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    Quote Posted by dpwishy (here)
    But ironically the thing that gave them their power,
    is the very thing that is going to destroy them.
    When you create a sigil and charge it it must be destroyed,
    this stops other magicians from using it as a weapon against you.
    With the proper know how all that energy you charged can be manipulated against you.
    When the population wakes up enough to understand and use this,
    these symbols will be their down fall.
    Bumping this. See post #10
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    Default Re: Illuminati Symbolism (Knowledge = Power?)

    Yes.... although there were several great replies here, I did find dpwishy's contributions particularly intriguing. For one thing, although I am no 'magician', I actually had read some of that before elsewhere, namely regarding the need for sigils to be destroyed in order to be effective. I have no direct experience with them, but it does all seem rather interesting.

    So dpwishy; I respect what you meant regarding free will and knowledge 'when the time is right', and I cannot speak for everyone, but it does seem that several of us would appreciate further elaboration on this subject if you would be so kind.
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    Default Re: Illuminati Symbolism (Knowledge = Power?)

    Quote Posted by dpwishy (here)
    I didn't mean it in any kind of condescending way.
    I just don't think its fair to rattle off things to a certain degree without being asked.

    As for free will,
    Ill argue its just an illusion.
    You/I are just a puppet on a string playing out another's dream,
    but that's for another thread all together
    I don't find you anywhere even close to being condescending at all.

    Everyone's now been properly warned, and are now aware that they witness your truth at their own risk. Now no one in their right mind could hold you responsible, sounds like i speak for others as I insist...please proceed

    It may be an illusion, I'm inclined to agree with you there, though it (fw) feels real enough not to make a difference to me! It sure feels like it me choosing to beg you to share more

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    In regards to magic, it is energy, and energy has no intent, it just is. Energy used with malintent will always effect detrimental change in the person sending it. Thus they crumble by their own hand. With every step they take forward in the foreground, they take take two steps backwards in the background. This becomes more and more apparent every day. We see it in their desperation, and in their carelessness. We see it in the way they now turn against each other.

    I would therefore add a caution as to using their own magic against them with ill-intent. No personal or collective good can ever come from ill-intent.

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    I would postulate the avalability of good symbology is high for said society ie. they would have access to ancient scripts, more so than us. I would further postulate the symbols are much much older and in some cases much newer as is aincient knowledge the ability to create symbols and talismans using ancient methods employing alchemy for example.

    Symbols are usually versatile and can be used for versatile outcomes especially when used in combination. Others have very specific purposes. Much of the Intention and Outcome of the use of symbols geatly depends on the Initiate or Adept. Much like a pen can be used to write poetry or to poke out an eye.

    Then there is the lore skewed with modern tales for wht a pentagram is for , being evil mostly .. however this is hugely incorrect. It is shrowded in evil so that WE do not go near it .. and maybe discover its power.

    Symbols can also pertain to bodily meridians embedded in our subtle body and correlate to their function.

    All magical damages are usually precedded with a concent of sorts. The concent is up to the individual. The individuals power is proportional to their mind and preperation and dicipline.

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    Thank you for creating this topic, Freed Fox. Many good comments and especially dpwishy's knowledge is really valuable, I just learned something new! I hope that dpwishy will share more of his wisdom here in the future.
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    Naniu, we don't need access to scripts, the symbols of power are within us. When we meditate upon things of power, the chakras, the archetypal angelic beings, the symbols rise before us like the rising sun or the rising moon.

    And these two are a key to unlock the door. Picture the sun rising in the left hemisphere of your brain, transecting above the corpus collosum and setting in the right hemisphere. Then picture the sun rising in the right hemisphere of the brain, and setting in the left. Then, picture the moon doing the same - left to right, and right to left. Then do the same for the letters of the alphabet, and then for the numbers 1 through 27. Then, when this becomes easy, take in energy from the root chakra, take it to the crown and bring it back to the root. Take in energy from the crown, bring it to the root, then back to the crown. Then take energy in simultaneously from root and crown, and unite them within the heart chakra.

    Symbols should come now. Don't have expectations, just receive what comes.

    Consent, yes, you are right. Consent is all, and we are harmed by our consent, which most often is a vacuum within us. I posted on the nature of possession and psychic attack a while ago, and I will take the liberty of repeating it here, because it is relevant:
    Quote Are there entities that attack and possess us? I would say yes, and no. Like the vampire, nothing external can possess us unless we grant permission, but that permission at root is nothing but a “lack” or “void” within us. In most cases, however, I believe we are “possessed” by aspects of ourselves.

