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    Default Re: THE MIRACLE OF L RON HUBBARD'S TECHNOLOGY the end phenomenon that occurred

    Quote Posted by Sebastion (here)
    Having merged with Source some 35 years ago, I can categorically state that I gave no entity in any dimension any jurisdiction over me. For you to state that this Matteyya entity has the right to choose whether I live or die on this planet is pure BS and just who are "they" who is gonna decide who goes to the 4th dimension or not? Who in hell gave them that right? Who gave Mateyya that right to decide? I can assure you that the story regarding this aspect is delusional on your part and you might want to go back and rethink it!

    ""and by the way and I really don't care what anyone says ,,, I was given the right to handle this planet anyway I wanted ,,, me this viewpoint in this time period (I am given only this planet this time period others are in charge of other time periods),,, and that is why the pole shift has been delayed so we can get more people to wake up ... it is my choice .. I am Metteyya

    you can go to any of your sources anywhere you want and see what they say ,,, some of them who really are connected to source will validate what I say

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    i am sure you will not be stopped ... but perverts criminals degraded beings and etc can not be on this planet until their case is handled
    no one will be killed ... they will die sometime but they will reincarnate to places that better match their vibration level ... and anyone has the right to be rehabilitated if they choose but this place .. this earth belongs to royalty first ... so depends basically on you ... most entities will go to 4 d ... others will be given a choice ... go back to their home planet or another 3 d world until they raise there vibration level and it is strickly technical ... they may not be able to adjust to 4 d ... it is basically that way ... the perverts and criminals will not be allowed here until they handle their ethics so they can go to other 4 d planets ... it is not like you are going to lose anything ... the most powerful will be here ... if you think you can handle that without being intimidated ... go ahead up to you.

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    Default Re: THE MIRACLE OF L RON HUBBARD'S TECHNOLOGY the end phenomenon that occurred

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Reposting here from the other thread:


    As far as I can see (hopefully a little bit beyond my nose) here is the big stumbling block about everyone is running into:

    Most of us have already heard it before, this "If you let us teach you and you are willing to acquire our knowledge, you'll be "gods" like us!" You know, Adam, Eve, the snake and the apple?

    However, and this is where keen discernment is badly needed, the above carrot was presented to a people that were "fallen angels"/gods, a euphemism for being sent to jail on a prison planet... fallen into disgrace from the "Olympus" of some "Galactic confederation." Nice psyop!

    The misdirection/disinfo is that, this "If you let us teach you and you are willing to acquire our knowledge, you'll be "gods" like us!" was -- has been, and is being -- promulgated and promoted as the words of tricksters whose sole interest was/is to enslave us.

    The promoters of the: "It's a trick" (mis-)direction, conveniently omit(ted) to mention that we were/are already slaves in a prison planet jail... fallen into disgrace from a galactic "Olympus."

    These OT abilities speak to the core of every child through fairy tales... to be told later on: "Nah! It's like Santa Claus... just fantasies, myths and fables..." Another psyop.

    Were these fairy tales designed as precursor tests to locate individuals with OT and psychic abilities, gone to industrial proportions with the likes of MKultra?

    Hence, people with remaining OT abilities that could move mountains were the subject of witch hunts from the dawn of time via the "Holy Inquisition" and up to MKultra and the likes.

    Why?

    Because these OT abilities are right in the face of their "You are made of mud and it's all mud from here on to nowhere!" It flies in the teeth of the "It's all genetics, you were born this way..." and the hereditary bloodlines, aristocracy and any ritualistic, ceremonial pomp of "god's" chosen king/queen that's mirroring the reptilian/mantid/cat people/all sorts of greys and "blondes" that's "up there"...

    Well, here is an account on how it's done "up there":

    Excerpts from 1952 lectures:
    Quote An Invader Force is an electronic people. The electronic people usually happen to be an evolutionary line which is on heavy gravity planets and, so, develop electronics. At some time along the line, it took off, in its youth, to conquer the whole MEST universe. Physical forms: any that matched the earlier purpose of this group. They've usually got some gimmick like Fac One. Control has been the main thing : The way to control territory is to control people.

    There are 5 Invader Forces active. Some of you hit the track 60 trillion years ago -- MEST universe -- and some of you didn't get into the MEST universe until 3 trillion years ago : That's Invader Force 1 and Invader Force 2. We don't see anything of Invader Force 3 here, on Earth. Invader Force 4 is really holding the fort some place or other [e.g., Mars].


