Clif High WEBBOT : Global Coastal Event

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by greybeard (here)
If it was just Clif I would say he is crazy.
However he got validation for at least the part that was pertaining to his neck of the woods from various remote viewers.
Courtney Brown came up with similar as did Ed Dames.
Some of it seems to have happened---HOWEVER there is the possibility of remote viewers picking up different time lines.
So a time line (I dont really like that expression) can go so far then produce many different end results in multiple universes, at least that's the theory and for all I know its so.
For my money---either we are going to have a changing earth at the current rate or a sudden "earth shattering" change soon or years from now.
The fact that it is changing cant be denied.

Yes, and not only do you have remote viewers saying similar things, but various psychics. And then there are things like the Dolores Cannon sessions that have talked about such events happening. See the first part of this article where Dolores is talking to "Anne":

http://www.transients.info/2012/07/a...2-changes.html

Then there is the Law of One channelings where Ra talked about the possibility of planetary "inconveniences". Here's a quote (I'm sure there are others):

Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is a vibrational spectrum. Your time/space continuum has spiraled your planetary sphere and your, what we would call galaxy, what you call star, into this vibration. This will cause the planetary sphere itself to electromagnetically realign its vortices of reception of the in-streaming of cosmic forces expressing themselves as vibrational webs so that the Earth will thus be fourth-density magnetized, as you might call it.

This is going to occur with some inconvenience, as we have said before, due to the energies of the thought-forms of your peoples which disturb the orderly constructs of energy patterns within your Earth spirals of energy which increases entropy and unusable heat. This will cause your planetary sphere to have some ruptures in its outer garment while making itself appropriately magnetized for fourth density. This is the planetary adjustment.

These are just the things that come to mind at the moment, there are many more. So, it's not just Clif saying these things.

[Calz]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)

Posted by xeon (here)

I never believed this, simply because its way over the top, like a movie Hollywood would conjure up.

that you don't believe it doesn't mean it's not possible, or necessary.

Shift happens ...

[golden lady]

If the Earth is conscious in her own right and I believe she is, then she will do what is needed.
Earth and all who live upon her belong to each other, she means us no harm. The problem is, most humans have become disconnected, we don't hear or even listen to her any more. For if we did we would move out of harms way.
This is where something like Cliffs webbot might be helpful, collecting our group consciousness , which is stronger than individual, to forewarn us.
As for intention to stop or diminish earth changes, perhaps we should only do this on a more local level to lesen the impact and help others through.

[nonesuch]

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

A few of my opinions...No one can 'awaken' another spiritually, not in the same way its done in 'the illusion' as you called it. Its not a parallel metaphor. Awakening from a dream and coming back to 'reality' in the physical world is still going from one unpleasant reality in form to a more familiar reality in form. Haven't we all had days when it seemed like we were in a physical nightmare but we couldn't wake up even with another's help? Awakening from all form to the complementary awareness of 'non-form' or 'void' is possibly necessary for 'enlightnement' but there is no way to leap from "form" to 'non-form" using 'formal' methods.

I spent several months some years back, daily sitting a chair to 'meditate' on non-form, knowing full well that the task was not possible while using a technique or a mind. Anything I could imagine to do would be, by definition, 'form' by merely imagining it.

So instead, I would just sit and ask or intend to do the impossible and place my gentlest focus of whatever I could muster—thought, following my breathing, locating the awareness behind my eyes, etc.—on 'nothing' with no expectation of any result and no requests for special favors from the void. I was simply dedicating those moments to the fact that the void was already present 'here' with or without my awareness and therefore there was nothing for me to 'do' but place myself in the position to endure a meaningless practice for the purpose of honoring that sacred truth.

It didn't hurt that I was very depressed those days and felt I was living in the middle of nowhere on earth. (As I told myself back then about living in the middle of nowhere....'well, someone's got to do it' to balance out everyone else who seemed so busy living 'somewhere' and doing something to make their lives either meaningful or at least full of happy distractions.

The void, in my experience, does the awakening, not anyone in ego consciousness and certainly not anyone claiming 'enlightenment'...the very claim of which gives the impression that what is a natural flow of awareness to the enlightened is a commodity to attain for us. This becomes the biggest misdirection of them all for us truth addicts.