    On our journey, we encounter events, concepts or emotions that we are unable to deal with at that moment, so we put them aside. This is natural, part of our emotional and psychological defence system, but while the idea is that we process these things when we are better equipped, this all too often never occurs. The energy inherent in these things becomes attached to aspects of ourselves that are likewise problematic (or which identify with the energy), and we then repress the fragment. Additionally, society pinpoints aspects of ourselves that it deems undesirable, and pressurises and brainwashes us into repressing or sublimating them. These repressed or altered fragments are then available to accrue the energies of fear, disinformation, and propaganda that are our staple diet if we consume mainstream media output. These isolated pieces of ourselves do truly take on a mind of their own, and they often control us at an unconscious level, leading us to say things like “I don’t know what came over me”, or “that person has a demon in them”. While these hidden aspects may feel like an external entity to us, they are merely distortions of parts of ourselves.

    The most common type of “possession” by an “external” entity is where our thoughts, emotions, memories and perceptions of another person are attached to a fragment of ourselves and allowed to assert autonomous control of that fragment as a simulacrum of an actual person. This kind of possession is really another expression of self-possession, and often concerns influential people in our lives with whom we have unresolved issues, commonly a parent. This type of possession is often very difficult for the person concerned to discern, and we usually do ourselves no favours bringing the condition to the person’s attention.

    There are two types of external possession, though these also often manifest more as psychic attacks, rather than actual possession. Some people are very psychically adept and agile. They have mastered the ability to energetically explore their environment, however this often leads to unwanted insertion into another’s psyche. Here we are concerned with the energy of intent: what is the purpose of the incursion? Are we dealing with neutral curiosity only, or malign intent? Love will most often not enter another’s psyche without consent or reason, so we need not deal with that here. One who enters another’s psyche with malign intent may take the appearance of a demon, and in fact this is close to the truth, because the part of the “demon” is driven by the needs of a self-repressed fragment of the “possessor” which has been demonised through the accretion of energies that society has taught us to regard as “evil”, or “bad”, or “dirty”. The possessing fragment is usually “sent out” consciously – with malign intent – but it is useful to remember that this type of psychic attack or “possession” is a symptom of the “possessor’s” pain.

    Lastly, there does exist the phenomenon of possession by a discarnate energy. These energies may be anything from consciousness (or even a thought form) lost in transition, to one case I know of where a man was possessed by a fragment of the spirit of a cave bear (the fragment either held genetically from an ancestor, or from a previous incarnation). Hypnotic regression revealed that the possessed man had a memory of killing a cave bear with the conscious intent of taking the admirable qualities of the bear into himself. My feeling is that most of these entities lack any kind of conscious direction, they are merely attracted by a void within us, and attach or insinuate themselves wherever possible. This is simply an expression of energetic principles, and these types of possession, though annoying, may not always have overly adverse effects on the individual. We may also be externally possessed by thought forms generated by society (or elements within it), that are inserted or insinuated through propaganda, dogma, mind control, personality breakdown and reconstruction, hypnosis, technology, etc. There does exist (rarely) the possession by a strong and conscious discarnate energy operating with malign intent, and this possession may be “second hand” through another possessed individual. These conscious, malign entities in fact may seek out psychically gifted individuals as vehicles, or the gifted individual’s self-possessed fragment may be the “demon” in question, so there is some cross-over here between the different kinds of possession. Malign, conscious entities ensure their survival within an individual by first taking over the egoic functions, so possessed individuals often present as aggressive (and aggressively defensive), arrogant, and omniscient. These entities expend great amounts of the energy of their chosen vehicle establishing the primacy of the ego over the heart (or higher consciousness). Why is this? – because love is the only thing they fear.

    Love is a no fail method for dealing with this type of attack. Using love to repel malign intent reduces the possibility of harm coming to the would-be attacker, but be warned: using psychic energy with malign intent toward another individual will always have a negative effect on the attacker, no matter how much they blind themselves to this simple energetic truth. If we seek to inflict harm on the vehicle of the psychic attack, there will be some adverse payback for us, a further expression of energetic principles. To become immune to psychic attack and possession we must have no “holes” or “voids” within us – we must give no “permission”. Each void is a whirlpool of fear that accrues “negative” energy. Each void is a part of us that we have excluded from love. Our permanent immunity comes with internal unity.