    Electronics - whether it's thought or otherwise, it just makes 2 classifications of people. Because you'll find they battle. And you'll see this fight going on right now in modern engineering. You go around to a modern engineering lab and you say to these people: “Now, you take the human mind...” and they say: "you take it!" They don't like it.

    And you'll find thought people who go around - and you go around to them and you say: "Hey, here is this electronic gadget..." And they say: "Nyaaw! What!" They don't want anything to do with this.

    This same person at some phase of his development was a thought person and at some other phase was an electronics person. But what he has in restimulation in this life is his thought phase or his electronics phase, and so he will react adversely to thought or electronics... so has randomity appeared in the past.

    Now, way back along the line, you'll find various strange and terrible things happening to people and don't overlook the fact that they did strange and terrible things. Now, here is the first point of confusion in these techniques: who was "they"?

    Who was "they"? YOU! The villain in the piece was you [fighting the other 1/2 of the universe]. the hero in the piece was you! The people who were on neither side, that was you, too. In other words, you want to know who did it to you, well, you did. Nobody did it to you, but you.

    You talk about drama. Well, don't be amazed at anything your preclear comes up with... and you'll find out that there are various peoples as part of Invader Force One [60 trillions years ago = old timers]. Have been on the track for an awful long time. The reason you say invader force at all is because at some time along the line, fairly early in its youth, it took off to conquer the whole MEST universe: gobble, glop. And you succeeded, of course, until Invader Force II came along and you got rickety. And by that time you'd probably evolved into this and that or changed into thought people or taken up religion or gone into monasteries or something of the sort because of overt acts. You became a thought people. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere - and without any provocation from you... of course! - Invader Force II suddenly showed up, gunned you down, manhandled you, kicked you over, put you into bodies, made slaves out of you who had been emperors and kings, and Invader Force II which you represent.

    Then you, as a thought person, suddenly made into a slave, would cruise along for a while and one day you'd be sitting in this society and somebody would get this wonderful idea that this is the way you ought to put electronics together so they go "boom!" or so they fly out the tail end of a jet or so that they form up antigravity repulsers or something - somebody gets a big idea about electronics, and there you go. And you're out and way out in space and zingity-bang and over to the next planet, or the next continent even. And you gun them down and you set up the same sort of situations out of desperation, because the second you start to run into a thought people who don't have any MEST bodies, you say: "this is very unhandy” and you make sure they have MEST bodies right soon. [dramatization of earlier incident on the track].

    So, you've been in and out of bodies. You've been thought people, you've been this, you've been that. You've been sheep, goats, spaceness, space officers; you've been governors, kings, princes, ditch diggers, slaves, glaziers, carpenters, bricklayers, amusement park barkers, operators. You have turned planets into parks and parks into cinders. You, at one time or another on the track, have had weapons in your hands of sufficient magnitude to just say: "Boom!" and the whole planet goes. And sometimes you didn't care whether you used it or not. Interesting.

    Now if they're an experienced invader force, they've got it all rigged. It'll run off by rote. They'll pick up these people one by one and they'll say: "Well, you've got to come over here and register. And of course the fellow walks over, registers. A light flashes, the guy's past life, everything about him, goes out; he remembers no more. Sometimes this fellow turns around and walks back to his own group and says: "Nothing happened." and the next guy and the next guy.

