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    Default Re: Massive Tornado Hits Moore, Oklahoma

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    All of the infrastructure should have been replaced with basements or storm shelters below ground, they are in tornado alley after all. Time for the people to make up their minds about global warming, regardless of how we got here, we are here. Time to prepare properly so they don't kill everybody in denial. I always wondered how come the walls and structures are not thicker now to tolerate the winds like in the `1800's and 1900's? they used the whole tree as a beam, where as the cheap building these days with "cellotech" fiber walls on every inch of a home, but the corners. Stapled, not nailed, and still using 2x4's when they should be using 4x4's against the winds. Basement structures are a must. Why aren't the mayor, Governor and representatives doing the right thing in the building codes of a tornado expected area. Either stop building in the area(which people won't) or reinforce them to withstand winds. I recommend Domed homes of super tough plastic wood and cement structures that are based 6ft in the ground with a basement and steel rebarb and slightly buried concrete floor of the home with cut out door for the basement. The concrete floor/ceiling should be under the dirt/foundation also because when the wind pulls, it will release when the house moves and the tornado will move off, and the people below can be safe.
    I've also noticed, where I live, a lot of new construction being made with the superstructure of wood and wood products, even multistory apartment buildings. Whatever happened to concrete and steal? Your building recommendations make sense to me. I wonder why the contracting industry seems to be going in the opposite direction? Hum??

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    Oh my ears and whiskers, how late it's getting!

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    Default Re: Massive Tornado Hits Moore, Oklahoma

    The average pay scale for Moore, Oklahoma is $57,500, so if Family Guy thinks that is poor people then I would like to know what they think is Middle Class income.

    http://www.payscale.com/research/US/...oore-OK/Salary

    It really gets tiresome how other americans or even people across the Earth all think that Oklahomans are poor white trash. Geeze!
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    Default Re: Massive Tornado Hits Moore, Oklahoma

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    The average pay scale for Moore, Oklahoma is $57,500, so if Family Guy thinks that is poor people then I would like to know what they think is Middle Class income.

    http://www.payscale.com/research/US/...oore-OK/Salary

    It really gets tiresome how other americans or even people across the Earth all think that Oklahomans are poor white trash. Geeze!

    More to the point - if this is an illustration of what is going to happen in plain sight - shouldn't Americans (and others) be outraged??? Couldn't this wake up a few of the unawake????
    Oh my ears and whiskers, how late it's getting!

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    Sabrina, it probably is true the tornados were created by man. Dutchsince even predicted it before it happened. But no matter what the source of this event is, there are still human beings that suffering because of it. That is what I have been focused on. Thank you for you contribution.

    I just wish the rest of the world viewed Oklahoma like it really is instead of thinking they are better than us.

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    Default Re: Massive Tornado Hits Moore, Oklahoma

    Quote Posted by EsmaEverheart (here)
    The average pay scale for Moore, Oklahoma is $57,500, so if Family Guy thinks that is poor people then I would like to know what they think is Middle Class income.

    http://www.payscale.com/research/US/...oore-OK/Salary

    It really gets tiresome how other americans or even people across the Earth all think that Oklahomans are poor white trash. Geeze!
    Your stats are wrong. 9% of the population make 57,0000 while 39% make around 32,000. This is lower middle class town. It reads like this:

    Years of Experience

    Less than 1 year
    9%
    1-4 years
    43%

    5-9 years
    26%
    10-19 years
    20%
    20 years or more
    2%

    ears Experience: Less than 1 year
    Median Salary by Job
    Job

    National Salary Data (?)
    $0 $26K $52K $78K
    Mechanical Engineer $55,022

    Software Engineer $62,132
    Registered Nurse (RN) $48,134
    Staff Accountant $40,329
    Physician Assistant (PA) $75,738
    Attorney / Lawyer $52,106
    Electrical Engineer $58,870
    PayScale
    Country: United States | Currency: USD | Updated: 24 May 2013 | Individuals Reporting:


    City: Moore, Oklahoma
    Median Salary by Years Experience
    Years Experience

    Salary Data (?)
    $0 $20K $40K $60K
    Less than 1 year $57,500

    1-4 years $32,000
    5-9 years $39,000
    10-19 years $43,790
    20 years or more $50,750
    PayScale
    Country: United States | Currency: USD | Updated: 19 May 2013 | Individuals Reporting: 27

    And even there something is wrong with those stats because usually more years of experience yield more salary........????

    The point however is, it does not matter. They are working people (the unemployed stats were about nil) and therefore bringing to society. Not white trash. And even if they were, they are human being who have lost everything.
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    Default Re: Massive Tornado Hits Moore, Oklahoma

    FWIW, IMO a life is a life is a life. Poor,rich, middle,. Doesn't matter. I happen to think OK is BEAUTIFUL. I drove through once, and all the beautiful farms, pastures. Where I am from, people don't have much pride. Trash everywhere. They 4 wheel through the grounds of the state parks and tear it up. Take their muffler off their car/truck so they can sound "cool", and disrupt others peace and quiet. That is EGO. LOOK AT ME. I do find it more than coincidence that that family guy episode ran the day before. SICK The only thing to do is start occupying, rally the white house over the haarp issue. Rally the facility in alaska. rally something.

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    Default Re: Massive Tornado Hits Moore, Oklahoma

    Thank you, Flash and Wantsthetruth74, what you posted is what I was trying to say in my frustration over people saying things about Oklahoma like they were thinking we all live in houses with no building codes and that shoddy materials were used. Or that Oklahomans are just poor, ignorant people.

    And just to clear up about the persception that it was inferior houses that were hit by the tornado; I heard a Meteorologist say this week that the force of the power of that tornado was the same as the force of the power of the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima. How could anyone build houses that would with stand that kind of force? I also heard Mike Morgan, one of our local Meteorologist, say that this tornado was the worst one in the history of the world since we started keeping records. These kinda of tornados are rare and not the norm. I know the area that was sturck and these were nice brick houses not shacks.

    I also know what the people of Moore are like. They are good hard working people.

    Anyway, I am tired of trying to defend us Okies. I think I will just go and enjoy the rest of my Sunday.

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