    As we address the hurts and denials of life, we experience the rising of repressed aspect after repressed aspect, and some of them seem huge, powerful and frightening. Imagine how you would feel if as an infant you had been locked in a cupboard, kept in the dark, and fed on nothing but the bugs and vermin that managed to find their way into your prison, all the while hearing the party going on outside? Deep and long buried fragments can accrue substantial energy, and since we have already seen that the energy available to repressed fragments is the dark, bad, socially unacceptable stuff, it is not surprising these parts of ourselves are strong, angry and frightening. As repressed fragments arise, don’t fear; just centre yourself in the heart. Send love to the aspect, surround it with loving acceptance, welcome it home, love it unconditionally – warts and all. Energy has two channels down which it may flow when confronted with pure love – transformation (transmutation) and reintegration into either the personal or collective consciousness, or flight. It really is that simple, but the difficulty comes with our own belief in love. If we are not whole individuals, but individuals with “holes”, then we will remain liable to attack or possession. If we do not truly believe in the power of love, then our efforts to repel psychic attack or possession will be directed by the ego, and as such, unsuccessful. If we get angry at psychic attack, we could consider that anger is nothing but fear mediated by ego-consciousness. Stand in love, and all will be well.

    Never forget that psychic attack is symptomatic of pain within the attacker. Always meet attack with love, and give the energy the opportunity to transform. If the energy chooses retreat, it returns to source, and unfortunately there is no way that the attacker can prevent this malign energy from manifesting in their own life as misfortune or ill-health. Feel no guilt over this, unfortunate as it is, for the attacker has their own journey for which they alone are responsible.

    Stand in love – all is well.

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    Quote Posted by music (here)
    we don't need access to scripts, the symbols of power are within us. When we meditate upon things of power, the chakras, the archetypal angelic beings, the symbols rise before us like the rising sun or the rising moon.
    Yes. The original language of this planet was all symbols. Symbols elicit both hemispheres of the brain to work in balance, the emotions to be stirred, and the visions of the upper celestial chakras to be involved. This is why symbology had to be destroyed and a patriarchal textual language developed.

    Otherwise, we would be self realized, self aware psychic emotional beings who could not be manipulated with lies because this emotional symbolic language has the ability to manifest with pure thought intention. How fun would that be?
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    Interesting discussion. How much power these symbols really have on us? How about if the interpretation to those symbols changes, does that also change the energetic impact on us? An example to it might be the voodo ritual, it is proved to have a serious life and death affect on those who believe in it, and almost no impact on those who don't. It is said about crop circles that it is enough to glance at them and their energetic vibration will leave it's mark on the beholder. Geometry shapes are considered a language in their own right and convey a certain frequency within extraterrestrial cultures, so it's really hard to tell.

    When it comes to Illuminati symbols, I am quite indifferent about it and don't succumb to the scare tactics that might accompany those hidden messages. Just the same as with voodo, It doesn't have the power on us if we don't allow it, although it might be ingrained with a small amount of mind control effect on the unsuspecting viewers or on those who take the exegetics that someone else put on it and believe it's power.

    Illuminati symbolism are indeed ancient. In the northern region part of Israel, there's the ancient synagogue of Baram. The main facade of those ruins remains intact for 2,000 years, on top of it I could locate the pyramid symbol with an inside circle which very much resembles an eye, apparently it is a 2,000 years old symbol (please see below picture 1).

    On Avebury manor in the village of Avebury, southwest of England (near the ancient stone circle), I could identify the known Pineal Gland symbol, easy to find in the Vatican as well, decorates the garden. (bellow pictures 2 & 3)

    The last picture I took at the monestery of the cross which is located in the valey of the cross in Jerusalem, The place is a masonic/illuminati stronghold. Right above the enterence to the small inner chapel there was this Horus all seeing eye.(picture 4 & 5)


    We put heavier weight on the importance of those symbols when we take it at face value. If we change the interpretation then the vibration will change as well. This is how I view it.
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    Default Re: Illuminati Symbolism (Knowledge = Power?)

    reluctance is to be regarded.

    symbols would be as a map. the map shows something of the map maker.

    to be able to destroy,-in a mode, as 'one looking with the downward glare of the tiger'
    that one, would have to know the energy system mapped,,,better than the map maker.
    & only one would be able to destroy if other energy users of the system abused that system to create negative outputs.

    so ask for the knowledge from dpwishy only if you ready to evolve in your view of life and gird your stomach well (or you may puke and regress, such knowledge may only have been revealed from the higher powers into this mortal plane for those who desired it as everything/those who cried out)
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    Quote Posted by Freed Fox (here)
    Thanks guys.

    The OP was really more of an idea - a suggestion of a possibility - rather than any kind of absolute assertion of my position.

