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    Hi Limor:

    Yes, not many can do what I am suggesting, either not being willing to, or not having the ability, or a combination of both. That is why I keep saying that I am looking for needles in haystacks. It has to be the heart in charge above all, the inspiration of the right brain (mystical experiences can help develop it) in combination with discrimination of the left (scientific training can help develop it), and some kind of experience on the high road, or some kind of radicalizing experience that opens a person’s eyes beyond their scarcity-based conditioning, and this is guaranteed: if you were raised as a human on Earth anytime in the past two million years (unless you lived in some vanished Atlantean-style civilization, and even then I am not sure), you were subjected to scarcity-based conditioning. It was so pervasive that it was like the air you breathed and the water you drank, and the vast majority of humanity simply accepts those root assumptions as “normal,” and as I have kept stating, when those assumptions are “normal,” and abundance is unimaginable, Godzilla has us just where he wants us.

    I have been accused of having an elite agenda, but that is a false perception, IMO. Anybody can meet those qualifications above. I admit that it won’t be easy for the people working in the cow-pie factories that David visited, but anybody who lives in the West has the opportunity to do what I am suggesting. Almost nobody possesses the willingness to do so, but that is largely because personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity. Again, for the people comprising the choir, it is not going to be some ride on the gravy train, but it will be hard, thankless work. But I am going about this in a way where it likely won’t be life-risking work. I have seen enough blood and guts in this lifetime, and I am not sure what the benefit was, other than to try to avoid any more of it. Anybody wanting to play Indiana Jones can go see Dennis. I admit that my ambitions are not so lofty, but that choir has never been seen on Earth before, and it seems worthwhile to see if it can be formed and see what it could do. It beats watching TV, and it could be instrumental in helping humanity turn the corner, and humanity needs all the help it can get.

    Time for working in the yard.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Enjoying Your Enjoying Nature from a Peruvian Pachamama Perspective, Wade...

    May you and your wife have a great time 'connecting' during your time-off : )

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    Well, you invest a great amount of energy (of a certain type) in this effort, Wade, but when this attempt will catch like a wildfire and a proper song will be formed on the lips of many, that allow the awarness of Free Energy to chime in to society's mind, then your own EROEI measure will sky rocket to a never known magnitude which will cancel all need in any energy measures per capita. Abundance and free flowing energy need no measure. However, It sounds to me as if you may want to look for a highly educated mountain climber ibexes rather than lambs

    Quote Originally posted by Wade Frazier: " As I have written plenty, some scientific literacy is really needed in order to develop a comprehensive perspective. People don’t need degrees in physics, but they need to understand the basics of science. They don’t need degrees in math, but innumeracy can be a great hindrance. For instance, hydrogen power and biofuels have been touted in the media for many years now, and both are completely crazy “solutions” that depend on the public’s scientific illiteracy and innumeracy so that they don’t get laughed at
    Public illiteracy can be part of why hydrogen powers and biofules are so easily implemented and used, but how can one explain the scientists and economists approval of these? they are suppose to have a better understanding of the data..

    And their inability to accept alternative energy options that may actually have a tremendous potential that leaves behind in the dust all other alternative sources such as hydro, sollar, wind etc. indicates that a little more is needed than just erudition, an open mind and a personal integrity are asset not to be taken lightly.
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    Hi Limor:

    Ah, that would be a long discussion on why economists and scientists support “solutions” such as biofuels and hydrogen. That has partly to do with them selling their souls, just like all the “smart” people who state that the only viable treatments for cancer are surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#system

    or that compulsory fluoridation is somehow smart “medicine”:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/fluoride.htm

    or why my nation’s capital is named after two mass-murdering thieves:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint

    or that I went to a grammar school named after a genocidist:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra


    who is literally up for sainthood:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint

    This is all related, and it always boils down to personal integrity being the world’s scarcest commodity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    and because people with integrity almost do not exist on our planet, I am trying to find some in a different way than Dennis tried, or Brian tried. Fifty heroes could do it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes

    but there are not fifty to find. I am also not looking for people whose integrity is all that high. I am not asking anybody to play at Dennis’s level, but to just gather enough courage to simply imagine abundance, and maybe sing a little.

