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    From: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05...ton-on-public/



    Homeland Security Blames Boston on Public



    First Official Post Bombing Retrospectives Lead with the Outrageous Claim that the Public Should do More to Report Threats

    … by Jim W. Dean, VT Editor … with Press TV

    - First Published Monday, May 6th 2013 -


    Homeland Security admits Boston security failure


    Yes, DHS wants us to turn people in before they do something. How much should we pay them for that idea…$1 billion?


    That’s right folks. They do admit it, but with a twist. They admit that the public must do more to inform them of potential threats so they can then prevent future attacks.

    You just can’t make this stuff up… but they surely can, and with no embarrassment either.

    I know this seems hard to believe so I am going to jump into the quotes earlier than I usually do in a commentary.

    We have Mr. John Cohen, principal deputy counter-terrorism coordinator at the Dept of Homeland Security (DHS), who by the way was once the Homeland Security adviser to Governor Mitt Romney.
    “How do we take the knowledge that we have acquired looking at these [Boston] events… so that communities are better able to recognize an emerging threat, irrespective of the motivation, and prevent the threat from materializing?”
    I want to lay out the cover and deception that I described in previous articles always accompanies false flag attacks and wrap the rope around the necks of these people real tight. I will spring the trap door under them in the second half.

    Boston, of course, has been the launching pad for the Boston bombing cover and deception. They are testing it out there first, and depending on the response (never much from a comatose public), they will rule it out nationally.


    Michael Chertoff – who has made a lot of money off the War on Terror

    There will NOT be a push by Homeland Security to analyze, discover, punish and fix, for example, the penetration of DHS by Israeli espionage which was wired in by Michael Chertoff.

    He was put in after ex-New York City Giuliani’s bag man/driver, former police chief of the New York City, got caught taking payoffs which nixed his being put in as a puppet DHS director.

    Bernie Kerik was probably the most unqualified DHS person in the country. But he was an experienced political fanny kisser, so he had been initially selected by the Bush gang of hoodlums as the perfect guy.

    I remember they sent him to Iraq on a photo op tour where he was supposed to be teaching the Iraqi police how to do their job over there, like he could possibly know. Kerik became a laughing stock while he was there.

    Here is the DHS key pitch… where with more training, could local community leaders have done a better job by alerting DHS. Obama is already in the wings, urging more community involvement. That is being set up as the ‘good cop’. The flip side of the coin, the ‘bad cop’, is more loss of our civil liberties through more invasive surveillance than is already upon us.

    But that in itself is a cover and deception. They have already taken away our civil liberties and are planning to take more. The timing seems to revolve around getting enough terror attacks staged to fuel demands for more security. We have been here before.
    As I have written in previous Press TV articles on Intel analysis you can often learn more by what is not said, than by what is. What is missing here is even a whiff that the Boston Marathon bombing was a huge security failure by letting two kettle bombs be walked right into the finish line area.

    No one is officially asking what the Craft guys were doing, or not doing. It looks like they have better equipment than we do.

    The DHS people seemed to not want their paychecks to bounce, but to keep on flowing with no one held accountable for the disaster.

    We already have a national security fraud perpetrated on us by DHS when they never located any terrorist sleeper networks after 9-11.

    The 5,000 or so suspects rounded up were released or deported on immigration or visa violations. They extended his courtesy even to the Israelis caught in New York City on 9-11.

    Later the FBI had to justify its counter-terrorism budget with a string of scandalous sting operations where they hired a bunch of ex-cons and criminals to dupe patsies for them. Our judicial system added to the shame of it all by putting its stamp of approval on it all.

    Meanwhile, back at the Fusion Center ranch, the word was out that with no foreign terrorists coming in that their jobs might be on the line if they did not find some new threats. So the DHS PR people brought domestic terrorism front and center as the new tool for government parasites to bilk the taxpayers out of more wasted security money.

    This even included adding our War on Terror veterans as closet domestic terrorists. Boston did not escape this frenzy to find new threats so all the cops could stay in line to get their camo and special tactics team outfits. Ayanna Pressley, councilor-at-large of the Boston City Council tells us:
    “…Last fall, the Massachusetts ACLU obtained, through a suit against the Boston Police Department, intelligence reports that designated peace activists as extremists.”
    While Homeland Security was looking for potential dangers, gangs continued to rule areas of America’s cities. Israeli espionage is in its Golden Age now, having infiltrated and compromised not only our Congress and Justice Department but Homeland Security with Israeli contractors and their ‘friends’ knitted into the whole fabric. And yes, they are effectively not prosecutable.

