight and let them do their thing. I did. And when they put me into a black bag, made of some pretty tough material, and dumped me into the back of their SUV, I had a chance to examine the bag a bit. It had a battery attatched to an "Electrical harness" woven into the material of the bag, that I guess they thought would contain me. Nope. When they cleared the driveway, I was sittin in the middle of the back seat lookin at them in the mirror. Shoulda seen the look on their faces. ccc. I then dropped them in the middle of the Black Rock Desert, in Nevada, and returned home. ccc. Found out later, that the electrical bag, was the reason George wanted me to go along with them. So that I could prove to them, that it won't work. ccc.

Makin waves is such a kick!!! cccccccc.

I'm still smiling.

The idea of such is so appealing.

Please get neighbors ready to take videos

then invite those in the black SUV back for more entertainment.

Hey!! Ron!!

Glad it brings a few smiles, for that is all I wish at this time. Don't need no cameras. In fact, George keeps everyone here fast asleep while I'm playin with these guys, so that I don't attract attention, and is the reason I drop them out in such wierd places. No pictures, and "They" get the idea, fully as to that which I can do to them. I haven't had the same 2 guys here, for another try yet. And I certainly don't need some hotshot reporter, to get a hold of a picture from someone, and show up here with a camera crew wanting a story. I just go about this quietly for my own purpose for now. And of course for your enjoyment, and the possibilities of that which you may choose to do, when you break the bonds of this thing we call physical, also. ccc.

Sirdipswitch,

Whenever HS lets me out to make my jump to light speed, I hope to have as much fun as you are having.

My dreams may have indicated I was going too fast to make the jump to light speed. I was driving a car, way too fast, my brakes did not work and I was having trouble avoiding obstacles. So I'll slow down a bit and see what happens.

Please continue to keep us entertained.

Ron

[Swan]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)

Two nights ago, nuther black SUV, and George told me to sit tight and let them do their thing. I did. And when they put me into a black bag, made of some pretty tough material, and dumped me into the back of their SUV, I had a chance to examine the bag a bit. :

Are you OK?

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Sounds like y'all are doin just fine and dandy. Me and George are smillin. cccc.

Two nights ago, nuther black SUV, and George told me to sit tight and let them do their thing. I did. And when they put me into a black bag, made of some pretty tough material, and dumped me into the back of their SUV, I had a chance to examine the bag a bit. It had a battery attatched to an "Electrical harness" woven into the material of the bag, that I guess they thought would contain me. Nope. When they cleared the driveway, I was sittin in the middle of the back seat lookin at them in the mirror. Shoulda seen the look on their faces. ccc. I then dropped them in the middle of the Black Rock Desert, in Nevada, and returned home. ccc. Found out later, that the electrical bag, was the reason George wanted me to go along with them. So that I could prove to them, that it won't work. ccc.

Makin waves is such a kick!!! cccccccc.

I'm still smiling.

The idea of such is so appealing.

Please get neighbors ready to take videos

then invite those in the black SUV back for more entertainment.

Hey!! Ron!!

Glad it brings a few smiles, for that is all I wish at this time. Don't need no cameras. In fact, George keeps everyone here fast asleep while I'm playin with these guys, so that I don't attract attention, and is the reason I drop them out in such wierd places. No pictures, and "They" get the idea, fully as to that which I can do to them. I haven't had the same 2 guys here, for another try yet. And I certainly don't need some hotshot reporter, to get a hold of a picture from someone, and show up here with a camera crew wanting a story. I just go about this quietly for my own purpose for now. And of course for your enjoyment, and the possibilities of that which you may choose to do, when you break the bonds of this thing we call physical, also. ccc.

Sirdipswitch,

Whenever HS lets me out to make my jump to light speed, I hope to have as much fun as you are having.

My dreams may have indicated I was going too fast to make the jump to light speed. I was driving a car, way too fast, my brakes did not work and I was having trouble avoiding obstacles. So I'll slow down a bit and see what happens.

Please continue to keep us entertained.

Ron

You could very well be right about your dreams. Your Intuition, will let you know. I f that is what it feels like, it probly is.ccc. But... don't quit.

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by Swan (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)

Two nights ago, nuther black SUV, and George told me to sit tight and let them do their thing. I did. And when they put me into a black bag, made of some pretty tough material, and dumped me into the back of their SUV, I had a chance to examine the bag a bit. :

Are you OK?