    Time for bed.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    As an addendum to my posts yesterday, that comprehensive perspective is needed so that each member of the choir will be able to paddle his or her own canoe. Unless it becomes their song, this will not work. Sure, I will be the leader of the chorus for some time, and I am working on the hymnal, but relying on me or the “experts” can be hazardous. As you can see by the posts on this thread, even when people are not denying that FE is possible, the Level 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11 kinds of attitudes are evident, and those approaches will pull the effort in unproductive and even suicidal directions. To successfully walk that razor’s edge will take hard work, discernment, and for those in the choir or aspiring to be, do not expect encouragement from anybody in your daily life. If there is, consider it a blessed bonus. Even in my own life, I get all manner of person trying to undermine me, even today, and I have had to remove them from my life when their attacks became active. Again, virtually nobody on the planet today understands, and I am looking for people who are willing to try, and they will be rare. But the upshot could be helping humanity turn the corner.

    If this was easy, we would already have FE. The inertia of a scarcity-addicted humanity, with Godzilla and the lower-level predators playing dark shepherds, is an incredible dynamic to behold, and not in a good way, as we race toward the abyss. If Michael is to be believed, and I would not bet against him, we are exactly at the juncture where about a third of ensouled species that can manipulate their environments wipe themselves out:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age3

    and when they do, wiping out their environments as the agent of self-extinction is twice as common as wiping themselves out via warfare. We are in a race-of-the-catastrophes scenario, all based on our energy practices (the Gulf Spill, Fukushima, genocide in Iraq and Afghanistan, accelerating mass extinctions, global warming, acidifying the oceans, deforestation, erosion, etc.). That FE can make it all go away overnight is mind-boggling in not only its potential:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

    but also in how it is universally denied, down to the roots, with more than 99% of the people who even hear of FE falling into Levels 1, 2, 3, and 5:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

    while those who get past it nearly invariably fall into Levels 4 and 8, while those who want to “do something” fall into Levels 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11, and maybe one in ten thousand is fit to become a Level 12. But those numbers, while they seem like they are impossible, as far as amassing a Level 12 choir, are actually pretty good:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post665156

    and using the Internet to find them is how I am going about it. I am using a new technology in a way that makes my idea at least worth trying. No banging on doors like Brian O did:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions

    No barnstorming with the circus like Dennis did, no Indiana Jones-ing, no beseeching governments, corporations, and NGOs, no tinkering inventors applying for patents and raising money, no trying to sneak up on Godzilla, and so on. Those have all been spectacular failures, and I am trying something different, and we will see how it goes.

    If I even found one person at Avalon who was a Level 12 contender, I would have been satisfied, and I did better than that, so I call my presence here at Avalon a successful experiment.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Just a quick note. I have begun making those posts that I have threatened to make:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672115

    There is much more to come. I want to briefly address an observation that I get all the time from newbies to this material. If people begin to grasp the magnitude of the picture that I am sketching with my work, and what the potential of FE can be, it is obviously one of the biggest stories of all time, if not the biggest. It is natural to think that those around you will want to hear all about it, but you would be wrong, I am sorry to say. As in that account by Roads, we live in a reality where the mass consensus rules, and it rules because people have chosen it, and consensus reality is a semi-sentient state, at least on this planet, today. That can change, but it needs to be chosen. Does that mean that FE and abundance will happen in an alternate reality and not here? If I really believed that, I would not have devoted my life to this path.

    But if you are one of the needles that I seek, you are going to be a needle. Your friends, family, and associates are not going to support you in your choral efforts, much less studying the material that I am putting out there. It won’t be easy, but to the extent that I am able, I am trying to help people keep their sanity as they embark on the path, and, believe me, it is a sanity-threatening path, and can definitely be a life-risking one. I have seen many casualties, and have had to be patched up myself periodically.

