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    Companies like Monsanto (GMO producers) have such a tight grip on farming and have taken full advantage of our legal system to escalate their agenda, and squash any one who might oppose them. They are like the plant in the Little Shope of Horrors: "Feed me, feeeeed me." Or, a virulent disease that has spread like a wild fire.

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    This movie really connects the dots! Thank you Mercedes.

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    The Monsanto corporation is a corporate bio-terrorist.

    Poisoning people with toxic food is a very profitable, apparently. Monsanto's profits are at a record high right now.

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    This movie really connects the dots! Thank you Mercedes.
    You are very welcome grannyfranny100! My pleasure to share with all

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    The Monsanto corporation is a corporate bio-terrorist.

    Poisoning people with toxic food is a very profitable, apparently. Monsanto's profits are at a record high right now.
    Yes, it really bafles me to see how little they care for all life.

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    Monsanto's profits are at a record high right now. but who is buying them? Monsanto is receiving such adverse coverage - in the mainstream media and alternative - I don't understand why anyone is buying their seeds not to forget their long and dirty history with products such as Agent Orange, rBGH and Aspartame just to a few.

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    Monsanto is one of the illuminati's tools for control of the masses and implementation of the new world order through their deceptive practices.

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    I understand the numerous problems with Monsanto food and gmo in general . . . but I always come back to the same basic question that no seems to even attempt to answer.

    Monsanto and global corporate farming feeds ALL the third world countries . . . is this a perfect healthy food . . . NO . . . but it fills their tummies and has greatly reduced the horrific starvation of the people in these countries. Who here is old enough to remember the commercials and tv programs of the starving people and children of the 70’s and 80’s?

    I read the posts and see the activists and protests against Monsanto and the vehement cries that these companies and farms be shut down immediately.

    But I keep coming back to the same question and thought . . . . if we were able to eliminate Monsanto and gmo food tomorrow or in the next 5 years or even 20 years, who would feed the people in the third world countries and even the poor in all other countries?

    It seems no one understands that if Monsanto and gmo food were gone there is NOTHING to take its place and millions would starve.

    If Monsanto and controllers really wanted to starve and murder millions or maybe billions of people, all they would have to do is stop farming gmo food. In a matter of months there would be NO FOOD for the majority of the world’s population. The only people who would live are those of us who raise our own food and the people in our immediate community.

    I hear the protests and claims of how much Monsanto and subsidiaries are hated but what are the people that voice this hatred doing to make the elimination of gmo food possible?

    Look around you . . .in your house . . . your neighborhood . . . your grocery stores they are filled and I mean filled with food or products made from gmo global corporate farming. Even something as simple as bottled water . . .guess what that plastic bottle is made of (more than likely) . . . . gmo corn and specifically the corn that was genetically modified in the late 90’s to produce ethanol fuel.

    So again I ask, who is doing what to make the elimination of Monsanto and gmo food possible? How would YOU feed billions of people?

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    I am afraid "starving people and children of the 70’s and 80’s?" STILL EXIST but are not reported in the same way, also famine sweeps through many countries of Africa in a cycle so famine is a regular occurrence but not so newsworthy these days.

    Dig a little deeper and you will find the same problems are still there mainly because of corruption and greed on the part of politicians and Corporate entities.

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    Look I understand all of that (corruption and greed of politicians and people) but I choose not to get mired in that same story.

    And yes famine still exists and growing with our changing climate but it is gmo food that is addressing both of these global problems and ONLY companies like Monsanto and subsidiaries.

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    Blufire, please provide statistical documentation that supports your premise that Monsanto is feeding the world's poor. I have never read anything that supports this viewpoint. Are your views supported in UN documentation or other international agricultural data? Or are your views presented in Monsanto or Monsanto subsidiary employee handbooks or newsletters? How have I missed this documentation; please provide your sources! Thank you!

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    The very documentation from all the anti-gmo and Monsanto sites and literature supports exactly what I am saying.

    90 to 95% of the global grains (rice, wheat, corn, soy beans, etc ) are genetically modified.

