Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

[sheme]

I think the bombing took place, who was responsible is debatable, I think the ptb and FBI turned a blind eye were /or coerced the perpetrators, they are guilty by omission or collaboration. Another pathetic sorry mess.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
This is just a post about emotions, not logic or painstaking research...

I don't feel I have added much to this thread other than conjecture and gut feeling.

Thank you Dennis and congratulations for your inner work in reaching an increased level of honesty.

I apologize in advance for taking your post as a generic case of too many instances of similars by looking at it from the point of view of "psyops" and not as a personal criticism since I, too, fall for these short cuts.

First what are "psyops" and what are they designed to do:

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Hi Amzer Zo,

I think you may be giving me credit where credit is not due and misinterpreting some of my words (or I failed to properly state my thoughts and feelings.)

It appears that you think I have said something like, "well, I can't prove it is not fake so it must be real." Or, that I accept the explanations/rationalizations made by several people (notably yourself) simply because I did not challenge them as conclusive.

I don't want to go over your very long post point-by-point, but a few things I'll mention:

here, you have already launched into me being an unwitting accomplice to a psyop - but your version of the psyop is a completely real bomb scene that truthers got sucked-into picking apart as if it was fake.

"questions were answered with substantiated evidence:

• a real bomb that blasted double-paneled windows either on its blast pressure wave or on its vacuum generated back-flow wave
• real people, not actors. Jeff Bauman being the main focus
• real injuries, not applied make-up or prosthetic
• real dead bodies
• all the above captured within 15 seconds to a few minutes from the bomb blast

"

The window WAS exploded. You say the shards were vacuumed outwards from a pressure wave secondary to (and opposite) the blast trajectory. I'm no explosives expert (other than playing with big firecrackers as a kid) and I'm not aware if there is or is not a vacuum caused after an explosion like this. In fact, even if that is true, shards would have flown into the window first, taking shards in.
Bauman is not Voght, (just to state that), but his lack of gushing blood, his overall skin tone, and his countenance was my leading suspicion that made me investigate further. To my eyes, in every photo, and in every frame of video, we see blood but not bleeding. I do not see active bleeding. It defies explanation - even though I'm told that blood vessels naturally get sealed off by muscle contraction... that has not ever happened to me or anyone I have seen in person bleeding.

There is a mighty explosion. A fireball appears to be right in the center of the crowd. People die and legs get blown off but not one person gets their hair burned off. Hair burns amazingly easily, and I can simply not imagine how a fireball ripped through the crowd and we did not see a dozen people with their hair on fire or badly singed from the fireball. I mentioned this quite a while ago, and no one posited a believable explanation.

"If one is unable to take a look at these pictures due to sensitivities, then why comment taking the side of "it's all/partly fake and a movie-set?" Or is it the sensitivity self-preservation kicking in?

From a psyop point of view, that comment also implies the subliminal corollary: what is the "genre" of the people who would pore over these gory pictures to find evidence? Typical MSM psyop innuendo."

"Genre" was a poorly chosen word on my part - probably should have said "milieu." Some people faint when they get their blood drawn. Others, somehow, can put their head into an entirely objective mode while looking at gruesome subjective crime scene material. I fall somewhere between the extremes, but found that the more I stared the more it made me feel queasy. And yes, I could say the same watching some gory movie (which I avoid) where I would hit a threshold of gore that was just too much - no matter that I knew it was stage makeup.

I don't think anyone has come up with definitive answers. Having looked at what other researchers "see" in video clips, I do not see the same things they do. I do not see definitive proof of prosthetic horror-show blown-up limbs being attached, for example. So, I am not comfortable concluding that this has been solved.

However:
There is a scene full of blood but no bleeders - a scene that looks like an explosion of slightly gelatinous blood packets, a window exploded outwards though the bomb's shock wave and especially shrapnel should have taken the window inward, I see an immense orange-hot fireball that miraculously misses everyone's hair, I see cops encircling the blast area, keeping people out, and only one cop within the zone of wounded, trying to give trauma aid. I am made aware of crisis training actors with missing limbs who could possibly have staged a scene like this. I see what I believe is an obvious misdirection psyop of the exploded black backpack, all the security guys with black backpacks, and the suspects with a white and a gray backpack. Later, I find out that these brothers were Islamic jihadists, with an interesting Russian twist. Throw-in that fact that the FBI (notorious for aiding or creating would-be bombers over the past decade) denies then admits they have been in contact with one of the suspects.

Nope. I do not believe the official conspiracy theory. I simply could not prove the crime scene is false (and hold onto my reasoning as hope that it did not happen as the MSM portrays - loss of life and limb.) Nor have I seen anyone else prove the crime scene is false.