    But the last thing I see is the friends, family, and associates of anybody in the choir becoming a Level 12 themselves. It won’t happen, but only in the rarest of circumstances. You might live in an intentional community like Darren does, but as even he found out, nobody is really too interested, being mired in their favorite flavor of scarcity.

    That does not mean that we can’t become a Level 16 civilization:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level16

    It is just that the heavy lifting to get there won’t be done by the masses that are locked into their herd behaviors and “consensus” reality. But when FE is delivered to their homes, or they can travel only a little distance to see it in operation, then they will begin to wake up:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    and probably not before then. It is also possible that I beamed down onto the wrong planet, and having FE dreams is some kind of torture that I deserve for prior misdeeds. I don’t think so, but nobody is letting me in on the joke of my being here, so the last thing that I am trying to do is force anything. Hence, my lamb’s path.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Just as an FYI, I made the second post on those future Earths this morning:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672748

    and the next several days may be continuations of that theme on that thread, if I make any posts.

    Best,

    Wade

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    Hi:

    I am working hard on the chores, the kinds that do not get done unless they are performed on sabbaticals. A primary purpose of my upcoming essay is to help people develop a sense of perspective. It will necessarily be comprehensive, and the devil is always in the details, but I want to help my readers develop an epochal perspective, because that is what has been missing from all the FE efforts that I ever saw. There might be a little lip service given to it, but it was quickly left behind as people started to “do something,” and their egocentrism and inexperience stunted their perspective, and when that happened, it was game over, with Godzilla rarely needing to lift a claw. Almost everybody went for some kind of quick kill, some easy path, something that they could do on their lunch hour, or maybe a few weeks of toil, before the gravy began to pour in. Of course, as Dennis took the businessman’s route, the thievery and other greed-inspired behaviors took over, and the most common dynamic was his associates trying to steal the business:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#ucs

    To be charitable, the thieves never thought epochally, unless it was that glimpse of the quadrillion-dollar nature of FE:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

    that initiated the orgy of greed. Godzilla is definitely thinking epochally, but he is doing his best to prevent the next epoch from happening. There have only been a handful of epochs in the human journey, and every one of them was initiated and sustained by tapping a new energy source. The first one was the control of fire:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#fire

    the second was tapping the energy of the megafauna:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#megafauna

    the third was domesticating plants and animals:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#domestication

    and the fourth was tapping into the energy of fossil fuels:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#industrial

    and that is it. There was arguably a 3.5 when Europe learned to harness water and wind power on a scale that had never been done before, which allowed them to conquer the world:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post666395

    Astute readers will notice two dynamics, among others, in the above list. One was that the time between the first and second was hundreds of thousands of years, if not more than a million. The time between the second and third was only tens of thousands of years, while the time between the third and fourth was only thousands of years, and we are only a few hundred years into this epoch, which will end soon if a replacement energy source is not developed. The other thing that might be noticed is that the energy harnessed rose dramatically each time, with order of magnitude increases with the most recent two epochs over the previous ones:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

    The increase in the level of energy acquisition and use was the big event, with everything else a sideshow. The economic, political, and social changes were primarily outcomes, not causes. The epoch that we are on the brink of, the FE Epoch, is already here, technologically, but the worst elements of humanity currently control the situation, because the masses have abdicated their collective responsibility and sentience.

    Helping humanity over the hump into the next epoch is my game. Seen another way, humanity is at the stage for sentient species where they exterminate themselves a third of the time:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post671352

    When seen in that light, everything else happening on the planet is meaningless, with the daily politics, “news,” entertainment, so-called economics, and social scene merely inconsequential noise. When you begin to think epochally, that stuff becomes truly meaningless. I am not saying that people cannot find comfort and diversion in those activities, but the Titanic is just about to hit the iceberg, and virtually nobody is trying to steer or is even aware of the waters that we are sailing in as a species. I am not only trying help us turn away from the iceberg, but to also turn the Titanic into a starship. That is what FE can do. As I have stated, doing this sure beats watching TV.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Going hiking in a little while, but briefly…