    Or they'll come in and they'll sell all the aristocracy in the area the idea that "This is the way you can really control these people. Now, we are going to put weapons of control in your hands. Now, just step right up, sign here. Next one!" they get the aristocracy under control and control the people from there. In other words, control has been the main thing. How do you control territory? The way you control territory is control people.
    Quote If you want to know something about cold blooded brutality and why people here on Earth are so completely, horribly fixated on "let's be kind", and "Let's get it organized one way or the other", it is the utter, brutal disregard for beingness which you find throughout the systems. What you have here and consider humanitarian and so forth is a very interestingly built-up system. There's a caste system which is exercised in other parts of the solar system which would appall the most viciously minded duke [Sade, marquis de] who ever lived on Earth. There's slavery, and what men are put to in that slavery... how men are treated and so forth.
    Quote So, you're looking around for brutality and what's mauling your preclear around and why he's in apathy and so forth - you'd better re-adjust your sights again as to what it takes to aberrate a being. It takes plenty! Takes a terrific magnitude of incident to do anything to a thetan - up in the billion volt category.
    Quote A 5th Invader Force officer carries a doll. They don't carry bodies, they carry dolls. Their identification is a doll. It's a very little flimsy mechanical affair that you can make talk and walk and so forth: they're cute, they are about 1 m. tall, they're very light - you don't use oxygen in saucers. You have this little doll and the thetan energy that a fellow puts out is quite sufficient to monitor the control switchboard in the back of the doll, that's all. And he tunes it up: He's got his wavelength tuned to it and so on and he can walk it around... [hence all these stories of computers going berserk and people fearing computers getting intelligent, HAL, etc... have another look at "Oblivion"...]
    Now, and also, have another look at the top of this page, you know, the Project Avalon banner...

    The simple choice is: are the "science/electronic" and the "spiritual/thought" people gonna again meet on a battle field? Or in a conference room?
    we are not teaching you anything in scientology .you already KNOW ... but we now have to unteach you ... we have to remove all the lies so you can be big and powerful beautiful you .. again

    jim

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    Default Re: THE MIRACLE OF L RON HUBBARD'S TECHNOLOGY the end phenomenon that occurred

    Quote Posted by TheVoyager (here)
    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)

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    practice that first .. get some wins ... and see what you are ... do the impossible like get on the weather channel and find the jet stream ... and move it around a bit .. and see how much it changes the weather ...
    of course ... make sure your thoughts are not used to hurt anyone .. put some rain where they need it

    jim
    Weather changes. Since some years ago I would "play a game" and would "order" the type of weather that I'd want when I would go somewhere. Most of the time it would then be what I wanted, but not always!, and I would just try to leave that thought "somewhere there", as if there it is my wish-order (hm, it would be more an order than a wish, since I would think it as "I want it that way")... and then not to think about it.
    A few days ago the weather forecast for my area was rain for most of the next nine days. I did sort of what you described how you do it and I imagined sunny sky... and here it is. Very difficult thought to prove if this has really something to do with me or it is just how the weather was supposed to change. Hm.
    Any thoughts on it, Jim?
    take a win .. if you put the thought out before it happened ,.. you probably did it ... do you know of anyone else that would be around that would try it? at least you would have to be co creator of it ,,, take a win and it makes it easier to do nest time

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    Quote Posted by Padmé (here)
    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    I never once in all this writing recommended to get into scientology ... I only gave this information because it describes how the physical universe works ..
    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    I don't recommend anyone to go to scientology or even the free zone ... I am telling everyone what would be nice ... if we can do it ..
    Hmmmm, could have fooled me. History as written by LRH, future as written by LRH, LRH lingo, LRH tech, LRH tech is apparently the only way to freedom, and LRH is the founder of original Scientology. What exactly ARE you recommending then Jim? Buddhism? 2+2 keeps adding up to 5 here.

    Again, I've got no problem (per say) with many of the foundational aspects of Scientology, some of it makes a lot of sense to me. Engrams being one example. But, I'm having a real tough time figuring out just where it is you're coming from, and what your intentions really are with all of this.

    I'm just sayin man...It's that darn old enquiring mind that landed me here at Avalon in the first place.



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    do the impossible like get on the weather channel and find the jet stream ... and move it around a bit .. and see how much it changes the weather ...
    of course ... make sure your thoughts are not used to hurt anyone .. put some rain where they need it
    At least you're not encouraging us to make people sick now, or to have them drop like flies, but apparently you still think there are no such things as unintended consequences. Besides that, we already have the tech to **** with weather patterns, it's called HAARP.
    Thank you for this Fred, I couldn't have said it better. I've been sitting here wondering at which point Amzer Zo follows on by with an e-meter and recruitment forms...

    Jim- It's not that I dont find some of the things you have been revealing, interesting, plausable... I have an open mind... it's why I am on this forum and have been following your thread. I am however curious about your intentions and why it seems that some other people have been answering some of the more in depth questions posed to you, ones that could possibly reveal your perspective further with more Avalon-like answers... (IMO)
    I was just giving examples of what a spirit can do ... I didn't make the scientologist sick that were trying to stop me ... but those that tried to stop me got sick ... I have no answer for it

    jim

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    Default Re: THE MIRACLE OF L RON HUBBARD'S TECHNOLOGY the end phenomenon that occurred

    You are quite right Jiminii, there is no entity who can prevent me from going anywhere I choose and I can assure you as well that the 4th dimension is not for me by any stretch of the imagination. I speak not in arrogance but simply state my truth period. One cannot merge with Source by not claiming their own power as a sovereign spirit.

