CBC under attack from a new front ...help needed.

[Spellbound]

Just wait until the TV rights to the Saturday night hockey games are up for bid next. Rogers and Sportsnet will put in very lucrative bids now that they own MLSE (and thus the Leafs). Hockey Night In Canada has been a staple for CBC Saturday nights for decades and without it they could easily fall destitute. Could very well happen.

Dave - Toronto

[chancy]

[QUOTE=Kiforall
If CBC is anything like the BBC in the UK, which from reading Wikipedia seems likely, you'd be quite right to wave bye bye.
It is owned by The Crown 'The Crown is a corporation sole that, in the Commonwealth realms and any of its provincial or state sub-divisions, represents the legal embodiment of executive, legislative, or judicial governance.'
Canada is ruled by the same Monarch as the UK, both broadcasting companies are traceable back to her, is that right?[/QUOTE]

Hello Kiforall: Yes, the cbc is exactly like the bbc. The cbc is a crown corporation and sucks billions of tax dollars a year to run. Everyone except myself sees that they are useless. In fact, alot of Canada doesn't even get cbc which is suppose to be for all Canadians. Unfortunately the cbc doesn't see it that way. As you most of the people who are on this thread love cbc and will do anything to keep them even if they don't get to watch cbc. You can get it if you have cable or in a large city in Canada. Canada went from analog to digital and cbc got a special waver ( because they are a crown corporation) to not go digital for another year or 2. It was promised that everyone would get cbc when they finally went digital.
Well now millions of people don't get cbc in Canada because cbc wanted to save 10 million dollars a year. I don't have a problem with saving money. I have a problem with a sum of 2 billion or more goes to cbc every year and it's from the tax payer. We just don't get to see it unless we buy cable or satellite.
This is why it should be shut down no matter who is in power as the government of Canada.
Have a great day Kiforall
chancy

[chancy]

Posted by Spellbound (here)
Just wait until the TV rights to the Saturday night hockey games are up for bid next. Rogers and Sportsnet will put in very lucrative bids now that they own MLSE (and thus the Leafs). Hockey Night In Canada has been a staple for CBC Saturday nights for decades and without it they could easily fall destitute. Could very well happen.
Dave - Toronto

Hello Spellbound ( Dave ): Since millions of people don't get cbc in Canada anymore it's time they shut down and get a real job instead of sucking at the trough for a few billion from the government each year. The cbc is always wining about tough times. Maybe it's time to give the couple of billion dollars back to the people each year and let networks do their job and provide programming without cash from the government. IF the cbc was funded by themselves we wouldn't be having this conversation BUT they get at least a 2 billion a year operating budget from the federal government.
If you want to watch saturday night hockey it would still be on just not on cbc. ( Even the song for saturday night hockey is no longer viable. ) It would be costing taxpayers 2 billion plus a year for something millions of us no longer get. The cbc is no longer Canadian. It's a white elephant!
Time to shut it down
chancy

[DeDukshyn]

Hi Kiforall,

Again, this isn't about saving the CBC from going away. It's about preventing our public broadcast from becoming an extension of the Harper government, to be used for his purposes. Just as he wants a Rupert Murdoch to start a "Fox news North" style stations on taxpayers money to be used for the same purpose -- that way he has control of both liberal and conservative media platforms.

[chancy]

Attention DeDukshyn:
I am not sure if you are reading peoples post correctly. You just answered Kiforall in regards to everyone wanting to "save the cbc" Kiforall never said anything about "saving the cbc" He said as I did to get rid of the cbc since it's a crown corporation.
This thread has started out of an alliance with a group that doesn't want harper's government to mess with the cbc. The thing you are missing DeDukshyn is that since it's a crown corporation any government in power can mess with cbc. This is why myself and others who have posted on your thread have said to get rid of the cbc and save at least 2 billion a year in taxpayers cash. The cbc is a white elephant. It can't make it without taxpayers dollars. As you must know millions of Canadians don't even get the cbc anymore.
If you are in 100 Mile House you must get it by cable because with not a million people there it would have been axed like everywhere else in Canada where the population doesn't exceed a million taxpayers. If you want to pay for it fine but people like myself pay way to much tax to not get it for free.
chancy

[DeDukshyn]

Another fine artcle from the CBC, picked up by someone not in Canada ... Watch for them, there are scores already posted, and more keep coming. Let's compare the quality of this programming to say .. Fox News -- the new coming tax dollar addition / replacement for the CBC that is expected to run on Tax dollars, endorsed by Harper.

