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    Did you see that photo of a huge UFO over the sun (about 10 days ago.) It appeared to be doing something with a solar flare.
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    Please expand. Tell more.
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    could you again explain the thing about the counter intention? expanding your space and then "clean" it? and isn´t there intention involved in cleaning counter intention? what about the negative vector thing?
    A quick note here about intention <--> counter-intention. (In case it may be helpful...)

    When auditing someone or something, one's intention is not to COUNTER the issue being addressed (whether it's a vector of energy, a human opponent, or a problem.) It's to resolve and liberate it. The two are subtly but importantly different.

    The client is never the auditor's opponent, no matter how difficult they may be to deal with. And (by analogy) the planet, and all its problems, and the controllers, the NWO, evil ETs and entities -- and anything else that one might feel has intentions counter to our own --- are not really in absolute spiritual terms) our opponents either.
    I think you can read the "cleaning" in my first post as liberate and resolve but you´re right Bill to point out that there are two subtly differences(mind sets) possible. (countering intention with something as strong or transmute/resolve it). I get it that with countering an intention you´re forming ridges (stuck energy) hence the need to rather resolve and liberate. What I still don´t get is how you go about the resolving and liberating, because first you consider that you resolve and liberate and then you do it. And with that comes intention, and if Jim is right about the vector thing your intention might lead to different results than you desired. (I think one can compare it to a scene in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone when Harry doesn´t really want to have the stone but kinda "needs it the most" and so he finds it in his cloaks pocket)

    I think here comes in play what Jim wrote 2 posts down: "don't make the game serious ... too much effort ...play it like any other game with the lightness of a child makes the game easier to play ... " It´s about keeping everything you consider about your existence here at a level(thought) of game.
    That also kinda confirms a dream I had the night before this when I looked at a book shelf and the book that stood out to me read on it "Life is a game" (by Alex Gray?)
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    here is a sample pro survival postulate
    all the oil in the gulf oil leak is moved to the oil company's property
    now you might think this is impossible
    but my brother in law filmed a philppino doctor in san francisco for the court to see if this was a valid way to heal
    the philippino moved his hand over the belly and then stuck his hand in and took something out .. and put it on the table ... they he moved his hand over the belly again and there were no scars .
    they had to go to mexico to practice medicine
    so we have put the oil from the oil leak in the gulf on the oil companies property and they will have to clean it up and there is nothing stopping it.

    jim
    Ah ha. I thought at the time, it would be a good idea to collect a barrel or two of their creation, and deposit the sludge on their front lawns...

    So be it.

    Sierra
    we once built planets and stars .. and it was easy ... so this is an easy cycle ... just have to change your viewpoint

    jim
    Hi Jim, do you feel Chris Thomas s "reintegration" method is effective in comparison to LRH teachings? Thanks lookbeyond
    I don't know chris or his reintegration .... everything I have is in concepts ,. and it is easier to write it using scientology words ... like theta

    "he has a lot of theta" people go to places where they think they can be healed because there is a lot of theta there .... something which aligns entheta ... which is inturbulated thought ... but it is not just thought alone .... it is theta ... get around people with a lot of theta and you feel good

    so where is there a word in the dictionary that can describe "theta"

    jim

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    could you again explain the thing about the counter intention? expanding your space and then "clean" it? and isn´t there intention involved in cleaning counter intention? what about the negative vector thing?
    A quick note here about intention <--> counter-intention. (In case it may be helpful...)

    When auditing someone or something, one's intention is not to COUNTER the issue being addressed (whether it's a vector of energy, a human opponent, or a problem.) It's to resolve and liberate it. The two are subtly but importantly different.