    The recent news about the Boston Marathon Bombings is that the younger brother wrote a confession on the boat that he was caught in:

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...urces-say?lite

    And what I find conspicuously absent in the American media, as usual, is any assessment of the legitimacy of the grievance. Of course, the “action” is to be deplored, but what about the legitimacy of the grievance? Naturally, the only American of prominence in the media who is bringing up this issue publishes out of the UK:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...es-us-violence

    The American media is completely bankrupt, ethically and in many other ways, being little more than a propaganda machine:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

    The British media is usually little better, but is not nearly as monolithic as the American media. The USA’s reaction to “terrorism” is to pour more gasoline on the fire, but the so-called “collateral damage” of those people injured and killed at the marathon that the younger “terrorist” referred to is actually how U.S. planners think of those people at the Marathon – acceptable losses on our side, which nobody will ever admit publicly. They fully know that these acts of “terrorism” are merely retaliation for our genocidal crimes:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post652292

    It is also great for Orwellian population management, to rule through induced fear:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#orwell

    It is like Jefferson’s observation on the resisting American Indians: they will kill some of us, but we will kill all of them:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#exterminate

    That is the calculus of American war planners for two hundred years, using the American people as cannon fodder and, boy, do we ever oblige them.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I am going hiking soon, but briefly, the action has been happening over here lately:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post674969

    I am going to put up an image, to give an idea of what is coming up. In my office at home, I have seven bookcases, and six are jammed with books. The bookcase in the picture is some of what I have been studying for the past several years in preparation for writing my upcoming essay. Most of the books in that bookcase I studied, often intensely, over the past several years, as preparation. My style has been to read the books, with note-taking paper inserted in the books that I write on, making notes as I plow through them. Probably most of them were largely read while I was taking the bus to and from work. You won’t be able to read all of the titles, but it can give you an idea of the preparation that it has taken me, and on some days I don’t feel up the task, but on most I think that I have enough oomph to make an adequate presentation of the material and my points.

    Last week, I was able to do something that I have not been able to do for the past four years, which is organize my library. My wife banished it to our garage four years ago, which was two moves ago, when I lost my “lair” where my library was also in my office. I had to buy two new bookcases and then it took me about two days to reorganize my library. There are sixteen bookcases in my garage library, in addition to the six in my office. It holds well more than a thousand books, and not much of it is fiction (about one bookcase worth, although in the house is about another bookcase, mostly science fiction and fantasy). The topics range from math, science, and medicine to economics, history (including plenty on world history, and the rape of the Western Hemisphere by Europe probably is the biggest single topic), media studies, politics, environment, and mystical material, including more than an hundred channeled works and a bookcase on the world’s religions and spiritual masters. And that does not include stacks of political, media studies, and channeling magazines. I had a globe-trotting friend here last weekend, and he has been seeking out visionaries for many years. He said that he does not know anybody quite like me, tackling the breadth of material that I do, in the way that I do. I told him that reorganizing the library was a kind of “this is your life” experience, and the range and depth of material in my library daunts even me at times. I know that I can’t do justice to all of it in this lifetime, but I am going to see if I can synthesize enough of it so that my readers can develop perspectives comprehensive enough to where they can keep their eye on the ball, so maybe we can get something done.

    We will see how it goes.

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    Hi Wade,

    My mother was a librarian and the head of the periodical department in Bar Ilan University in Israel, she read more books than any other person I have ever known, and needless to say the attitude towards books at our home was one of a great respect. I myself never studied at a university or in any other institution of higher education but I did chose to take courses in history and archeology at the Open University, which required many hours of reading and acquiring knowledge from text.