Sink the CBC and pay for "Fox news North"? ... Not a chance in hell ... that's even worse.

Besides, I don't see anyway, you (Chancy) me, or anyone else can make the CBC go away -- that is not going to happen, there is no pettion for it, and you've offered nothing but bitterness toward not getting the CBC anymore (slightly ironically). ... let's keep our reactions to the current situation at hand and stop derailing the thread. Feel free, Chancy, to start your own thread with your concerns about the CBC to further your conversations with other like minded members or I'll request to a mod to split the thread. Thanks.

In the mean time, we can all continue to find productions and articles by the CBC on Avalon, as many seem to be quite aligned with avalonians endeavours and concerns.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post671777

[chancy]

DeDukshyn:
You sound like my 2 year old! He doesn't read so he doesn't understand very much! How on the nice planet we live on am I derailing your thread? I am one of the few that are actually taking the time to post on it as you probably haven't noticed!
From what I have seen and read there is NO ATTACK on the cbc. Since you probably haven't read the posts on your thread you probably didn't read that the cbc is a CROWN CORPORATION in which whoever is the prime minister can do whatever he wants with it since the prime minister at any given time is completely in charge of every crown corporation in Canada. Therefore he can mess with it. Shut it up. Shut it down or anything else the prime minister of the day wants to do.
DeDukshyn you are just blowing hot air and haven't read the printed word on your thread.
Since you want to be like my 2 year old and split the thread feel free because I won't be posting again to YOUR THREAD! It appears that you aren't reading the posts and therefore your thread has gone the way of the gonedow bird.
As I said in another post I bet you have NEVER EVER tried to talk directly to the cbc and therefore don't know what the cbc is really like. I have and know that they may never be shut down in Canada but that doesn't mean they should be allowed the freebies from the taxpayers of Canada to the tune of 2 billion or more annually.
Yes, I would like to see cbc on tv since they are the crown corporation for everyone in Canada BUT alas I really haven't missed them. ( Not upset just P**ssEd O** that they are so arrogant to the taxpayers like maybe you and definitely me and everyone else.
Good luck with the thread DeDukshyn! This is getting to be a loop on the digital recorder. A BIG waste of time.

PS Unless Paul or any of the other people that run this website kick me off which could be a possibility for telling the truth then I will continue to portray my thoughts and opinions on any subject that I have an inkling to. At least I will be in great company with all my predecessors who have voiced their opinions in which I enjoyed extremely over the past years that have gone on to greatness!
chancy

[DeDukshyn]

You must have huge amounts of time to waste ... as you keep coming back here -- heck you've posted more on this thread than I have

[Flash]

I found this and loved it, it describes very well the op topic and opinion

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You won’t recognize Canada when I get through with it.”

~Stephen Harper

[DeDukshyn]

Thanks for that flash.

<rant>

A few responders on this thread have no clue what is happening to their country and they can keep their ostrich heads in the sand for all I care.

Bill C-60 isn't about saving the CBC, tanking the CBC (it's not going away - that is not an option we are presented with).

The option we are being presented with is install Bill C-60 so that Harper can have a heavier hand in all the CBC's programming, and thus more power to assert propaganda, or not install it.

That is what this thread is about, and that is all the petition is about -- not anything to do with needing a "handout" or any of the other nonsense some others were trying to change the meaning to.

The petition is to stop C-60. After that -we can work on getting the wages more realistic for the upper management of the CBC and ensure we aren't paying them too excessively (which I am sure we are)., but again that's a different story and a different thread altogether if someone wants to start one on THAT topic -- feel free.

It also appears that a few don't understand exactly what a "crown" corporation's relationship is supposed to be to the government.

Bill c-60 seeks to change that for the CBC, so Harper CAN get his hands dirty.

So the choices are:

Stop Bill c-60, or let Bill C-60 through. Neither choice will bring the CBC to your rabbit ears (who uses those anyway?), neither choice will make the CBC go away at all. Neither choice will change the amount of subsidies to the CBC.

The choice will will determine if CBC becomes controlled by "The Harper Government" or not.

Again if one thinks that he has full control because the CBC is a "crown" corporation -- look into this relationship a little better, there are laws that are in place to this regard, and the laws that will be affected by bill c-60.

</endrant>

"You won’t recognize Canada when I get through with it.” also quoted in link below.

Good article on the subject here: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/tim-kni...b_3254878.html