    The client is never the auditor's opponent, no matter how difficult they may be to deal with. And (by analogy) the planet, and all its problems, and the controllers, the NWO, evil ETs and entities -- and anything else that one might feel has intentions counter to our own --- are not really in absolute spiritual terms) our opponents either.
    I think you can read the "cleaning" in my first post as liberate and resolve but you´re right Bill to point out that there are two subtly differences(mind sets) possible. (countering intention with something as strong or transmute/resolve it). I get it that with countering an intention you´re forming ridges (stuck energy) hence the need to rather resolve and liberate. What I still don´t get is how you go about the resolving and liberating, because first you consider that you resolve and liberate and then you do it. And with that comes intention, and if Jim is right about the vector thing your intention might lead to different results than you desired. (I think one can compare it to a scene in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone when Harry doesn´t really want to have the stone but kinda "needs it the most" and so he finds it in his cloaks pocket)

    I think here comes in play what Jim wrote 2 posts down: "don't make the game serious ... too much effort ...play it like any other game with the lightness of a child makes the game easier to play ... " It´s about keeping everything you consider about your existence here at a level(thought) of game.
    That also kinda confirms a dream I had the night before this when I looked at a book shelf and the book that stood out to me read on it "Life is a game" (by Alex Gray?)
    one way to look at it is suppression ... you want to be a musician and your father wants you to be a doctor ... so his intention is counter to your intention and he tries to suppress you from being a musician ... or you have an intention of living in a clean environment and the cabal wants to kill you with a poisoned environment
    that would be another intenton counter intention

    jim

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    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    Quote Posted by lookbeyond (here)
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    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    here is a sample pro survival postulate
    all the oil in the gulf oil leak is moved to the oil company's property
    now you might think this is impossible
    but my brother in law filmed a philppino doctor in san francisco for the court to see if this was a valid way to heal
    the philippino moved his hand over the belly and then stuck his hand in and took something out .. and put it on the table ... they he moved his hand over the belly again and there were no scars .
    they had to go to mexico to practice medicine
    so we have put the oil from the oil leak in the gulf on the oil companies property and they will have to clean it up and there is nothing stopping it.

    jim
    Ah ha. I thought at the time, it would be a good idea to collect a barrel or two of their creation, and deposit the sludge on their front lawns...

    So be it.

    Sierra
    we once built planets and stars .. and it was easy ... so this is an easy cycle ... just have to change your viewpoint

    jim
    Hi Jim, do you feel Chris Thomas s "reintegration" method is effective in comparison to LRH teachings? Thanks lookbeyond
    I don't know chris or his reintegration .... everything I have is in concepts ,. and it is easier to write it using scientology words ... like theta

    "he has a lot of theta" people go to places where they think they can be healed because there is a lot of theta there .... something which aligns entheta ... which is inturbulated thought ... but it is not just thought alone .... it is theta ... get around people with a lot of theta and you feel good

    so where is there a word in the dictionary that can describe "theta"

    jim
    Thanks anyway, lb

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    why not manifest storage tanks on ur property, and have the oil or whatever turned into usable fuel... and give it away in gas cards to those with low income... why use a revenge tack tick ?

    In the mean time, provide wade frazier with a safe haven to manifest his work and then safe passage for the dispersment of it....then when ur fuel you stored up from the leaks are gone...

    FREE ENERGY IS THERE

    PEACE
    Awesome.

    This thread is providing some amazing memes to generate ...

    Thank you Thunder.

    Sierra
    well I don't know if this postulate can be done yet ... I have moved something in someones body with my fingers outside of her body not touching her ,,, but it was the viewpoint (I AM thetan) that saw it and kinda indicated it wanted to move something inside her ,.. but I have never done something like move all the waste from one side of the planet to the other

    I get a definite "no" on the idea anyway ,... it is just that I would just like to do something like this but it is not ok why?

    this part of the game is kind of a battle between the spirit that was all powerful and the spirit that wants to suppress power because they say it is too unpredictable and dangerous ...

    now you almost never see on this internet in the people who are suppose to be communicating to ET's anything about spiritual powers or god like powers

    almost everywhere it is ALWAYS a VIA .. like we need some big space ship to do this and this ,,, etc ,.. why doesn't anyone want to talk about spiritual powers
    like the REAL powers of a spirit and why they decided to TRAP the big being and remove his powers???

