Plants won't grow near Wi-Fi router.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
Hi I'm wondering if anyone knows how it works in Australia. My sister in Canada tells me that she needs to have wifi on to get the internet on her ph (at home or out in town). But here is Australia the internet comes through the ph networks so wifi can be off (unless one chooses to access internet via wifi). I know the phones themselves are dangerous, but my understanding is that having wifi on makes it worse. So does that mean that in Australia we are constantly bombarded with waves (more than other places)? Or less because we don't need wifi?

Thanks

How one gets Internet to one's house, and whether a smart cell phone requires wi-fi to get the Internet are two different things. The dangers are a third thing .

Roughly speaking, there are longer distance, and shorter (as in less than say 100 feet) distance ways to connect to the Internet. The two common shorter ways are (1) wi-fi and (2) ethernet cables connected directly to a local network modem. The common longer ways include some of the higher bandwidth (such as 3G and 4G) cell phone networks, cable (such as also used for TV), and DSL (over the phone lines.) I don't know if many people use Internet much over a 2G cell phone network (1990's tech) but it would be painfully slow if they did.

Smart cell phones don't use ethernet cables (that would be a silly nuisance for a portable device). They might connect to the Internet either (1) via a wi-fi connection, which then connects to one of the longer ways, or (2) directly when a higher bandwidth (3G or 4G) cell phone network is available.

Now I suppose that it could be that your sister in Canada has to use a wi-fi connection because her cell phone only has that capability, but much more likely she has to use a wi-fi connection because the higher bandwidth 3G and 4G cell phone networks are not yet built out where she lives. If it is the later, that's a slight point in her favor, when she turns her wi-fi off, because then she has neither the higher bandwidth cell phone networks nor a wi-fi radiating on her. When she turns her wi-fi base station on, she starts getting more radiation, depending on how close she is to it, and when she turns her cell phone one for either a call or for the Internet via that wi-fi, she gets even more radiation, close to her body. At least she has a fair bit of control over how much radiation she gets (if high bandwidth cell phone service is not built out around her.)

In your case in Australia, I doubt that Internet for a smart cell phone comes through your phone network (what I call DSL), unless you also use wi-fi to connect to that DSL phone network. If you have a smart cell phone with Internet access, then I would guess that 3G or 4G cell phone service is built out around where you live, and your cell phone is using that directly. If that means that your normally don't have wi-fi running where you live, but your sister normally has wi-fi turned on, then that part's a plus for you when you are not using your cell phone and it's not close to you. But when you do use the Internet over your cell phone, then that's probably worse for you, as your cell phone probably has to transmit at higher power to reach the nearest telephone company's cell phone antenna than your sister's cell phone has to transmit to reach her wi-fi base station.

Sorry ... I probably confused the heck out of anyone who tried to read this .

[enfoldedblue]

Thanks so much Paul! It made sense....in fact I was reading it on my ph and slowly pushed it away as I got to the end . I wish I didn't need to use it at all...but circumstances make it difficult to avoid.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
Thanks so much Paul! It made sense....in fact I was reading it on my ph and slowly pushed it away as I got to the end . I wish I didn't need to use it at all...but circumstances make it difficult to avoid.

Thanks - glad it helped.

[PurpleLama]

It does make me thankful that phone reception is spotty at best inside my house.

[Operator]

To great dismay of my daughters I banned WiFi from the house almost 2 years ago. Not only is it healthier to be without it, they
are also distracted all the time by being on their WiFi connected cellphones. In fact we banned internet from their rooms completely.
I have multiple wired internet connections in one room ... so when you're on your computer there it will help you focus on doing what
you need to do on internet instead of lingering around a computer for hours.

I use my cellphone as alarm clock too but I switch it to airplane mode before I go to sleep and then still it's more than 10 feet away.

Fortunately these things are still under our own control ...

[RMorgan]

Posted by leavesoftrees (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
If you can, try turning off your house´s main electricity switch before going to sleep, like I do. I assure you will notice a clear improvement in your sleep quality.

Cheers,

Raf.