Yes I'm fine, and thanx for asking. I'm invinsible now. Both in Spirit, and physical. ccc.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Sounds like y'all are doin just fine and dandy. Me and George are smillin. cccc.

Two nights ago, nuther black SUV, and George told me to sit tight and let them do their thing. I did. And when they put me into a black bag, made of some pretty tough material, and dumped me into the back of their SUV, I had a chance to examine the bag a bit. It had a battery attatched to an "Electrical harness" woven into the material of the bag, that I guess they thought would contain me. Nope. When they cleared the driveway, I was sittin in the middle of the back seat lookin at them in the mirror. Shoulda seen the look on their faces. ccc. I then dropped them in the middle of the Black Rock Desert, in Nevada, and returned home. ccc. Found out later, that the electrical bag, was the reason George wanted me to go along with them. So that I could prove to them, that it won't work. ccc.

Makin waves is such a kick!!! cccccccc.

I'm still smiling.

The idea of such is so appealing.

Please get neighbors ready to take videos

then invite those in the black SUV back for more entertainment.

Hey!! Ron!!

Glad it brings a few smiles, for that is all I wish at this time. Don't need no cameras. In fact, George keeps everyone here fast asleep while I'm playin with these guys, so that I don't attract attention, and is the reason I drop them out in such wierd places. No pictures, and "They" get the idea, fully as to that which I can do to them. I haven't had the same 2 guys here, for another try yet. And I certainly don't need some hotshot reporter, to get a hold of a picture from someone, and show up here with a camera crew wanting a story. I just go about this quietly for my own purpose for now. And of course for your enjoyment, and the possibilities of that which you may choose to do, when you break the bonds of this thing we call physical, also. ccc.

Sirdipswitch,

Whenever HS lets me out to make my jump to light speed, I hope to have as much fun as you are having.

My dreams may have indicated I was going too fast to make the jump to light speed. I was driving a car, way too fast, my brakes did not work and I was having trouble avoiding obstacles. So I'll slow down a bit and see what happens.

Please continue to keep us entertained.

Ron

You could very well be right about your dreams. Your Intuition, will let you know. I f that is what it feels like, it probly is.ccc. But... don't quit.

I will NEVER give up. I suspect a part of me needs to do something, or learn something from a future experience, that might be bypassed if I had full access to OBE.

Years ago I experienced lucid dreaming, and the vibrational state while dreaming. I expected these experiences to become more common over the years since then but they have not.

[sirdipswitch]

"As you think, so shall you be." ~Buddha

Yep, thats what he said, nd so did Jesus.

The first rule of Huna (Ike) says:

" The world is, what you think it is."

The second rule of Huna (Kala) says:

"Anything is possible, if you can figure out how to do it."

William Buhlman got a bit more wordy, than them guys. ccc.

Consciousness creates reality. All reality, including matter, is shaped and molded by thought. Creation itself is the result of conscious thought-energy influencing, arranging, and manifesting form and substance as we know it. Countless non-physical explorations into the interior of the universe confirm this observation. It's only the density of matter that obscures the truth of this from our physical senses. In the physical world, consciousness uses biological vehicles for its expression. Our physical bodies are the direct tool of our consciousness; our thoughts direct our bodies to build the reality we experience every day of our lives. This process of consciousness creating reality is more important than words can begin to express. Our recognition of this reality is the first step to true mastery of ourselves and our surroundings. It is up to us, however, to recognize and implement our creative ability. Our recognition of the creative power of consciousness will dramatically affect both our immediate future and the evolution of our species. Until we truly comprehend and consciously control the unseen energies flowing through us, we will be bound to the dense molecular forms that surround us. Our evolution from a physical creature to a multidimensional, nonphysical being is directly linked to the recognition and conscious control of our thought-energy. Once we truly comprehend our individual ability to shape and mold the energy around us, we can begin to take responsibility for our thoughts. With every thought and deed we become aware that we are the creative artists of our lives.

~William Buhlman, Adventures Beyond the Body

As a result of all this heavy thinkin, I have now learned "Omnipresence". The only one of the big three, that I can be, without invitin Source over for a wrestleing match. cccccc. Can't be Omniscient, nor Omnipotent. Those two are reserved for Source.

I no longer have to travel back and forth between two worlds. I now stay here full time, plus stay there full time. I can now be full time in as many places as I need to be, to do whatever I need to do. I know what's goin on there, they know what's goin on here, we all know what we're all thinkin, 24/7s'. I just split my Spirit in half, so that half can stay there with my other slef, andhalf can stay here with ths self. And, we all have George to talk to any second of this time, and it's like we're all just one big happy self. cc. This is so cool, no wonder Source likes this game so well. ccc.

