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    Victims Of Boston Martial Law Speak Out


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    Boston Bombing Suspect’s Aunt: Local Mosque Refuses To Bury Tamerlan Tsarnaev

    Quote According to NBC News, deceased Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev‘s aunt claimed that a local mosque has refused to hold a funeral or bury her nephew in light of what he and his younger brother have done.

    Upon releasing Tsarnaev’s body to his family members living in the United States, a local mosque in the Boston area reportedly refused burial and funeral services when approached by the suspected bombers’ uncle. The aunt, Patimat Suleimanova, indicated to NBC News that it was a mosque the family has attended in the past...
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    Easy to see where this is going.

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    Exclusive: Victims Of Boston Bombing Police State Lockdown Speak Out




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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    [...[
    I don't have any video software to go through it frame by frame though.

    [...]
    I don't know about iPads, etc. but if you are using a regular keyboard, you first pause the video and then use the right/left arrows to go frame by frame. Even if you don/t have any processing software, I think you can still perform "screen captures" (Ctrl + Print Screen) and view those captures at your leisure. VLC is a free software that can also do that.

    That should get you to see that his right hand sometime shows all five fingers and other times only three depending on the lighting/shadow or shutter speed.

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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Related..............'The Totalitarian Tip Toe' .......Problem Reaction Solution !!



    US Hatched Terror Plots

    Saturday, 04 May 2013 08:52
    Posted by David Icke





    'Terrorists "R" us. Washington bears full responsibility. Numerous schemes are
    planned. Some are alleged and foiled. Others involve violent plots. Media
    scoundrels convict innocent people in the court of public opinion.

    Later they're wrongfully accused and prosecuted. Juries are intimidated to convict.
    Imprisonment follows. Culprits remain free. One scheme leads to others. Numerous
    political prisoners fill America's gulag.'


    Even The New York Times was candid. At least party so. Most often it's part of the
    guilt by accusation chorus. On April 28, 2012, it headlined "Terrorist Plots, Hatched
    by the FBI," saying:

    "THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent
    years — or so it has seemed."

    Dozens were foiled just in time.

    Among others, they include:


    a fake shoe bomber;
    fake underwear bomber;
    fake Times Square bomber;
    an earlier one there;
    fake shampoo bombers;
    fake Al Qaeda woman planning fake mass casualty attacks on New York landmarks;
    fake Oregon bomber;
    fake armed forces recruiting station bomber;
    fake synagogue bombers;
    fake Chicago Sears Tower bombers;
    fake FBI and other building bombers;
    fake National Guard, Fort Dix and Quantico marine base attackers;
    fake 9/11 bombers;
    fake Boston bombers; and
    numerous others.


    Read more: US Hatched Terror Plots

    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/8...d-terror-plots

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    The children may have been told this was a drill while trying to evacuate
    but still.....

    Sandy Hook 3rd Grader Louis 'Having a DRILL'

    Saturday, 04 May 2013 08:38
    Posted by David Icke




    Published on 4 Feb 2013


    Dr. Oz Interview of Sandy Hook Elementary student. The host discloses that the
    kids told him beforehand what they wanted him to ask, in order to avoid traumatic
    questioning and - I would surmise - would permit the kids to be thoroughly
    prepared and confident of their answer. Sounds as if he tells him they were having
    a DRILL. You be the judge.





    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/8...having-a-drill

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    David has been pointing out 'The Totalitarian Tip Toe' for decacades and it
    has happened many times around the world over history .....



    America Is Embracing The Secret Police Culture Of The Nazis
    Saturday, 04 May 2013 09:21

    Posted by David Icke



    'Why do so many Americans want us to become more like Nazi Germany? When I
    was growing up, I was taught that Nazi Germany was the antithesis of everything
    that America stood for. I truly believed that we were "the land of the free" and that
    we were a bright, shining example for the rest of the world. Unfortunately, over the
    past couple of decades America has been eagerly embracing the secret police
    culture of the Nazis. In a desperate attempt to feel "safe", we have decided to
    become much more like our arch-enemies of the past. In fact, in many ways we
    have already surpassed them.'