    I understand your ability and your need to extract information from the research and labour of others, (I can not understand your brains ability to summerise, conclude, add to it, make it your own and string it along in your own work, but oh, well : ), I would like to ask you whether you tend to read any research or life experience (Biography) of someone who you know you are not going to resonate with, do you have any books in your library that you absolutely do not agree with and knew so before you bought the book? Many thanks.
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    Hi:

    The weathermen should all be fired here. Yesterday’s prediction of partly cloudy today turned to rainy overnight. That is typical for around here, but since I can hike when the weather is nice, not being a weekend warrior for the next several months, I will do more chores today.

    Hi Limor:

    Oh yes, I have studied many works where I either did not know much about them and wanted to find out more, at varying levels of wariness, to studying work that I knew far in advance would make me nauseous. I’ll make some references here.

    I went through the pain of studying Rush Limbaugh’s work, but “work” might be too charitable a description of his screed. Early on, I studied the various alternative viewpoints, as well as the mainstream one, such as with the media. I studied the far right media criticisms, and the left's, and that was after twenty years of reading the daily newspaper, thinking I was getting the news. In fact, those kinds of studies were how I eventually saw the lopsided nature of both the structuralist and the conspiracist viewpoints:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

    For another instance, I began to study the “skeptics” in the early 1990s. I had heard plenty of negative stuff about them, but I had to see for myself. Studying the “skeptics,” including legendary members such as Carl Sagan:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

    and James Randi:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#randi

    was highly educational, and then I had direct personal experience with somebody who is currently one of the most famous “skeptics,” and he confirmed all of my worst suspicions about them:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...itz#post410817

    The guy stalked me on the Internet for many years, hurling his slime.

    Susan Blackmore might be the only honest “skeptic” that I ever encountered (and that she is also the only female “skeptic” that I have encountered is probably no coincidence), but her work leaves much to be desired.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#blackmore

    McLuhan and Carter both take on Blackmore’s work, and they make many of the same observations about her work that I had.

    I have written plenty that in my historical researches, the ideal historian’s task is hunting down primary documents in an archival setting, but each subject is a life-consuming task for a historian.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#objectivity

    I have had to largely read secondary accounts, mostly by professional historians, but I would read a wide spectrum of material, seeing the left, right, and mainstream viewpoints. In general, I have far more respect for the leftist authors, although there are also many astute authors from the mainstream, and the right produces worthwhile stuff periodically.

    For instance, I searched for years for anything critical of the work of Uncles Noam, Ed, and Howard:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/zinn.htm

    and I have never really seen anybody invalidate their work all that much. Almost all assailants were grinding their particular ax, usually from the right, but also from the so-called left, and the mainstream is always hostile. I think that the structuralism of the Left stunts their perspective, but within the confines of their arguments, they are among the best that academia has to offer.

    In studying history, it quickly becomes evident that there is no such thing as an objective history, although I respect the ideal, just as I do in many disciplines:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#orthodoxy

    It is just that the ideal is rarely ever approached, much less realized.

    And as I have stated repeatedly, if not for the many larger-than-life events in my journey, my academic study would not amount to much, nor would I likely have much worth saying. My odyssey is what gave me the perspective where I could dive in and not get lost (but that might just be another delusion ).

    After more than a dozen years of that academic adventure, interspersed with more adventures (where I nearly went to prison ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting )), a pal said that I was a comprehensivist, and I did not know what he meant, and then he had me read some of Bucky’s work, and I understood:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

    Ever since, I have been more consciously comprehensive in my work, and I think that my short essays since 2002, when I finished my site, have been better than what I wrote before. What is coming will be my first truly comprehensive scholarly essay, but it won’t be too intensely scholarly. The goal is to turn on the reader to go studying what I did, and it was intentionally done so that it stayed away from too much that is arcane. That is not necessary to comprehend the picture that I will be painting.

    Time for more chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    As an addendum to my previous post, I have never shrunk from controversial topics. My days with Dennis comprised kind of a primer on that score.