    because they and this means every society up there is terrified of spiritual powers ,,, but these powers are all native abilities to a spirit even to them and they know it but they are afraid of it ...just like when I moved my fingers out the window (spirit fingers) and move them slightly and slammed the storm into the house and away from the house ... it scared me because there was SO MUCH FORCE EVEN WITH LIGHT MOVEMENT OF THE FINGERS and I could have pulled the entire house down on this weak body.

    they want to find some mechanical means of solving all the problems with their mechanical technology ...

    well tell me how you are going to do that ,,. it is like learning how to ride a bicycle ... and no one ever looks at how they learned how to ride a bicycle
    when you take a spinning wheel on a axis and turn the axis the axis will lean in the opposite direction ...
    try it ,.. get on a bicycle and as you try to turn right the bicycle will lean to the left ... so every time you try to turn the bicycle to the right the bicycle leans to the left and knocks you to the ground and vice versus .

    the body doesn't even know it ,. but the spirit knows and gets the person to first turn the wheel slightly to the left so the bicycle will lean to the right so he can turn right ,.. in other words you have to turn left first and lean the bike right and then turn right

    and try to tell someone this ,.. "oh no I always turn the bike to the right when I want to turn right " . no they don't ., they think they do but they subconsciously lean the bike left by turning the wheel right first a little .. but the body doesn't notice this ,.. so when you first learn how to ride a bike you are constantly falling down turning the wheel right to go left and leaning the bike left not right ,,,

    they can't adjust their mechanical technology and all the variables in the technology to move this earth they way they want without tearing it apart some how ...

    but the spirit just KNOWS by instinct how to do all of it without creating any damage ... and can do it like it is just child's play to them

    it is like "how do you drive a car" ... this body is managed by the spirit or GE to drive a car. and it can react much faster than a body trying to calculate distances with a calculator and figuring everything out before he turns the car to miss another car ... if he had to think about it there will be a wreck ... but the being knows how to judge distances and motion and all these things much faster than a being can do it by mechanical means .... it is native to him

    DO YOU SEE???

    so they need these powerful spirit beings to manage the universe because they can manage it spontaneously like the being in the body can do driving a car

    but they are afraid of it ... so .. why not take a piece of space out there .. where beings can go out there and test their abilities before they go handle some part of the universe ...

    like Bruce Lee ... has a training area where he can't damage anyone and learn how to get all those spontaneous moves of his perfect

    so this is what is on the plate right now ....

    we have an entity that looks at us like chicken. a lizard that would just like to eat us like we like to eat chicken ,.. it would be ok if there weren't any spirit beings in the chicken ,,, you would only be hurting a creation that is designed to dramatize pain but there is NO REAL BEING THERE that is feeling the pain ,.,. it is like we made a robot that can react spontaneously to any emotion and etc just like a real spirit can but it is only a GE .. a creation .. go back to the moment you created this GE and this creation would vanish ... but you can NOT go back and vanish a spirit ... the spirit is a creator .....

    that is the difference

    so they are trying to wake us up to the idea that we should only have limited powers .... so they wake us up thinking there is another creator up there doing everything and we are just his helpers .... this is NOT TRUE

    every bit of this universe was and is being created by every being that is in it,

    when ever they come into to this universe they must do the same forgetting so they don't vanish stuff and agree to the laws of it .. so they can be here,.

    so they have put us in a position where we CAN'T SEE ... and say "ok let's see you use your powers now" .. like "do it our way or else" .. is this free choice?
    then get some lizard who wants to take over the place and there is NO ONE WITH ANY KIND OF POWER TO STOP HIM so we have to be constantly intimidated by this entity or else

    so this is the opposite of having gods up there running the place ,..