When one gives up the Dogma of all that they think they know, life gets really amazing.

Huna... is the only thing I didn't give up, for it falls right in line, with all that I now do. Huna came out of Egypt... 35,000 years ago. hmm.

Why go Astral???!!! Gee, I dunno Buckwheat.

[FraZZleD]

My very first OBE......

I was sleeping on my couch when I realized I was walking around my living room. It was strange because I could see outside clearly since the curtains were no longer visible. Our curtains are white and thick and you can’t normally see through them. I was trying to figure out why I was able to see through them as if there were no curtains there.

I turned around and saw my body lying on the couch. I’m thinking to myself, “Wow, now this is really weird! I’m walking around my living room but my body is on the couch.”

As I turned around to try and figure out where the curtains were, I saw my friend coming over to my house carrying a book. It was 3:00 in the morning and I was in a panic because I knew I had to get back into my body to answer the door.

The next thing I remember is hearing my door click. I got up and opened the door expecting to see my friend, but she was not there. I stepped outside to see if she was walking away, but I didn’t see her. Her house was lit up but there was no motion of anyone in the windows. I told myself I had dozed off and must have had a dream.

The next day when I saw my friend I told her that I had had a dream about her. I said I saw her coming to my house carrying a book and that I could see her through curtains that were not there. I was laughing as I told her about my silly dream. But I noticed that she was not laughing; she had a very strange look on her face. I asked her what was wrong. She said she did come over at 3:00 am. She was bringing me a book to read.

I said, “NO WAY! REALLY?” She asked me what she had been wearing and I told her and she said I was right. I asked her how that could be, how I could see her through my curtains and see all these details. She said, “It sounds like you had an out-of-body experience.” I said, “Yes, I also saw myself asleep on the couch at the same time. So that’s what I experienced!”

I asked her why I didn’t see her when I opened the door? She said she knocked softly so as not to wake me if I was asleep. It takes about five minutes for the screen door to close completely. The click woke me up and I must not have gotten back into my body soon enough to hear the knocking. We both sat there laughing and talking about it the rest of the day.

I was in my early 20's when this happened.

[sirdipswitch]

FraZZleD

Great story, loved it! Now just think if you could do that "anytime" you wish!!!! cc.

You said early 20's, like it was a long time ago. Was it? Have there been more? Do you do it regularly now??? If more, how do you project OOB. If you have a simple method, for goin OOB, folks here would sure enjoy knowing it also. ccc.

I think this may just be the simplest method:

http://obe4u.com/files/the_phase.pdf

ENJOY!!!

[sirdipswitch]

Reason... do you understand that word? To think for yourself? Are you very carefull, in what you do think?

When you step across the line into the Astral World, it is instantly thought responsive, and you must be extremely carefull of that which you do think about. You must be able to think on the fly, as you wander through it, so that you don't get sidetracked, and forget why you went there.

Do you know why you're there?

Did you make a plan?

What???!!! You just wandered in there without a plan??!!

No wonder you're slamming back to your body, so quickly.!

Reason, use it, think about why you want to go there. focus on your High Self. You must "act" like the Immortal Spirit you are, and go with authority, like you know who you are and what you are doing. Act like it, act like, act like it!!!!!!

When you step across the line, you step into your Power, act like it.

Fear, Insecurity, Confusion, will keep you from your Power.

Think... Reason... What are you going to do, when you cross the line?

When you are out of body, you are boss. Period.

Fear, Insecurity, Confusion, Scattered thinking, Lack of PLANING, is keeping you in your body, and away from your HS/Source, when you do get out.

All of this has been covered so many times that...?

That which you are doing... is not working..

I don't know what each of you is doing, so I don't know what to tell each of you to change...

Fact is, I won't tell you what to change... I ain't a babysitter... but something must change.

There are only 2 of us doing 24/7s' Communion, with HS/Source, and we both started by Buhlmans method, before we came to this forum.

And after a year of discussing all of this material, to the "N'th" degree.. ??

And... it's been a month, since I mentioned...
Michael Radugas'; "3" to "5" day method...

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I used Buhlman's methods for 45 days, every day, sometimes twice a day.
No success yet.

So after an appropriate break, I'll start again.

Wish I knew what the block is, little 'ol me or something else.

My gut feeling is that conscious connection to HS, not some imposter, is the solution to all problems.