The enlightened generally report on what they experience after enlightenement has taken hold. Most of those awarenesses can't even be even thought of, much less put into words without crushing their authenticity. Others often mistake those reports as 'methods' worth imitating, as if the enlightened state can be attained through thought (or any other form). To work with the formless, we learn to accept it on its terms, which to most of us is a big, fat, dull pile of emptiness...but true emptiness,nonetheless.

For the moment, putting the task of enlightenment and other fishing expeditions aside, there are such things as baby steps toward awakening. One of them comes with the realization that our physical reality is extraordinarily flexible, far more than most realists would ever feel safe, intelligent or sane exploring. The thing is that so-called miracles are very practical and real and have measurable impact within the physical plane. I have friends I know well and trust report such things as having witnessed plants and trees grow and blossom a season's worth before their eyes, like time-lapse photography. Now, that takes a refined states of consciousness beforehand... and some gift of grace. I myself have had experiences that might fall into the class of miracles. As I stated above that path is rarely linear or logical by mainstream definitions.

I have been a partner in reducing or eliminating the lag time ordinarily (and unconsciously) needed to align and merge intent with the awareness of grace, while taking leveraged action to rapidly/instantly produce physical and/or multidimensional manifestations that endure beyond the pleasant yet momentary collapse into gratitude.

One person's awareness of such realities can produce, through Universal conductivity, miracles and healings for others who are not yet aware of such possibilities in their daily lives.

So, its possible to change earthquakes and hurricanes or possibly easier to simply bypass them in experience, while others may be inconvenienced or worse by the same events. It's in our power to do far more than most want to bother learning.

The allure of winning battle requires battle consciousness and something or someone to fight in order to succeed or even have fun trying. There's no point in fighting Satan if that being has no power in the realms in which we choose, learn and remember to reside. But we're each free to choose our own path, until it chooses us back, for better or for worse.

Our beliefs 'create,' influence, attract or bring into manifestation the forms that most comply with the totality of our conscious and unconscious awarenesses.

There is a logic to miracles, but its not gained through logical means. It's like learning to dive. When you think about it while attempting it, you end up belly flopping, often giving up before practice produces trust and trust relaxes thought and the act of a successful dive becomes second nature.

My experiences are not dependent on others' belief or agreement, though my awarenesses have influenced others in ways that felt so good they found themselves going all counterintuitive and daring to want to know more about something they usually believed was a waste of time. The only difference with me was that I consciously chose to waste my time in service to the timeless. I can't say anything happened that provided practical guidance to others, but I wasn't intending or expecting otherwise, so it was a grand success.

The cherry on top is that some months I collect food, water and supplies to store for a rainy day. I could always use a tip or two from any realist who specializes in survival. My closet is such a mess of dried beans and dehydrated dinners (romantically, for two), I often can't find the clothes I'm looking for. I'd be disturbed about that if I were about to be transported to my death via overstuffed cattle car, since I'd want to look my best when TSA scanned me at the Pearly Gates. Fortunately, most days a tee shirt and old jeans more than suffice to keep me within reasonable social norms, fashion-wise, even if I've worn them for the last week. Country living and all.

Oh...and, Cliff High. Don't want to go off topic.

[greybeard]

Hi Nonesuch
On topic----maybe Clif reads these posts
If he does I thank him and wish him well.
Now
Thats an excellent post Nonesuch

You can work towards but you cant make it happen---obstacles can be removed etc.
Tim has a great thread here

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post456904

"This is an account of the direct experience of awakening.

What can be said, or written, of itself cannot reveal the truth.

Words and language are themselves an illusory tool, an aspect of the relative dream, and can only indicate or hint towards the totality, or reality, or that which is.

Upon the moment of awakening not only does the illusion of the relative self or ego vanish like a shadow exposed to light, but all “other” egos, or relative selves, disappear. All separation disappears, and the absolute Self is realized. All is then enlightened and whole, for there never really were separate entities that could become individually enlightened. There then is no relative doer, nor even an absolute doer, for all doing implies separation. Or something to do, or somewhere to go. And not just other humans, but the entire creation is enlightened and whole."

