Spirituality, need for fear.

[kreagle]

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)
Hello friends.
This text has not the slightest pretension to impose anything, it's just a thought that took me way today afternoon.
So it's a personal perception that I would like to discuss because I think many of you more enlightened on this subject than I do.
I realize now that in many situations, for example, real communities, online communities, tv shows and media in general, that the matter in spirituality is taking much attention.
It appears to be intrinsic, the spiritual relationship with saving in most cases.
And the fear of not salvation, not part of the herd.
Regardless of religion or who believes individually, the fear of not being part of the class chosen seems to be most often present.
If this reasoning is valid, then we have to search for spirituality by fear in many people.
Then there is the fear, the opposite of love as fuel this engine running in search of spirituality.
I do not know if fear as starter, would be the one responsible for so many people realize fundamentalist, radical and uncompromising when it comes to faith in God.
But it seems to me plausible that it is an important ingredient in this universe, because intolerance, arrogance, selfishness, lack of empathy and other similar nouns are derived from the same negative force of fear.
Do not forget that fear is a fundamental tool, key Matrix control.
So far it is valid to search for spirituality by fear?
 
Love without fear for all.
Wander Brazilian.

naste.de.lumina,


I have always been convinced that mainstream Christianity's perception of the 'fear of the Lord' has been grossly skewed by a combination of 'ignorance,....and, of course, satanic design, also!' While 'fear', ( ie. to be 'afraid of'), certainly has it's merits, and is to be considered and administered,....when applicable,....the 'proper application' of this religious 'catch phrase' should be as to 'fear', ( ie. have revered 'respect' for), the Lord!


I do NOT serve the Lord because I 'fear', ( am 'afraid' of), Him,......but rather, I serve the Lord because I 'fear', ( have Divine 'respect'), for Him! There is a 'massive' difference between these 'two' definitions, in correlation to our outlook on how we actually view God,....and exactly 'how' He wants us to view, ( and serve), Him!


If one 'attempts' to serve the Lord because of 'fear', ( afraid, or scared to death of the consequences), they are going to be continually bombarded with undue condemnations,...live a 'defeated spiritual existence',....and ultimately loose out on their quest for Truth. Pure love,.....God's love,....has 'no room' for this type of 'fear' and those who endeavor to 'scare individuals into serving God' are either being motivated 'satanically,...or....simply ignorant' of what they are doing.

1 John 4:18 (KJV)

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

The 'fear of the Lord' mantra should 'always' be associated with our Divine respect for Him and His Word. A 'follower of Christ' should adopt the view that,....."I divinely respect You Lord,...so much,... that I fully believe in You,...and Your Word,... to the point that I unconditionally accept Your directives for my life!"


Once we attain this proper view of this Christian 'catch phrase',...FEAR,....we are then well on our way to a victorious Christian experience, my friends!


Your brother, friend, and servant,.......kreagle

[naste.de.lumina]

Posted by kreagle (here)
naste.de.lumina,


I have always been convinced that mainstream Christianity's perception of the 'fear of the Lord' has been grossly skewed by a combination of 'ignorance,....and, of course, satanic design, also!' While 'fear', ( ie. to be 'afraid of'), certainly has it's merits, and is to be considered and administered,....when applicable,....the 'proper application' of this religious 'catch phrase' should be as to 'fear', ( ie. have revered 'respect' for), the Lord!


I do NOT serve the Lord because I 'fear', ( am 'afraid' of), Him,......but rather, I serve the Lord because I 'fear', ( have Divine 'respect'), for Him! There is a 'massive' difference between these 'two' definitions, in correlation to our outlook on how we actually view God,....and exactly 'how' He wants us to view, ( and serve), Him!


If one 'attempts' to serve the Lord because of 'fear', ( afraid, or scared to death of the consequences), they are going to be continually bombarded with undue condemnations,...live a 'defeated spiritual existence',....and ultimately loose out on their quest for Truth. Pure love,.....God's love,....has 'no room' for this type of 'fear' and those who endeavor to 'scare individuals into serving God' are either being motivated 'satanically,...or....simply ignorant' of what they are doing.

1 John 4:18 (KJV)

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

The 'fear of the Lord' mantra should 'always' be associated with our Divine respect for Him and His Word. A 'follower of Christ' should adopt the view that,....."I divinely respect You Lord,...so much,... that I fully believe in You,...and Your Word,... to the point that I unconditionally accept Your directives for my life!"