Hi Raf

If you turn your mains power off, what about your refrigeration for your food etc.?

Hey brother,

We have three different breakers/switches here; One goes for most part of the home, another goes to the kitchen/service and another to my home-office/workshop.

Raf.

[bruno dante]

I have a cellular disorder and am very sensitive to various influences, wireless technology being a major one.

Example: if I spend more than say, a half hr on a laptop or cell phone, my brain speed slows to a crawl and I begin to feel very emotionally flat.

Initially I refused to believe this to be the culprit, but after a while it became undeniable. Even a cell phone close to my bed at night effects my well being (Raf is right!). I'll awake (if I sleep at all) feeling especially groggy and very mentally muddy. And it'll take the entire day to regain my equilibrium.

Its especially disconcerting to me because I can see how a relatively healthy person could walk around and be seemingly unaffected, not knowing or believing in the slow insidious harm being done to them.

I think in the very near future there is going to be an explosion of new illness (or just an exponential leap in a current one, like cancer for example) that will eventually be incontrovertibly linked to wireless tech.

[RMorgan]

Posted by bruno dante (here)
I have a cellular disorder and am very sensitive to various influences, wireless technology being a major one.

Example: if I spend more than say, a half hr on a laptop or cell phone, my brain speed slows to a crawl and I begin to feel very emotionally flat.

Initially I refused to believe this to be the culprit, but after a while it became undeniable. Even a cell phone close to my bed at night effects my well being (Raf is right!). I'll awake (if I sleep at all) feeling especially groggy and very mentally muddy. And it'll take the entire day to regain my equilibrium.

Its especially disconcerting to me because I can see how a relatively healthy person could walk around and be seemingly unaffected, not knowing or believing in the slow insidious harm being done to them.

I think in the very near future there is going to be an explosion of new illness (or just an exponential leap in a current one, like cancer for example) that will eventually be incontrovertibly linked to wireless tech.

Hey mate,

Yes, I agree with you.

In the documentary posted in the OP, they show an impressive correlation between the wireless technology boom and the dramatic reduction and even disappearance of some animal species, mostly birds and insects which are known to use Earth´s magnetic fields for orientation, bees being the most important of them for the preservation of life in this planet.

Personally, I was able to observe that, since the popularization of wireless internet in my country, most precisely in my neighborhood, a beautiful bird species that was truly abundant around here, the "bem-te-vi" simply vanished. I rarely see one of them lately. I have tried to find other possible reasons for its disappearance, but nothing had changed much besides the large scale introduction of wifi internet; The private wireless internet spots had jumped from just a couple to hundreds, only around my neighborhood.

Although it´s not yet clear how humans make use of Earth´s natural magnetic field besides physical orientation and how it influences our health, I´m sure that messing with it will not bring positive results for our species, directly or indirectly.

This whole technology was introduce without making proper scientific studies to analyze its possible consequences. As usual, we´ve been treated like guinea-pigs for the big corporations.

Nowadays, there´s indisputable data proving that people who do live in close proximity to cell phone masts are much more prone to develop cancers than people who don´t. All these studies haven´t stopped those crooks from erecting those masts everywhere.

Anyway, besides the real physical risks that such technology poses to our health, I´m even more worried about the spiritual/energetic risks, which are much more subtle and intangible, therefore always left out of scientific studies for the lack of proper tools to measure and evaluate them.

Raf.

[bruno dante]

hey Raf,

I won't pretend to be an expert on the earth's magnetic field, but I know it's there for a reason. And like you I am.very concerned.

In his book "know your magnetic field" the great mid 20th century healer Bill Gray claimed to derive all his healing power from the "ring" (vanallen belts) and said: everything comes from the ring, all thoughts and inventions are taken off the ring and all the ancient knowledge is available to all who learn to listen"

I write that knowing full well how woo-woo it sounds, but after a little reading and research I'm thoroughly convinced that the significance of the earth's magnetic fields go far beyond what we read in our science books.