[greybeard]

Ps I think the quality of all posts on this thread is very high.
People are coming from a good place with good intention and good attitude.
Obviously a lot of thought goes in to the various points of view.
The pictures Calz are amazing.
Best wishes to all
Chris

[jiminii]

Posted by nonesuch (here)

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

A few of my opinions...No one can 'awaken' another spiritually, not in the same way its done in 'the illusion' as you called it. Its not a parallel metaphor. Awakening from a dream and coming back to 'reality' in the physical world is still going from one unpleasant reality in form to a more familiar reality in form. Haven't we all had days when it seemed like we were in a physical nightmare but we couldn't wake up even with another's help? Awakening from all form to the complementary awareness of 'non-form' or 'void' is possibly necessary for 'enlightnement' but there is no way to leap from "form" to 'non-form" using 'formal' methods.

I spent several months some years back, daily sitting a chair to 'meditate' on non-form, knowing full well that the task was not possible while using a technique or a mind. Anything I could imagine to do would be, by definition, 'form' by merely imagining it.

So instead, I would just sit and ask or intend to do the impossible and place my gentlest focus of whatever I could muster—thought, following my breathing, locating the awareness behind my eyes, etc.—on 'nothing' with no expectation of any result and no requests for special favors from the void. I was simply dedicating those moments to the fact that the void was already present 'here' with or without my awareness and therefore there was nothing for me to 'do' but place myself in the position to endure a meaningless practice for the purpose of honoring that sacred truth.

It didn't hurt that I was very depressed those days and felt I was living in the middle of nowhere on earth. (As I told myself back then about living in the middle of nowhere....'well, someone's got to do it' to balance out everyone else who seemed so busy living 'somewhere' and doing something to make their lives either meaningful or at least full of happy distractions.

The void, in my experience, does the awakening, not anyone in ego consciousness and certainly not anyone claiming 'enlightenment'...the very claim of which gives the impression that what is a natural flow of awareness to the enlightened is a commodity to attain for us. This becomes the biggest misdirection of them all for us truth addicts.

The enlightened generally report on what they experience after enlightenement has taken hold. Most of those awarenesses can't even be even thought of, much less put into words without crushing their authenticity. Others often mistake those reports as 'methods' worth imitating, as if the enlightened state can be attained through thought (or any other form). To work with the formless, we learn to accept it on its terms, which to most of us is a big, fat, dull pile of emptiness...but true emptiness,nonetheless.

For the moment, putting the task of enlightenment and other fishing expeditions aside, there are such things as baby steps toward awakening. One of them comes with the realization that our physical reality is extraordinarily flexible, far more than most realists would ever feel safe, intelligent or sane exploring. The thing is that so-called miracles are very practical and real and have measurable impact within the physical plane. I have friends I know well and trust report such things as having witnessed plants and trees grow and blossom a season's worth before their eyes, like time-lapse photography. Now, that takes a refined states of consciousness beforehand... and some gift of grace. I myself have had experiences that might fall into the class of miracles. As I stated above that path is rarely linear or logical by mainstream definitions.

I have been a partner in reducing or eliminating the lag time ordinarily (and unconsciously) needed to align and merge intent with the awareness of grace, while taking leveraged action to rapidly/instantly produce physical and/or multidimensional manifestations that endure beyond the pleasant yet momentary collapse into gratitude.

One person's awareness of such realities can produce, through Universal conductivity, miracles and healings for others who are not yet aware of such possibilities in their daily lives.

So, its possible to change earthquakes and hurricanes or possibly easier to simply bypass them in experience, while others may be inconvenienced or worse by the same events. It's in our power to do far more than most want to bother learning.

The allure of winning battle requires battle consciousness and something or someone to fight in order to succeed or even have fun trying. There's no point in fighting Satan if that being has no power in the realms in which we choose, learn and remember to reside. But we're each free to choose our own path, until it chooses us back, for better or for worse.

Our beliefs 'create,' influence, attract or bring into manifestation the forms that most comply with the totality of our conscious and unconscious awarenesses.