    Read more: America Is Embracing The Secret Police Culture Of The Nazis

    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/8...e-of-the-nazis

    ===================================================

    Related.........



    Do Americans approve of the surveillance state?




    Published on 3 May 2013


    According to a new poll by The New York Times and CBS, 78 percent of Americans
    are okay with surveillance cameras. The polls indicated that 9 out of 10 citizens feel
    terrorism is a risk everyone must be willing to live with and cameras can help
    thwart any potential plots, but how accurate is this sentiment? We hit the streets of
    Washington, DC to find out who's willing to sacrifice privacy for security in a post
    9/11-society.

    Find RT America in your area: http://rt.com/where-to-watch/
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    Quote Peter Stefan revealed Tsarnaev's death certificate, showing gunshots and blunt trauma as the causes of death.
    Was he captured beaten and shot ?

    Or run over by his brother then shot !!





    4 May 2013 Last updated at 09:44

    Burial wrangle for Boston suspect Tamerlan TsarnaevPeter Stefan sits in his funeral
    home in Worcester, Massachusetts, 3 May Peter Stefan: "I keep bringing up the
    point of Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh or Ted Bundy. Somebody had to do
    those, too."


    The search is on for a cemetery to bury Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan
    Tsarnaev as protesters picket the funeral home holding his body.The director of the
    funeral home in Worcester, Massachusetts, likened the task to burying notorious
    mass murderers from recent US history.Peter Stefan revealed Tsarnaev's death
    certificate, showing gunshots and blunt trauma as the causes of death.

    Tsarnaev's surviving brother Dzhokhar is under arrest for the bombing.

    The brothers are accused of planting two bombs near the finishing-line of the
    Boston Marathon on 15 April. Three people were killed and more than 260 injured
    in an attack which shocked America.

    They are also suspected of later shooting dead one policeman and injuring another.

    Dzhokhar, 19, was shot and injured during the police manhunt and remains in a
    prison hospital. He faces a possible death sentence if convicted.Three of his college
    friends have been arrested on suspicion of obstructing police inquiries after the bomb attack.

    'Bundy, McVeigh'

    Relatives of ex-boxer Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, have been making arrangements to
    bury his body.Mr Stefan received the body after it was released by the
    Massachusetts state medical examiner on Thursday.

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev (L), 26, and his brother Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19 Tamerlan
    Tsarnaev (L) died after a police shootout, while Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (R) is in
    custody Protesters had picketed a North Attleborough funeral home to which it was
    brought initially, after which Mr Stefan's business received it, in the face of a new demonstration.

    "Everyone deserves a burial," Mr Stefan told Reuters news agency by telephone.

    "It doesn't matter who it is. I can't pick and choose."

    Speaking to AP news agency, Mr Stefan said: "My problem here is trying to find a
    gravesite. A lot of people don't want to do it. They don't want to be involved with
    this." Arguing that everyone deserved a dignified burial, he added: "I keep bringing
    up the point of Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh or Ted Bundy. Somebody had
    to do those, too."

    Wife declines

    According to the death certificate, Tamerlan Tsarnaev died at 01:35 on 19 April
    from "gunshot wounds of torso and extremities" as well as blunt trauma to the
    head and torso.Protesters outside the funeral home in Worcester, Massachusetts, 3
    May Dozens of protesters rallied near Mr Stefan's funeral home on Friday
    After being hit in a shoot-out with police, he was reportedly run over on the ground
    by his younger brother as he escaped from the scene in a car.

    No motive has yet been established for the bombing.

    The family are ethnic Chechen Muslims from Russia who had been living in the US
    for about a decade, and Tamerlan was drawn to radical Islam. His wife, Katherine
    Russell, declined to pick up his body from the medical examiner's office, allowing
    his relatives to claim the remains instead and arrange for a funeral.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22409920
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    Tavistock Ideology Explains False Flags - Neil Sanders



    Published on 3 May 2013


    A very good education on an obviously powerful institution in our midst - influencing events all around us.
    Apologies for the poor video quality.

