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    #1 "The majority of people in developed countries spend at least some time interacting with the Internet, and Governments are abusing that necessity in secret to extend their powers beyond what is necessary and appropriate."

    #2 "...I believe that at this point in history, the greatest danger to our freedom and way of life comes from the reasonable fear of omniscient State powers kept in check by nothing more than policy documents."

    #3 "The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to."

    #4 "...I can't in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they're secretly building."

    #5 "The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything."

    #6 "With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your e-mails or your wife's phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your e-mails, passwords, phone records, credit cards."

    #7 "Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector, anywhere... I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President..."

    #8 "To do that, the NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. It ingests them by default. It collects them in its system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that's the easiest, most efficient and most valuable way to achieve these ends. So while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government, or someone that they suspect of terrorism, they are collecting YOUR communications to do so."

    #9 "I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinized most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians."

    #10 "...they are intent on making every conversation and every form of behavior in the world known to them."

    #11 "Even if you're not doing anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded. ...it's getting to the point where you don't have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life."

    #12 "Allowing the U.S. government to intimidate its people with threats of retaliation for revealing wrongdoing is contrary to the public interest."

    #13 "Everyone everywhere now understands how bad things have gotten — and they’re talking about it. They have the power to decide for themselves whether they are willing to sacrifice their privacy to the surveillance state."

    #14 "I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under."

    #15 "I don't want to live in a world where there's no privacy, and therefore no room for intellectual exploration and creativity."

    #16 "I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong."

    #17 "I had been looking for leaders, but I realized that leadership is about being the first to act."

    #18 "There are more important things than money. If I were motivated by money, I could have sold these documents to any number of countries and gotten very rich."

    #19 "The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. [People] won't be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things... And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it's only going to get worse. [The NSA will] say that... because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny."

    #20 "I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant."

    #21 "You can't come up against the world's most powerful intelligence agencies and not accept the risk."

    #22 "I know the media likes to personalize political debates, and I know the government will demonize me."

    #23 "We have got a CIA station just up the road – the consulate here in Hong Kong – and I am sure they are going to be busy for the next week. And that is a concern I will live with for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be."

    #24 "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end."

    #25 "There’s no saving me."

    #26 "The only thing I fear is the harmful effects on my family, who I won't be able to help any more. That's what keeps me up at night."

    #27 "I do not expect to see home again."

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    Default Re: 27 Edward Snowden quotes

    28#I'm F**ked

    Is the one you missed out.

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    Default Re: 27 Edward Snowden quotes

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    #28 might be:

    "Standing alone, I am vulnerable, and my story can be swept aside. But if everyone I know doing a job like mine were to speak out in public the way I know they've been doing in private, there would be hundreds of people all stating the truth in a chorus that could not be ignored. And then the world would change."

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    Default Re: 27 Edward Snowden quotes

    If he doesn't find another location soon he will be arrested and a one side court hearing, which will may be in camera.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    #24 "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end."

    #25 "There’s no saving me."

    #26 "The only thing I fear is the harmful effects on my family, who I won't be able to help any more. That's what keeps me up at night."

    #27 "I do not expect to see home again."
    Edward Snowden is a hero.
    Last edited by northstar; 14th June 2013 at 23:20.

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    #19 "The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change.
    ....
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    That's my biggest fear in general too ... that nothing will change anytime soon.

    I want my kids to experience another world than this one.

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    #28 might be:

    "Standing alone, I am vulnerable, and my story can be swept aside. But if everyone I know doing a job like mine were to speak out in public the way I know they've been doing in private, there would be hundreds of people all stating the truth in a chorus that could not be ignored. And then the world would change."
    We are many. They are few.
    Together, we have the power to stop this.

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    Default Re: 27 Edward Snowden quotes

    Maybe..Why Shouldn't I Work for the NSA?

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    #28 might be:

    "Standing alone, I am vulnerable, and my story can be swept aside. But if everyone I know doing a job like mine were to speak out in public the way I know they've been doing in private, there would be hundreds of people all stating the truth in a chorus that could not be ignored. And then the world would change."
    LOL yeah Bill I would like to be a fly on the wall of his old office and all those like the one he operated in (But thinking about that? that would make me just like the NSA!) who would be watching who in there now if he had said that as #28!
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    #13 "Everyone everywhere now understands how bad things have gotten — and they’re talking about it. They have the power to decide for themselves whether they are willing to sacrifice their privacy to the surveillance state."

    #14 "I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under."

    Chitragupta in Hindu mythology is responsible for tracking people through their lives. He works for Lord Yama (death). Capturing our souls?

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    Did you put this together yourself Bill?
    Those words are so gut-wrenching.
    I hope to God that we change.
    You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy. Desiderata - Max Ehrman

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    Why not just call the US government "god," and their policies: the "bible;" and the politicians, the "prophets," since the majority of people believe everything the government and media pump out is truth and for their well-being. (I'm kidding, laughing.) The government has become All Seeing, etc. And it's odd that this young man is sacrificing everything for saying publicly what a lot of us already know.

