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    I had my initial awakening experience in 1996.When I first began to remember who I was beyond this body and human version of myself it was both exciting and frightening. I remembered myself as a god with my friends playing with the planet like children in a sandbox. We were enormous and could easily manipulate all the forces on the planet (in fact the forces were our will), including our little human figurines who lived there.


    The more I remembered of this level of existence the more powerful and important I began to feel. In fact I began to see myself as a version of the Christ who was here to reveal to humanity the monumental reality behind the scenes of the mundane reality.
    Luckily however, my guides decided to show me an even deeper level. When I reached this new level I cried and cried, the feeling, which I had never experienced before in my life was just the most amazing peaceful incredible, whole, humbling...right feeling which I can only explain as being ‘home’.


    I initially cried, and then I laughed and laughed and laughed....at myself, at us, and how seriously we took ourselves and everything!


    In this space I saw that it was all just us...a being that could be one or many that played with itself through eternity. In order to entertain ourselves we create stories and inject ourselves into them, and once immersed we often forget the deeper reality so that we can really lose ourself in our creations and have a more authentic experience. Being the incredibly complex being that we are our stories tend to have many many layers and dimensions to them. We like to make it sooo complex that the process of untangling ourself, once again, becomes a challenge.


    As the process of awakening occurs, and we begin to remember who we really are, we can become aware of the extra layers of reality that seem more profound than the surface layer we have been existing in. The key to really waking up is not to get caught in these deeper layers and think they are ‘reality’ ...yes they are as real as the universe is real...but they are still just part of our ‘story’ that we inject ourself into..and not truth in the deepest sense of the meaning.


    My understanding is that this time our experiment is to fully awaken to the deeper reality in this physical sphere. In order to do this we have to be very careful not to get caught in our own traps...in which there is... more important and less important, powerful beings...gods, hierarchies, good guys and bad guys etc (these are just layers of the story (our god-being feedback loop).


    I believe the aim is to remember ourselves whole. One being...which includes everyone (not a percentage) and every thing...down to every blade of grass....alive and part of the majestic whole. Each aspect capable of being at once a unique individual and the ALL. Where everywhere we look we recognize ourselves shining in the eyes of others, in the flight of a bird, the surging of the ocean and the falling of a dead leaf.

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    The entire process of Creation is a constant feeback loop in its current form. The whole process is stuck in a chaotic feedback loop where the result feeds the Creation, in a sense, creating more of the same ad-infinitum. This is why humanity still has all the same source of problems as we do in all our "history".

    The perception of things is the point where we can break this loop and get back on that wave of being a creator, instead of a "reactor".

    "If I perceive X, I will react with Y" -- how many people have this mentality already programmed into their head? If I ask almost anyone, "What would you do if 'X' happened?", they would say "I would do / be 'Y'". Then if I asked "Why?", they would give me reasons based upon previous perceptual input - from the distant past, from a reality that exists only in the past. Humans have become programmed "reason making machines" - to justify our lack of personal greatness (that everyone has but hides).

    When I am asked a similar question (Well, these days anyway; Almost drive my "other half" to insanity with this, lol), I only ever answer, "When I am in that situation, I will act with the results I deem best at that time." - I have stopped myself from dragging my actions / solutions / problems from out of the past only to be repeated. This helps break that loop, along with seeing each event / problem with no relationship to the past; new problem, even if it looks similar, always needs a fresh solution, because things never stop changing on many levels.

    Some dude named "Jesus" said once - "Be in this world and not of it", in my full opinion is referring to the issues with this feedback loop and how to break out - to be in this world but not of it, means to exist in this world but to not base your thoughts or choices on it, thus breaking the "loop" between perception and reaction.

    And this lends evidence to my humoured belief that we are indeed powerful creators, but since our "creations" (in the form of, thoughts, actions, reactions, choices, etc) are based on perceptions from the past, they are stuck and doomed to repeat forever. The loop must be broken, which means we need an entirely new way to PERCEIVE things. So what would be new? Perceptions and reactions not based in fear would be new. We have been in a fear based state of perception and reaction for all our history, as can be seen in all our history.

    That change has to be a shift in this perception and action, to one that is not based in fear, else we get nothing but more of the same.

    So we are in an environment that shifts as we do ... because we are creating it without realizing

    My 2 cents on the "feedback loop universe"

    Excellent post Enfoldedblue!

    Bottom line is this feedback loop is our tool of experience and learning about ourselves -- the gift is when humanity collectively realizes what is happening, and thus can direct it for greater Creation.



    I added a couple updated sentences to help clarify my point.
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    Default Re: Caught in Our Own Feedback Loops

    That's the beauty of the eternal paradox and the tricks we play on ourselves.

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    Hi Enfoldedblue, i always enjoy your posts,thankyou.I have a question and this is something i am struggling with ATM.Being a mother of children, two of whom are teenagers, it is impossible for me to maintain my "god is me "outlook in the day to day grind.To put it another way,i dont feel it is possible to NOT be affected by the daily turmoil that involves interacting/disciplining/advising and loving these difficult creatures!

    So i have reconciled to myself that i chose this most challenging time in my life to "wake up"and that there will only be moments in my day that i may feel a sense of profoundness/peace and other nice feelings but certainly not while i am talking yet again to myself because of cemented in earphones!

    I often wonder if i will get to a point (before im an old lady and the children are grown and on their way)where i will be able to take the lovely moments of peace that i experience when i am home alone and integrate them into my mindset when i am refereeing a disagreement,insisting someone get off the computer NOW,iron that school uniform BEFORE the morning of school etc,
    soooo, if you have any ideas on how to accelerate the process of the flowing on of remembering why im here to the difficult times during the day when my emotions seem to take control- i am all ears!

    Love lookbeyond

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    Ha ha I hear you lookbeyond. I am a mother of a four year old...and to say the last few years have been a challenge to someone who has spent most of their life able to do what they want when they want would be an under statement. Please don't think I spend all my time in blissful, peaceful awareness! No like most of us here I am in a process of becoming, of learning to integrate what I know on the higher levels with the lower aspects of myself. In fact my child is fabulous for this . If he wasn't here I could easily think I was quite an enlightened being...lol. I call him my little zen master because he is good at showing me the parts of myself that still need work and integration.
    When I do find myself reacting in an emotional state I am slowly getting better and remembering to reconnect with my heart and consciously try to raise the frequency of the experience. I am slowly getting better and better at this...key word slowly .


    Quote Posted by lookbeyond (here)
    Hi Enfoldedblue, i always enjoy your posts,thankyou.I have a question and this is something i am struggling with ATM.Being a mother of children, two of whom are teenagers, it is impossible for me to maintain my "god is me "outlook in the day to day grind.To put it another way,i dont feel it is possible to NOT be affected by the daily turmoil that involves interacting/disciplining/advising and loving these difficult creatures!

    So i have reconciled to myself that i chose this most challenging time in my life to "wake up"and that there will only be moments in my day that i may feel a sense of profoundness/peace and other nice feelings but certainly not while i am talking yet again to myself because of cemented in earphones!

    I often wonder if i will get to a point (before im an old lady and the children are grown and on their way)where i will be able to take the lovely moments of peace that i experience when i am home alone and integrate them into my mindset when i am refereeing a disagreement,insisting someone get off the computer NOW,iron that school uniform BEFORE the morning of school etc,
    soooo, if you have any ideas on how to accelerate the process of the flowing on of remembering why im here to the difficult times during the day when my emotions seem to take control- i am all ears!

    Love lookbeyond

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    until the gravity wave problem is solved , humans on earth will suffer a split consciousness ... a unified mind will lead the way to greater things for the human race ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    until the gravity wave problem is solved , humans on earth will suffer a split consciousness ... a unified mind will lead the way to greater things for the human race ...
    Please explain further
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    Quote I remembered myself as a god with my friends playing with the planet like children in a sandbox. We were enormous and could easily manipulate all the forces on the planet (in fact the forces were our will), including our little human figurines who lived there.
    Acts 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool

    Bhagavad Gita 11:32 Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds

    Mudaka Upanishad (on the nature of the divine) The earth is his footstool

    My thoughts? Much organised religous thought centres around notions such as these, that the earth is a toy or tool or punishment of some all high entity. These all high entites are us, and it is our ego which puts the limit of our seeing here. The ego loves to be one of the powerful, one of the elite, one who has minions and power of life and death, one who can destroy the earth, or use it as a footstool, or even save it. The ego sees its rightful place as one of the exalted elite, as "the one", even as the most high.

    Thankfully, we also have a heart. The heart is the great leveller, and with love we see there is something beyond the limit of ego-bound site. There is nothing above us, there is nothing below us, there is just us, and we are love.

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    Dear sister ( ENFOLDEDBLUE)...thank you for your post, its refreshing and uplifting to have family share the same resonance.
    I was only thinking last night that project avalon can become quite dreary and cynical at times. Your understandings
    have reinforced the reason I come to this site....AROHANUI ( with love)
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    Is it ok if I share your post on Galactic Universal Embassy ( our little star seed group ) in Perth Australia??

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    People who have not yet recognized their own wholeness also cannot keep their promises. They often contradict themselves to the point of sabotaging their earlier goals and plans.
    Because they are still fragmented they cannot see their inner divinity.
    Having known both states, at least I can remember that it is all a process.
    It also makes it easier to forgive someone who is not yet there.
    Supportive group networks are doing wonders these days, and many are coming around and waking up.
    I'm amazed at what Im discovering on Facebook these days, after having been absent there for several years.

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    Quote Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
    I believe the aim is to remember ourselves whole. One being...which includes everyone (not a percentage) and every thing...down to every blade of grass....alive and part of the majestic whole. Each aspect capable of being at once a unique individual and the ALL. Where everywhere we look we recognize ourselves shining in the eyes of others, in the flight of a bird, the surging of the ocean and the falling of a dead leaf.
    Christina, are you ever going to write something that doesn't ring absolutely true to me? (LOL)

    I've been torn for some time between are we learning or remembering, but continue to lean more and more towards the remembering side. For one, I just don't see how learning can happen this rapidly. But recovering lost or obscured memories can occur in a virtual flash. When the "time" is right that is.

    And yes, EVERYONE eventually returns safely "Home", not just some...

    Thanks for another great thread!

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    Fred....GREAT post....but in regards to remembering...do you mean we've already had this experience and are re-living it?

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    Quote Posted by SlickWillie (here)
    Fred....GREAT post....but in regards to remembering...do you mean we've already had this experience and are re-living it?
    Not this particular one, but many (millions, billions, trillions?) very similar throughout the eons. Round and round we've gone. I found it particularly interesting enfoldedblue talking about the traps, and she's dead on IMO. One of the biggest traps I see now for Avalon type people, is the ever so enticing trap of "hero defeats villain".

    She describes it perfectly me thinks in this "story" she told a ways back:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Garden-a-story

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    Quote Posted by etheric underground (here)
    Is it ok if I share your post on Galactic Universal Embassy ( our little star seed group ) in Perth Australia??
    Hi etheric underground, Glad you appreciate the post...it always makes me happy when others 'get' what I'm saying and don't just relegate me to the 'crazy' corner
    I'd be pleased if you shared this writing.

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    Hi Ulli, Thanks for posting. I agree there does indeed seem to be a real movement towards understanding our wholeness and this is very encouraging and refreshing.

    Hi Fred, It's funny the remembering thing. When I had that awakening experience I was writing about, there was no doubt in my mind that I was remembering. The line "...and now you remember you forgot" echoed in my mind and it seemed so funny that I had completely forgotten who I was beyond "christy". However I do think that ultimately that the awkening process is a mix between the two. So each time we awaken we remember and learn more. This makes the process dynamic and alive.

    Thanks for your thoughts and support
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    Fred...thank you sooo much for sharing that story! INCREDIBLE illustration! Do you believe in reincarnation?

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    Hey really glad you like the story...I almost forgot about it.

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    Thank you for starting this thread enfoldedblue. Your OP here, and the responses from the other members to it, especially Fred's, is what made me finally decide to quit lurking only, and to actually join Avalon as a member.

    It seems to me that you have most wonderfully explained the meaning of the Sanskrit saying: neti neti.


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    Hi Lakewatcher,

    Welcome to the forum :-) . Thanks for commenting. I have not heard of neti neti before...only neti pot lol, but i find that so often that which we find on the inside can be validated on the outside. I look forward to looking into this.
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