Much like an individual's magnetic field energizes them, so it likely is with the earth and her magnetic field. Considering this, the ramifications of its deterioration or distortion thru Wi-Fi or other means becomes disturbingly clear.

[enfoldedblue]

Just wondering if anyone knows more about orgonite? Does it really work. It seems it is just quartz crystals and metal shavings in resin. Seems hard to believe that this would work....but if it does I will certainly make some! I have not found anything definitive at all. Most of the praise comes from people who make it, and there are many who suggest it is a scam.

Anyone have anything to share on this?

Thanks

Posted by Eram (here)
Pretty alarming experiment, but nicely done indeed.

It is said that orgonite is capable of reducing and or neutralising the effects of wifi and cell phone radiation.
I have no personal experience with it (yet), but there are numerous people on this website (whom I trust) who use it and have felt and seen the benefits of it.
It might be worth a shot imo.

What is orgonite?

Orgonite is a resin/metal/crystal matrix that restores energetic balance to the environment by converting stagnant energy into dynamic energy. This self-driven substance works continuously to:

vitalise the atmosphere
neutralise electromagnetic radiation
recharge and improve the flavour of food and drinks
elevate your mood
purify water
relieve insomnia
promote plant growth and
boost your intuition

Why you need orgonite in your life

Your body responds on a cellular level to the radiation emitting from electrical and electronic equipment that you cannot see, touch, smell or perhaps feel (although more and more people are becoming sensitive to electromagnetic radiation). Various harmful biological effects occur when electropollution disrupts your natural energy levels, triggering stress responses that impair your body's natural ability to heal.

For example:

Cell walls harden, preventing nutrients from entering while locking in the entrapped toxins.
Irreparable DNA breaks occur.
Micronuclei, the diagnostic markers for cancer, proliferate.
The breakdown of the blood-brain barrier leads to possible inflammation and damage to the brain.
Normal nerve function is disrupted, creating the risk of neurodegenerative diseases.

In addition, emotionally charged events may have caused imbalances in your subtle energy system due to entrapped negative emotions. Being out of whack energetically has far-reaching effects on your personal well-being.

Orgonite to the rescue!

Research has shown that orgonite reverses degeneration and restores unimpeded energetic flow by transmuting DOR (Deadly Orgone) to POR (Positive Orgone) and thereby reinstates energetic balance. Think of orgonite as a vehicle that creates the ideal environment for life to thrive, be it animal, vegetable or mineral.

Suggested orgonite placement

As a personal bodyguard carry a piece such as pocket orgonite, a pendant or a keyring.

Place muffin-sized orgonite pucks at the outer corners of your home to create a protective orgone magick circle, and also in your flower beds and veggie garden.

Put another at your water main. This will energise not only your water supply but spread back to the neighbourhood supply as well, water being a great conductor of the orgone/etheric energy generated by orgonite.

Position yet another orgonite puck at your electrical distribution board to offer protection from the EMF radiation emanating from the wiring of your home, and to bring about more efficient electricity usage and cost savings.

As expected, all electronic and electrical equipment need orgonite items to neutralise the electropollution they create. Keep orgonite near computers, WiFi routers, cordless phones, TVs, microwave ovens, refrigerators and hair dryers, for instance.

Aim for at least one orgonite device in every room - on window sills, hanging on your walls or windows, in pot plants, on furniture.

Finally place orgonite under the driver's seat of your car, and another in your boot.

Once you have 'orgonised' your personal space, you may move further afield into your neighbourhood and city.

I have seen a youtube once about a guy who did an experiment with plants, wifi router and orgonite and this experiment seemed to indicate that plants grow much much better near wifi routers when orgonite is near them.
Can't find the youtube now of course

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6QFu6G1Xq7E

[Eram]

sorry, wrong thread. I moved it to to the "Neutralize cell/mobile phone radiation...scam? " thread.

hmm, I seem to have lost the whole post...


argh

edit:
Happily, Magical paul could still find the post some where, some how.
Thanks Paul.