    Before I even busted Dennis out of jail, I came upon a man who knew that JFK was not killed by a lone nut:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

    and it was another dozen years before I had anything to say publicly about it, after a great deal of study. I was kind of an “honored guest” in the Velikovsky controversy in the late 1990s for a few years, interacting with most of the players in the controversy. Velikovsky was treated shabbily by many in the scientific establishment, but that did not make his theories accurate. I don’t think that any professional astronomer ever took his planetary billiards scenario seriously, and there is really about zero evidence for it. Velikovsky’s theory of a recent ejection of Venus from Jupiter is also something that no planetary scientist takes seriously. The idea that those events caused the quaternary mass extinction is also not taken seriously in professional circles, and it is not because those are all dogmatic clubs, although dogmatism can be found in any discipline, but because the evidence just does not support those scenarios. The alternative to gravity and related theories in the Velikovsky canon just do not hold up, but there are continual efforts to try to revive Velikovsky’s theories:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post636893

    and call me very skeptical of them. In a similar vein, Stalinist scientists championed abiotic oil theory long ago:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ist#post624464

    but the advent of plate tectonics, sophisticated techniques of determining isotope ratios and the like have laid abiotic oil theory to rest, IMO.

    Similarly, I spent quality time on the moon landings controversy, and found that all the so-called evidence for faked moon landings collapsed upon further inspection:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

    In all of those areas, I was sympathetic to the fringe claimants, but their evidence rarely survived much scrutiny. So far, the JFK hit and the UFO issue still stand tall, although they are mercilessly ridiculed by the mainstream, but I happen to know better. Watching Dennis get smeared by the national media with regularity was an eye-opener, but what was more telling were all the lies told about Dennis by people in the FE field, with newbies like Foster Gamble carelessly repeating the libel, even after being notified that it is libel.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...red#post621892

    Those are just more examples that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity and that we are our own worst enemies. Godzilla rarely has to lift a claw, as we do most of his work for him. I am still getting bombarded with emails on the “false flag” aspect of the Marathon Bombings. The evidence for a false flag virtually does not exist, and a great deal of amateur “image analysis” and other garbage has already been recycled several times, even stuff that was obviously bogus early on. So it is, in conspiracist circles. The Marathon Bombings are an example of blowback, and will likely be opportunistically exploited by the “national security state” people who have true national security at the bottom of their list of priorities. If we want true national security, we should stop invading nations across the world and killing off millions of people in the name of scarcity and greed.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    It's difficult to argue the Boston Marathon bombings and there is no point in it as it is. I do not so much agree with you here, Wade. There are diffrent aspects to the 'false flag' issue, it might not be what the 'conspiracist' claim, and it probably can not be proven on any basis of clear evidence, but those who know the nature of the beast and can identify its finger prints - the play with the minds of young people, aka - mind control, can clearly see the working that was most likely taken place behind the scenes.

    A need in strong evidence is acceptable and understood, otherwise, it is just a theory and a hypothesis such as in the Velikovsky's cases, if I understand it correct. And yet, as you suggest, it seems appropriate to examine every topic from all it's various sides and angles, and with the many points of views. This is not a surprise that if we want to adopt a comrehensive perspective we need to be willing to examine the 'for and against' of every issue. An examination of conflicting opinions or theories that are inconsistent with our own may actually help us understand better what characterizes the thinking of the other person or the opposing stance and probably to strengthen some of our own points of views.


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    Hi Limor:

    From what I have seen, the Boston Marathon conspiracism that sprouted up within hours of the bombing was of the worst sort, and I am seeing the same disinformation getting recycled already. In the USA, we saw it right after the Colorado shooting, the Connecticut school shooting, and so on. Every single event like this is being chalked up to “false flag” by the conspiracist crowd. It is diseased thinking. In the Boston Marathon bombings, within a day, the victims were all called actors, they were not real bombs, and so on, and I keep getting hit with stuff that not even the tabloids will touch, as it is so out there. What an insult to the victims.

    Sure, young, impressionable men are putty in hands of many interests (governmental, the “resistance,” and so on), but to call every event like this a false flag, and the kind of “evidence” that is being put forth for it, is the worst sort of conspiracism, and such irresponsible theorizing and “evidence” adduced actually provides cover for the real conspiracies, as any conspiratorial actions can be swept under the same paranoid carpet.