There is a logic to miracles, but its not gained through logical means. It's like learning to dive. When you think about it while attempting it, you end up belly flopping, often giving up before practice produces trust and trust relaxes thought and the act of a successful dive becomes second nature.

My experiences are not dependent on others' belief or agreement, though my awarenesses have influenced others in ways that felt so good they found themselves going all counterintuitive and daring to want to know more about something they usually believed was a waste of time. The only difference with me was that I consciously chose to waste my time in service to the timeless. I can't say anything happened that provided practical guidance to others, but I wasn't intending or expecting otherwise, so it was a grand success.

The cherry on top is that some months I collect food, water and supplies to store for a rainy day. I could always use a tip or two from any realist who specializes in survival. My closet is such a mess of dried beans and dehydrated dinners (romantically, for two), I often can't find the clothes I'm looking for. I'd be disturbed about this if I were about to be transported to my death via overstuffed cattle car, since I'd want to look my best when TSA scanned me at the Pearly Gates. Fortunately, most days a tee shirt and old jeans more than suffice to keep me within reasonable social norms, fashion-wise, even if I've worn them for the last week. Country living and all.

Oh...and, Cliff High. Don't want to go off topic.

in my case the awareness came by accident ...it started when the rain stopped between 2 traffic signals on hollywood ..and started a long chain of miracles I caused by thoughts .... so I am on the other side ... now trying to control my thoughts appearing in the physical universe

example .. I have a corvair van .. I am driving across USA ... i was having all my thoughts going in reverse ,,, "well we have enough gas" puncture in the gas tank .. and everything we do just makes it worse ... well the truck runs good .. all of a sudden something goes wrong and I got to repair it ... well we got plenty of oil ... suddenly oil shoots all over the engine .. and i have to put in all new ... one after another .. oh we got good tires ... we had 5 flat tires the whole trip ... so the last flat tire is in wyoming and we didn't have enough gas to get to salt lake city so I thought "jim don't think any thoughts and we'll make it" .... now I really don't know how it happened but the car just kept running when it should have ran out of gas and no more problems until we got there ..
yes it is an illusion ... but we created this illusion so we can have a game or games to play in it ... and someone didn't like our games put us here ... and made it SO REAL we don't seem to have any control of it .... and I was in trouble ,, all my thoughts happening or reversing of what ever ... this spirit was playing games to let me know what is ... and I could see my thoughts could create anything ...
so I managed to find a book call "the phoenix lectures" by LRH ... and i learned how to control my thoughts ... it is not perfect ... we still have this reverse vector where everything we reach for moves away from us and everything we resist comes at us ... and we have the effort counter effort .. we effort to get something and it makes counter effort ... if we don't have a car it is almost impossible to get the first car ... if we have a car it is easy to get another car ....

it is sooooooo balanced it is like trying to balance a bowling ball on the head of a pin ... the slightest effort creates counter effort so I tried many things

make a flow going away from you ... make a flow coming back ... and do it back and forth and make it less each time ... until you have a very slight forward flow and very slight backward flow and you can find the middle ... and in that middle you are not efforting ..you can make a thought happen

it is a game ... but not an easy game .. being stuck on a planet like this can make a monkey out of and OT (operating thetan god jedi) ...

but there is a way out ... and that is what we are doing

jim

[nonesuch]

Thanks, greybeard for your comments. Agreed. This is a quality thread (among many).

Jimini, having things go all backwards is not funny to the one its happening to, but your description of it made me laugh. The 'creative' nonphysical reality that responds to our human intent actually operates backwards from the physical reality we walk through.

Thus, the outcome we intend is located right where we stand. We're living it. Now. From there, out into the distance, the structural support, the "what" and the "how" arise as a RESULT of the outcome we're living. It's helpful to realize that backward is forward in bizarro world and think accordingly. Our chosen result is ALWAYS first in line; the means and methods, second, while the original inspiration is camping way off on some mountaintop we can barely see.

Also, if we have any unconscious beliefs that contradict our conscious intent, those often show up as obstacles and reversals of which we seem to be passive victims.

There are tons of energy work methods available that address unconscious limiting patterns, removing any vestiges of charge we still have on them and putting our beliefs back into order, replacing them with more effective beliefs, or chucking them all together, leaving space where once there were problems.