[Arak]

Not too long ago I was lying in my bed eyes closed and suddenly I could see the world around me in some kind of energy form. I could see thru walls and from me there was flowing outwards pink/vuolet wave of light. The experience lasted like 2 seconds or so and ended at the moment I realized that what I saw was something very awesome.

Now the question is: is it possible that my experience was some sort of spontaneus OBE? And what was the wave of light?

[mona]

Hi everyone and all

I'm still reading this thread with great interest

The reason I like it here is because there is an underpin of heart and soul, like an energy that I feel drawn to, even though I don't post often I check here daily for new posts and then get disappointed when there aren't any!!

I read other threads, and no disrespect to anyone meant, but they can feel a bit clinical, like a one size fits all approach, and I instinctively shy away.

This is the reason I resonate with the energy of Sirdipswitch, as there is a nice combination of straight talking, no nonsense, back to basics mixed with humility and humour.

Anyway I thought I should share my journey, especially as I suspect there are many others reading who don't have the courage to post and may feel a bit stupid as their own experiences don't match the up to others who seem more advanced.

I seem to have these vibrations regularly ( although in my experience vibration is an understatement)....I proudly call them "great shuddering's of little substance"

They lead straight into controlled dream which I guess the familiar term is called lucid.

So.. I have the great shuddering's of LS at which point I am completely aware that I am in control, then come the thoughts of excitement anticipation, followed by me trying to get out of body by any technique and then into Lucid dreaming, which I must say is exhilarating in itself.

I attempt to fly and I do, i go up and up and then in every dream as soon as I reach the outer realms, sink ( nicely) back down.

At all stages I am aware that I am either in a dream, am definitely in control and anticipate OBE.
I try grabbing rope , forcing myself out and just when I think I am out, after great resistance (like double vision, slow motion) I look back at the bed and see a different distorted picture, so I can say for sure that I am not OBE, only Lucid.

Well... all of my lucid dreams are very exciting and controllable (to an extent) throughout. The shuddering's are huge and again I am aware of zoning in and out, they literally go throughout my bones.

Each time I hear/feel something a bit more inspirational. Like today (in sleep) hearing musical notes/ sounds harmoniously played from droplets of water hitting different surfaces lol.

In waking, it would make my head hurt with thinking to try and recreate that.


What next?....don't know?...its my journey. I have always had vivid dreams, always, they're much nicer now and I don't have nightmares.

Interestingly the people around me don't seem to remember their dreams, let alone try to control them!

I am in total awe of those who are having bigger adventures.

Please, please keep sharing...

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by Arak (here)
Not too long ago I was lying in my bed eyes closed and suddenly I could see the world around me in some kind of energy form. I could see thru walls and from me there was flowing outwards pink/vuolet wave of light. The experience lasted like 2 seconds or so and ended at the moment I realized that what I saw was something very awesome.

Now the question is: is it possible that my experience was some sort of spontaneus OBE? And what was the wave of light?

Hey Arak!!

I use to have that sort of thing happen all the time when I was workin on my third eye opening. Could be that, but don't know. When you get OOB, you won't have any doubts. It ain't nothin like dreamin. ccc. More like walkin around in the real world, or rather physical world, for the Spirit world, is our real world. ccc.

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B]mona, mona, mona,!!![/B]


You make my face smile Dear. ccc.

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by mona (here)
Hi everyone and all

I'm still reading this thread with great interest

The reason I like it here is because there is an underpin of heart and soul, like an energy that I feel drawn to, even though I don't post often I check here daily for new posts and then get disappointed when there aren't any!!

I read other threads, and no disrespect to anyone meant, but they can feel a bit clinical, like a one size fits all approach, and I instinctively shy away.

This is the reason I resonate with the energy of Sirdipswitch, as there is a nice combination of straight talking, no nonsense, back to basics mixed with humility and humour.

Anyway I thought I should share my journey, especially as I suspect there are many others reading who don't have the courage to post and may feel a bit stupid as their own experiences don't match the up to others who seem more advanced.

I seem to have these vibrations regularly ( although in my experience vibration is an understatement)....I proudly call them "great shuddering's of little substance"

They lead straight into controlled dream which I guess the familiar term is called lucid.

So.. I have the great shuddering's of LS at which point I am completely aware that I am in control, then come the thoughts of excitement anticipation, followed by me trying to get out of body by any technique and then into Lucid dreaming, which I must say is exhilarating in itself.