    A.D., I don't think you are necessarily disagreeing with my point (which, btw, was not to avoid any study of symbology whatsoever). As several of you have correctly pointed out here, symbols are all too frequently high-jacked and co-opted to mean something perhaps contrary to what they meant originally. My suggestion was to avoid getting too caught up in Illuminati-specific symbolism which, in this case, would be tied to their intended meanings and not necessarily the original/traditional connotations.

    For instance, let's say as a simplistic example, that they intend any depiction of devil-like horns to mean impending death (and by extension, a means to elicit fear in non-illuminati). If you have no prior knowledge of how the Illuminati uses this symbol, then you will likely not feel the fear that they want to provoke. If you are 'in the know', you can always try to resist this fear, but it will still at least be lingering in the back of your mind. This is all rather in the spirit of 'wherever thoughts go, there too energy flows'.

    There is plenty of other knowledge with which to empower oneself, setting aside concerns over the Illuminati. This principle need not be followed by everyone, but there are those with the tendency to become somewhat obsessive in learning as much as they can, painting the Illuminati as their enemy, all the while unwittingly feeding them their energy. This is, after all, a group which prides itself upon manipulating from behind the scenes, obscured by shadows, and as such cannot be confronted directly... Although I would wholeheartedly agree that they do not see the big picture, and do not wield the kind of absolute influence for which they crave.
    Example:

    The horns are actually the horns of enlightenment and represent the hemispheres, chakra energies, or what not. They have nothing to do with evil and devils and so on. That is just the tip of the iceberg of their meanings and connections, it goes much deeper.
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    Symbols... interesting...

    When one gets a good grip on the concept that we are not alone and have never been; coupled with a realization that mind control is as old as this universe be it through seduction, art, logic, hypnotic/drug implants or trauma based, MKultra implant type of mind control; then the following might begin to make some sense:

    Quote … and then you are looking for a helicopter and go “what the hell…” it’s R6 boy and nothing else. I don’t know, I think for about a day or two that it takes this helicopter to crash in R6.

    There is no helicopter there, the guy is frozen in alcohol and glycol sitting on blocks and being given a big 3D Cecil B. DeMille special motion picture.

    They were [?imported?], they were actually… the trick was to shoot somebody, disable somebody, very often a needle into a lung and at the same time to hit him with frozen alcohol and glycol which preparation is guaranteed to pick up a thetan. All they had to do was: pick him up and put him in a refrigerator and they had him boy. When he tried to exteriorize from the body, there he was -- frozen.

    Although it’s a fairly simple implant but it was quite effective in lousing people up because it interrupted them from creating what they would have created and took away what mock-ups that he did have and it stopped the cycle and it put something there that is unwanted and so when they tried to create, they created it [the “unwanted”]. They fixed his attention by “protest.”

    Now, that is peculiar and only to this planet and to this confederation. There have been other implants of various kind and sizes but this is probably one of the longest, most violent and wildest implant in this sector of the universe.

    For this planet, and for this Confederacy of the 21 adjacent stars and its 76 planets; the Incident Two… it is a very long and [?] complex incident… all in 36 days.

    These planets averaged 178 billion human beings per planet. One hundred and seventy eight billion. There were 250 billion on this planet [Earth], the name of this planet was Teegeeak and this is known as the “bomb-place” and this is the “evil place.” This is the place [?pretty much all of it?] got smashed.

    People were ferried in here by the billions and the billions and the billions and they were ferried in here with boxes and they were put in boxes and stacked around and the people who were on this planet already, just caught it in the teeth, nobody bothered to pick them up.

    These were brought down, packed up and put in front of projection machines [?] with sound and colored pictures. First gave them the implant which you know as “Clearing Course.” Then, a whole track [was] implanted which you know as OT II.

    After this, however, about the remainder of the 36 days, which is the bulk of it, is taken up with a 3D, super colossal motion picture which has to do with “God,” the Devil, Space Opera, etc.

    The entirety of Roman Catholicism, the devil and all of these sorts of things, that is all part of R6. Practically anything you can think of, all modern theatres in actual fact are built with the exact symbols shown [???] in R6. They even have the symbol on the boxes on the side of the theatre; they preserved those to this day, it’s so indelible. They are not quite “right” but they still know there’s supposed to be a design on those boxes at the sides of the audience to the left and right. So there’s supposed to be a certain “gold gilt” design over there and they still put it there.

    Somebody, somewhere on this planet -- back about 600 BC [Zoroaster, from the limited dating known in the 1950s], found some pieces of R6. I don’t know how they found it, either by watching madmen or something, but since that time, they have used it and it became what is known as Christianity.

    The Catholic church, somewhere along the line, through watching the dramatizations of people, picked up some little fragments of R6 and they make it look like it’s continued forward into present time.