Controlling thought is difficult under the best of circumstances, but as long as an unexplored unconscious claims its rightful stake in all decisions, its nearly impossible. Regardless, after years of thinking otherwise, I've come to the conclusion that I'm not in charge of my thoughts. I'm in charge of my intentions, at least while here on Earth.

Sort of like unspoiled royalty, I state out loud to the one whose job it is to control thought (the unconscious, the higher self? you name it, its there to help) my intention of the moment or day, then delegate to my beloved assistant the responsibility of accessing and presenting to me supporting thoughts, circumstances, needed supplies and informed actions, while also communicating my thanks via smoke signals to the original impulse that got the ball rolling.

Within seconds or minutes, 'my' thoughts (and feelings!) gently change on their own, already aligned with my direction (or something better), but not under my control. I say what I want/intend and direct the unconscious/higher self to provide the means and methods for achieving it, then put my feet up until it manifests full blown or at least carrying maps that show me my next steps. For me, delegation is much easier than burdensome control. Just. Not. Possible. Without. Burning. Out.

Outcome: What I say GOES (for the most part) and I don't do the heavy lifting. Even unspoiled royalty has its perqs.

[The Truth Is In There]

maybe i'm the only one who has this problem but what i don't understand in all this is why pretty much everybody who makes doom predictions says stuff like "i hope i'm wrong" or similar things. haven't they looked around? it's not as if we're on our way to paradise.

there's endless talk about how things are getting better and this is being done behind the scenes and that is being worked on and soon all will be well but if you tune out all the love & light dribble and just take look at the world and how it has developed during the last few decades it should become clear to anybody that no, nothing will be well unless something happens that will completely turn us around because we're headed directly towards an abyss.

i've said it before and i'll repeat it ad nauseam...the only thing that can save humanity from either total enslavement or its own extinction is worldwide doom, an event or events that will totally destroy the current civilization so that we are forced to start again from scratch. anything less, that merely tries to correct some mistakes or mitigate our countless problems and does not totally remove them will never work because, no matter what the deluded love & light faction says, the forces that work against a positive development of humanity are, in our current state of affairs, much stronger than those that work for a positive future. too many controlling factors (such as money, governments, certain laws) are in place that prevent most people from finding back to their true "benevolent" state.

catastrophic earth changes and a worldwide destruction of the current system are the only things that can offer us the chance to create a different, positive future, at least for a while because knowing humanity, things will turn foul again soon enough.

[jiminii]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
maybe i'm the only one who has this problem but what i don't understand in all this is why pretty much everybody who makes doom predictions says stuff like "i hope i'm wrong" or similar things. haven't they looked around? it's not as if we're on our way to paradise.

there's endless talk about how things are getting better and this is being done behind the scenes and that is being worked on and soon all will be well but if you tune out all the love & light dribble and just take look at the world and how it has developed during the last few decades it should become clear to anybody that no, nothing will be well unless something happens that will completely turn us around because we're headed directly towards an abyss.

i've said it before and i'll repeat it ad nauseam...the only thing that can save humanity from either total enslavement or its own extinction is worldwide doom, an event or events that will totally destroy the current civilization so that we are forced to start again from scratch. anything less, that merely tries to correct some mistakes or mitigate our countless problems and does not totally remove them will never work because, no matter what the deluded love & light faction says, the forces that work against a positive development of humanity are, in our current state of affairs, much stronger than those that work for a positive future. too many controlling factors (such as money, governments, certain laws) are in place that prevent most people from finding back to their true "benevolent" state.

catastrophic earth changes and a worldwide destruction of the current system are the only things that can offer us the chance to create a different, positive future, at least for a while because knowing humanity, things will turn foul again soon enough.