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    False Flags and The Manufacture of Consent - Neil Sanders



    Published on 10 Feb 2013


    Neil takes us through the methodology used in pulling off these False Flags
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    Exclusive: Victims Of Boston Bombing Police State Lockdown Speak Out



    This video that you posted Paula is really really scary and sad. They should run this at least once a day in every channel in US....
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    Quote Posted by Paula (here)
    Exclusive: Victims Of Boston Bombing Police State Lockdown Speak Out



    This video that you posted Paula is really really scary and sad. They should run this at least once a day in every channel in US....
    Hi InCiDeR,

    What got me was how helmet guys wouldn't let the elder people put on their shoes, even the ones who needed assistance to even walk. How about those bullets all over the place? Seems like target practice would benefit them rather than bully the old ones. Unless it was intended as part of the psych job. Which as you point out, it'll make for good advertising for “We the People". I was surprised the community people spoke freely, and how there's a difference between hometown police and helmet guys.

    I had my oil changed earlier this week. The owner, another customer and myself were talking about civil liberties, forced lockdown, militarized police, tanks, door-to-door searches without warrant, etc. Or I should say I? I left disheartened because they had nothing but praises for helmet guys. Their point was the two young men could have dropped bombs all along the way, killing many. I found myself asking them if they were pulling my leg. Twice. Sadly, they weren't.

    I live about 75 miles from Boston. It's business as usual around here, so this video is timely for me. Though, I won't hold my breath for the media to run it.
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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Quote Posted by Paula (here)
    ...

    Hi InCiDeR,

    What got me was how helmet guys wouldn't let the elder people put on their shoes, even the ones who needed assistance to even walk. How about those bullets all over the place? Seems like target practice would benefit them rather than bully the old ones. Unless it was intended as part of the psych job. Which as you point out, it'll make for good advertising for “We the People". I was surprised the community people spoke freely, and how there's a difference between hometown police and helmet guys.

    I had my oil changed earlier this week. The owner, another customer and myself were talking about civil liberties, forced lockdown, militarized police, tanks, door-to-door searches without warrant, etc. Or I should say I? I left disheartened because they had nothing but praises for helmet guys. Their point was the two young men could have dropped bombs all along the way, killing many. I found myself asking them if they were pulling my leg. Twice. Sadly, they weren't. So this video is timely for me.
    Quoted for truth. Thank you Paula.

    It amazes me and saddens me that the majority of the people seems to almost worship the helmet guys. I saw another video the other day how the neighbours stood in the street celebrating, singing and praising the police force that caught the 19 year old kid. What about the collateral damage, civilians could actually have died in their own home when the police shooting wild like that.

    Jeeez, what happened, how can they not see? All this for a "kid"? Now some of the churches and mosques considering not even to bury the older brother. I got tears in my eyes when I heard about the elder ones that weren't allowed to put on their shoes...

    I don't know what to say, I am speechless. This are sad days for humanity, because I believe this will escalate, not only in the USA but worldwide. What shall we do? People are sleeping so hard so I don't know anymore if they ever will wake up. Today I strive to keep my faith up, even of a part of me wants go give up... but where would that leave me?!
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    Quote Posted by InCiDeR (here)
    Quote Posted by Paula (here)
    ...

    Hi InCiDeR,

    What got me was how helmet guys wouldn't let the elder people put on their shoes, even the ones who needed assistance to even walk. How about those bullets all over the place? Seems like target practice would benefit them rather than bully the old ones. Unless it was intended as part of the psych job. Which as you point out, it'll make for good advertising for “We the People". I was surprised the community people spoke freely, and how there's a difference between hometown police and helmet guys.

    I had my oil changed earlier this week. The owner, another customer and myself were talking about civil liberties, forced lockdown, militarized police, tanks, door-to-door searches without warrant, etc. Or I should say I? I left disheartened because they had nothing but praises for helmet guys. Their point was the two young men could have dropped bombs all along the way, killing many. I found myself asking them if they were pulling my leg. Twice. Sadly, they weren't. So this video is timely for me.
    Quoted for truth. Thank you Paula.