    But it gets worse. When those in their own ranks try to bring attention to huge security holes in their operations the DHS’s full resources are put upon them, wasting more taxpayer money chasing bogus ‘domestic’ security threats.


    Julia Davis reported a Homeland Security failure to the FBI and was designated a domestic terrorist, at one point having 54 investigations going against her.

    The Obama administration has done nothing about the story I am about to tell you, and our ‘free press’ has suppressed it. Even the famous investigative journalism show, 60 Minutes, never aired their interview with DHS officer/supervisor for Customs and Border Protection, Julia Davis, back in 2004.

    Briefly, Ms. Davis got intelligence that 23 foreign visitors from terrorist watch list countries were going to be passing through one of our southern border crossing points when there was Intel chatter about a Fourth of July attack. The average at the time was only 5 to 10 of these entries a month.

    When she passed the word up her chain of command she was told not to worry about it. She later found out that Border Intel authorities responsible for debriefing such people were attending a July 4th barbecue… taking the day off.

    So being the good soldier that she was and honoring the oath of office that she took, she informed the FBI so someone would know that these people were all going to be passed through with no special interviews. She did not go outside the chain of command. She did her job.

    DHS subsequently came down on her like a ton of bricks. To circumvent all of her constitutional rights they simply classified her as a ‘domestic terrorist’. That’s right folks, that’s exactly what they did, which meant DHS could do just about anything they wanted to her without needing to get warrants.

    At the peak of the harassment she endured, DHS had 54 investigations ongoing at God only knows the cost to the taxpayers. Her home was raided with a Black Hawk helicopter and 27-man SWAT team, a larger force than that used on the bin Laden compound in Pakistan. She was arrested twice, imprisoned, and then completely cleared of any wrong doing.
    In the lawsuit that followed, when DHS was asked why they had labeled her a domestic terrorist, they answered that she had made derogatory statements about DHS. That was it. I can’t think of a better silver bullet example of a government organization completely out of control and exceeding its authority.
    Most of America knows nothing about Julia Davis, and that included me until a few days ago. She has a film coming out soon, so we will be hearing more. But I shared her incredible story with you as a mirror for this post Boston bombing spin we are now getting.

    There will be no mention of an investigation of the obvious security failures at Boston, how they were built into the system. We know now what is coming… the community needs to do a better job, doing DHS’s job actually, because it seems it has a lot of top people out chasing Julia Davis type people for doing theirs.

    We have some serious problems going on within DHS. That nothing is being done about the systemic ones is a clear indication that they have political protection that has covered them. There is a growing split in the intelligence community where one side is concerned that this situation itself is a major security threat. Yet, no mass media person will ever ask Obama at a press conference why he has done nothing about such an important branch of our government being under such a cloud.

    Yes, there have been DHS corruption cases prosecuted with convictions, mainly for your usual bribes and pay-offs, but not a single case of busting up an espionage operation that I am aware of. That is a strong indication that whoever is running successful operations against us has partnered up with what we call, ‘protected entities’, almost always political people who are above prosecution.
    We are losing this aspect of the War on Terror. There is type of domestic terrorist which DHS does not seem to have any problems with. I will let you guess who/what that might be.
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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    when comparing the Bauman photos and his amazing recovery, to the Nick guy, consider this. a lot of focus has been on his left hand pinky finger. yes, see? the recovered Bauman appears to have his left pinky intact. it is entirely possible that this may have been the result of Hollywood special effects. but this is just speculation and we will be speculating the BBM until the next false flag event, then we start over.
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    Default Where do body goes after death?

    Boston bombing suspects mother have been insist to have her son's body return her, for proper burial.

    Last holding his body was prison hospital where they declared they do not have his body.
    FBI respond was "local authorities have it ."
    Mother's side(be aware not father's side) could not located the authority which possess the body.
    Then suddenly they came up with the solution for mother's grieve.
    Body was buried in unknown location.

    If law protectors are criminal what is the solution to protect common people?

    They are mess up so heavily which it's aftermath cleaning is going to be cause a chaos

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    Quote Then suddenly they came up with the solution for mother's grieve.
    Body was buried in unknown location.
    That is even more apauling but somehow less surprising then expecting a human response from Dick Cheneys plastic heart.

    Poor mum

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    ...

