Autism and "Rise of the Planet of the Apes"

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I know some people don't believe that vaccines can cause changes in neuronal structure and development, but I do. And for those of you who might enjoy a visual aid, I've found a reference to a similar phenomenon in popular Hollywood entertainment.



This week I watched a movie on HBO, a fairly recent one called "Rise of the Planet of the Apes". It was extremely fascinating in that it dealt with an aspect of modern science called "vertical transmission" of viral agents -- something all-too-real and all-too-concerning to many researchers of brain inflammation and non-typical neuronal development.

The premise of the movie was as follows: a powerful genetic research firm is working on a compound that is able to reverse the effects of Alzheimer's disease. They've made a viral agent called ALZ112 (I think that's what is was called in the film) that infects the simian (ape) brain and carries foreign DNA into the cells.

In the film, the viral DNA causes the subjected brain cells to repair themselves and ultimately accomplish what is known as "neurogenesis" -- something that I've studied in the context of marijuana and also vaccines. Neurogenesis is the process by which new nerve and brain cells arise and/or develop new dendritic connections to one another -- the basis of relative thought.

The ultimate result of the research in the film was a breed of "smart apes" who are able to pass the ALZ112 virus on to their offspring, effectively achieving intelligence surpassing that of humans. The original virus was ultimately ineffective when tested on a human subject, as the IMMUNE SYSTEM possesses important differences as compared to that of an ape or monkey. When the virus is changed to become more infectious, the unintended result in the story is brain damage and death in humans rather than acceptance of the virus.

Now, what does all this have to do with autism?

You might recall my earlier thread on the subject of SV-40, a polyomavirus known as "simian virus 40", a native inhabitant of monkeys and apes.

According to Wikipedia, SV40 infection in humans was initiated and reached epic proportion when the POLIO VACCINE was introduced many decades ago. Literally millions of human beings were contaminated unknowingly by this monkey virus -- throughout the entire vaccinated population. It is now known that this virus is vertically transmitted, from mother and father to child.

In 2011, in Rome Italy, scientists had a chance to conduct research on the post-mortem brains of autistic children. Their findings included something shocking: all of the altered brains suffered coincident polyomavirus infection, including SV40.

SV40 is a suspected cancer-causing agent and is known to lead to gliomas in some animals, possibly even humans. Gliomas are pre-cancerous growths in the brain that interrupt and change the entire neuronal landscape.

Now, knowing this, can you honestly say, you believe that "vaccines don't cause autism"?

I will never look at a needle the same way again.
It's amazing the kind of lessons you can learn from movies.
I would recommend watching this one -- if for nothing else, to understand the basic premise of genetic engineering through viral infection, and how a virus transmitted from mother to son could cause the organism to change from a known quantity to something completely unknown.

Michael Crichton said that within our lifetimes, we would have to face the idea of human-animal chimeras, and that we would have to decide whether to treat them with grace and acceptance, or reject them for being different than us.

Over and out,

Tesla!

p.s. gotta wonder about all those billionaires who invest in these experiments we call childhood vaccines. i call them experiments because the FDA refuses to test them for safety...

p.p.s. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15593
SV-40, A Deadly Cure?
http://www.viewzone.com/sv40.html

by Geraldo Fuentes

Editor's Note:

When we first ran Geraldo's first story, SV-40, A Deadly Cure? we thought it was a bit on the conspiratory side, but it seemed well researched. We were pleased that many other journalists also investigated the material, proving the sad truth that Geraldo reported in ViewZone.

Research has now firmly linked many of today's cancers with tainted virus vaccinations given in the early 1950s. Could there be any more shocking and horrific revelations like this? We didn't think so - but we were wrong.

The latest horror story is posted HERE: SV40 Part Two for you to ponder. As you read it, also do not forget the Black Americans that were knowingly infected with Syphilis or the soldiers made to march through the fallout of our nuclear bomb tests...

But first, read Geraldo Fuentes original story. Also, important new information is at the end of this story.