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    Hi Wade,

    There was a time when bomings were a matter of a routine in Israel, either on busses or on the street, especially in Jerusalem where I lived. Dozens were dead each and every week. The method was that young suicide bombers coming from the occupied territories were exploding themselves. In 1996, while at the office located on the main street in Jerusalem three explosions occurred within five seconds of each other, we hid under the table, it was an insticnt. And when we thought there is no more danger we came out to try and assist the injured people who run up the street. The man we bought falafel from every lunch break got killed. On another occasion someone who worked on a different branch of the same company that I worked took the 'wrong' bus to work and exploded, I talked to her years afterwards when she was still in rehabilitation and had the extraordinary courage to go back to work and use the bus to get there.

    Years later, I find out that mind controlled assassins are being used to sow terrorism in the service of the governments behind the scene. Palestenians terrorist cells are sponsered and trained indirectly by the Americans and the Israelis who are in the service of Godzila, that much is known, but the use of MKULTRA methods and technology on young people to commit certain acts is less known, less talked about and is less researched. To me this is what goes under the definition of 'false flag', it may mean that there is an outside intervention that has it's own interests. I do understand what you are saying, of course, Wade, conspiracism is 'attacking' the event with all the wrong facts, looking for crams of something suspicious, and going way further while doing a great disservice to searching the 'truth'. This is not a real research, but more of an unbased, way 'out there' accusations, and sometimes is the best reaction. What propmpts my own reaction here and I appologise if I am derailing this thread, is to not go the opposite way and assume that there is nothing in there. It is difficult to treat this case as something that developed organically in the hands of two brainwashed young Chechens that hate 'big America' and would like to get back at the government via the people, this is so very convenient for 'them' that the public would think along this line. We live in a complexed climate, in a complex reality and to understand the rules of the game, a little bit of 'out there' is needed. When I read your words again, I realize that we may be saying the same thing in two different ways. And in any case I understand that we must base ourselves on something solid before drawing conclusions.

    (I set this sign to myself)
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    Hi Limor:

    Yes, you understand my point, and our exchanges on this subject are no so off-topic. If there is evidence that adequately supports a conclusion, then the conclusion is worthy of being investigated further, to see how valid it might be. But when every event gets shoehorned into a narrative, no matter the evidence, then we have something else happening. If the Boston Marathon was a true false flag, the way to go about it would be to gather as much evidence as possible, analyze it, then make some hypothesis that something happened beyond what was apparent. That is not what has been happening, but a bunch of non-evidence has been paraded and recycled, and as I stated earlier, a prominent academic has been one of the worst offenders, backing stuff that does not have the slightest credibility, and my email in-basket is filling up with that tripe. I have seen the same thing happen with the moon landings, and that is something that I got to the bottom of:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

    My life was wrecked by an international “conspiracy,” so I sure don’t deny that they happen, but there is a paranoid mindset known as conspiracism that sees conspiracies behind every bush, and that disease is rampant in the USA today, and it makes my “story” easy to dismiss as another “conspiracy theory.” I have been dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist” for many years. The left has a conspiracy phobia:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#parenti

    while the right sees a conspiracy everywhere it looks. Both are unbalanced perspectives. By their very nature, conspiracies do not leave a paper trail, and when the conspiracy is performed by powerful forces, either governmental or private (as in Godzilla), then it not only can be almost impossible to get to the bottom of, it can be life-risking behavior to investigate:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wilcher

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#casolaro

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#divorce

    In the end, the best way to end conspiracies is to “drain the swamp” of secrecy, end scarcity, and the like. The end of conspiracies would come with abundance. It is part of the same conundrum that FE sits within. Love will conquer all, while fear is self-defeating.

    Trying to unmask the conspirators is a fool’s game, especially when the subject is FE and the stuff that really matters. I don’t deny that conspiracies exist, but I don’t obsess about them, either.