    so it basically goes like this

    look at STAR WARS

    we are the rebels ... they are the empire
    the jedi are the OT's or gods
    the empire is darth vader are the cabal and those running these lizards and grays
    the storm troupers and those that can be controlled by the jedi are the beings with ghosts only ,,,, the servants .. with no real power of their own

    this kind of gives you an idea of this game

    now to make this story simple
    they have trapped all the jedi on this planet and other prison planets with their memories gone and powers forgotten
    they are trying to convince the rest of the universe it is better that we trap the jedi than have them control us with those unpredictable and awesome dangerous powers

    but at the same time we got a universe OUT OF CONTROL because we don't have any of the jedi using their powers to manage it ...
    they can't even manage this planet's evolution with all their technology things the jedi can do easily and quickly
    they are in a mess and are trying to justify the overt act, (non survival act), they did to us and trying to manage everything with a superficial mechanical society and are too afraid of the lizards to do anything about it

    anybody says anything about opening up powers on this planet will get ... "OMG ... the jedi ??? do we really need them>>>>" or oh " they are the devils ... we need to depend oh GOD ,." and pathetically pray to a non existent god they created and taught to their children, that is suppose to handle everything for then

    this story gets this way because "NO ONE WENT OUT AND LEARNED OR TRIED TO LEARN A WAY TO SALVAGE ALL THE DAMAGED BEINGS AND GET THEIR POWERS BACK SAFELY AND OPERATING AGAIN"

    the solution is to open up the powers but remove all the damaging impulses so he can operate better"

    LRH said, " it takes about 15 years using Budddhism to get a being out of his body which is really what enlightenment is ... but we can pop a being out of his body in 15 minutes ...run him around the universe and we got an OT (jedi) .... well what if he is a cannibal ??? ... you would be turning this being into an OT cannibal .. he would just be out there doing the cannibalism in a much bigger and more dramatic way ...you have to get all this garbage out of him and clean him up and get him educated a bit before you can make him an OT (jedi) again.

    do you see what I am saying .. we almost have to open up our OT abilities blindly ,,, and practice using thought in a way that does the greatest good .. and I can't do something like move all the oil in the gulf onto their property .. this will give them more reason to prove how dangerous we are .. we have to prove to them we can be safe and work with the society at the same time ,.

    do you see what I mean?

    so if we use this mind we created to store memories we will be operating off a stimulus response mechanism ... every time we go unconscious it records everything equal to everything ,. so the pain is equal to the base ball hitting the head is equal the the pain on the side as he fell to the ground equals someone saying 'run run run you're safe'"
    and he has a recording that is not analyzed and has a hypnotic command in it saying "run run run you are safe" ,.. if you get around baseballs and base ball fields that gives you headaches and pains in the side.

    so you can not depend on this mind it is full of booby trapped junk they implanted in it and lies and garbage to take your powers away

    so we in the future had to change the game ... send millions back here with NO MEMORY RECORDING SYSTEM so the person has no hypnotic commands controlling him when he had some painful unconscious incident ... and LEARN HOW TO LOOK AND DO AND KNOW .. which is pretty rough ,,

    we have to just KNOW the actions we should do .. and KNOW by looking what we should do ,.. with no memory system ,.. a spirit doesn't need this automatic recording system ... he can JUST KNOW ... so we basically have to get our intuition working better .. try out and study how thought works and come up with our solutions almost spontaneously ,.. and the star children are like this ,.. but they are being slowed down by all this OTHER THINK that has nothing to do with them ,,,
    we have to take the tech that will work for us .. so we don't have a memory we have to erase .. we have to find out how to operate practically with no manual ,,,
    we are much cleaner with our thoughts and we can learn this ,..

    that is what i am trying to do ... after we have the star people up and running (jed) .. we can figure out how to handle those who use this memory system loaded full of lies and garbage the person tries to operate off .. and every thing just kept repeating itself ... take us back a few billion years and we had the same fire engines and same gasoline driven cars and the same houses ...

    get the idea ...???? we can change all that ... get everyone out of the trap even those in the cabal who want to change and get up to our native selves making universes ,.,.