    The man on the cross… there was no Christ but the man on the cross is shown as every man so, of course, each person seeing a crucified man has an immediate feeling of sympathy for this man. Thus we get many PCs who say they are Christ. Now, there are two reasons for that. One is the Roman Empire was prone to crucify people. So a person can have been crucified. But in R6, he is shown AS crucified.

    In R6, every man is shown crucified, so is the psychiatrist shown crucified. Although the psychiatrist is a dominant character, that’s how he gets away with what he gets away with, he electric-shocks people. The medical doctor is not really represented in R6, it is only the surgeon. The surgeon is shown cutting bodies to pieces – that’s the right thing to do – actually he strips the body down to just raw meat down to just the skeleton and the skeleton is in agony and then it too is shopped up.

    Anyway, every man… is then shown to have been crucified so don’t think that it is an accident because of the crucifixion they found out that this applied.

    -- this civilization [current "Western World"] has simply copied R6, 100% because they were told to --

    What this is really designed to do is to make the individual cease and desist from creation and to knock off over-population. This is one of the big ideas they had that if they just did all this then they’ll get rid of all the overpopulation. The target of this is the Second Dynamic. So it is truly Second Dynamic suppressions. For instance, you find people who are totally obsessed with sex with children, well, that is taught in R6. Nice guys. [where the Agenda 21/Global 2000 obsession is coming from]

    Now, the net result of all of this, was to make a 75 million year vacuum. That’s as far as this part of the universe is concerned. You wonder why: “Why don’t… if there are saucers around, why don’t they land on this planet?”

    This planet, traditionally, over the various zones and area has an evil reputation. Mutineers and deserters and that sort of thing were often dumped on this planet. They’ll often come here and refuge because they know nobody’s gonna come after them.

    This planet is the planet of the evil repute and this sector of the universe has a very evil repute.

    Now, all the data which you have that was set out seventy four fluff-fluff-fluff million years ago – almost seventy five – this catastrophe overcame this confederation and has just made it an unsavory part of this universe, to say the least.

    About, well, relatively, we are almost in modern times -- 20 million years ago, something like that – somebody started a body line on the planet; it gradually worked through various areas of barbarism and once more, R6 tailored made it to be nothing but a caveman civilization.

    Nevertheless, they moved up the line and they moved up toward the dramatization of R6 and that’s what man calls “progress.” And they have managed to make things, this way and that way and their technology is rather pathetic but they’ve moved up the line until they… until there is some possibilities of establishing communication with regard to the activity. The “fate” of the R6ers and we have many a PC who will say to you “Oh my god, they are after me…” it sure fixed up an area, they fixed up an implant that their… people are taught carefully that any man who tries to save the world must be killed, he must be mobbed, hanged.

    Any man who tries to save the world… so I, of course, shifted our valence over to a mock-up to [?tune?] to their R6 valence. The whole population of the planet responds like a clock to R6 symbols: they respond to nothing else. They do not respond to reason, they only respond to R6 symbols. So, you occupy the wrong symbol and people begin to think of you as a person who is going to save the planet. Then, one and all are more or less under orders to swatter you.

    There are certain things which make people ill and that is when they get into certain zones or areas or positions which approximate the R6 positions; such as a body lying in the rain with a rat, below the cross. Guaranteed to give people colds. And so forth, so you have colds from rain. Yet you take baths, you get wet and don’t get a cold. When they get cold, it restimulates frozen alcohol and glycol, as a mix, and therefore they get into a dramatization. So, their sickness is very closely tied-in with R6. Quite in addition to that, but one [of] the volcanoes – Japan – on its explosion gave a certain definite implant that tells people when and how to be sick: they are supposed to be sick at five, they are supposed to be sick at 10, they are supposed to be sick – and so on – up to 50. the change of life that men get and women get and so on is all dictated in this sickness implant; people are supposed to get sick. Also, a body was only supposed to live seventy years which is a bunch of balderdash. Before R6, and so forth they lived on and on and on and on… there was no such thing as death. They taught people death, they taught them amnesia, these various things. They all come from this zone and area.


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    Symbols, eh... there you have it, the entirety of their whole power: the triggering/restimulation of past implants into being actualized/enacted out.

    That's where these symbols' whole power resides.

    When one keeps rationally analyzing this (now I am taking refuge behind that blue couch), well, symbols, archetypes, etc... are not much more than the unconscious "creative" translations of these implanted contents... and if one extends this analysis to "awakenings" and "spontaneous" chakras and kundalini experiences... as nothing more than unraveling these implants' suppressive commands... on is truly on its way to genuine awakening... or becoming overwhelmed by these implants' crushing thumbs.