    Yet, Kali Yuga (the age of "strife, discord, quarrel, or contention") started in 3102 BC and the supposed 10,000-year Golden Age intercession started in 1989? Hmm.

    But I suppose we will all see what happens because besides "the government", there is a life outside and some wonderful things happening with people and their spiritual growth. Some people are already ignoring the government and going on a separate path. I think it is possible that the government may dissolve on its own once people reach a certain level of awakening and enlightenment because aggression really is lower chakra business, and "the government" is lower chakra business, too.

    It's sort of like the cartoon: "The Road Runner." Eventually we will outgrow/outrun "the government" and its silly machinations, and it will basically starve to death without sustenance. What happens if no one shows up at the polls or taxes are ignored? Perhaps there will be a mercy and the whole plot of buildings and politicians in Washington, DC, will be sucked into a giant fault resulting from an earthquake that backfired as a result of HAARP. Who knows? Laughing.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    #28 might be:

    "Standing alone, I am vulnerable, and my story can be swept aside. But if everyone I know doing a job like mine were to speak out in public the way I know they've been doing in private, there would be hundreds of people all stating the truth in a chorus that could not be ignored. And then the world would change."
    Is this going to be the thing that FINALLY makes Americans stand up and act in unison for the greater good ? If only

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    When Freedom Radiates & Truth Resonates, Tyranny Falls.

    Big Brother Surveillance Society is NOT there to "protect" you, but to protect the NWO Mafia, they know YOU gonna be -Mad as Hell- about their abuse of power !

    Hijacked Governments Legalize Corporate Crimes & Criminalizing Real Solutions: Suppressed inventions & Alternative Cures, google "When Healing Becomes a Crime" & "Hemp Revolution"

    "corporatism" = police enforcing new insane unconstitutional laws & regulations serving NWO Tyranny!

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    They are charging with spying for the Chinese and are trying to deflect all disscusions about the surveillance of all of us.Thats what everyone will talk about not the real problem.Most people will think about national sercurity not privicy issues.

    The idea of mass amounts of data being collected about everyone is hard for the normal joes to think really effects them. It is all ways someone elses problem and they are just trying to protect us from terrorism.

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    Quote Posted by northstar (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    #24 "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end."

    #25 "There’s no saving me."

    #26 "The only thing I fear is the harmful effects on my family, who I won't be able to help any more. That's what keeps me up at night."

    #27 "I do not expect to see home again."
    Edward Snowden is a hero.
    ... and a martyr

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    Most, are not us.

    Most, watch the nightly news... and believe it.

    Most, are still asleep.

    Most, do not believe... us.
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    Ron Paul: NSA Whistleblower Snowden in a 'Hero' // Ron Paul Blasts NSA Defenders On Piers Morgan: 'You're Justifying Dictatorship



    Ron Paul: NSA Whistleblower Snowden in a 'Hero'



    Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K89ClXEveeo



    Published on 10 Jun 2013


    Former GOP Presidential candidate Ron Paul says the Obama administration's program
    to collect data from Americans' phone calls is 'crazy' and that the president's claim that
    the administration isn't listening to your phone calls is untrue.





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    Ron Paul On CNN Destroys The NSA Over The Verizon Spying Scandal



    Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SjfS2cAaf1g



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    Ron Paul Blasts NSA Defenders On Piers Morgan: 'You're Justifying Dictatorship



    Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=znTk4XPH1Ys



    Published on 10 Jun 2013


    "To all of you who defend this nonsense, what should the penalty be for those who
    destroy the constitution?" - Ron Paul

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    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...235#post688235

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    Quote Posted by bogeyman (here)
    28#I'm F**ked

    Is the one you missed out.
    HaHa! Thanks for the laugh bogeyman

    ..but i'm afraid if he's f#cked, we're all f#cked as well.

    indeed, we *are* Edward Snowden.

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    Default Re: 27 Edward Snowden quotes

    I just emailed my uncle who is ex CIA these quotes, here is the correspondence, make of it what you will, I'm not even sure what he means.

    "So, Jeff, what do you conclude from all this? Remember what your own uncle has been up to his whole career."

    "Hi Uncle John, no conclusions as of yet, just concerns, I could never forget you Uncle John or what you've done for your country and its citizens. I'm certainly not saying that all agencies and men/women within them are bad, how could I say that when I have you as an amazing character witness, and Uncle Bob in the NSA. There does seem to be something strange going on in this world right now, I do not trust or believe in the current leadership across this planet, Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing, in my opinion. Check out "smart meters" that are being used in replace of electrical meters and what they are really for. more surveillance. I'm aware of the adage that if you're doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about, but can I be left alone in my own living room, can I make some toast without someone else knowing about it, just sayin.
    Love Jeff"

    I could have said alot more, however it just wouldn't register with him considering his background, old school CIA.

    !!!POST EDIT!!!!

    I was most incorrect, I've been chatting back and forth, and clearly I sold him way to short, he's quite aware, should've know, smart guy.
    Last edited by RUSirius; 15th June 2013 at 23:06.

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