    you see we are in a weird situation ... no one is out there creating planets and stars again ,,, real estate is getting very expensive because there is no one creating more real estate .. and we don't have anyone that we can get spare parts from ... if you can see this then you can understand why we all need to go back to native state and build a new universe from there

    jim

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    jim
    Very clearly now!!! very sad

    Quote Past results had indicated that the rate of star formation in the Milky Way meant that on average between one and ten solar masses of gas is turned into new stars every year. Do all these newly discovered H II regions cause this figure to increase? Based on the density of the detected nebulae, the answer is not significantly. However, there is an important footnote to this. The surveys looked across only two small areas of the Galaxy, and extrapolating from their findings Bania estimates that there are between 2,000 and 25,000 H II nebulae in the Galaxy potentially detectable by the Green Bank telescope were they to expand their current survey. However, says Bania, this could just be the tip of the iceberg, and deeper surveys could turn up many more.

    “Based on the observations it looks like there is a significant missing population of star-forming regions,” says Dr Loren Anderson of the Astrophysical Laboratory of Marseille, France, who also worked on the project. “We think there are three times as many than what we’ve found, but we can’t see them with the Green Bank telescope.” In any case, it would appear that the Milky Way Galaxy doesn’t have any plans to stop churning out new stars just yet.
    http://www.astronomynow.com/news/n1005/26milkyway/
    ...and this is just what the team says about the milkyway....OUR GALAXY

    https://youtube.com/user/Suspicious0bservers (embed wouldn't work)

    weather?
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    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)

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    jim
    Very clearly now!!! very sad

    Quote Past results had indicated that the rate of star formation in the Milky Way meant that on average between one and ten solar masses of gas is turned into new stars every year. Do all these newly discovered H II regions cause this figure to increase? Based on the density of the detected nebulae, the answer is not significantly. However, there is an important footnote to this. The surveys looked across only two small areas of the Galaxy, and extrapolating from their findings Bania estimates that there are between 2,000 and 25,000 H II nebulae in the Galaxy potentially detectable by the Green Bank telescope were they to expand their current survey. However, says Bania, this could just be the tip of the iceberg, and deeper surveys could turn up many more.

    “Based on the observations it looks like there is a significant missing population of star-forming regions,” says Dr Loren Anderson of the Astrophysical Laboratory of Marseille, France, who also worked on the project. “We think there are three times as many than what we’ve found, but we can’t see them with the Green Bank telescope.” In any case, it would appear that the Milky Way Galaxy doesn’t have any plans to stop churning out new stars just yet.
    http://www.astronomynow.com/news/n1005/26milkyway/
    ...and this is just what the team says about the milkyway....OUR GALAXY

    https://youtube.com/user/Suspicious0bservers (embed wouldn't work)

    weather?
    hmmmm I wonder if they are being created from base 2 .... could be our next step if they really plan to redo this part of the track from the future ...or they are looks like .... preparing something for the future after they fix this track

    yes ... looks like they are setting up the area for star building .. creating the stuff ... and getting enough of it together before you ignite it

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    jim
    Very clearly now!!! very sad

    Quote Past results had indicated that the rate of star formation in the Milky Way meant that on average between one and ten solar masses of gas is turned into new stars every year. Do all these newly discovered H II regions cause this figure to increase? Based on the density of the detected nebulae, the answer is not significantly. However, there is an important footnote to this. The surveys looked across only two small areas of the Galaxy, and extrapolating from their findings Bania estimates that there are between 2,000 and 25,000 H II nebulae in the Galaxy potentially detectable by the Green Bank telescope were they to expand their current survey. However, says Bania, this could just be the tip of the iceberg, and deeper surveys could turn up many more.