    So I would say that it is not hard to understand that if 90 to 95% of the food produced globally is genetically modified then this is what is feeding the world and unless you are growing your own food (as I do) then you are eating genetically altered food and using products made from those sources.

    It a hard troubling truth . . . . so if Monsanto were to disappear tomorrow so would many millions of people.

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    It a hard troubling truth . . . . so if Monsanto were to disappear tomorrow so would many millions of people.

    Blufire I appreciate your concern for the starving masses but automatically assuming that Monsanto is keeping those people alive is just buying into the simplistic public relations message that Monsanto employees produce for the gullible masses.

    Claims that Monsanto is supposedly feeding the world distracts from the real agenda of Monsanto which is to permanently disable all non-Monsanto seeds so that Monsanto is the ONLY producer of food in the world. And when that happens, the price of food will skyrocket and the billions who cannot pay Monsanto for the right to eat will die. That includes your children and grandchildren and my children and grandchldren, blufire.

    Monsanto is one of the most profoundly evil companies in existence. Do a basic internet search and learn about the toxic and deadly products that Monsanto has unleashed on humanity in past decades. The idea that privatizing the food production of humanity under the control of this one predatory private corporation is getting many people extremely worried.

    Please read the following evidence based report written by the following experts.
    • Michael Antoniou, PhD is reader in molecular genetics and head, Gene Expression and Terapy Group,King’s College London School of Medicine.
    • Claire Robinson, MPhil, is research director at Earth Open Source.
    • John Fagan, PhD is a leading authority on sustainability in the food system, biosafety, and GMO testing.


    GMO Myths and Truths

    Quote GMO Myths and Truths report Genetically modified (GM) crops are promoted on the basis of a range of far-reaching claims from the GM crop industry and its supporters. They say that GM crops:
    • Are an extension of natural breeding and do not pose different risks from naturally bred crops
    • Are safe to eat and can be more nutritious than naturally bred crops
    • Are strictly regulated for safety
    • Increase crop yields
    • Reduce pesticide use
    • Benefit farmers and make their lives easier
    • Bring economic benefits
    • Benefit the environment
    • Can help solve problems caused by climate change
    • Reduce energy use
    • Will help feed the world.

    However, a large and growing body of scientific and other authoritative evidence shows that these claims are not true. On the contrary, evidence presented in this report indicates that GM crops:
    • Are laboratory-made, using technology that is totally different from natural breeding methods, and pose different risks from non-GM crops
    • Can be toxic, allergenic or less nutritious than their natural counterparts
    • Are not adequately regulated to ensure safety
    • Do not increase yield potential
    • Do not reduce pesticide use but increase it
    • Create serious problems for farmers, including herbicide-tolerant “superweeds”, compromised soil quality, and increased disease susceptibility in crops
    • Have mixed economic effects
    • Harm soil quality, disrupt ecosystems, and reduce biodiversity
    • Do not offer effective solutions to climate change
    • Are as energy-hungry as any other chemically-farmed crops
    • Cannot solve the problem of world hunger but distract from its real causes – poverty, lack of access to food and, increasingly, lack of access to land to grow it on.

    Based on the evidence presented in this report, there is no need to take risks with GM crops when effective, readily available, and sustainable solutions to the problems that GM technology is claimed to address already exist. Conventional plant breeding, in some cases helped by safe modern technologies like gene mapping and marker assisted selection, continues to outperform GM in producing high-yield, drought-tolerant, and pest- and disease-resistant crops that can meet our present and future food needs.
    http://covvha.net/gmo-myths-and-truths/#.UaSv3NiwWun
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    The very documentation from all the anti-gmo and Monsanto sites and literature supports exactly what I am saying.

    90 to 95% of the global grains (rice, wheat, corn, soy beans, etc ) are genetically modified.

    So I would say that it is not hard to understand that if 90 to 95% of the food produced globally is genetically modified then this is what is feeding the world and unless you are growing your own food (as I do) then you are eating genetically altered food and using products made from those sources.

    It a hard troubling truth . . . . so if Monsanto were to disappear tomorrow so would many millions of people.
    So ... don't we shouldn't make Monsanto disappear tomorrow.