I had that thought too until I found this website ... if we let this disaster happen .. then they can just take the planet with no resistance ... we are the jedi ... the most powerful in the universe and the most powerful from the future came here too to help ... and the force fields have been removed from the planet that traps us here ... this tells me something ... if this now is no longer a prison planet ... then WHO IS WINNING???? .. everyone can leave and go home if they want to ... but NOT ME ... this place has been fought and won by US together as a collective ... a lot up there would just like to take it ... do you want to go back to where you came from? ... if you think the economic duress is bad here ... GO HOME .... and magnify this same USA and GLOBAL GREED ... by the size of this and other galaxies connected to this galactic government ... and that is how much you will have to fight up there ... it is a vacation here compared to what you will deal with up there. the thing is ... this place will have the most powerful in the universe running it ... and NO ONE CAN STOP IT ... and they will have to FOLLOW OUR RIGHTS TO RUN IT AND ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO ... THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ..... They have created all this suppression that brought it down to this level EVERYWHERE and they are trying to make you think it is IDEAL up there ...IT IS NOT ...FAR FROM ... a lot of us came here by CHOICE because we KNEW ... this place is the only available place where we can take it and they can't stop it and after we take it ... WE will be the masters .... but this time we will not tolerate infiltrated groups that will try to destroy it from inside ... we will have an ethics system put in that will make sure that every ones case who is WILLING to change will be able to join us and the rest can just go back to that HELL they came from ... and that is the way it is ... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and we are powerful enough to SAY IT ...AND DO IT
AND MAKE IT A REALITY

it is all up to us ... no .. I put it another way .. since we already WON ... it is up to you if you want to go back to a place a million times worse then here ... I mean .. look this guy just bought himself an SUV ... what do you think you have up there ... ???? they may have better and more technical system .. BUT ... WHO OWNS AND CONTROLS IT ALL??? and how much of it do you get ... and how much freedom do you have .. etc ...

no I am staying here ... I fought for it and I earned it and NO ONE IS GOING TO TAKE MY HOME ... which believe it or not ... I can still travel this world freely ... and I can still buy stuff and make my own game ... they have taken a lot ... but that game is over ...

jim

[greybeard]

Hi The Truth is In There
Oh yes---pruning is necessary for healthy plant growth.
However its "Not in my Back Yard"--- I would not wish hard times or death on anyone including my family.
Its Ok in a way for me who believes in life after death and not actually being Chris but for those who have a different belief system--compassion is, to my mind, required even though all that you say is so.

Im not inferring that you lack compassion for when humans see others in pain and misery virtually every one surprises themselves and rise to the occasion.
The enlightened ones, who say its a cosmic joke more or less, are very often to the forefront helping those in misery to get out of it.
Its possible to have two opposing beliefs at the same time and believe both to be valid.
I believe it may take a major event to cleanse the earth---I also believe its not necessary as I have faith in humankind to evolve into a more compassionate caring species given a few more generations.

Clif is I believe a very compassionate individual.

Chris

[we-R-one]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by Warlock (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)
What concerns me about these types of topics is that people so badly want the predictions to be true so that they can say there were right.....and yet they don't understand the power they have and the effect their thoughts will have in creating the very disaster they supposedly don't want. As we begin to recognize the power we truly have, this can be very dangerous. It is the very reason why I've suggested that we get our spiritual houses in order so that we don't harm one another and understand that this power is not to be abused.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you here, but how can thought stop an earthquake, volcano, tsunami, tornado, hurricane, a hailstorm with hail the size of softballs, etc?

I understand that many people do not realize the power of negative and positive thoughts in their own personal lives, but we are talking about a global coastal event, not the power of positive thinking.

Please do not take this comment as an attack on you or your comments.

Warlock

Perhaps maybe I take some of my internal knowledge for granted. There are many studies on the power of intention so you would have to take the time to do the research on your own and draw your conclusion from there. We are all tied into the same energy field and our thoughts do have an effect on our environment in more ways than most even understand. Much of my affirmation comes from personal experience that I cannot prove in the same way that Jiminii can't prove his ability to manipulate the weather. Which is why many of us star seeds will say you are more powerful than you know. This comes from experiencing situations where one can transform their reality through the power of intention whether alone or with others, by manipulating the energy around them in order to obtain the desired results. There is nothing you cannot do or control, it is your belief systems that hold you back from obtaining and implementing this type of power that has the ability to transform your reality. I have no doubt that this is all ready being done in advance civilizations since you are living in the past on planet Earth.