If you received a polio vaccination in the 50's,
you may have gotten more than you know...

Watch this!:Interview with Dr. Maurice Hilleman from Merck Pharmaceuticals on how they introduced SV-40 cancer virus in their vaccines and also how AIDs was introduced to the public from Africa!

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Causing-Virus

Bill Gates And The SV40 Cancer-Causing Virus


The new (GMO-DNA) vaccines contain SV40.

Wikipedia, in an article on DNA vaccination includes this reference to SV40:

"The SV40 promoter was conventionally used until research showed that vectors driven by the Rous Sarcoma Virus (RSV) promoter had much higher expression rates.[2] ... An example of DNA vaccine plasmid is pVAC, it uses SV40 promoter.


The SV40 Cancer Foundation, however, goes into more detail.

"SV40 was the 40th virus found in rhesus monkey kidney cells when these cells were used to make the polio vaccine. This virus contaminated both the Inactivated Polio Vaccine (IPV) created by Dr. Jonas Salk and the Oral or "Live" Polio Vaccine (OPV) created by Dr. Albert Sabin.

"In 1961, SV40 was discovered by Dr. Bernice Eddy of the National Institute of Health, Division of Biologics when she took the material used to grow polio vaccines and injected it into hamsters. Tumors grew in the hamsters. Her discovery was subsequently validated by Drs. Maurice Hilliman and Benjamin Sweet of Merck.


Children being fed sugar cubes with the oral polio vaccine. Circa 1961.

"Upon the discovery that SV40 was an animal carcinogen that had found its way into the polio vaccines, a new federal law was passed in 1961 that required that no vaccines contain this virus. However, this law did not require that SV40 contaminated vaccines be thrown away or that the contaminated seed material (used to make all polio vaccines for the next four decades) be discarded. As a result, known SV40 contaminated vaccines were injected into children up until 1963. In addition, it has been alleged that there have been SV40-contaminated batches of oral polio vaccine administered to some children until the end of the 1990's.

Dr. Robert Bell, once Vice President International Society for Cancer Research at the British Cancer Hospital said:

"The chief, if not the sole, cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been vaccination."

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

P.S. another weird one to research is "protein losing enteropathy", PLE for short, where the gut and brain are stripped of the vital compound known as "heparan sulfate".

When introduced into the human immune system, it is my understanding that Hepatitis B binds to sites rich in heparan sulfate, and an adverse reaction to this process can lead directly to PLE.

PLE, or "leaky gut" syndrome, is linked very closely to autism symptoms and may even constitute an aspect of the cause. After all, if the brain is inflamed and stripped of protective compounds, and if the gut is inflamed and likewise stripped of protective compounds, what's left to make us human?

We are what we eat, in other words!

AND we are what we INJECT into ourselves (and our children!).

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...paran-Sulfate-

[Flash]

Wow, Tesla, excellent research and conclusions. This is also telling me that you are personnally getting back on your two feet as well.

I am convinced that vaccines and their components, be some viruses or mercury, are damaging the children brains. May be a compounded effect, mercury for example mixed with viruses to make it worst.

I did not know about heparan sulfate, I knew abut leaky guts though, but not its triggering system. Very good post really.

How do you replace the missing heparan sulfate would therefore be my question at this point.

A biochemist Ph.D. that I had hired was telling me to repair the guts with no gluten, no milk protein, full of probiotics of all kinds (not the ones found in commercial yogurts). Hoping that a better intestine would lead to a better brain.

He was telling me that when a child has bad gut flora, as is usually the case in autistic children, it usually follows him all his life, gut flora being transmitted by the parents. And that compounded effects from the parents inability to produce right flora may affect further generations even if the first generation, the parent, seems alright. Same with diabetis studies I have read by the way, it is the third generation and further on that are affected by the famines the first generation had to go through.

He was also telling me that all autistic children had 3 components in the blood missing, all of them without exception, and that those 3 components had to be replaced lifelong, since these components were created from good functioning genes and that mutations or hampering of the genes created the lack of these components.