    It amazes me and saddens me that the majority of the people seems to almost worship the helmet guys. I saw another video the other day how the neighbours stood in the street celebrating, singing and praising the police force that caught the 19 year old kid. What about the collateral damage, civilians could actually have died in their own home when the police shooting wild like that.

    Jeeez, what happened, how can they not see? All this for a "kid"? Now some of the churches and mosques considering not even to bury the older brother. I got tears in my eyes when I heard about the elder ones that weren't allowed to put on their shoes...

    I don't know what to say, I am speechless. This is a sad day for humanity, because I believe this will escalate, not only in the USA but worldwide. What shall we do? People are sleeping so hard so I don't know anymore if they ever will wake up. Today I strive to keep my faith up, even of a part of me wants go give up... but where would that leave me?!
    Hi InCiDeR,

    Quote I saw another video the other day how the neighbours stood in the street celebrating, singing and praising the police force that caught the 19 year old kid.
    My heart sank when I saw that video and stopped watching them for awhile. I don’t usually talk about the current state of affairs for the obvious reason...sleepwalkers. So when I brought it up with the owner and the other, my hope was to reverse my perceptions of humanity as a whole. It only served to reinforce what I experience with friends and family.

    Quote What shall we do?
    For me, I have no control over asteroids, Earth changes, or others, only myself. It’s assisted me in tapping the within dimensions which serves to discover the natural beauty within and without. The most recent example is while doing Tai Chi an Eagle was close enough to where I could see her white under feathers, and huge wing span without my far away glasses. Awesome power hidden in grace and agility in the She-Eagle. (as above, so below, we are That)

    Lots of synchronicities these days to where even when I toss out a question, it’s answered within hours or minutes. Whereas, it use to be weeks or days. That's one example of what the dark ones do not want us to discover. Mighty Co-creators.

    Beyond the preparations like food, water, medicines, financial, etc. my inner knowing is to discover the greater mind, body and spirit that we are already. I’ll know what steps to take next. It’s always happened that way. Each of those decision and actions has only brought out the greater from within. This time is no different.

    Light (it's within) AND is for whomever is open to receive.

    Hearts,
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    [...[
    I don't have any video software to go through it frame by frame though.

    [...]
    I don't know about iPads, etc. but if you are using a regular keyboard, you first pause the video and then use the right/left arrows to go frame by frame. Even if you don/t have any processing software, I think you can still perform "screen captures" (Ctrl + Print Screen) and view those captures at your leisure. VLC is a free software that can also do that.

    That should get you to see that his right hand sometime shows all five fingers and other times only three depending on the lighting/shadow or shutter speed.
    With those instructions applied to the youtube video you linked to in post 799, the video skips forward at 5 second intervals with each click of the arrow right button. Holding down alt, control or the command key whilst holding down the arrow key makes no difference (those keys often allow micro-adjustments of certain parameters within various DAWs which I'm familiar with).

    VLC performs no action when either of the arrow keys are pressed. It does, however, move the video backwards or forwards if alt and command are held down simultaneously with either of the arrow keys............by 10 second increments. (VLC 2.0.5 / OS X Lion / MB Pro)

    Ironically the youtube video you linked to in post 799 has already been slowed down to approx' 2 frames/second by, I guess, the uploader/creator of the video and at no point are five fingers on the left hand visible, at least to my eyes. Are we actually talking about the same video? If so, could you screen capture the appropriate frames? Cheers.

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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

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    With those instructions applied to the youtube video you linked to in post 799, the video skips forward at 5 second intervals with each click of the arrow right button. Holding down alt, control or the command key whilst holding down the arrow key makes no difference (those keys often allow micro-adjustments of certain parameters within various DAWs which I'm familiar with).

    VLC performs no action when either of the arrow keys are pressed. It does, however, move the video backwards or forwards if alt and command are held down simultaneously with either of the arrow keys............by 10 second increments. (VLC 2.0.5 / OS X Lion / MB Pro)

    Ironically the youtube video you linked to in post 799 has already been slowed down to approx' 2 frames/second by, I guess, the uploader/creator of the video and at no point are five fingers on the left hand visible, at least to my eyes. Are we actually talking about the same video? If so, could you screen capture the appropriate frames? Cheers.
    VLC has a feature "Frame by frame" which you can extract from "Tools" -> "Customize interface" and set it on your toolbar. Although it still has bugs, it works most of the time.