    Now, on another hand, guess what these "controllers," secret sects/societies and secret fraternities/sororities//brotherhoods/sisterhoods are under the control of?

    Especially when they obviously are dramatizing their R6 bank/implanted unconscious mind/"their" mind... the whole thing becomes fairly simple doesn't it?

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    These are not just symbols and sigils. They are living beings that exist as symbols and sigils in our reality. This is important to remember.

    Creating through the mind becomes a silly game. When you create through the mind, you create through duality. Its a be careful what you wish for kind of thing. You will get the very thing you have created but you will also experience the opposite but equal experience. There is no way around this, this is just how the reality is that we are in. An example of this would be you create a sigil to obtain a large amount of money. A few months down the road you receive a large lump sum of money but you find out that it was an inheritance and your grandmother died. Its these type of experiences that will make you go mad. You got what you wanted but was it worth losing your grandmother? The what if's will become overwhelming and will eat you alive if you have any kind of soul and can feel empathy. Hence the reason the ones that employ these powers seem to lack a sense of empathy.

    Another good example of this is robert anton wilson. He was told on the other side that his son was going to die. He did all these rituals in order to stop the death of his son. His son lived but his daughter was beaten to death in a robbery at a store soon after. This is what I mean about equal but opposite energy coming back when you create within the mind.

    If you can create in the heart, this is completely different. Anything that is created in the heart is manifest and created. There is no duality to it, its a mere creation. You can create full on realities/universes here. But the catch here is this; I promise you that if you can move from your mind to your heart to create, you will no longer have the desire to create any of the things you wanted to create in the mind. Things like power, love, wealth, prestige, magic abilities, ect. All of these fall to the way side when your fulcrum is in the heart and not the mind.

    This is why no magic should be done without being in full contact with you HGA(holy guardian angel), I personally refer to it as my higher self. This is a version of you that exists outside of space and time and has experienced all of your timelines. It knows how to best navigate you through these in order to experience certain things and also to avoid others. Unless you have direct confirmation and contact with the higher self, you should NEVER EVER try to create or change anything. I promise it will only lead to misery and dispear. I can also promise you that the ones using these powers are not happy and at peace.

    You can claim that you are not a magician, but I disagree. A magician is what you are by birth. It is what the human being is. It really comes down to just the simple realization that you need to be in complete control of your will. Those that master the will are the masters of the self. An Italian is still an Italian even if he lives in spain, no? You are and always were a magician.

    The only way to really understand and learn this, is to practice it. Your spirituality, your evolution, is a path of initiation. I don't mean that in any kind of secret society sense but in the true sense of the word. These understandings and realizations wont come from reading a book or a forum, they come through initiation. From walking the walk. I knew we were one my whole life, I heard the idea and it just felt right. But when I experienced that oneness via initiation and experience, it was two different things all together. I could have told everyone that we were all one until I was blue in the face, but until I experienced that, I truly had no idea. I realized that the knowledge and experience of are two completely different things all together.

    If you want to start on this path, every effort should be made to reconnect with your higher self. All rituals should be stopped unless pertaining to this outcome. Don't be afraid because those running the world used this power for the wrong reason. Our brain is trained to think of the elites or people like Aleistor Crowley when we hear the word magician. Our brain hardly ever equates the word magician to that of Jesus the Christ or Buddha. Funny eh?
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    Quote Posted by dpwishy (here)
    I don't post much here, I have been a lurker for years.
    I am a shaman and light worker,
    a student of the occult for a decade.

    These symbols are sigils.
    They are magical talisman.
    It doesnt matter if you know the meaning or not,
    your attention on it is all they need.
    All you need to do is look at it and you did what they wanted.

    Here is the secret that only high magicians know.
    These sigils are supposed to be destroyed once created and charged.
    But you see, these people were very cocky.
    They did not think about the internet hundreds of years ago,
    they never thought a population could have access to knowledge like them.
    In that belief, they kept the sigils in plain sight.

    They were not stupid, there is a reason for it.
    The more attention or energy placed upon the sigil,
    the more it is charged with the intent of the reason it was created.
    If you were under the impression that the public would never know your knowledge,
    then it would be in your best interest to put the sigils on something that gets seen alot.
    Hence the reason it is on your money.
    There is not a single thing in existence that is seen or used more by the population.

    I will even claim thats the reason they have been so successful is because of these sigils,
    how they were charged and deployed. They were very smart about it.
    But ironically the thing that gave them their power,
    is the very thing that is going to destroy them.
    When you create a sigil and charge it it must be destroyed,
    this stops other magicians from using it as a weapon against you.
    With the proper know how all that energy you charged can be manipulated against you.
    When the population wakes up enough to understand and use this,
    these symbols will be their down fall.