    “Based on the observations it looks like there is a significant missing population of star-forming regions,” says Dr Loren Anderson of the Astrophysical Laboratory of Marseille, France, who also worked on the project. “We think there are three times as many than what we’ve found, but we can’t see them with the Green Bank telescope.” In any case, it would appear that the Milky Way Galaxy doesn’t have any plans to stop churning out new stars just yet.
    http://www.astronomynow.com/news/n1005/26milkyway/
    ...and this is just what the team says about the milkyway....OUR GALAXY

    https://youtube.com/user/Suspicious0bservers (embed wouldn't work)

    weather?
    this is good ... the being can look at this and know what to do with ... it is better to confront something then run from it ...

    remember "that what you can confront you can handle" .. you'll all figure out a way ... whether you are aware of it or not


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    what being?

    how bout postulating all the gmo food be turned normal again?
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    Jimini,

    Something suddenly started clicking with your last few posts.

    Question: "... they are trying to convince the rest of the universe it is better that we trap the jedi than have them control us with those unpredictable and awesome dangerous powers ..."

    Us Jedi. Are we interested in controlling the universe? Did we abuse our powers in the past? Or simply get hosed and imprisoned?

    So asking for confirmation here: A GE is a soul-less entity, never had a soul, never can have a soul, might as well say, a computer has a soul. So explain to me again, why did I create my GEs? That is the impression I have gotten, that I created my own GEs ... is that accurate?

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    Did we abuse our powers in the past?

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    Did we abuse our powers in the past?
    Oops. Bad us.

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    Jimini,

    Something suddenly started clicking with your last few posts.

    Question: "... they are trying to convince the rest of the universe it is better that we trap the jedi than have them control us with those unpredictable and awesome dangerous powers ..."

    Us Jedi. Are we interested in controlling the universe? Did we abuse our powers in the past? Or simply get hosed and imprisoned?

    So asking for confirmation here: A GE is a soul-less entity, never had a soul, never can have a soul, might as well say, a computer has a soul. So explain to me again, why did I create my GEs? That is the impression I have gotten, that I created my own GEs ... is that accurate?

    Thanks, Sierra
    See this post <--- regarding the "Electronics" people and the "Thought" people.

    As for the GE, it is the electronic/ethereal blue print which builds up a biological body and monitors all its functions via the brain but also acts as the interface between body biological and the driving being/thetan.

    So, way back when, spirit decided to arrange raw matter and, in order to do that, created "GEs" that would do the job on an automatic basis. Hence crystals would also have a "GE" that determine their shape and growth. GEs and various life forms derived from there with increasing complexities.

    That was also when spirit/theta was still outside the box (space/time... see even I could pull some "Willcock" tricks ). Then, in order to "experience" what was inside the box spirit/thetan had to get inside the box. In doing that the first time around, it probably didn't work since spirit/thetan knowing how it was built and how it was working, spirit/thetan would make it vanish at once by completely "duplicating"/embracing/comprehending it in an instant.

    So, in order to be able to experience that box's inside, spirit/thetan had to "not-know"/forget how it all works and who created it... and the first lie was invented... : God! S/He is the one responsible for all of this! NOT ME!

    And, so, the created universe was able to persist... without any risks of being "un-mocked"/disappeared.

    In other words, spirit/thetan became the effect of its own creation by making it persist through a lie... and it went downhill from then on because spirit/thetan forgot to design an emergency exit.

    Accordingly, the ones from outside the box looking at this and wanting to recover their missing pals decided to do something about it and designed something that could be done right at the bottom of the ladder that would allow the "lost" ones to bootstrap themselves up to speed... so to speak.