I attempt to fly and I do, i go up and up and then in every dream as soon as I reach the outer realms, sink ( nicely) back down.

At all stages I am aware that I am either in a dream, am definitely in control and anticipate OBE.
I try grabbing rope , forcing myself out and just when I think I am out, after great resistance (like double vision, slow motion) I look back at the bed and see a different distorted picture, so I can say for sure that I am not OBE, only Lucid.

Well... all of my lucid dreams are very exciting and controllable (to an extent) throughout. The shuddering's are huge and again I am aware of zoning in and out, they literally go throughout my bones.

Each time I hear/feel something a bit more inspirational. Like today (in sleep) hearing musical notes/ sounds harmoniously played from droplets of water hitting different surfaces lol.

In waking, it would make my head hurt with thinking to try and recreate that.


What next?....don't know?...its my journey. I have always had vivid dreams, always, they're much nicer now and I don't have nightmares.

Interestingly the people around me don't seem to remember their dreams, let alone try to control them!

I am in total awe of those who are having bigger adventures.

Please, please keep sharing...

oops!! shoulda done that this way!!

mona, mona, mona !!!


You make my face smile Dear. ccc.

[Arak]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
I use to have that sort of thing happen all the time when I was workin on my third eye opening. Could be that, but don't know.

Could be indeed! I have been working now for few months with 3rd eye opening. Surprisingly hard task (to me) atleast.

[Jake]

Posted by mona (here)
Hi everyone and all

I'm still reading this thread with great interest

The reason I like it here is because there is an underpin of heart and soul, like an energy that I feel drawn to, even though I don't post often I check here daily for new posts and then get disappointed when there aren't any!!

I read other threads, and no disrespect to anyone meant, but they can feel a bit clinical, like a one size fits all approach, and I instinctively shy away.

This is the reason I resonate with the energy of Sirdipswitch, as there is a nice combination of straight talking, no nonsense, back to basics mixed with humility and humour.

Anyway I thought I should share my journey, especially as I suspect there are many others reading who don't have the courage to post and may feel a bit stupid as their own experiences don't match the up to others who seem more advanced.

I seem to have these vibrations regularly ( although in my experience vibration is an understatement)....I proudly call them "great shuddering's of little substance"

They lead straight into controlled dream which I guess the familiar term is called lucid.

So.. I have the great shuddering's of nLS at which point I am completely aware that I am in control, then come the thoughts of excitement anticipation, followed by me trying to get out of body by any technique and then into Lucid dreaming, which I must say is exhilarating in itself.

I attempt to fly and I do, i go up and up and then in every dream as soon as I reach the outer realms, sink ( nicely) back down.

At all stages I am aware that I am either in a dream, am definitely in control and anticipate OBE.
I try grabbing rope , forcing myself out and just when I think I am out, after great resistance (like double vision, slow motion) I look back at the bed and see a different distorted picture, so I can say for sure that I am not OBE, only Lucid.

Well... all of my lucid dreams are very exciting and controllable (to an extent) throughout. The shuddering's are huge and again I am aware of zoning in and out, they literally go throughout my bones.

Each time I hear/feel something a bit more inspirational. Like today (in sleep) hearing musical notes/ sounds harmoniously played from droplets of water hitting different surfaces lol.

In waking, it would make my head hurt with thinking to try and recreate that.


What next?....don't know?...its my journey. I have always had vivid dreams, always, they're much nicer now and I don't have nightmares.

Interestingly the people around me don't seem to remember their dreams, let alone try to control them!

I am in total awe of those who are having bigger adventures.

Please, please keep sharing...

Hello, Mona!!! I can attest to the intense vibrational state!!! Many projectors do not experience the vibrations. Buhlmans online surveys suggest that about a third of projectors will experience intense vibrations and/ or other intense energetic sensations. It must have to do with physical/non-physical energy body integration or separation!! There are lots of theories. My advise is to try and stay calm! This is the exact point when you focus on an exit. Stay calm and 'relax into' the energetic sensations... Many times an exit attempt will end in failure, leaving me completely exhausted!!! Try and keep in mind that many times we will remember (experience) an OBE through the goggles of our 'dreaming mind'!!! Meaning that many OBEs are being remembered as dreams... A fully conscious OBE will last only about 45 seconds to a minute before it slips into a much more 'astral' experience. I have had much longer projections, but typically, they are quite short. Seeing through closed eyelids is typical at this point too!!!

Try to remember to keep your first OBEs short!!! And:

WELCOME TO FLIGHT SCHOOL!!!!!