    I can't go into this to much more without complete disregard for the law of free will.
    That is why black magic, eventually, is discovered to be a waste of time.

    White magic is worse because the white magician falsely believes he knows what's best for others (thus self deceptive as well as using stealth tactics on others).

    When one leaves (Edited...) mind derived intentional magic, and then from that point only intends what comes forth comes from the open, fearless heart, then one becomes truly good for us all.

    But what do I know about any of this? Not a damn thing... nada.
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    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    "Words may have been invented just to avoid knowledge of these things. Ya never know."

    bumping this statement from noprophet, my intention coming here.
    [also do say more, or should i follow those links for the approximation,,,, to be delegated for later then]
    also the intuition that the ready made symbols, the ones that we are just supposed to see and they have an effect,
    might mechanistically be as such:
    ...if say we divide the total consciousness to its charkra constituent parts,
    then the symbols you just 'see with a durr expression', might have to it a configured charkra (?if say they could direct there preintent to that, think already confirmed here) of one of the parts.
    ...no problem, it effects what it does,,,, we buy more

    Of your post here dpwishy, thank-you very greatly and questions!
    (looking down the alley i notice many holes i might experience through foolishness, when i've been foolish enough in my life till this far, scoring some mistakes to previous to incarnational momentum. I guess the intrinsic to holding in and not moving to the left and right were truer than i thought)
    The Thought of Norea: They heard, (and) they received - into - place forever...in order that - might rest in the ineffable Epinoia, in order that - might inherit the first mind which - had received, & that - might rest in the divine Autogenes, and that - too might generate -self, just as - also has inherited the living Logos, & that - might be joined to all of the Imperishable Ones, and speak with the mind of the Father

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    seeing post 34,
    i guess i should add..

    something is in movement.

    add to it.
    and u stop all movement,

    add to it just right, and what you have scored is what u seeked YOUR OWN movement just greater

    (the safest thing on this plain is NO-INTENT, NO-CHANGE effected on this plane........can't be right can it? though to think about later more thoroughly)

    maybe we in a cluster of meme's
    score any singular in the cluster as wrong, and one would drag the whole cluster down,
    wrong,
    for now, more distance and thought needed. The approximate conclusion of justoneman of 'no magicianal state', is right...(,,i'm magicianing now,..I'd like my nade in toffee flavour)
    though truely, the last statement of dpwishy is very appealing to me, THE MASTERS as MAGI, ..crowley was more of someone like me, likely to end up as a bum, ..kidding
    though once the revelation i got when introduced to the Tarot magician1 card, was that of a manifestor of reality (and before that i despised all configurations of the tarot as hangman was truelly the Only One, observer, what else,... but magician as by golden dawn implica t tions tors is that of one transmuting 4elements to use.cool)
    {hey jom, your jacobs ladder finished in book form yet?}
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    Quote If you can create in the heart, this is completely different. Anything that is created in the heart is manifest and created. There is no duality to it, its a mere creation. You can create full on realities/universes here. But the catch here is this; I promise you that if you can move from your mind to your heart to create, you will no longer have the desire to create any of the things you wanted to create in the mind. Things like power, love, wealth, prestige, magic abilities, ect. All of these fall to the way side when your fulcrum is in the heart and not the mind.
    I had a dream where I was at work, in nature, and I said to my colleague, when I connect to my heart and I can see all - there is a snake under that log- he checks, there is - there is a small mammal asleep behind that tussock of grass - he checks, there is. He says, if you can see everything, why don't you get the winning lotto numbers? I laugh, and tell him those things are really of no importance.

    I have spoken here before about the heart being the meeting place within the body between all that is above, and all that is below, and about the human heart being the Grail. It is where we expereince "unity", as opposed to the hemisherical duality of the mind. I also speak of the true trinity of masculine/feminine/magic. We think we perform magic? Most likely we do not - we ride on the coat tails of the essence that ties our corporeality to all that is beyond time and space, and turn this to our own desired end. The real magic is to truly and purely love, and to be a beacon and transmitter of love and unity in the world, because this is the very nature of magic.

    I will never tire of repeating my own personal maxim - Magic is the intelligence of Love in action.

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    Yes Music i agree however those who are not as spiritual who may take the short cuts as these societies do , will have access to ancient scripts as these civilisations all document their symbology more so than written text. The symbology is a sort of exclusive alphabet. Without some sort of code it would take someone a life time of meditation to work it all out.