    I understand that scientology is another set of tools that one may choose to use. As I see it, they are not the best tools as it would seem that you become dependent on having the money to pay an auditor. I needed neither money nor an auditor to make my journey to Source. To each his own.

    I couldn't help but notice, you didn't answer my questions.....



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    Quote Posted by Sebastion (here)
    Having merged with Source some 35 years ago, I can categorically state that I gave no entity in any dimension any jurisdiction over me. For you to state that this Matteyya entity has the right to choose whether I live or die on this planet is pure BS and just who are "they" who is gonna decide who goes to the 4th dimension or not? Who in hell gave them that right? Who gave Mateyya that right to decide? I can assure you that the story regarding this aspect is delusional on your part and you might want to go back and rethink it!

    ""and by the way and I really don't care what anyone says ,,, I was given the right to handle this planet anyway I wanted ,,, me this viewpoint in this time period (I am given only this planet this time period others are in charge of other time periods),,, and that is why the pole shift has been delayed so we can get more people to wake up ... it is my choice .. I am Metteyya

    you can go to any of your sources anywhere you want and see what they say ,,, some of them who really are connected to source will validate what I say

    jim
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    i am sure you will not be stopped ... but perverts criminals degraded beings and etc can not be on this planet until their case is handled
    no one will be killed ... they will die sometime but they will reincarnate to places that better match their vibration level ... and anyone has the right to be rehabilitated if they choose but this place .. this earth belongs to royalty first ... so depends basically on you ... most entities will go to 4 d ... others will be given a choice ... go back to their home planet or another 3 d world until they raise there vibration level and it is strickly technical ... they may not be able to adjust to 4 d ... it is basically that way ... the perverts and criminals will not be allowed here until they handle their ethics so they can go to other 4 d planets ... it is not like you are going to lose anything ... the most powerful will be here ... if you think you can handle that without being intimidated ... go ahead up to you.

    jim[/QUOTE]

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    Hey Jim -- slow down a little.

    Too much for people to read and absorb and understand all at once. *I* have not even read everything you've written the last week. Other members will not log on for several days, and then see such an overwhelm of information that they will just skip over it. You know how it works!

    I have one question for you. (For now...)

    What do you mean by this?

    Quote This earth belongs to royalty first
    I might have something to say, but will wait for your clarification. What do you mean by 'belongs'? What is the 'royalty' you refer to? Who are they and where are they from? What is their function? Whose side are they on?

    Learning point: be really clear and precise and exact about what you write, always bearing in mind what others may assume or interpret --- rightly or wrongly. Enigmatic, dramatic, sweeping one-liners aren't always helpful. Be prepared to pause and explain fully. Don't bewilder, mystify or overwhelm your readers, or else you may lose them.
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    Divine Discernment...
    We all have it within Us...

    My Truth...Mother Earth is upticking now in intense acceleration...4d as I understand it is coming on strong...there will be even higher vibrations to follow...however one labels them. Many here have touched and connected higher already to some degree. There are intense trickles of extremely high help and protection for each of Us to express our personal powers from the heart purely and decisively in the now to sincerely help it all along.

    For me, and as Bill shared on skype...it is best to look at Jim's opening up here as coming from a 'savant'.
    Try not to tear apart his sharing that may have an inconsistency in there that rubs at you...use the core message if it helps in any way for YOU to move forward and help the overall happenings unfolding on Mother Earth.

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    Hey Jim -- slow down a little.

    Too much for people to read and absorb and understand all at once. *I* have not even read everything you've written the last week. Other members will not log on for several days, and then see such an overwhelm of information that they will just skip over it. You know how it works!

    I have one question for you. (For now...)

    What do you mean by this?

    Quote This earth belongs to royalty first
    I might have something to say, but will wait for your clarification. What do you mean by 'belongs'? What is the 'royalty' you refer to? Who are they and where are they from? What is their function? Whose side are they on?