    I acknowledge Godzilla’s existence, and I am doing what I can so that he does not feel the need to step on me again, but I also do not lie awake at night, thinking about him. Almost nobody has a balanced reaction to his situation, as they are either in denial or obsession, and both are fearful reactions. I will not go on talk circuits or mount conferences, because that is when people get killed in this field:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

    or they beat your door down a couple of days later:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#raid

    and I see naïve denial all the time about that reality (you can even see it on this thread – I call that Level 6 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6), or I see the equally naïve notion that Godzilla can be snuck past (I call that Level 7 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level7), and the most foolish of all think that they can take on Godzilla in battle (the delusional Young Warriors in Level 9 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level9). I have seen it all in this FE field, and anything below Level 12 is an unproductive reaction.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    As a brief addendum to my previous post, I am all-too-well acquainted with the “conspiratorial” world, from the offers that we got to go away:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

    to the espionage and theft that the authorities engaged in when they raided us:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

    to the sting operation that was mounted against us a decade later:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#sting

    to a close relative who was a CIA contract agent, working for a household-name “diplomat,” and that relative nearly tried to recruit me into the family "business":

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

    I am all-too-familiar with the milieu. Mallove’s murder spooked Brian, who immediately moved to South America, where he spent the rest of his life, and I did not blame him:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

    Brian survived a murder attempt himself:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

    so his “paranoia” was understandable.

    However, I have many around me who have become conspiracy “enthusiasts,” especially since 9/11 (and my jury is still out on that event http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11), and I have seen how damaging it has been for their mental health to obsess about conspiracies, and how unproductive it all is. The conspiracist mindset is a very unhealthy one. The ability to acknowledge conspiracies without becoming obsessed with them is the identical talent that is needed to walk the razor’s edge to Level 12:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    Love, clear thinking, and getting out of one’s armchair is required to navigate that minefield.

    Best,

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    Hi:

    As a P.S., in those two future worlds that Roads visited, at the very top of the food chain in that hellish world was a grand “conspiracy” enacted by the gray aliens:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672115

    while in the heavenly world:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672748

    deception was probably not only impossible, but nobody would have seen the point. But as Roads's mentor explained, the humans attracted the “conspiracy” to themselves, creating a fertile field for the “conspiracy” to hatch via their greed and indifference. I don’t regard that account as fantasy or allegory, but it should be evident that that dynamic has everything to do with how I am going about the FE game, and why every attempt below Level 12 has not come close to working yet:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

    and I doubt that they ever will. Without a bunch of Level 12s (several thousand, for starters – AKA “The Choir”), no effort stands a prayer.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wade Frazier: (from memories of Brian) "As I began buying professional assistance for NEM, the next week we had some technical issues with the help I brought in...Some was understandable, but some seemed a little over the top...With some of the exotic technologies that the GCs possess, and my impression that they used mind-attacking psychotronic technology the week before Mallove was murdered and immediately after the conference, I doubt that I will ever accept the random-crime explanation of Mallove’s death..."

    " Those were terrible times for some of us, but throughout it"
    Wade, Would you say that in that period of time, and in other challenging periods in your life where you felt less comfortable, you were able to think in a level 12 mindset?

    Quote Originally posted by Wade Frazier: "The ability to acknowledge conspiracies without becoming obsessed with them is the identical talent that is needed to walk the razor’s edge to Level 12:
    What you are reffering to (and leading by example) is a kind of balance that is not easily acquired, it requires on one hand the ability to observe and understand the materia while at the same time to adopt a whole new perspective that has nothing to do with what we see infront of us. It is a state of complete strabismus in which one eye is on the game that someone else initiates, but our main focus of body and mind is where our own game is being designed and taking shape.
    Can that be done while the old game planner continues to hit? and back to my first question, would you say you were able to arrive to this very balanced mindset while you were going through the most challanging times in your life? for example, while fasting in order to live within budget, while seeing Dennise's company being wrecked once again, while attending the courtroom looking into Mr deputy's eyes?
    Many thanks as always ~
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