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    that is what I am wondering ... do we let the pole shift happen and do it in a way that doesn't create tsnamiis .. I can keep the core cooler .. so we don't get too much earthquakes ... and volcanoes ... but what is the greatest good ... let the planet align like it wants to .... i need some good ideas ... if we do that the ice will melt and the water will come up maybe 675 feet ... but it will take some years ... then this cabal using HAARP to melt greenland to speed it up I can literally cool the planet too ... but I don't know how much damage it would do ... if we can get some of the rainbows and crystals ... don't need too many ... they will just look at the idea ... and it will start to happen ... but you have to be exact with postulates don't leave anything out ... like we will do this and this and this .. and no one will get killed and if we need a migration ... we need to decide how we want it to go and not be selfish with it .. gaia needs to clean herself
    I see most of europe under water ... but you can decide to keep it in place and have other places go down ...maybe just get a deeper ocean and you want to keep the destruction at a minimum ... we do this ... we got the planet and the people that can let more thetans come down because this will be a training ground ,., you see to a spirit this place is like playing with sand on a beach making castles ... so .. for example ,. if we sink the bottom of the atlantic to allow more space for water than when the poles melt we will still be ok ... or we can sink the pacific to make more space for water all around since the pacific is the least populated ...
    what kind of scenario do we want ... then we work it ... believe me ... take out the VIA's and we can do this anyway we want ... this is example
    example ... decide the end thing you want ... with no VIA's ... ok pole shift ... ice melted and the land and oceans don' t change ... everything stays the same ... no one gets killed
    that is a postulate with no VIA's ... with this body think we think we have to change this to change that to change something else .... no .. put the exact thing you want ... get as many of us intending it we can ... and it just happens ...
    Sorry to hit on a post from 5 days ago, but this is a fast thread and I have not been keeping up.

    I have some observations and rhetorical questions to set the context for a direct question at the end.

    So, you, like a substantial number of often quiet others, have learned that with that mustard grain sized faith you can move mountains.

    Now you want to know where to move the mountain?

    How about not moving it?

    However, if that mountain is really causing you or those you care for some problems how about asking the universe where it would best be - for the highest and best good of all?

    This seems to me to address the essential dilemma you allude to in the quoted post.

    Maybe you will cover this later, but you seem like you are trying to take all this on individually. IMO this is a suboptimal strategy.

    Those of us who wish to serve the creator (and are or are becoming consciously aware of that) are generally group beings - and people that like to work in harmony.

    You have alluded to this in the way you have referred to (what you assume about) your own being - who you have called a viewpoint of metteyya. Thus "we" have many hands with which to make the light work.

    Can you/we align to the will of the creator ?

    Direct question: What steps do you take in identifying the differences between your own will and the will of the infinite creator?
    -- Let the truth be known by all, let the whole truth be known by all, let nothing but the truth be known by all --

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Very interesting...

    Has one yet tried to echo-locate oneself like a bat and make the distinction between one moving in a fixed environment vs. a fixed environment moving with respect to oneself? Never mind echo locating oneself with respect to something else moving within either case… which OT level is that drill at?
    I think I use to do something similar to this as a young child...though I've never heard the phrase "echo-locate" until now. Tell me if you think this is the same thing- So I would go to bed, lights would be out, it's dark and then in about an hour or so, I would start screaming because I knew there was a bug on the wall and I knew it's exact location and often if I remember correctly I knew what kind of bug it was. I could actually "feel" it. Maybe feel it's energy is a better way of expressing what I mean, not feel it, as in touch me. Could this be the same as echo-locating? I have done the same thing when trying to find something I've lost, like keys or a piece of jewelry.

    Ya I know this was discussed several posts ago, but I'm just now catching up.

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    [...]

    I think I use to do something similar to this as a young child...though I've never heard the phrase "echo-locate" until now...

    [...]
    I would think that what you were doing as a child is quite different and more like jim does when "being" the space the size of a room or of a continent or hemisphere. The bug "invaded" your space and you were able to directly perceive it.

    Echo-locating on the other hand would be doing what bats do: sending out ultra sounds and get an "echo-graph" of their surroundings, much like a radar does in sending a signal out and timing the returned/echo signal translated into distance on the radar screen.

    As one poster mentioned, there are videos on youtube of a blind kid riding a bike without ever running into any obstacles by clicking his tongue and knowing where obstacles are and whether they are moving or not.

    Hope this helps?

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    oooh ya....I do remember seeing that video. Thanks I understand now.

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    Quote Posted by thunder24 (here)
    what being?

    how bout postulating all the gmo food be turned normal again?
    don't know if anyone is that powerful yet ... but you can try ... how would you prove it.

    with microscope?

    jim

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