[The Truth Is In There]

posted this elsewhere but it fits here too...


for me orgonite definitely works.

my bed is shielded against HF and LF energies. after i first installed the shield i noticed that although i slept better i became much more sensitive to cell phone radiation, to the point where i could sense it in my parents home who use a cordless phone (which imo is worse than a cell phone because the base station emits microwaves 24/7...it's like having a cell phone tower right in your home).

after i put an orgonite cone under my bed (grounded, inside the shielded area) sleep improved further (now i'm sleeping like a baby again, due to the increased melatonin levels) and the sensitivity to microwaves disappeared.

interesting side-note. there are people who have developed an extreme sensitivity to cell phone radiation, many of whom are forced to sleep/work/live in shielded areas. i believe they'd be able to reduce this extreme sensitivity through orgonite, like it happened to me after i put the orgonite cone under my bed.

[TargeT]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
Hi I'm wondering if anyone knows how it works in Australia. My sister in Canada tells me that she needs to have wifi on to get the internet on her ph (at home or out in town). But here is Australia the internet comes through the ph networks so wifi can be off (unless one chooses to access internet via wifi). I know the phones themselves are dangerous, but my understanding is that having wifi on makes it worse. So does that mean that in Australia we are constantly bombarded with waves (more than other places)? Or less because we don't need wifi?

Thanks

How one gets Internet to one's house, and whether a smart cell phone requires wi-fi to get the Internet are two different things. The dangers are a third thing .

Roughly speaking, there are longer distance, and shorter (as in less than say 100 feet) distance ways to connect to the Internet. The two common shorter ways are (1) wi-fi and (2) ethernet cables connected directly to a local network modem. The common longer ways include some of the higher bandwidth (such as 3G and 4G) cell phone networks, cable (such as also used for TV), and DSL (over the phone lines.) I don't know if many people use Internet much over a 2G cell phone network (1990's tech) but it would be painfully slow if they did..

There are several "long distance" wifi solutions out there for example in the VI I use a Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP) uses WiMax (IEEE 802.16) which is a new(ish) version of WiFi designed to provide coverage over a wider area than WiFi. You probably don't know about this because it's not really used in large city area's where the radio spectrum is saturated or where there's a large amount of buildings etc, because of signal blocking.




This stuff functions at 2ghz - 20ghz range (higly dependant on area, company etc etc etc...) these frequencies are SO FAR above our own 7.8(ish)hz frequency(schumann resonance) that I doubt they cause us much of an issue; there hasn't been any testing so I'd say keep these in mind, limit your exposure if you are experiencing effects from it (don't rule out the possibility of placebo) but really, I don't think these are an issue to a complex organism like the human body.

in fact, it could help in raising your vibrational frequency! (haha...)

Posted by leavesoftrees (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
If you can, try turning off your house´s main electricity switch before going to sleep, like I do. I assure you will notice a clear improvement in your sleep quality.

Cheers,

Raf.

Hi Raf

If you turn your mains power off, what about your refrigeration for your food etc.?

Your food will be fine for 24 to 48 hours (depending on how often you open the door) Trust me, I loose power all the time.

[Isserley]

Now I have a completely different story to tell.
In January my friend put the Bhut Jolokia seeds (the world's hottest chili pepper) on the wifi router for faster germination - because of the heat - they all germinated without any trouble.
How can we explain that? I also have lots of plants in my house as well as wifi and cellphones - they all grow normally - do we worry too much?

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by TargeT (here)
This stuff functions at 2ghz - 20ghz range (higly dependant on area, company etc etc etc...) these frequencies are SO FAR above our own 7.8(ish)hz frequency(schumann resonance) that I doubt they cause us much of an issue; there hasn't been any testing so I'd say keep these in mind, limit your exposure if you are experiencing effects from it (don't rule out the possibility of placebo) but really, I don't think these are an issue to a complex organism like the human body.

any kind of unnatural microwaves (well, even natural ones) can cause problems. they may not be obvious and it can take years for physical symptoms to appear but they do influence our bodies, and not just the physical ones.

also, it doesn't really matter how far above our own frequency these microwaves operate because they're pulsed, which is the main reason why they often cause problems in the first place.