Not being able to prove it is a faked scene does not guarantee that it was a real scene. I tried. I spent some time trying to figure out if my gut sense on this (starting from the no-drip wheelchair ride) was correct, and it ended up inconclusive - and the explanations for the oddities in the scene do not pass muster for me. I hope I'm right, because if not, this was horrific and deadly. I know that the US government either planned and executed it, or at the very least will not let a good crisis go to waste. As each (very real) drone bomb in the phony 'war on terror' killing villagers attests, we are dealing with psychopaths capable of literally anything. Swallowing the US government's narrative of what happened in Boston involves a leap of faith I don't have.

If your gut is right on this, and it is a completely real scene of death and destruction, and the US government orchestrated injecting the Voght meme and then leaked the amputee crisis actors meme, and so on, then they really need to take a bow. If they run psyops at this level, few among us are immune. It would also mean they just got incredibly lucky with Bauman being one of the toughest people on the planet.

Dennis

[Slorri]

Posted by 778 neighbour of some guy (here)
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Sorry, it would still be a huge bleeding mess, these things are just not that easy, 100 meters run and not a drop spilled, not buying it, renting it, leasing it or believing it, there is another image of this guy and some other people somewhere down the thread, all laying on the ground, relaxed faces like waiting for the picnic basket, smiling lady in the background, all going as planned, good job guys. Look it up.
I am out of here btw, no good can come of this thread, IMO we are looking at the wrong hand while Cornholio the Great pulls of another crappy trick.

Bye now

I agree. This is so.

This event, and those picture are meant to confuse us. And they are confusing. It's a really grand job this. Was the test the successful lock-down of Boston?

Now we should wonder: What is Cornholio up to next?

[witchy1]

The chap on the right of him has a main artery in his thumb and finger the victim is applying pressure on his femoral artery

Really sheme - what artery would that be?

I would still like someone / anyone to provide a reasonable explanation as to what the tube is on Jeffs butt



For me its time to bow out gracefully from this thread. I tried
W

[Hervé]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

It isn't so much that he is alive, since:

i remember one time working the box out in the county , this guy got both legs ran over by a train and funny thing is there was no blood just major crushing so i have seen weird thing’s emt-b career FD…..texas
Posted by james temple | April 21, 2013, 9:34 am
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When you cut an artery cleanly then it bleeds out. When arteries are torn the muscles around the artery contracts and the muscles put enough pressure on the arteries to stop them from bleeding out. Although in a while the muscles relax and the artery is free to bleed out. Think of it like an Umbilical cord, We cut them so we need to stop the bleeding, animals on the other hand chew them and that stops them from bleeding out. I hope that helps you understand.
Posted by Dave | April 21, 2013, 12:11 pm
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... but that he wasn't carted out as a priority. Unless, with blood circulation in his legs being shut down from the physiological shock, priority was given to the continuous bleeders?

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Can anyone spot the blood drips around this shoe? They are there...

Recap posts # 474 and # 555

Hair cuts...

"Guy # 2"

[sheme]

Probably this one https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=an...33%3B250%3B378

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Posted by witchy1 (here)

The chap on the right of him has a main artery in his thumb and finger the victim is applying pressure on his femoral artery

Really sheme - what artery would that be?

I would still like someone / anyone to provide a reasonable explanation as to what the tube is on Jeffs butt

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For me its time to bow out gracefully from this thread. I tried
W

Probably this one

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=an...33%3B250%3B378

[InCiDeR]

Woman's DNA found on Boston bomb

Female DNA has been found on at least one of the Boston Marathon bombs, but investigators have not determined whose it is or whether it indicates a woman helped the two brothers blamed for the deadly April 15 blasts, USA TODAY has confirmed.

An official, who asked not to be identified, said there could be multiple explanations, including a store clerk who handled materials that Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother, Dzhokhar, used to make the bombs, or perhaps genetic material that unwittingly ended up on the explosive devices, perhaps from a marathon bystander.

Earlier Monday, FBI agents went to a Rhode Island home to collect a DNA sample from Katherine Russell Tsarnaeva, the widow of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who died in a shootout with police April 19. She has been staying with her parents since the bombings.

The sample will be compared with the genetic material recovered...

Source

[Dennis Leahy]

Amzer Zo, the hi-res photos I downloaded of Jeff in the wheelchair do not look like singed hair, but the close-up one you posted with the guy in the blue sweatshirt (with facial blood) in the wheelchair does look exactly like fire-singed hair.

Any further psychoanalysis of why I still am left with doubts despite what you believe are complete answers will have to be done in absentia. I'm out.

Dennis

[Slorri]

AUGUMENTED REALITY

Boston Bombings Hoodie Sunglass Guy - JOHN KERRY Connection

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zzliij_O-z8

[william6565william]

Must see reveals all!

http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/...-do-you-think/

[Hervé]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Amzer Zo, the hi-res photos I downloaded of Jeff in the wheelchair do not look like singed hair...