    And this photo at 2:49 p.m.:
    [CENTER]
    ...
    In this image, what could they be up to under that cellophane wrap, standing in the middle of the sidewalk?

    What are they "cooking" under there?

    This is supposedly the same moment, within the same minute, as the first pop.

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    Are they "sheltering in place"?

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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Related....I have watched many items & parodies of
    conspiracy events in the movies especially over the
    last few years with 2012 etc....Ion says the Hollywood
    writers scour the alternate conspiracy media for ideas
    and to hide real events in plain site by putting them
    in our collective psychy as fantasy or scy fy....

    I just watched Ironman three and the main villain
    was the Mandarin. Bearing in mind Crisis actors
    etc. The Mandarin is a Bin Ladin parody, but the
    fun bit is...'Trevor'...If you have seen the movie
    you will know what I mean...LOL...

    If not if or when you see it you will remember this
    post & why it tickled me..LOl..and its links to
    smoke & mirrors....

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    From : http://www.globalresearch.ca/state-c...emocracy/17922

    Countering Authoritarian Followers’ castigation of ‘conspiracy theories’: The scientific reality of State Crimes Against Democracy (SCADs)
    New research in the journal American Behavioral Scientist (Sage publications, February 2010) addresses the concept of “State Crimes Against Democracy” (SCAD). Professor Lance deHaven-Smith from Florida State University writes that SCADs involve high-level government officials, often in combination with private interests, that engage in covert activities for political advantages and power. Proven SCADs since World War II include McCarthyism (fabrication of evidence of a communist infiltration), Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (President Johnson and Robert McNamara falsely claimed North Vietnam attacked a US ship), burglary of the office of Daniel Ellsberg’s psychiatrist in effort to discredit Ellsberg, the Watergate break-in, Iran-Contra, Florida’s 2000 Election (felon disenfranchisement program), and fixed intelligence on WMDs to justify the Iraq War.1

    Other suspected SCADs include the assassination of Lee Harvey Oswald, the shooting of George Wallace, the October Surprise near the end of the Carter presidency, military grade anthrax mailed to Senators Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy, Martin Luther King’s assassination, and the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11, 2001. The proven SCADs have a long trail of congressional hearings, public records, and academic research establishing the truth of the activities. The suspected SCADs listed above have substantial evidence of covert actions with countervailing deniability that tend to leave the facts in dispute.2

    The term “conspiracy theory” is often used to denigrate and discredit inquiry into the veracity of suspected SCADs. Labeling SCAD research as “conspiracy theory” is an effective method of preventing ongoing investigations from being reported in the corporate media and keep them outside of broader public scrutiny. Psychologist Laurie Manwell, University of Guelph, addresses the psychological advantage that SCAD actors hold in the public sphere. Manwell, writing in American Behavioral Scientist (Sage 2010) states, “research shows that people are far less willing to examine information that disputes, rather than confirms, their beliefs . . . pre-existing beliefs can interfere with SCADs inquiry, especially in regards to September 11, 2001.”3

    Professor Steven Hoffman, visiting scholar at the University of Buffalo, recently acknowledged this phenomenon in a study “There Must Be a Reason: Osama, Saddam and Inferred Justification.” Hoffman concluded, “Our data shows substantial support for a cognitive theory known as ‘motivated reasoning,’ which suggests that rather than search rationally for information that either confirms or disconfirms a particular belief, people actually seek out information that confirms what they already believe. In fact, for the most part people completely ignore contrary information.”4

    Full article at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/state-crimes-against-democracy/17922

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    Shredded Clothes - Eddie McGee man in Boston Bombing?


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    Hey Paula,

    No, this Eddie Mcgee thing doesn´t make any sense.

    First, he doesn´t even look similar to the guy in shredded clothes. Totally different facial and muscular structure.

    Second, the guy in shredded clothes is not an amputee; He´s got both legs with just a few scratches on them.

    So, why would they hire an amputee actor to interpret a guy who has both legs?

    Raf.

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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Fake bombs yes?










    The photoshop department must be very busy faking ALL photos and videos covering this event...
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    BREAKING - No Pun intended - Boston Bombing Amputees found in Hollywood Amputee Site

    Thanks, RMorgan. Just putting these out there for the curious. I'm beyond needing to know. If it helps others to let it go, then great. This will be my last post for this thread.