    Learning point: be really clear and precise and exact about what you write, always bearing in mind what others may assume or interpret --- rightly or wrongly. Enigmatic, dramatic, sweeping one-liners aren't always helpful. Be prepared to pause and explain fully. Don't bewilder, mystify or overwhelm your readers, or else you may lose them.
    in the last war that government up there decided to trap all the OT's and this is on the free being tape .... he says there is no ot's up there now and in their records it shows that the power of any system didn't depend on how many ships you had ,,, or troups or anything else ,,, the power of a system depended on how many of these OT's you had that can command whole armies and etc .. somewhere in there he says a space fleet could be knocked clear out to oblivion with one sweep of his hand you can get what is going on in this government system from the free being tape

    these OT's are royalty

    now I am not sure how this will work ... it seems they will be changing the entire planet into 4th dimension ,,,and time will be practically nothing ,... we will be able to move anywhere on the track ,,, this was done from the future and I am not sure exactly how that goes ... but on this forum .. I suddenly had a blow down ,,, and I found LRH in the future ... so that verified it for me ,, but I still haven't seen it ... so what I get out of this is they planed it this way to have a war ad have all the OT's trapped on prison planets ,,, but the truth is the OT's on this planet at this time are just another viewpoint of the same spirit the same OT's responsible for doing this are in the future but I don't know how far .. I think in time portal that hides them between future time that is really now and past time which is this now we are in,

    ok they had to trap all the OT's in that war ... because the governments would never take a chance to come down here and try to stop us and get trapped themselves ,,, the only beings that could stop it would be any of the OT's left here .. they can reach down and wipe out anything they wanted ,,, so the group that decided to salvage this place started scientology on base 2 ,.. and hid themselves in a time portal ,,, then sent OT's back to this time to open up scientology here and change the future ... all managed from the future somewhere ,,, so they are as-ising the future so the reptilians have no were to go because as far as I know most of them are only GE's and if we don't stop them now ... when the future comes we can stop them then ... but as far as I know all their undersea bases and underground bases have been destroyed ... the 2 underground cities in denver and near washington dc were taken out and they thought it was an earthquake ,, but there on the graph shows a sudden BAM and then attenuates ... an earthquake graph doesn't show the same graph ,,, it has wiggles before and after and after shocks .. so these graphs showed it must have been some kind of bomb but then there was no radiation and some think it was some kind of sonic pulse
    pinpointed inside the underground cities and what they say is it raised the air pressure inside up 20 times and turned everything into dust

    so to make it simple the OTs responsible for handling this salvation is on base 2 with viewpoints (thetans) there ,,, but those same spirits have also viewpoints here ... and I was suppose to open them up .
    they have bodies in the future and bodies here too .. from the same spirits ... the thetan is only eyes of a spirit ... but a spirit can have many eyes managing many bodies

    now the trick is here .. there is no such thing as time .. it is a creation to make a space time continuum .. space created in this instant space created in the next instant
    so those OT's are in the same now as we .. from the spiritual side we can talk to them in PT and that is what they did to LRH ... he died in 1937 and then metteyya from the future base 2 entered his body and they can operate much faster than we can on this slow time planet ... so they can evaluate all his sessions to check them and see what the result is and be a C/S to him ... get it?

    jim

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    get it?

    jim
    Nope, not at all. That came over to me as really confused. (For me, a bear of very little brain.)

    Advice: of course [in my opinion and perception] there are OTs out there in the spiritual universe. (Note to readers: OT = "Operating Thetan", which means a being with very significant abilities. The exact definition of OT can and does vary.)

    My personal reality is that there have been many highly able beings 'out there' for a long time, and quite a number of them have chosen to incarnate on this planet in order to help out. They have not been imprisoned here, as best I know. And the statement that OTs constitute a kind of royalty is so easily misunderstood that it may be best advised not to use that analogy.

    ('Royalty' implies status, ritual, control, hierarchy, dictatorship, abuse of privilege... etc etc. The lesson of history (and of the present day!) implies that that is not a very good comparison.)
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    Hey Jim -- slow down a little.

    Too much for people to read and absorb and understand all at once. *I* have not even read everything you've written the last week. Other members will not log on for several days, and then see such an overwhelm of information that they will just skip over it. You know how it works!

    I have one question for you. (For now...)

    What do you mean by this?