    Rather we should:
    1. Determine whether or not what food is grown from Monsanto products is healthy and the manner of its production is good for the planet.
    2. If the answer to the above is "no", then start figuring out how we can get there.
    If I were King of this planet for a few years, I would look to see how quickly and by what means we could replace Monsanto's more toxic products with healthier alternatives. I would probably dismantle Monsanto (and many other large corporations), and I would seek to lay down sufficient opportunities and incentives to encourage people to bring to market and adapt the healthier alternatives.

    Just because I don't want myself, or a few billion other humans, to starve to death in the interim does not mean that I support Monsanto's role in this.
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    I understand the numerous problems with Monsanto food and gmo in general . . . but I always come back to the same basic question that no seems to even attempt to answer.

    Monsanto and global corporate farming feeds ALL the third world countries . . . is this a perfect healthy food . . . NO . . . but it fills their tummies and has greatly reduced the horrific starvation of the people in these countries. Who here is old enough to remember the commercials and tv programs of the starving people and children of the 70’s and 80’s?

    I read the posts and see the activists and protests against Monsanto and the vehement cries that these companies and farms be shut down immediately.

    But I keep coming back to the same question and thought . . . . if we were able to eliminate Monsanto and gmo food tomorrow or in the next 5 years or even 20 years, who would feed the people in the third world countries and even the poor in all other countries?

    It seems no one understands that if Monsanto and gmo food were gone there is NOTHING to take its place and millions would starve.

    If Monsanto and controllers really wanted to starve and murder millions or maybe billions of people, all they would have to do is stop farming gmo food. In a matter of months there would be NO FOOD for the majority of the world’s population. The only people who would live are those of us who raise our own food and the people in our immediate community.

    I hear the protests and claims of how much Monsanto and subsidiaries are hated but what are the people that voice this hatred doing to make the elimination of gmo food possible?

    Look around you . . .in your house . . . your neighborhood . . . your grocery stores they are filled and I mean filled with food or products made from gmo global corporate farming. Even something as simple as bottled water . . .guess what that plastic bottle is made of (more than likely) . . . . gmo corn and specifically the corn that was genetically modified in the late 90’s to produce ethanol fuel.

    So again I ask, who is doing what to make the elimination of Monsanto and gmo food possible? How would YOU feed billions of people?
    you have fallen for the trick.it starts with the farmer...we..us..i..you..grow the food.non gmo.
    we have a total of 23 acres i could farm on...80 acres total if i had good reason.not much by today standards but i would be willing to grow crops .feed people non gmos crops.the farmers have bought into it just like the consumer.they are paid to grow the poison.what does jobs have to do with systematic destruction of the enviroment??..how does feedig poisonn and proven un healthy and toxic food to 3rd world nations that are starving solve the starvation problem unless depopulation is your agenda??? most dont have the luxury to grow there own food or raise there own meat in the usa.so what choice do they have when the food supply and products to grow the food supply have been hijacked?? if most would spend say 1 growing season on a iowa farm followed me around..followed the seed from birth to harvest.the mass death of insects..etc. this wouldnt be a debate.now what are WE gonna DO about it?? Thats where i am at.
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    I want to make myself VERY CLEAR . . . .for the forty eleventh hundred time . . . . I am NOT a supporter of Monsanto and subsidiaries.

    My very pragmatic view of life always seems to get me in trouble and very misunderstood.

    Paul I agree with your post 100%. Monsanto and related genetically altered food has many problems and overall and fundamentally is not holistically healthy food. Your point about developing healthier food systems is well taken.

    But at this point and because of my background as a large organic farm owner and working directly with conventional farmers, in the area of Kansas that I used to live, I do not feel that we will (globally) ever be able to dismantle corporations like Monsanto and related technology, nor should we.

    Pragmatically, because of the exponential growth of the global population there is literally no possible way . . . . and I mean NO POSSIBLE WAY . . . .for farmers to physically farm the hundreds of millions of acres that it takes to feed the billions of people they do.

    The technology that Monsanto has provided as far as food(?) production enables a farmer to literally farm (at least) 10x the land he would be able to in the way farmers did 50 years ago.