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    Interesting that MSM used Photoshop in reverse this time: hiding injuries:

    From: http://fstoppers.com/daily-news-phot...ront-page-nsfw

    ‘Daily News’ Photoshops Boston Bombing Photos on Front Page (NSFW)

    Following the terrible events that happened in Boston yesterday leaving at least 3 dead and more than 170 wounded, the Daily News is under the spotlight of criticism for doctoring photos. While they have appeared to have doctored the photo because of its graphic nature, they still maintained many other graphic images on the cover of the publication. So why?

    The photo, showing an injured woman with what appears to have shrapnel damage to her leg, was doctored to be able to use for the front page of their publication. While the original photo, by Boston Globe photographer John Tlumacki, is perhaps too graphic for cover publication, The Daily News still maintained plenty of gore and blood on the cover of their paper.


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    Related as been already emphasised earlier.......

    Booming surveillance industry surprise surprise !!!


    Under the Microscope: Mass surveillance on rise in US after Boston attack



    Published on 10 May 2013


    The Boston terror bombings reinvigorated debate over the role of public
    surveillance in the US New York and other major cities have, in recent years,
    expanded the number of cameras, using Homeland Security department grants.
    The multi-billion dollar security industry is growing at up to 8 per cent a year. The
    question is: who's keeping watch on what Big Brother is up to?
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    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    Quote Posted by InCiDeR (here)
    On Saturday, Boston Marathon victim, Jeff Bauman, served the role as a fan banner captain for NHL team in TD Garden:
    Video

    Hmmm... amazing recovery I must say...
    That's been nagging at me as well. While most of the spotlight has been focused on Jeff Bauman though, my wife and I were watching one of the major evening "news" programs barely 2 or so weeks after the bombing. They spotlighted a bombing victim, a freshly legless young woman in her hospital room, merrily showing off her rapid recovery by hopping from the bed and into a waiting wheelchair herself. Plop.

    We both turned to each other like: "WOW"...

    Is there something I've missed in our vast war experience of treating devastating battlefield wounds, that someone can now have both legs blown off, and then be rearing to go in just a couple or so weeks? There very well may be a logical explanation, but we would both certainly like to hear it.
    Just to keep a running file on this stuff...


    Dr. Stan Monteith, a 35-year orthopedic surgeon on Jeff Bauman’s leg amputations: “I believe that this young man was an actor”
    May 10, 2013 by FauxCapitalist

    Stan Monteith“Grandpa Liberty”, Dr. Stan Monteith, a 50-year veteran researcher of alternative information suppressed by the mass media, a radio broadcaster since 1993, and a 35-year orthopedic surgeon who has performed many leg amputations said (starting at 1:06) concerning the Boston Marathon bombings on the May 8, 2013 episode of Radio Liberty (emphasis mine and pause words removed):
    “I wanted to just call to your attention the Boston bombing on April 15. What really happened? And I’ll tell you, I don’t know what happened. But I know that they’re lying to us.

    And basically, I know that they’re lying to us because of a picture that I saw on that very first day. It was a devastating picture. It was a fellow that had both legs blown off. A young man sitting in a wheelchair, being wheeled, certainly by a gentleman — a cowboy figure — who had a cowboy hat on and he was actually holding a tourniquet on the left leg, which was a below knee amputation, and there below, certainly, the stump of the below knee amputation, was the tibia — a bloody tibia — sitting and certainly, but the interesting thing is why the tourniquet wasn’t applied.

    The tourniquet was just sort of underneath the leg, holding it up, it wasn’t stopping any flow of blood because there wasn’t hardly flow of blood on that side. It looked like there was some blood on the right leg which was taken off above the knee. But why would they take somebody who had just had both legs blown off and put him into a wheelchair? He would’ve been in profound shock. And why weren’t the tourniquets on both legs, certainly clamping off the blood supply? And when I saw that, I knew something was wrong.

    And then of course as you know, I was a trauma surgeon for many years, I was an orthopedic surgeon. And basically, I looked at that below knee amputation on the left side, and it was a well-healed below knee amputation stump, and certainly, the kind that I would’ve done. I did many, many times, so people could wear prostheses. And there was no tear in the skin, no blood, no nothing at all — just a bloody tibia sticking out of the end — and it looked like it had been attached to this stump. Why would they do something like that?

    And then of course, we’re told, this fellow’s name was Jeff Bauman. Some people said he was actually a lieutenant who had lost both legs in Afghanistan. He had a different name, but that gentleman had two above knee amputations, not below knee amputations, and this was definitely a below knee amputation, and I puzzled over this for some time.