    Quote This earth belongs to royalty first
    I might have something to say, but will wait for your clarification. What do you mean by 'belongs'? What is the 'royalty' you refer to? Who are they and where are they from? What is their function? Whose side are they on?

    Learning point: be really clear and precise and exact about what you write, always bearing in mind what others may assume or interpret --- rightly or wrongly. Enigmatic, dramatic, sweeping one-liners aren't always helpful. Be prepared to pause and explain fully. Don't bewilder, mystify or overwhelm your readers, or else you may lose them.
    i was getting so many questions that I tried to answer all of them ... because it takes some time to do it .... and I felt that if I don't keep answering questions I will have a huge back log ... so ... maybe the q and a would be a place to send them ... most of what I needed to say is done ... I don't need to talk about the upper levels ... captain bill also has them ... but I am very glad you told me because no scientologist in scientology would validate or even believe I was doing it. ... as for future they never opened up the processing for other bodies .. it is time to do it now.... then we can all share the data we can get and other data from their other bodies .. and maybe this will wake me up enough to use telepathy with the ships up there if they come down ... I am a high official in the government up there ... so i can be the spokesman for the planet .. so we can remove the rest of the cabal ... I am protected ... several times I almost killed myself on a motorcycle here and people immediately took action to take care of me but I just wanted to go home and they refused to let me go home and took me to the hospital and i heal in amazingly fast rates ....they put 7 stitches over my right eye.. it was as if someone was managing them and they wouldn't let me get on the motorcycle to go home
    the other thing is this I know I have much more abilities than has been given to captain bill that is not opened up yet ... if I need them they will be opened up ... example: .. one time I was hitch hiking to san fransisco and I stopped and went into a bar some pretty girls were there and I didn't have a place to stay .. they took me to a place where they were building houses ... they came the next day and I was waking up and got this idea about a certain flow I could run on my body and I pulled it down to my neck ... the girls came in and looked shocked ... I said, "what's wrong?"
    they said, "your head is gone." ..
    I said, "oh I know what this is ." and i moved it down to my waist .. and they said they couldn't see me from waist up ...
    these things turn on and surprise me all the time ..

    jim
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    Quote but as far as I know all their undersea bases and underground bases have been destroyed
    Quote it seems they will be changing the entire planet into 4th dimension
    And -- an addition to my post #69 above -- references to the idea of the underground bases being destroyed (an alternative media myth promoted by David Wilcock and others) are almost certainly spurious, as are (in my view) any references to the Earth 'changing into' the 4D.

    In my view, Jim, you may be confusing your well-earned and subjectively very real session data and intuitive information with alternative media mythology. It's important to differentiate the two. There's a LOT of nonsense reported out there which way too many people believe. Much of it is delusory.

    Having said that -- it IS real to me that future timelines already exist in some 'actual' form, and that there are efforts to sway us or steer us from one to another (etc). I have personal experience of this, in Ron's Org sessions as recently as a couple of years ago. The details are so unbelievable that I would be reluctant to post them here.

    But there seems to me certainly much more to the idea of 'real' future timelines than meets the eye. Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon also stated as much, explaining that there is a veritable tangle of timelines at the moment and that efforts to untangle or repair them (by both humans and ETs) have all just made the matter worse. That also felt extremely real to me.
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    Quote but as far as I know all their undersea bases and underground bases have been destroyed
    Quote it seems they will be changing the entire planet into 4th dimension
    And -- an addition to my post #69 above -- references to the idea of the underground bases being destroyed (an alternative media myth promoted by David Wilcock and others) are almost certainly spurious, as are (in my view) any references to the Earth 'changing into' the 4D.

    In my view, Jim, you may be confusing your well-earned and subjectively very real session data and intuitive information with alternative media mythology. It's important to differentiate the two. There's a LOT of nonsense reported out there which way too many people believe. Much of it is delusory.

    Having said that -- it IS real to me that future timelines already exist in some 'actual' form, and that there are efforts to sway us or steer us from one to another (etc). I have personal experience of this, in Ron's Org sessions as recently as a couple of years ago. The details are so unbelievable that I would be reluctant to post them here.