So when I tell you I've been able to speed up time in the car to arrive at my destination quicker, which is known as time dilation, or make someone call me whom I haven't talked to in 10 years and no longer had my number which was unlisted, both through the power of intention which in essence is the manipulation of energy etc, etc....you begin to see the possibilities are endless as to what you can do. As more people understand this, and implement the same belief systems, our world will advance in unimaginable ways. Hopefully sooner than later the studies will catch up with what some of all ready know to be true.

Hello we-R-one. The power of intention is very real--in fact, more than real. It is reality itself. As far as I understand, however, this is exactly why I'm inclined to take the webbot predictions seriously. That's not to say I ever taken the GCE, specifically, or any other webbot forecast as gospel. I just take it seriously, whether it ever materializes in time or not. As far as I understand, the webbot is really nothing but a crude measure of the collective intention, as best this so-called collective intention can be quantified on a subconscious level on the Internet. In my mind, it is a crude measurement and not infallible, and certainly not augural (to say the least) but it is a measure, albeit crude, of the collective intention. I see no contradiction whatsoever in your view of this matter with the OP...

If I have misread your post, or am misguided, by all means I am open to learning more about your perspective.

I understand what you're saying, but it's the way it's being used to instill fear on the masses, as that's how people are "programmed" to process this type of information, so I don't perceive that to be a service; and like a broken record the masses buy into it over and over again. From what I know about the power of intention is, if you keep highlighting the said events, the very focus might have the potential in harboring it's outcome due to the outpouring of attention drawn on a mass scale towards the potential event.

Let me ask, did anyone listen to the warning? Any Avalon members grab their bug-out bag and head for the hills based on this warning? And if you did, do you do it every time you see a warning as such? I know we have several members whom I won't name that live in these areas. Just curious.

How many of these warning predictions are we going to continue to focus our energy on? Eventually I'm sure something will happen as our planet is ever changing, that's just a given. I'm just not seeing the benefit of these warnings in the manner that they're presented as I feel it does more harm than good. Besides the fear it generates is just more food to feed the Archons, lol.

[skippy]

Times have changed, but nothing new under the sun. People are not very different 50 or 500 years ago. We always had people predicting end-times, believers and non-believers. Nobody knows, but who did start the fire?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g

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Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
I have a question. I've asked this before, but no one has ever responded, so I'll try again. (persistent little stinker that I am, but really, I'm just trying to gain more understanding)

We talk about this world as an illusion - from which we have to wake up. Yet the illusion is very persistent (per Einstein and our own experience). Now, let's say(in what we call this 3D reality) our child is in the bedroom flailing about in bed in the midst of a bad dream. Do we try to get into his head and make his dream better, or do we simply shake him and wake him up, hug them and say it's okay, you were just having a bad dream?

I think you get my point. If this is an illusion, in trying to make the illusion better are we just keeping the illusion going, because:

a) it's getting better
b) we have become addicted to solving the problem of making it better or different
c) we really believe it's real on some level

or would it be better to let it become intolerable and force us to wake up - as sometimes in dreams pure fear wakes us up.

or should we just ignore what's happening, because withdrawing our attention to it just makes it more real? (Although this never seemed like an answer to me, since so many - as in those who watch TV non-stop, seem to be ignoring it, but maybe one must purposely ignore it, (as in really see what's happening) rather than ostrich in the sand mentality.

Or, is it possible that we are being trapped into this matrix by (Et's, some unknown source, etc).

While this may seem unrelated to a Global Coastal Event - if this world is an illusion, so would be a GCE

I very much like your question. I think we are creators. Either jailed creators within their/its own created matrix or baby creators. Either way, we have to learn how to create.

Right now we are more often than not in our created nightmare - more on conspiracy forums imo - and we have a choice: to wake up and go beyond the illusion or to control the dream and make it joyful and loving.

When my child was small, around 8, i knew she was old enough to understand and i told her that next time she would have a nightmare she could order the bad guys or circumstances to go away. Her nightmares decreased substantially afterward. Now that she is older, she may start understanding that it is all illusion and behave/create accordingly.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Posted by skippy (here)
Times have changed, but nothing new under the sun. People are not very different 50 or 500 years ago. We always had people predicting end-times, believers and non-believers. Nobody knows, but who did start the fire?