    50 years ago or the way I farm today (organically or naturally) the acreage has to be first plowed, harrowed, tilled, planted and then the rows cultivated at least three times during the growing season and then harvested, if there is a pest or fungal problem that has to be addressed with further field work and on and on. Farming in this manner, it is all a family farm can do to farm 80 acres and this is with pulling 16 to 20 hours a day during the growing season.

    Monsanto technology (and like) enables farmers to come in a field, spray once with an herbicide, come back through with tractors that ‘no-till plant’ 60 to 120 rows at a time, come back through once with herbicide spray again after weeds pop up and then harvest. Done.

    There is not enough hours in the day, days in the growing season or length of season in the growing areas to farm the hundreds of millions of acres that it takes to feeds billion of people. Period.

    So no Monsanto genetically altered food is not holistically healthy for organic beings. But at least it is providing something for people to eat that otherwise would starve,

    william r sanford72 . . . . farm your 80 acres, learn what it really takes to be a farmer growing your own food and especially in this dramatically changing environment. Actually for you and your family it would only take about 20 of those acres . . . .to produce all foods for an entire year.

    I stopped farming (large acreage) 3 years ago and moved from Kansas back to the Appalachian Mountains, for many reasons and one of them was the difficulty in farming in this changing erratic climate. I have watched small organic farm after another go under because of this weather we are now experiencing. And NO it is not the elite or whoever changing the weather . . . this is a natural cyclical event that I feel is further being perturbed by something. . . . what I will not address here.

    So no I have not been tricked and I am not a shill or mouthpiece for Monsanto. I look with my own eyes and with my own personal “boots on the ground” hard life experiences . . . .acknowledge the Truth I see and adapt accordingly.

    I understand the pitfalls of food that is not natural for biological beings but I am also practical enough to understand that without it there would be far far less biological beings.

    Grow your own food or learn how to counteract the effect of having to consume the only food that can be produced for the billions of people of our Planet.

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    i did learn how.we sold honey and veg.organic. for many years off our farm.even heirloom seeds.mellons ect.donated much to.for years my life consisted of traveling to local farmers markets and selling our wheres.joined garden groups..bee keeping clubs and the such.im no stranger to living by example.still do on many levels.we still live off the land.Iam sorry Bluefire i did not mean to pick on ya.forgive me.
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    Northstar respectfully . . . I have been researching genetically modified food and organisms since the early 80’s. I have watched the evolution of this technology carefully for 25 years and more.

    I taught classes on gmo’s and organic farming during these years as well as herbal medicine to heal and counter the effects of gmo food.

    I see regurgitated info after regurgitated info on Monsanto and related.

    But never and I mean never do I see anyone bringing up practical info on what to do about it. Everyone chooses their fate. I would bet the farm that most that post or write on gmo food and Monsanto still eat the damn stuff and then whine that no one is giving them any other options.

    It is no ones responsibility to feed you other than yourself. If that means finding a farmer or organizing a group of people to grow food, then DO IT! ‘Git ‘er Done!

    I will listen to activists or organizations when I see them relating all the information on gmo food pro and con and supportive info in each of those categories and along with practical ways for individuals to respond and be proactive . . . INSTEAD OF . . . bombardment after bombardment of negative fear filled regurgitated info of ‘oh my god, eat this and you will die’ crap.
    Yes . . .I’m a frustrated and angry . . .seems to be a normal state for me nowadays.

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    i did learn how.we sold honey and veg.organic. for many years off our farm.even heirloom seeds.mellons ect.donated much to.for years my life consisted of traveling to local farmers markets and selling our wheres.joined garden groups..bee keeping clubs and the such.im no stranger to living by example.still do on many levels.we still live off the land.Iam sorry Bluefire i did not mean to pick on ya.forgive me.
    No apologies needed . . . I have a very thick hide. I get constant barbs thrown my way because I do not ‘fit in’ with most of Avalon’s general flow. The ‘ole rebel that I am.

    It always lifts my heart when I see someone taking responsibility for their own fate and destiny. Good Luck and blessed growing!

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