    Until, until recently, and you can get this on the internet, you can see these pictures for yourself, until basically, Jeff Bauman, 19 days after losing both legs, why, he was let out of the rehab hospital. How could that happen?

    It takes a long time after you’ve lost both legs, you know, to get prostheses fitted, to get strong enough, and get the strength in your arms., but 19 days after the attack there in Boston, why this young man, Jeff Bauman, went to the Boston Bruins hockey game, and you can see pictures of him — go up on the internet.

    And you can see pictures of him — he’s waving a flag, and he has two above knee amputations. Above knee amputations. Now wait a minute, the Jeff Bauman we saw initially had a below knee amputation and this is an above knee amputation.

    I puzzled over that. How could that be, until I talked to a gentleman named Jim Fetzer who will be a guest in our programs and we said he was wearing a prosthesis, they put a prosthesis on him. There are even pictures where the prosthesis accidentally fell off, so they put the prosthesis on to give you the idea that it was a fresh amputation — it wasn’t, it was all contrived.

    Look at the pictures, ladies and gentlemen — ask yourself, how could he have possibly have had a BK amputation in the initial pictures and now he has two AK amputations? We’re being lied to at every turn.
    Then, at 34:44:

    “Of course I’ve tried to call the Spaulding Rehab Center on three occasions, and of course, I’ve tried to talk to the fellow there in charge of the press, and he always says if you’re from the media, and you certainly have a deadline, give us a call. We keep calling and leaving a number and we never get a call back. And the only reason I can think that that is because the last thing they want is for the media to know that this whole picture, this picture that was implanted in our minds, and there was articles in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal about Jeff Bauman who lost both legs there, this is all fraudulent. And if that is fraudulent, then what else is fraudulent?

    And quite frankly, we don’t know, ladies and gentlemen, if they had this whole thing contrived. And I believe that this young man was an actor."
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    Some other things that puzzle my mind:
    • Have anyone seen Jeff Bauman in pictures showing the bomb scene before it went off?
    • I have spotted other of the victims there, shouldn't he be there as well?
    • On the other hand, he is not the only one I haven't discovered on those pictures.
    • But why mix actor(s) with real victims?
    • Maybe they needed one who could point out the brothers?

    ... and the merry-go-round goes round and round and round...
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    Quote he was actually holding a tourniquet on the left leg, which was a below knee amputation, and there below, certainly, the stump of the below knee amputation, was the tibia — a bloody tibia — sitting and certainly, but the interesting thing is why the tourniquet wasn’t applied.
    Right there this guy is letting us know that he hasn't looked at the pictures and therefore is basing his whole spiel on imagined data.

    As for this part:

    Quote There are even pictures where the prosthesis accidentally fell off, so they put the prosthesis on to give you the idea that it was a fresh amputation —
    ... see this post <---

    ... which also happened to "Guy # 2":








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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    Just to keep a running file on this stuff...


    Dr. Stan Monteith, a 35-year orthopedic surgeon on Jeff Bauman’s leg amputations: “I believe that this young man was an actor”
    May 10, 2013 by FauxCapitalist

    Stan Monteith“Grandpa Liberty”, Dr. Stan Monteith, a 50-year veteran researcher of alternative information suppressed by the mass media, a radio broadcaster since 1993, and a 35-year orthopedic surgeon who has performed many leg amputations said (starting at 1:06) concerning the Boston Marathon bombings on the May 8, 2013 episode of Radio Liberty (emphasis mine and pause words removed):[INDENT][I][COLOR="darkslateblue"]“I wanted to just call to your attention the Boston bombing on April 15. What really happened? And I’ll tell you, I don’t know what happened. But I know that they’re lying to us.
    Excellent - that's the most credible analysis I've read yet. Thanks (and thanks, Stan, wherever you are.)
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Right there this guy is letting us know that he hasn't looked at the pictures and therefore is basing his whole spiel on imagined data.
    You might well have spotted some specific claim that Stan Monteith made that is disproven by a picture. If so, clearly state what that claim was and just how the picture disproves it.

    But, even if you do that, persuasively and correctly, that does not demonstrate that he is "basing his whole spiel on imagined data."

    There is a difference between a mistake (if he made one here) and it all being imagined. Hyperbole is less helpful than accuracy.

    So far, I cannot distinguish your referring to Stan's analysis as "his whole spiel" from the typical sort of neuro-linguistic programming typically used to discredit someone else's analysis, for no adequately presented reason.
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