I understand what you are saying about predictions and I agree that end times have always been predicted - HOWEVER, from my perspective many other things have changed dramatically in our historical times and the spiral has been in an up direction. If one looks back several hundred years, humanity and civilization has changed greatly - and for the good.

And yes, I realize that there have been great civilizations before ours that have been destroyed. Perhaps this pattern is also spiraling up and each time it is pushing humans to a higher consciousness to the point where they won't destroy themselves.

There is a theory that how humans think and act effects Gaia - not just in how we are polluting her physically, but how we are polluting her emotionally with our anger, revenge, fear, etc. She reacts to our explosive natures in the same way (volcanoes, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc.). In order to have a peaceful planet we must have peaceful societies.

I don't know if this is true, but it makes sense to me - and while most of us want world peace, how many of us create peace within our workplaces, families, communities, etc. It's been said that our planet is just a reflection of all our hearts. If we want things to change, first we must begin by setting our own hearts right.

I do feel Cliff is providing a service for those interested and his intentions are good. Did most of you listen to the Courtney Brown video posted in this thread. He made a reference to some exciting news that his non-profit will be announcing soon.

[eaglespirit]

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post679621

[MargueriteBee]

It kinda feels feels like swimming down the river and avoiding the big rocks.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

No matter what the "future" holds, I am continuing to live my life in the present in exactly the same way. Peace.
"No one here gets out alive" ~ Jim Morrison

[skippy]

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
I understand what you are saying about predictions and I agree that end times have always been predicted - HOWEVER, from my perspective many other things have changed dramatically in our historical times and the spiral has been in an up direction. If one looks back several hundred years, humanity and civilization has changed greatly - and for the good.

Hello Ba-ba-Ra. I see where you coming from, and this tells me that most humans basically do wish and want good. At the same time there is an evolutionary process going on downward to the innermost of the spiral where there is no way back only the unavoidable break-through. To speak about this, is a tricky business.

I add here a video of Terence Mckenna while it's timely and relevant: "You know, Nietzsche, a hundred years ago, said "That strangest of all guests now stands at the door." He was speaking of nihilism, and certainly the 20th century sat down, had the party, drank the booze and went to bed with nihilism, but now a stranger guest stands at the door, and it is the AI." From Terence Mckenna: Shamans among the Machines.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J5yOaTgWu6Y

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Posted by skippy (here)

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
I understand what you are saying about predictions and I agree that end times have always been predicted - HOWEVER, from my perspective many other things have changed dramatically in our historical times and the spiral has been in an up direction. If one looks back several hundred years, humanity and civilization has changed greatly - and for the good.

Hello Ba-ba-Ra. I see where you coming from, and this tells me that most humans basically do wish and want good. At the same time there is an evolutionary process going on downward to the innermost of the spiral where there is no way back only the unavoidable break-through. To speak about this, is a tricky business.

I add here a video of Terence Mckenna while it's timely and relevant: "You know, Nietzsche, a hundred years ago, said "That strangest of all guests now stands at the door." He was speaking of nihilism, and certainly the 20th century sat down, had the party, drank the booze and went to bed with nihilism, but now a stranger guest stands at the door, and it is the AI." From Terence Mckenna: Shamans among the Machines.

Skippy, I completely see your point. There does seem to be two teams, one spiraling up and one spiraling down and, IMO, the one spiraling down does seem to be in control as they hold the power. This, from my perspective is why Mother Earth is acting up. I don't know if those of us that are spiraling up, can keep this thing going in the right direction or if we should spend time trying. Each person will decide their role, some by default.

I do feel that there are many levels of consciousness (many of which we're not yet aware of) - I have had some experiences where this has been so for me. Yet, to date, I have not maintained access for any length of time or seemingly by choice (meaning permanently jumping to another timeline or dimension and staying there) and I don't even know if that's possible. I only know that my own life has changed dramatically for the good since I've been studying and applying what I've learned.

Thanks Skippy for the Terence Mckenna video. I actually was at that presentation - good memories.

P.S. I recommend watching this video - lots of good info and very timely.