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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    [...]

    With those instructions applied to the youtube video you linked to in post 799, the video skips forward at 5 second intervals with each click of the arrow right button. Holding down alt, control or the command key whilst holding down the arrow key makes no difference (those keys often allow micro-adjustments of certain parameters within various DAWs which I'm familiar with).

    VLC performs no action when either of the arrow keys are pressed. It does, however, move the video backwards or forwards if alt and command are held down simultaneously with either of the arrow keys............by 10 second increments. (VLC 2.0.5 / OS X Lion / MB Pro)

    Ironically the youtube video you linked to in post 799 has already been slowed down to approx' 2 frames/second by, I guess, the uploader/creator of the video and at no point are five fingers on the left hand visible, at least to my eyes. Are we actually talking about the same video? If so, could you screen capture the appropriate frames? Cheers.
    VLC has a feature "Frame by frame" which you can extract from "Tools" -> "Customize interface" and set it on your toolbar. Although it still has bugs, it works most of the time.




    Thanks Amzer, it looks as if we've finally got to the bottom of this thanks to your picture posts. Namely the fact that that is his right hand, not his left. Vogt was missing his left pinky.

    Re: VLC I guess we must be on different OS's 'cos I don't have "the frame by frame" option. Nor do I have "tools", rather I have "preferences" and within them, under the hotkeys tab, there is a "next frame" hotkey which, in version 2.0.5 running on OS X Lion (10.7) is the letter "E". So I do have that function but under a different guise.
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    Those who have suspected that some or most of the injuries at the first Boston marathon explosion were faked, with actors, make up, and photoshop may enjoy the analysis of these injuries: Video Analysis: Boston Marathon Bombing Injuries (Posted May 2, 2013 by Sam Feeterson to Memory Hole Blog).

    It just looks at the first explosion (not the second one down the street a half minute later), and mostly just looks at the first minute or two after the explosion. It makes a good case for the use of actors, make up and photoshop.
    Now the same website, memoryholeblog.com, has some interesting observations regarding the second explosion: Anomalies Emerge in Photos of Second Bomb Site.
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    I don’t know if anyone has picked up on the mailbox. I’ve been following one detail: the slab under the mailbox. In some photos it’s blurred out or blocked. No raised cement slab under the first photo. I'm suspicious because you can never get a clear 'after' photo of that one detail.





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    Those who have suspected that some or most of the injuries at the first Boston marathon explosion were faked, with actors, make up, and photoshop may enjoy the analysis of these injuries: Video Analysis: Boston Marathon Bombing Injuries (Posted May 2, 2013 by Sam Feeterson to Memory Hole Blog).

    It just looks at the first explosion (not the second one down the street a half minute later), and mostly just looks at the first minute or two after the explosion. It makes a good case for the use of actors, make up and photoshop.
    Now the same website, memoryholeblog.com, has some interesting observations regarding the second explosion: Anomalies Emerge in Photos of Second Bomb Site.
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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    First, this picture is not of the blast site #2:


    It is missing the raised concrete slab as noted by Paula, as well as the restaurants' terraces and the parking limit/Tow Zone sign/pole.








    The bag shown on this picture is not the one containing the bomb:




    This one is a more likely candidate:


    Late Richard Martin circled in blue.

    Glass doors and windows also get broken with people getting pushed into them which is also what I suspect happened to the fence that got wrapped around the mail box, the push being caused by the blast pressure wave on the people between the bomb and the fence.

    Pressure cooker bombs aren't made to pierce armored vehicles (i.e. mail box) but to inflict maximum injuries and maims (at feet level).
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    Pressure cooker bombs aren't made to pierce armored vehicles (i.e. mail box)...
    Are US mail boxes similar to armored vehicles?
    Are they that sturdy?

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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Hey did you guys see this video? It's relatively new...I didn't look on any other threads, but didn't see it here. Check this out, it appears a runner is throwing something to another runner right when the bomb goes off. Could this have been a detonator?


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