    But there seems to me certainly much more to the idea of 'real' future timelines than meets the eye. Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon also stated as much, explaining that there is a veritable tangle of timelines at the moment and that efforts to untangle or repair them (by both humans and ETs) have all just made the matter worse. That also felt extremely real to me.
    ok let's clean me up on this

    ...

    they don't know how to untangle them... I know how to untangle them ... it is the same idea of being 3 feet behind your head .. a spirit can heal his body ... ok go one level back ... get to the spirit being and be three feet behind your viewpoints and you can repair it

    jim
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    example: .. one time I was hitch hiking to san fransisco and I stopped and went into a bar some pretty girls were there and I didn't have a place to stay .. they took me to a place where they were building houses ... they came the next day and I was waking up and got this idea about a certain flow I could run on my body and I pulled it down to my neck ... the girls came in and looked shocked ... I said, "what's wrong ?"
    they said, "your head is gone." ..
    I said, "oh I know what this is ." and i moved it down to my waist .. and they said they couldn't see me from waist up ...
    these things turn on and surprise me all the time ..

    jim
    Fantastic story. I've heard similar, and I don't doubt it at all.

    Another person I know, who has done the entire 'Church' Bridge and also the Ron's Org Bridge -- and more processes of his own -- told me that he was once auditing someone else, and while running certain processes this person told him that he completely disappeared for a short while.

    These phenomena have occurred throughout the ages, of course, and are well-reported in mystic literature.

    Read "WITH MYSTICS AND MAGICIANS IN TIBET" by Alexandra David-Neel, for instance (also sometimes called "Magic and Mystery in Tibet" -- it was translated from the original French). That's full of these kinds of accounts, all witnessed in person by the author at the turn of the last century.

    (Download the book here as a PDF -- highly recommended! http://projectavalon.net/With_Mystic...s_in_Tibet.pdf)
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    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    get it?

    jim
    Nope, not at all. That came over to me as really confused. (For me, a bear of very little brain.)

    Advice: of course [in my opinion and perception] there are OTs out there in the spiritual universe. (Note to readers: OT = "Operating Thetan", which means a being with very significant abilities. The exact definition of OT can and does vary.)

    My personal reality is that there have been many highly able beings 'out there' for a long time, and quite a number of them have chosen to incarnate on this planet in order to help out. They have not been imprisoned here, as best I know. And the statement that OTs constitute a kind of royalty is so easily misunderstood that it may be best advised not to use that analogy.

    ('Royalty' implies status, ritual, control, hierarchy, dictatorship, abuse of privilege... etc etc. The lesson of history (and of the present day!) implies that that is not a very good comparison.)
    ok I got it ...

    jim

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    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    example: .. one time I was hitch hiking to san fransisco and I stopped and went into a bar some pretty girls were there and I didn't have a place to stay .. they took me to a place where they were building houses ... they came the next day and I was waking up and got this idea about a certain flow I could run on my body and I pulled it down to my neck ... the girls came in and looked shocked ... I said, "what's wrong ?"
    they said, "your head is gone." ..
    I said, "oh I know what this is ." and i moved it down to my waist .. and they said they couldn't see me from waist up ...
    these things turn on and surprise me all the time ..

    jim
    Fantastic story. I've heard similar, and I don't doubt it at all.

    Another person I know, who has done the entire 'Church' Bridge and also the Ron's Org Bridge -- and more processes of his own -- told me that he was once auditing someone else, and while running certain processes this person told him that he completely disappeared for a short while.

    These phenomena have occurred throughout the ages, of course, and are well-reported in mystic literature.

    Read "WITH MYSTICS AND MAGICIANS IN TIBET" by Alexandra David-Neel, for instance (also sometimes called "Magic and Mystery in Tibet" -- it was translated from the original French.). That's full of these kinds of accounts, all witnessed in person by the author at the turn of the last century.

    (Download the book here as a PDF -- highly recommended! http://projectavalon.net/With_Mystic...s_in_Tibet.pdf)
    this is what I need ... I am kind of worried to get into the rest of this website ... because I need data that is true .. that deals with me .. not some imaginary think

    ...

    god now I know why I have been trying to get to tibet

    jim
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    About the "time" thing, many a sport celeb, like Wayne Gretzky, have mentioned in passing that as soon as they step into the rink or whatever game they are playing; everything starts going in slow motion, much like Neo dodging bullets in the "Matrix" movie. (BTW, the "Matrix" is the physical universe of a planet run by bodies in pawn... "dreaming" their life in another body)

    Of course, these sport celebs exhibiting some remaining OT abilities get trapped further with admiration, fame and wealth... project "Talent" in disguise?