Once we attain this proper view of this Christian 'catch phrase',...FEAR,....we are then well on our way to a victorious Christian experience, my friends!


Your brother, friend, and servant,.......kreagle

ohhh very good.
We have similar perceptions, dear brother travel kreagle .
Thanks for sharing.

[Energy Alchemist]

My guidance says, “Spiritual knowledge brings the Joy of understanding, this Joy counteracts the Fear of uncertainty.” Or my reaction to that was “The human mind builds mountains out of molehills of fear.”

Being unsure of spiritual conviction about a God/Creator/I AM/Spirit is a common point to pass on this path of life/lives. Many organized religions would have us believe theirs is the only way to find God while most are more interested in our membership. If Mastery is the spiritual goal then this search is an individual one since we are all different and needing our own unique lesson plan. Our journey can and often will be aided by others along the way to reflect back to us what we are looking for next. The common aspect of the journey of Mastery is that we will all learn the same lessons by the time we’re complete but having found them in different places.

Fear is not knowing the truth. As St. Germain puts it FEAR is False Evidence Appearing Real. The freedom from fear comes in knowledge, although this knowledge is not seen until it's time to understand for each on our journey. That said, Truth is subjective, one persons truth can and may well be rejected by others not having had the same experiences.

We live in Duality, we have the Light balanced by the Dark in this three dimensional world. They appear as equal forces to us from our limited perspective. Fear is used by those in places of power to motivate others into taking the actions they want them to. Drama is a close second as a tool for control of others. Knowledge is truth, in whatever form that manifest itself in for each individual. Knowledge of the real reality is freedom from the illusion of duality.

[greybeard]

I always took "Fear of the Lord" to be a miss translation.
Respect for the Lord seemed to me, even as a young child the way to go.
I never got that a loving God could be fearsome and yet there was no way I could prove my thoughts right, so from time to time I fell into the fear of hell and damnation through conditioning.
Thankfully common sense, rationality and at least a sense of being loved--
and looked after kept breaking through.
There is nothing to fear but the fearful thought.
Chris

[chocolate]

The current state of existence is a material one, and if we assume for a moment, that we have been hardwired to survive as long as possible, than fearing death or not existing becomes easier to understand. Fear, as I see it, is a prerequisite for this life, and only those who know fear well, who know where it springs from and how deep it can go, could overcome it. Only when you feel physical life so painful both physically and mentally (I, for some reason do not like much the word spirituality) to choose to end it, in whatever form comes to your mind, only then you can realize there are more painful things than death, and than you are free from that fear of death.

Once I read that the greatest angels (meaning Archangels and the like around God(s) ) are the ones who had fallen at first, because they know both and they have chosen (have made a conscious choice!) to be in the light...

It is understandable that sometimes fear can lead to a search for some answers, called sometimes spirituality. Before that I remember it being called religion? I get confused with all those colorful words constantly having a mind that operates with visuals...

Today everything is used to get closer to you, to control you or to benefit from you in a material way. But that, I think, is also part of the game. What is important ,I think, is to know that not everything is what it seems, and to constantly move one step further, being able to discard what has proven invalid, and embrace what has proven, in your own life, as true and valid.

"the truth will set you free" and "by their fruits you will know them"

"Fear not" as Yoda would say...

[Energy Alchemist]

Chris, I agree with fear being out of place for a loving God, it’s also out of place in a spiritual life. I see the concept of fearing God having come as a result of humans not being able to rationalize the concept of a loving God. Our misunderstanding of the term, as it is above so it is below also added to the misconception of God. Man would read this then look around seeing the fighting and killing going on reversing this to read, as below so it is above. We fight and kill, we have vengeful rulers waging wars therefore God does too. So God has mighty wars in Heaven and he’ll get you if you displease him. These are not the actions of the God I’ve come to know as a channeler.

How would mankind be able to understand a loving God knowing only unconditional love for us. For humans to see this it would require them to have had the experience to rationalize it from. Metaphors were used to relate concepts to those without the direct experience although these are many times taken too literally missing the point of the lesson completely.

All of the myths repeated for hundreds of years became accepted as truth without questioning the spiritual logic.