[...]

Dennis

Pre-bombing:

Bombing:

Post bombing:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1326121

[donk]

The red pentagram is undeniable proof of some sort of satanism going on here.

Seriously, I haven't read any of the last couple dozen pages or so, has anyone asked this

Does there really need to be so much mystery around this? In this day and age with our current technology and the general nosiness of the American populace, is it that difficult to produce a list of everyone that was actually there, whether of not they had any eye witness account of what happened, and thousands more pics that probably exist?

I have been saying this since 911: how can we have so public of a "mystery" in this day and age? Didn't we learn anything from JFK?

...oh yeah, we did: that the general populace will eat up anything the "authorities" say on teevee. That if a crime is big enough and public enough we don't a clean and closed investigation...half ass nonsense will not only do, but will be aggressively defended.

We get so caught up in all these silly details, we forget to ask: shouldn't at least someone be getting fired for not being able to provide anything but confusion on these details? Is it really ok that anything this high profile is "debatable" these days?

[RMorgan]

From inforwars:

Video footage from the scene of the shootout with the alleged Boston bombers appears to contain audio of the suspects screaming out, “We didn’t do it!” as police fire on the two brothers.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EtKO-hV44cU

Although by no means clear, the words below appear to be shouted by the suspects as they come under police gunfire.
- 24 seconds: “chill out”
- 26 seconds: “chill out”, “chill out”
- 31 seconds: “chill out”
- 37 seconds: “we didnt do it”
- 41 seconds: “we didnt do it”
- 45 seconds: “we didnt do it”
- 1 minute 9 seconds: “hey officer”

As a side note, listening the the gunshots, it seems that they all belong to the same caliber, or the same gun model. It doesn´t sound like the brothers and the police were shooting each other.

[Slorri]

Is the last line in the video: "State police want to shoot them" ?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by william6565william (here)
Must see reveals all!

http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/...-do-you-think/

I merged your new thread in with the thread where this has been and continues to be discussed at some length.

[Slorri]

"It is fun to be fooled"

Marco Tempest: A magical tale (with augmented reality)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C4pHP-pgwlI

Boston Bombings Augmented Reality & How They Fool Us

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uohlj433Svg

[Maia Gabrial]

I just finished David Wilcock's latest blog and I wanted to laugh. He called this WORSE than 911. So NOT TRUE! What I saw was so staged. People are starting to point out all that's wrong with this supposed "bombing". Geez! And even I noticed that the "runners" didn't respond as if this explosion were real. And no one looked in convincing pain to me either! What I want to know is WHY the medias are portraying this DISASTER DRILL as the real thing...?

None of these "actors" have convinced me. Look at the woman who lost part of her left leg. Does that look like someone who JUST lost her leg? NOT in this lifetime! The medias, actors and directors of this DRILL should hang their heads in shame for playing this scam on people...
Just my rant for the day.....

[778 neighbour of some guy]

What I want to know is WHY the medias are portraying this DISASTER DRILL as the real thing...?

Participating in a stress test drill, for the cause of their paymasters.

None of the actors stepping up is even weirder. I am guessing a free lunch is not all they get out of it, not many participated, must have been cheaper than a blockbuster too, go figure.

[InCiDeR]

Oki, if we ponder about the idea that everything was staged. There had to be A LOT of people involved. EMT people, bystanders, people working at the hospital, ambulance, police, FBI, CSTs, politicians, actors, family members to actors, relatives and even neighbours etc etc.

I mean, not a single neighbour to the actors have said...."Hey! This guy were amputee before the bombings! What's going on?".

Many people on the pay list, and many people to make sure they don't talk...

On the other hand... have you seen any of the victims to be sad or angry afterwards?
I would be at least a bit upset and sad if I recently lost two legs, probably it would take me some time to overcome that feeling.
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Everything regarding this bombings seems to be odd in one way or another. But probably it is staged to be confusing...

[Hervé]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
[...]

Any further psychoanalysis of why I still am left with doubts despite what you believe are complete answers will have to be done in absentia. I'm out.

Dennis

I do not work from "belief" nor from gut feelings, Dennis, I work on objective data and their direct implication(s).

For example, this lady who was located at the back of "Guy # 2":

She exhibits a post-bombing strange hairdo on her left side beside her slashed left hand and legs; she is also wearing some kind of winter jacket which left sleeve is badly missing a good portion of its (synthetic?) fabric covering... One wonders what would do that to such a jacket... beside some kind of acid or strong heat... let's see... she was standing next to a bomb blast... so... rather than acid... could it possibly be a heat-shrink melt of that fabric?

As for blood tracks, they are easier to spot on smooth surfaces than on "hematophillic," dirt cover, road pavements: