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    I dont feel very stimulated... especially when so many questions have still gone unanswered
    Totally agree with your assessment.

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    When we stand in front of a mirror and look ourselves in the eye...what we see before us is the result of trillions of years of existence...all wrapped up in one neat package...with all our faults and all our talents and all our attitudes.

    So what will we work on today to improve our quality of life? Will it be the sexual problem? Or will it be the rage problem? Or will it be the fear problem?

    Whatever our state of mind, might be, for each of us, is right inside our minds at this moment...there are no pieces stuck in other dimension or wandering around in some past lives millions of years ago...we have brought the whole package along for the ride...maybe too much to sort out all in one go...but we can work at it one step at a time.

    There are probably an infinite amount of ways, we might stumble upon, for the solution to each one of our inner struggles. There is no 'one fits all' in this shop.

    Trying to convince me to use one method over and above another is like trying to convince me to change my favorite flavor of ice cream. What works for me might not work for others.

    So find what works for you because, should we not, at least, like the choice we make?

    So now we have another choice and it's called Scientology...so what? Millions of people are quite spiritual and happy and living beautiful, attitude and problem free lives, and they have never even heard of anything called enlightenment...never mind Scientology.

    When the lifespan of this information and thread has run it's course...there will be those who will be off to get audited...I guess...and those who will move on to seek another solution.

    Such is life

    Take care
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    Is this not me as I stand in front of the mirror today, the one who stood outside of time and space and made the decision to join the game. The one who stood with others as we confabulated this journey. Is this not me, the one standing in front of the mirror who sees her face change from a puritan male to a Grecian goddess. Is this not me who in her past arrogance stood above the rest in a position of worship, who strode the earth with her lover Shiva and who then embodied the rage of Lakshmi? Is it not I that stood hot tears streaming down her face, hand in hand with her king, looking out across the northern sea, as she saw before her the beginning of the end of magik on her sacred earth. Is it not I who was beaten tortured and made to obey. Is it not I who stood silent when I should have spoken. Am I not the betrayer and the betrayed.

    Is this not me, sad today because we squabble over methodology? Is this not me today in my aging body looking for ways to maintain my vital energy? And in front of this mirror is it not I that made the choice to leave behind my own personal happiness to find the elusive answer of “Who am I?”. Who made the choice to remove the veil and who has realized that this choice has consequences…

    So I am aware of the this one, standing naked and bare before herself that I am not my body, I am not even my soul, I am more, I am ageless and timeless. I am source and I am you as you are me.

    The real question is what am I becoming today? What am I directing today, where am I going today? Have I too succumbed to the weight of the world or will I prevail a spirit free.

    A being can be happy, have a great attitude and live a beautiful life without being free. I choose freedom above these ephemeral things. I choose this because I know I have been enslaved.

    There are no perfect choices, just choices. A way has been shown out of the prison planet, so for all who have dared I salute you and honor you in your transparent honesty.

    I find this thread fascinating in that it calls us to reexamine our own understanding, to grasp again that we are the weavers of our reality (we have been co-opted!) and then to actually reclaim our power and create the change we want to see.

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    I never once in all this writing recommended to get into scientology ... I only gave this information because it describes how the physical universe works ..
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    I don't recommend anyone to go to scientology or even the free zone ... I am telling everyone what would be nice ... if we can do it ..
    Hmmmm, could have fooled me. History as written by LRH, future as written by LRH, LRH lingo, LRH tech, LRH tech is apparently the only way to freedom, and LRH is the founder of original Scientology. What exactly ARE you recommending then Jim? Buddhism? 2+2 keeps adding up to 5 here.

    Again, I've got no problem (per say) with many of the foundational aspects of Scientology, some of it makes a lot of sense to me. Engrams being one example. But, I'm having a real tough time figuring out just where it is you're coming from, and what your intentions really are with all of this.

    I'm just sayin man...It's that darn old enquiring mind that landed me here at Avalon in the first place.



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    do the impossible like get on the weather channel and find the jet stream ... and move it around a bit .. and see how much it changes the weather ...
    of course ... make sure your thoughts are not used to hurt anyone .. put some rain where they need it
    At least you're not encouraging us to make people sick now, or to have them drop like flies, but apparently you still think there are no such things as unintended consequences. Besides that, we already have the tech to **** with weather patterns, it's called HAARP.
    Thank you for this Fred, I couldn't have said it better. I've been sitting here wondering at which point Amzer Zo follows on by with an e-meter and recruitment forms...

    Jim- It's not that I dont find some of the things you have been revealing, interesting, plausable... I have an open mind... it's why I am on this forum and have been following your thread. I am however curious about your intentions and why it seems that some other people have been answering some of the more in depth questions posed to you, ones that could possibly reveal your perspective further with more Avalon-like answers... (IMO)

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    Quote we dated the others in light years from here .. another body on a base on one of Saturn's moons ... the another planet called base 2 .. and another near the pleides an official in the government of this galaxy ... now .. I don't have a UFO ... so I can not prove any of it ... I only said this is what came out in session ...
    Can you tell us a little more about base 2? Where is this planet? What is going on over there?

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    Quote Posted by Padmé (here)
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    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    I never once in all this writing recommended to get into scientology ... I only gave this information because it describes how the physical universe works ..
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    I don't recommend anyone to go to scientology or even the free zone ... I am telling everyone what would be nice ... if we can do it ..
    Hmmmm, could have fooled me. History as written by LRH, future as written by LRH, LRH lingo, LRH tech, LRH tech is apparently the only way to freedom, and LRH is the founder of original Scientology. What exactly ARE you recommending then Jim? Buddhism? 2+2 keeps adding up to 5 here.

    Again, I've got no problem (per say) with many of the foundational aspects of Scientology, some of it makes a lot of sense to me. Engrams being one example. But, I'm having a real tough time figuring out just where it is you're coming from, and what your intentions really are with all of this.

    I'm just sayin man...It's that darn old enquiring mind that landed me here at Avalon in the first place.



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    do the impossible like get on the weather channel and find the jet stream ... and move it around a bit .. and see how much it changes the weather ...
    of course ... make sure your thoughts are not used to hurt anyone .. put some rain where they need it
    At least you're not encouraging us to make people sick now, or to have them drop like flies, but apparently you still think there are no such things as unintended consequences. Besides that, we already have the tech to **** with weather patterns, it's called HAARP.
    Thank you for this Fred, I couldn't have said it better. I've been sitting here wondering at which point Amzer Zo follows on by with an e-meter and recruitment forms...

    Jim- It's not that I dont find some of the things you have been revealing, interesting, plausable... I have an open mind... it's why I am on this forum and have been following your thread. I am however curious about your intentions and why it seems that some other people have been answering some of the more in depth questions posed to you, ones that could possibly reveal your perspective further with more Avalon-like answers... (IMO)
    there were 2 underground earthquakes on the same day in washington DC and Denver ... these are the underground cities the cabal built to save only the rich (at a price). they were planning to blow holes through the ionosphere with HAARP and allow us to be fried world wide by the sun ...then someone on the internet comes up with the idea that it was our military that did it ... but they found no radiation. ... so others had a theory that it was done by friendly aliens ... they said something went down there and raised the air pressure up to 20 times the pressure and turned everything to dust ... now this has been happening all over the planet earthquakes in strategic locations where reptilian bases are ... they told the cabal now if you like to blow holes in the ionosphere you will have no place to go either. so we will allow others to do our fighting for us because we do not have anyone here who can confront that much evil ,,, if I try to confront it on a more gentler scale just make them sick every time the go to work in those places .. then I am evil and I would eventually turn it to some kind of dictatorship ,,, whether I would really do it is another thing ,,, the point of this is if you are below anger on the tone scale you are moving toward succumb ... when you are above anger on the tone scale you are moving toward survival .. most of the people on the planet are below anger heading toward succumb ... means you can not get above anger and go fight them .. but it is totally ok if we let our alien friends fight them ... but if I use my power to make them sick you will say that is evil ..., it all depends where you are on the tone scale .. if you are up there at 20 action and 22 fighting ... you are way up there in survival level ... but you would have to be someone like a bruce lee to be in a tone like tone 20 ... and at tone 20 a person would not hesitate to do anything to protect his family and friends ... it is just a different viewpoint ... they are covertly dumping poison on us and poisoning our food .. and you are saying it is not ok to covertly make them all sick? what kind of hypocrite thinks this way?

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    Quote Posted by Padmé (here)
    [...] I've been sitting here wondering at which point Amzer Zo follows on by with an e-meter and recruitment forms...

    [...]
    Relax, Padmé, 'not going to happen

    See this post <---

    Like jim, I am an ex-scientologist and, like many, realized what was happening with the "church."

    However, it gave me the opportunity to first study the materials and technology of auditing quite in depth and with that came the application and, like many, the convincing factor did not come from faith or dogmatic beliefs but from the results obtained.

    Hence, I am not going by hearsay, gossips or parroting of others' "think" of the subject.

    Like jim, although in a much smaller, minute scale, the fruits of the action are exactly as stated... that's the only thing that can be objectively assessed.


    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    [...]

    Well, me think they all are in books and lectures of the 50s and post 80s… making good on the promise of being free from the $cientology organization.

    [...]

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    A being can be happy, have a great attitude and live a beautiful life without being free. I choose freedom above these ephemeral things. I choose this because I know I have been enslaved.
    Hi Dear Christine...Thank you for your post.

    IMO, you are only partially correct with this statement...and it is only as true as you...as an individual...perceives it to be.

    Freedom is a state of mind...you can be in a jail and be free...

    If someone is happy and lives a beautiful life and has no direct experience of enslavement...they can be free..despite the fact that you, as an outsider, may think they are enslaved...because of some 'inside' information you may think you have.

    Ignorance is a wonderful thing at times...especially when the stuff you are not aware of is relative only to the state of mind of another.

    We are only enslaved by our own thinking...because we are only as free as the realization of the illusion of enslavement we wish to impose on our lives.

    Enslavement is a mental state. We see this in many places and forms in life...the children who cannot get their way think they are been enslaved...the rebel teenagers who are heading for a life of crime are enslaved by the parents...etc etc.

    Do not think I have forgotten or am ignorant of the many forms of what many perceive as enslavement, which we see in life...but each one of these is a direct result of the current thinking of the human race from thousands of years of understandable weakness and failure to stand up to the rights which we have as spiritual beings. We have been duped into enslavement by our own ignorance.

    Despite this perceived world of enslavement...which is all material based...there is not one thing that is been held from us to reach the goal which we as Spiritual Beings seek...despite our ignorance of the goals. “Is that not a contradiction”...I here some say? No it is not...because the call from our Source comes from within and not from some external source, like false religions...questionable stories...and emotional imaginative thinking and indoctrination...which the 'wise' have now labeled...mass enslavement.

    Take care and love to you
    Ray .

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    Reposting here from the other thread:


    As far as I can see (hopefully a little bit beyond my nose) here is the big stumbling block about everyone is running into:

    Most of us have already heard it before, this "If you let us teach you and you are willing to acquire our knowledge, you'll be "gods" like us!" You know, Adam, Eve, the snake and the apple?

    However, and this is where keen discernment is badly needed, the above carrot was presented to a people that were "fallen angels"/gods, a euphemism for being sent to jail on a prison planet... fallen into disgrace from the "Olympus" of some "Galactic confederation." Nice psyop!

    The misdirection/disinfo is that, this "If you let us teach you and you are willing to acquire our knowledge, you'll be "gods" like us!" was -- has been, and is being -- promulgated and promoted as the words of tricksters whose sole interest was/is to enslave us.

    The promoters of the: "It's a trick" (mis-)direction, conveniently omit(ted) to mention that we were/are already slaves in a prison planet jail... fallen into disgrace from a galactic "Olympus."

    These OT abilities speak to the core of every child through fairy tales... to be told later on: "Nah! It's like Santa Claus... just fantasies, myths and fables..." Another psyop.

    Were these fairy tales designed as precursor tests to locate individuals with OT and psychic abilities, gone to industrial proportions with the likes of MKultra?

    Hence, people with remaining OT abilities that could move mountains were the subject of witch hunts from the dawn of time via the "Holy Inquisition" and up to MKultra and the likes.

    Why?

    Because these OT abilities are right in the face of their "You are made of mud and it's all mud from here on to nowhere!" It flies in the teeth of the "It's all genetics, you were born this way..." and the hereditary bloodlines, aristocracy and any ritualistic, ceremonial pomp of "god's" chosen king/queen that's mirroring the reptilian/mantid/cat people/all sorts of greys and "blondes" that's "up there"...

    Well, here is an account on how it's done "up there":

    Excerpts from 1952 lectures:
    Quote An Invader Force is an electronic people. The electronic people usually happen to be an evolutionary line which is on heavy gravity planets and, so, develop electronics. At some time along the line, it took off, in its youth, to conquer the whole MEST universe. Physical forms: any that matched the earlier purpose of this group. They've usually got some gimmick like Fac One. Control has been the main thing : The way to control territory is to control people.

    There are 5 Invader Forces active. Some of you hit the track 60 trillion years ago -- MEST universe -- and some of you didn't get into the MEST universe until 3 trillion years ago : That's Invader Force 1 and Invader Force 2. We don't see anything of Invader Force 3 here, on Earth. Invader Force 4 is really holding the fort some place or other [e.g., Mars].


    Electronics - whether it's thought or otherwise, it just makes 2 classifications of people. Because you'll find they battle. And you'll see this fight going on right now in modern engineering. You go around to a modern engineering lab and you say to these people: “Now, you take the human mind...” and they say: "you take it!" They don't like it.

    And you'll find thought people who go around - and you go around to them and you say: "Hey, here is this electronic gadget..." And they say: "Nyaaw! What!" They don't want anything to do with this.

    This same person at some phase of his development was a thought person and at some other phase was an electronics person. But what he has in restimulation in this life is his thought phase or his electronics phase, and so he will react adversely to thought or electronics... so has randomity appeared in the past.

    Now, way back along the line, you'll find various strange and terrible things happening to people and don't overlook the fact that they did strange and terrible things. Now, here is the first point of confusion in these techniques: who was "they"?

    Who was "they"? YOU! The villain in the piece was you [fighting the other 1/2 of the universe]. the hero in the piece was you! The people who were on neither side, that was you, too. In other words, you want to know who did it to you, well, you did. Nobody did it to you, but you.

    You talk about drama. Well, don't be amazed at anything your preclear comes up with... and you'll find out that there are various peoples as part of Invader Force One [60 trillions years ago = old timers]. Have been on the track for an awful long time. The reason you say invader force at all is because at some time along the line, fairly early in its youth, it took off to conquer the whole MEST universe: gobble, glop. And you succeeded, of course, until Invader Force II came along and you got rickety. And by that time you'd probably evolved into this and that or changed into thought people or taken up religion or gone into monasteries or something of the sort because of overt acts. You became a thought people. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere - and without any provocation from you... of course! - Invader Force II suddenly showed up, gunned you down, manhandled you, kicked you over, put you into bodies, made slaves out of you who had been emperors and kings, and Invader Force II which you represent.

    Then you, as a thought person, suddenly made into a slave, would cruise along for a while and one day you'd be sitting in this society and somebody would get this wonderful idea that this is the way you ought to put electronics together so they go "boom!" or so they fly out the tail end of a jet or so that they form up antigravity repulsers or something - somebody gets a big idea about electronics, and there you go. And you're out and way out in space and zingity-bang and over to the next planet, or the next continent even. And you gun them down and you set up the same sort of situations out of desperation, because the second you start to run into a thought people who don't have any MEST bodies, you say: "this is very unhandy” and you make sure they have MEST bodies right soon. [dramatization of earlier incident on the track].

    So, you've been in and out of bodies. You've been thought people, you've been this, you've been that. You've been sheep, goats, spaceness, space officers; you've been governors, kings, princes, ditch diggers, slaves, glaziers, carpenters, bricklayers, amusement park barkers, operators. You have turned planets into parks and parks into cinders. You, at one time or another on the track, have had weapons in your hands of sufficient magnitude to just say: "Boom!" and the whole planet goes. And sometimes you didn't care whether you used it or not. Interesting.

    Now if they're an experienced invader force, they've got it all rigged. It'll run off by rote. They'll pick up these people one by one and they'll say: "Well, you've got to come over here and register. And of course the fellow walks over, registers. A light flashes, the guy's past life, everything about him, goes out; he remembers no more. Sometimes this fellow turns around and walks back to his own group and says: "Nothing happened." and the next guy and the next guy.

    Or they'll come in and they'll sell all the aristocracy in the area the idea that "This is the way you can really control these people. Now, we are going to put weapons of control in your hands. Now, just step right up, sign here. Next one!" they get the aristocracy under control and control the people from there. In other words, control has been the main thing. How do you control territory? The way you control territory is control people.
    Quote If you want to know something about cold blooded brutality and why people here on Earth are so completely, horribly fixated on "let's be kind", and "Let's get it organized one way or the other", it is the utter, brutal disregard for beingness which you find throughout the systems. What you have here and consider humanitarian and so forth is a very interestingly built-up system. There's a caste system which is exercised in other parts of the solar system which would appall the most viciously minded duke [Sade, marquis de] who ever lived on Earth. There's slavery, and what men are put to in that slavery... how men are treated and so forth.
    Quote So, you're looking around for brutality and what's mauling your preclear around and why he's in apathy and so forth - you'd better re-adjust your sights again as to what it takes to aberrate a being. It takes plenty! Takes a terrific magnitude of incident to do anything to a thetan - up in the billion volt category.
    Quote A 5th Invader Force officer carries a doll. They don't carry bodies, they carry dolls. Their identification is a doll. It's a very little flimsy mechanical affair that you can make talk and walk and so forth: they're cute, they are about 1 m. tall, they're very light - you don't use oxygen in saucers. You have this little doll and the thetan energy that a fellow puts out is quite sufficient to monitor the control switchboard in the back of the doll, that's all. And he tunes it up: He's got his wavelength tuned to it and so on and he can walk it around... [hence all these stories of computers going berserk and people fearing computers getting intelligent, HAL, etc... have another look at "Oblivion"...]
    Now, and also, have another look at the top of this page, you know, the Project Avalon banner...

    The simple choice is: are the "science/electronic" and the "spiritual/thought" people gonna again meet on a battle field? Or in a conference room?
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    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    Is this not me as I stand in front of the mirror today, the one who stood outside of time and space and made the decision to join the game. The one who stood with others as we confabulated this journey. Is this not me, the one standing in front of the mirror who sees her face change from a puritan male to a Grecian goddess. Is this not me who in her past arrogance stood above the rest in a position of worship, who strode the earth with her lover Shiva and who then embodied the rage of Lakshmi? Is it not I that stood hot tears streaming down her face, hand in hand with her king, looking out across the northern sea, as she saw before her the beginning of the end of magik on her sacred earth. Is it not I who was beaten tortured and made to obey. Is it not I who stood silent when I should have spoken. Am I not the betrayer and the betrayed.

    Is this not me, sad today because we squabble over methodology? Is this not me today in my aging body looking for ways to maintain my vital energy? And in front of this mirror is it not I that made the choice to leave behind my own personal happiness to find the elusive answer of “Who am I?”. Who made the choice to remove the veil and who has realized that this choice has consequences…

    So I am aware of the this one, standing naked and bare before herself that I am not my body, I am not even my soul, I am more, I am ageless and timeless. I am source and I am you as you are me.

    The real question is what am I becoming today? What am I directing today, where am I going today? Have I too succumbed to the weight of the world or will I prevail a spirit free.

    A being can be happy, have a great attitude and live a beautiful life without being free. I choose freedom above these ephemeral things. I choose this because I know I have been enslaved.

    There are no perfect choices, just choices. A way has been shown out of the prison planet, so for all who have dared I salute you and honor you in your transparent honesty.

    I find this thread fascinating in that it calls us to reexamine our own understanding, to grasp again that we are the weavers of our reality (we have been co-opted!) and then to actually reclaim our power and create the change we want to see.
    If that is true follows:

    Is it not you who is jailer and prisoner, reptilian master and human slave? Both the deceiver and the deceived?
    I don't necessarily believe what I think,
    neither do I always think what I believe

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    Quote we dated the others in light years from here .. another body on a base on one of Saturn's moons ... the another planet called base 2 .. and another near the pleides an official in the government of this galaxy ... now .. I don't have a UFO ... so I can not prove any of it ... I only said this is what came out in session ...
    Can you tell us a little more about base 2? Where is this planet? What is going on over there?
    i have to ask cathy to let you know anything going on base 2 she can go there and see it and she can talk to her other timelines and the other LRH that is there, actually base 2 should be base 1 ,,, it started the scientology and I can tell you that it is protected by a time portal in the future between now and the future where the reptilians have created total terror in the galaxy ,,, and speak about mind control they designed it and now in the future they have connected somehow everyone to their reality means if someone can get into your mind and know anything about you and run you and inflict pain or anything else on you to control and manipulate you without your agreement ,,, it is something like that ,,, so you are really taking your chances to not find a way to free yourself now ,,, so we came back to this time to use all the indigo crystal and rainbow children to manage to somehow hold this place in check while we set up this planet to go into 4th dimension and get all those worthy out of here ,,, and let the rest go to another 3d dimension universe if they like ,, cathy is signed up on this site ,, I have to ask her if she wants to give her information but i think she is waiting to see how this is going to turn out before she will jump in the thread ,,,

    base 2 has completed all the scientology and everything is already finished and it is sending missions to repair not only this galaxy but all the others ,, they are also sending spirits back to this planet to alter the future ,, getting everyone to 4th dimension will allow them to see any of the time track and will be able to see that the future is being altered too
    those who are not willing to contribute to this effort will not go into the 4th dimension and those who are so fixed in this reality and contribute to the efforts of the cabal no matter if they are good and just agreeing to save themselves will not go ,,, the choice is now ,,, it is now and everyone has to make that choice to consciously make an effort to turn back into the light ,, that is why they have been delaying the pole shift so more people can turn over and change their minds and start a new path to enlightenment and make an effort to wake up and contribute to the speeding up of the vibrations ,,, in other words ,, if you have to force yourself to sing and smile and dance until you can make enough theta to align the entheta so you can raise your frequency and change your mind and start contributing to the salvation of this planet will be allowed to become part of this on a temporary amnesty ,,, to see if they can honestly pull themselves up past the make break point ... they will be allowed to come ,, no matter how bad they have been like inelis has said
    when this very bad person wanted to be forgiven the light came to him ,,, you have that chance ,,,

    and by the way and I really don't care what anyone says ,,, I was given the right to handle this planet anyway I wanted ,,, me this viewpoint in this time period (I am given only this planet this time period others are in charge of other time periods),,, and that is why the pole shift has been delayed so we can get more people to wake up ... it is my choice .. I am Metteyya

    you can go to any of your sources anywhere you want and see what they say ,,, some of them who really are connected to source will validate what I say

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    You see I didn't have to come to this forum .. I could just wait because I already know what will happen ... but I decided to give the story I decided to see if I could wake up some more before we go into total 4th dimension and all bodies will be changed to a more suitable body to operate as a spirit in one dimension and these bodies will not die ,, and they don't need food ,,, we will be able to learn and study anything we want and we learned how to convert all the bodies to a more suitable body in practically an instant in time and remember 1 hour is 20 or more hours there ,, so they know how to do this ,,,, so I didn't need to tell anyone ,,, but I don't like uncompleted cycles ,,, so I like to come in and give as many a chance as possible before this conversion is done

    so you see anything can change ... but you have to CHOOSE ... and even this pole shift can be delayed to a more future time ... they can easily pull the entire solar system called neburi away from here with one of the ships up there that is the size of jupiter and delay the pole shift ,,, if we can get more resuts than we can we can delay it ... but this earth needs to be cleaned too .,, and realigned with the sun ... so we are trying to do the greatest good of the greatest dynamics ... the reptilians are 80 or 90 percent GE ,, no real spirit there .. so can not change ... they are all created and managed by 10 or 20 percent who have real spirit beings .. those have been sent to face trails against humanity the rest are sent through a portal that will be sealed and they will never be able to return .suppressive person must be right .. if you try to show he is wrong he will actually get sick ... so he refuses to admit he is wrong ... so he can't change unless he will force himself to choose ., you can not rehabilitate someone who will not do the actions to clean himself .. so they will be put on other 3 d worlds until they are able to change their minds

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    also this body can not see ... so if someone ask me if they will be going to 4 d this body can not answer ... it is only a relay to the spirit that is metteyya ... so I can not give you that information ... and this body doesn't always get a good interpretation ... so some data can be in error ... the problem is .. this body has some of its own ideas that might conflict with what metteyya wants to deliver ... so I said .. I get this from my perceptions like the foot on the brake before the car runs the stop sign and misses us by a few inches ... so this body can not decide what mettetta will do in the future .. but it can relay an intention and either get an agreement or not ... so this is what I got to the best of my knowingness

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    Default Re: THE MIRACLE OF L RON HUBBARD'S TECHNOLOGY the end phenomenon that occurred

    As I stated in another thread, I am taking down this link here and posting it in a thread of my own. Sorry to the people who have thanked me here, and if the mods would be kind enough to remove it from the nested quote in Jim's reply, that would be good.
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    Here is a link to a well researched blog that claims (with no small amount of evidence) that not only did Hubbard not invent the e-meter, he wasn't even the developer of the auditing process and other tools or tech. The honour for that, the blog claims, rests ultimately with the Tavistock Institute via MKUltra. Research of Hubbard and the CIA appears to be so uncannily in sync, that the blog, not unreasonably, claims that Hubbard was carrying out mind control, psychological breaking, and traumatically induced schizophrenia experiements for them. It is a long read, but if you are going to seriously consider exposing yourself to any "miraculous" tech, you would be well served to read this. Seriously. The moderators of this site might also care to take a look.

    http://mikemcclaughry.wordpress.com/...e-brotherhood/
    there is a lot of things he didn't do. I wrote him a letter saying a lot of people who take the purification rundown are taking these oils while sweating and they are linoleic and some other
    I told him our bodies are made of aracdonic acid oils and that comes from olive or cod liver ... and a lot of people can not convert the oil ., because there body is not in that good of shape ., so it is better to use olive oil .., he wrote me a letter back and said "go to shaw clinic in los angeles and s doctor there is the person who created the purification rundown .... there are people who were o the ship and said LRH had all his offices o the top deck and someone walked past the offices that said LRH 1 LRH 2 LRH 3 LRH 4 LRH 5 LRH 6 LRH 7 and the said they saw an LRH in each office .... I never saw it ... but I can not say if it is true or false .. I only know that the tech helped learn how to control my powers , the tech worked for me ... I did it without processing and training ... I did it reading a few books and learning how to do it .... so those books I read came true for me ... what is true for others is their truth .. If I can see it ...I can believe it ... if I can't see it .. it is just something someone said it may be true and it may not be true

    I am really trying to get people to open up their abilities ... if this pole shift is coming I am sure I can keep asia safe but I am not sure about the americas and europe .. if we have the pole shift and can control the waters and the tectonic plates which I know it can be done because of continuous miracles I created in my life ,,, I don't care what tech you use .... the being in you will protect you and everything else if you just decide nothing will harm your area ,,, if we have this shift we still got 3 years to move before all the ice caps melt ... so we can keep a lot of people safe ..,. we can use even use all the GE's running bodies without spirits in the future because this planet will be a training base and it needs bodies for spirit beings up there to come here for the training ,,, there are so many options ,,, I am just trying to keep everyone safe
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    You see I didn't have to come to this forum .. I could just wait because I already know what will happen ...
    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    there is a lot of things he didn't do. .....
    I am really trying to get people to open up their abilities ... if this pole shift is coming I am sure I can keep asia safe but I am not sure about the americas and europe .. if we have the pole shift and can control the waters and the tectonic plates which I know it can be done because of continuous miracles I created in my life ,,,


    since u know what will happen is this why u are here, cause u say u didn't have to come cause u already know...but since u did, therefore was that part of what u knew.... and if u know...then why are u not sure about america and europe...if u know then isn't it black and white......oh but things change ....

    confusing

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    practice that first .. get some wins ... and see what you are ... do the impossible like get on the weather channel and find the jet stream ... and move it around a bit .. and see how much it changes the weather ...
    of course ... make sure your thoughts are not used to hurt anyone .. put some rain where they need it

    jim
    Weather changes. Since some years ago I would "play a game" and would "order" the type of weather that I'd want when I would go somewhere. Most of the time it would then be what I wanted, but not always!, and I would just try to leave that thought "somewhere there", as if there it is my wish-order (hm, it would be more an order than a wish, since I would think it as "I want it that way")... and then not to think about it.
    A few days ago the weather forecast for my area was rain for most of the next nine days. I did sort of what you described how you do it and I imagined sunny sky... and here it is. Very difficult thought to prove if this has really something to do with me or it is just how the weather was supposed to change. Hm.
    Any thoughts on it, Jim?
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    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    You see I didn't have to come to this forum .. I could just wait because I already know what will happen ...
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    there is a lot of things he didn't do. .....
    I am really trying to get people to open up their abilities ... if this pole shift is coming I am sure I can keep asia safe but I am not sure about the americas and europe .. if we have the pole shift and can control the waters and the tectonic plates which I know it can be done because of continuous miracles I created in my life ,,,


    since u know what will happen is this why u are here, cause u say u didn't have to come cause u already know...but since u did, therefore was that part of what u knew.... and if u know...then why are u not sure about america and europe...if u know then isn't it black and white......oh but things change ....

    confusing

    feed the world peace
    this is what I know .... there are very powerful spirit beings on this planet .. they are also called royalty ... now get the idea of what it would take just to make a planet like this out of nothing .it is done in the spiritual universe before it is put into the physical universe all this must be newly created within the space time continuum instantaneous creations of space ... so get the idea of how fast a spirit being can be ... the nearest star is about 10 light years from here but a spirit can be there almost the same time he thinks it ... so how fast would a spirit being hove to be to to create atoms and light moving at their speed ... now space is not a nothing ... some ships up there travel by exchanging space ... so for example get the coordinants of a block of space here and another block of space 10 light years from here and swap spaces ... what ever is in this space will go to the new space and what ever is in that space will move here ,,, now a spirit can manage all of it ... he and we created it ,,, you can't be in it if you are not creating it ,. yes I know what will happen and I don't have a worry in the world ... but it is in the KNOW ... there is a big distance from Know to not know ... and you have to get a know about to get the details so you can say what it is .... if something was not going to be right I would know it .. and feel it ... I am thinking of america and europe because it is much easier to put their electronic devices over there and dropping chemicals from the sky can shrink peoples space and make them less causative
    so now we here this thread of attack of the psychic ... which is these devices they put here to send certain brain frequencies to for example keep the wars going in the middle east .. those underground bases have been blown up ... so they can't create as much effect as they would like ... they blew it from inside using some kind of pulse projected there .. from a UFO so we do have help ,,, but in my point of view there are many that would like to keep a closed eye and see if they can still get a piece of the action ... so they use this fact we are not part of their government loop hole to not look in hope we somehow lose it with the pole shift if you look at the last few years none of their predictions have had much effect on the planet ,.,. means we are still in control .. so be advised .. that's all hold your position in space and go out and have a good time and raise the vibration and a good way is action high o the tone scale .. just create abundance of theta .. through practicing martial arts or ping pong anything ... to raise the vibrations will drive them crazy
    because they feed off negativity ... I came here to raise the frequency and a lot of people might not understand that ... you can do it with the tone scale and art is very high up and creates abundance of theta. because it creates energy for the spirit like running a lower wave length over a higher one ... like effort over emotion over looking over ascetics ... all create energy for the spirit being ...

    get it?
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    LRH didn't invent the E-meter. It was developed for him by Volney Mathison in (I believe) 1952.

    This original prototype meter worked well, but others later improved it in a number of ways. The best meters [in my opinion] are currently made by Barry Penberthy, of Ability Meters International. Barry, who I know personally, is in his late 80s and has been in the subject since 1951 -- one of the oldest surviving 'old-timers'.

    My own meter I've owned for 18 years, and I changed the two AA batteries just once in that time -- a year and a half ago. They use almost no current at all. And they measure mental mass and residual 'charge' from past events -- not sweat! They do not function in any way like a polygraph (lie detector). That belief is simply incorrect.

    Christine' is quite right: a meter is not necessary for auditing. It's simply a tool to assist the auditor to know where to 'look' and what to ask questions about. One could use a pendulum (and some people do!), but the meter, which is a high-tech precision instrument, is a very great deal more accurate.

    Mike McClaughry is a well-known critic of Scientology and when he was in the 'Church' was in the 'OSA' -- which is their counter-intelligence and 'dirty tricks' department. I know someone who knew him, and I am assured that he is a counter-Scientology agent. (There are many of those!)
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    Having merged with Source some 35 years ago, I can categorically state that I gave no entity in any dimension any jurisdiction over me. For you to state that this Matteyya entity has the right to choose whether I live or die on this planet is pure BS and just who are "they" who is gonna decide who goes to the 4th dimension or not? Who in hell gave them that right? Who gave Mateyya that right to decide? I can assure you that the story regarding this aspect is delusional on your part and you might want to go back and rethink it!

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    ... and by the way and I really don't care what anyone says ,,, I was given the right to handle this planet anyway I wanted ,,, me this viewpoint in this time period (I am given only this planet this time period others are in charge of other time periods),,, and that is why the pole shift has been delayed so we can get more people to wake up ... it is my choice .. I am Metteyya

    you can go to any of your sources anywhere you want and see what they say ,,, some of them who really are connected to source will validate what I say

    jim
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    Here's a movie of what in auditing is known as a Rock Slam. This is a dramatic and very rare phenomenon, and indicates the presence of an evil spirit (literally). In this case, it was huge. The video lasts for a minute and three-quarters -- an extraordinarily long time for a rock slam to last.

    http://projectavalon.net/Rock_Slam_17_March_2012.MOV

    The person being audited is good friend, and I was in the room at the time in support (which is not normally done). When the rock slam appeared, I was able to take out a pocket digital camera I had with me, and record it. The audio has been edited out to protect confidentiality. This might just be the only rock slam ever recorded on video. Enjoy!

    The evil entity was addressed in the session and handled, as it had effectively given its presence away. Think of the meter here (in this case!) as a little like one of those entity-indicating gadgets they had in Ghostbusters.


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