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    this is what I need ... I am kind of worried to get into the rest of this website ... because I need data that is true .. that deals with me .. not some imaginary think

    ...

    god now I know why I have been trying to get to tibet

    jim


    ok some of this data comes from the websites .. the rest comes from me

    I have no way to verify the websites data

    but I feel pretty sure of the data coming from me

    jim
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    OK, this is a liitle off point......but, really - what are you trying to teach here? I am curious about the orjginal book on Dianetics because i am intersted in psychological healing and freedom from the effects of trauma.

    I worked with two different therepists during my healing journey, and believe that a great part of the healing i experienced was because of their love and compassion. The open-hearted care and concern went far in helping me learn again to trust another. The second therepist used a technique called EMDR which helps desensitise tramatic memories.

    After one session, on the pre-verbal level I experienced a shift in consiousness remembering what it was like, as a baby to love my experience of the world around me. The first meal I had after that session was amazing! Food tasted sooo good - the texture felt so sensous and wonderful in my mouth. So I can understand how a powerful auditing session could change your conciousness. And many, many powerful sessions ! Wow! The possibilities!


    My objective in healing is to open my heart, connect with those I love, have compassion for all life, expand and move closer to God-conciousness.

    Like the Buddist say...May All Be Loved - May All Be Cared For - May All Be Free From Suffering

    I just can't find amything in these Scientology threads which i've read over the last few days that i want to emulate. It seems like all those super audited scientologists would be amazing human beings after all that clearing / healing. I just don't see evidence of that. To be honest - jim sounds like a bi-polar person in a manic phase. And I know a couple people who are bi-polar, and have witnessed much of their behavior over the years.

    I am curious as to other peoples reaction to these thoughts.

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    About the "time" thing, many a sport celeb, like Wayne Gretzky, have mentioned in passing that as soon as they step into the rink or whatever game they are playing; everything starts going in slow motion, much like Neo dodging bullets in the "Matrix" movie.
    Yes -- and other phenomena, too. Cricketers (think baseball!) -- when in the 'zone' -- report that the small ball seems as large as a basketball, and is moving really slowly (even when bowled at 90 mph!).

    Record-breaking long-jumper Bob Beamon, who almost jumped out of the pit at the Mexico Olympics in 1968, said that he seemed to be "floating forever". Indeed, if you watch the footage carefully, he does seem to be levitating for a moment.

    The same can [often] be said for basketball legend Michael Jordan -- and also the great dancer Nijinski from 100 years ago, who was always described as "hanging in the air endlessly". (Sadly, no film footage now remains of him.)
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    example: .. one time I was hitch hiking to san fransisco and I stopped and went into a bar some pretty girls were there and I didn't have a place to stay .. they took me to a place where they were building houses ... they came the next day and I was waking up and got this idea about a certain flow I could run on my body and I pulled it down to my neck ... the girls came in and looked shocked ... I said, "what's wrong ?"
    they said, "your head is gone." ..
    I said, "oh I know what this is ." and i moved it down to my waste .. and they said they couldn't see me from waste up ...
    these things turn on and surprise me all the time ..

    jim
    Fantastic story. I've heard similar, and I don't doubt it at all.

    Another person I know, who has done the entire 'Church' Bridge and also the Ron's Org Bridge -- and more processes of his own -- told me that he was once auditing someone else, and while running certain processes this person told him that he completely disappeared for a short while.

    These phenomena have occurred throughout the ages, of course, and are well-reported in mystic literature.

    Read "WITH MYSTICS AND MAGICIANS IN TIBET" by Alexandra David-Neel, for instance (also sometimes called "Magic and Mystery in Tibet" -- it was translated from the original French). That's full of these kinds of accounts, all witnessed in person by the author at the turn of the last century.

    (Download the book here as a PDF -- highly recommended! http://projectavalon.net/With_Mystic...s_in_Tibet.pdf)
    ok let's drop all the 4 d stuff and go to the timelines

    that should fix it up a bit

    jim

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    you help me dead agent these other viewpoints data ,.. the timeline data comes from me dead agent means that if you were a spy or something that gave disinformation .. you put out the truth about him and he becomes a dead agent ... no one will believe him anymore

    jim

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