    Reiki uses symbols of which without proper guidance would be difficult to use.

    On the other hand in my many meditations i have seen certain symbols but not many. The use of a phychosonnetic bridge is all one needs. Then when connected to the being or group of choice one can go in and ask of them the desired information.

    Recently i went into a meditation asking for knowledge. In this i was taken to a recod bank , during my flight i felt slightly nausious because of the distance i travelled , then we went down into a bank of etheric records where the bank of knowledge was shown to me . With this knowledge came a series of warnings what would happen to me if i were to use this knowledge and the associated organisations who would oppose me , then they took the entire idea and disposed of it stating it was not to my benefit to persue. In the grat library there were many symbols engraved on the storage banks. These are there for their record keepers to read.

    Its an exclusive language of which i was made to forget. I know i saw them but after our meeting a group came to erase certain parts of the journey and experience. and the most amazing thing was i was trying to remmber the symbols but they vanished before my eye and i knew what was happening while it was and it was amazing to say the least. Their amazing talent to alow me to know it was being taken in real time and it went ...

    So symbology is actually imo the language of the high intelligentcia , like chinese or japanese charachters ( which are ancient symbology ) one charachter represents quite a few things. and can combine to create other things. I dont pretend to know much about the oriental languages however a lot of symbology i have seen and allowed to remember looked a lot like the ones in this document.

    You will greatly enjoyreading this text and perhaps should save a copy ; 0 )

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/38485...-h/38485-h.htm


    most of the symbology containesd i have seen at one stage or another

    I do crecall once seeing the philisophers stone .. it was an un remarkable looking rock in the middle of nowhere ,indeed unless you were looking for it would miss it .. however upon it was an inscription thaty when read changed everything in my life , understanding and meaning, so powerful were these words that i was fearful of knowing them . Great responsability MUST come with being shown such a thing..


    I recall seeing the Condor and tree of life in South america when i was meditating it was a beautiful morning after a cup of coco tea ( wow i love coco tea ; O )

    The Snake is an ancient symbol of Knowledge , most times is mistaken for evil or sin .. this is not true. The Snakes making their way around the spinal colum is the path of knowledge within our own body .. the kundalini fire . This has been used as a symbol for our medical representatives and is a huge misuse of this symbol. The negative karma they invest in by using such an ancient symbol and calling them selves doctors is immesurable. I pray for them as they are truly representing evil by having full knowledge of their sins.

    Many symbols can be seen everywhere but without proper meditation and training its best to just observe them rather than use them.

    Naniu
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    I see symbols as signposts, or as, well, "symbols", representative of something else, and their power derives from the thing they represent, not from themselves. I could write the words F... you (not too you! just an example), and these are just strokes of pen on paper. Their power comes from the association the intended taget will make of what might as well be chicken scratchings in the sand for all the power they have.

    Nothing has the power to harm me, because despite all my faults that stem from my choice to incarnate in this imperfect reality, I recognise that I am purely love. I do good in my life everyday, I help people, I care, I try to make a difference for the greater common good. Sure, sometimes I anger, sometimes I snipe, sometimes ego grabs a hold, but when I fall from grace I will do my mea culpa to clear my energy field of attractors that serve to disempower. Apology for wrong doing is a real tool of personal empowerment, but only if it is pure and not accompanied by guilt or agenda.

    Interesting you mention snakes and the philosophers stone, the heart, as well as being the Grail for me is also the alchemical retort, and also the never ending tale of snake swallowing tail. If you are interested in kundalini, this is also a representation of masc/fem/magic, have you tried ida/pingala breathing? I wrote some stuff on that in the natural teleportation thread as it relates to the concept of the Merkaba. My views on that are not the usual ones though we find on the net, but they are mine.

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    Quote Posted by A.D. (here)
    per dpwishy's comment that we are all magicians... most people don't realize the magic they cast every day.

    In fact we are using magic right now in the forum through spell-ing words.

    I could cast a spell on some one in this thread to make them feel bad and angered or make them feel all warm and fuzzy. All i have to do is string together a few magical symbols called letters and form them into words and sentences... if I want someone to feel bad I can respond to their post calling them a know nothing moron... if I want to cast a spell of warmth I can respond to someone's post telling them they are quite wise and profound.

    math is magic. Look at a complex mathematical formula it's a bunch of symbols put together to explain a physical reality.


    Take an atom bomb... someone creates a formula ("spell") for how the physics will work and writes it out in symbol and says based on these symbols you could use this formula to blow up a city.
    Learning to talk was the game changer,
    we have been magicians since.

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