So, children with autism have to repair the gut flora for one, temporarily take top grade supplements (B1 and 6 and 12 amongst them) to replace the nutrients they have not been getting, and to supplement for the missing elements in their blood and being lifelong. They usually come back from autism when this is done properly.

This guy should write what he knows, he is getting old and may one day go with his knowledge.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Flash, have you heard of a disease called "pyroluria"?

It involves an imbalance in the bloodstream, a build-up of harmful compounds due to an inability to absorb and use key nutrients, such as the B vitamins.

The PhD you were talking to, he might not have heard about pyroluria or even necessarily believe in it,
but this disease very closely matches the description you've given above.


Personally, I believe pyroluria may have a lot to do with "bi-polar, schizophrenia, adhd, and autism" diagnoses.
At best, it seems that we are managing symptoms with existing remedies, and doing little or nothing to address the actual metabolic disaster being experienced by these people (and maybe even some of us!).


Gut flora -- you know, come to think of it, both of my parents had some stomach issues. My dad drank a lot, but still had a sensitive stomach.
My mom was bloated a lot, even when she was thin her waist wasn't tiny. I wonder if she was suffering from an intestinal imbalance, like those autistic kids do.
She had some symptoms of hypothyroidism toward middle age.

But the REAL bad guy, in my opinion, is BABY FORMULA. In my son's case, he was on this GMO corn-based crap for almost a year too long.
For kids with real metabolic trouble or genetic issues, baby formula can actually be deadly to the developing brain.
Why are we suddenly seeing "pre-biotics and probiotics" in everything this year?
Because they are covering their asses for starving our kids last year!

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P.S. Anyone think that PLE (protein losing enteropathy) being possibly affected by Hepatitis B vaccine has anything to do with the AIDS epidemic?
After all, homosexuals were used as guinea pigs by the NIH and others during the Hep B vaccine trials. And that's pretty much when AIDS started getting so bad.
I could be wrong, but... the simplest explanation is usually the correct one!

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What mainstream psychiatry is hiding from you:

p.s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_psychiatry

Orthomolecular psychiatry is the use of orthomolecular medicine for mental illness. The approach uses unorthodox forms of individualized testing and diagnosis to attempt to establish an etiology for each patient's specific symptoms, and claims to tailor the treatment accordingly, using a combination of nutrients, dietary changes and medications that are claimed to enhance quality of life and functionality as well as to reduce or eliminate symptoms and the use of xenobiotic drugs.

Abram Hoffer in the 1950s was the first major practitioner. Hoffer's therapies focused on using niacin, among other nutrients, to treat what he diagnosed as acute schizophrenia based on an unaccepted test. In 1973, a task force of the American Psychiatric Association examined niacin monotherapy of patient populations with chronic schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and rejected the practice along with the reliability of Hoffer's diagnostic approach.[1]

Pyroluria [edit]
Pyroluria (or malvaria from the term mauve factor) involves hypothetical excessive levels of pyrroles in the body resulting from improper hemoglobin synthesis.[13] Carl Pfeiffer believed that pyroluria is a form of schizophrenic porphyria, similar to acute intermittent porphyria where both pyrroles and porphyrins are excreted in the human urine to an excessive degree.[14] and orthomolecular psychiatrists have alleged that pyroluria is related to diagnoses of ADHD, alcoholism, autism, depression, down syndrome, manic-depression, schizophrenia, celiac disease, epilepsy, and psychosis.[15] Pfeiffer's methods have not been rigorously tested,[16] and pyrroles are not considered to be related to schizophrenia. Studies have either failed to detect hemopyrrole and kryptopyrrole in the urine of normal controls and schizophrenics, or found no correlation between these chemicals and mental illness.[17][18][19][20][21][22] Few, if any, medical experts regard the condition as genuine, and few or no articles on pyroluria are found in modern medical literature;[23] the approach is described as "snake oil" by pediatrician and author Julian Haber.[16]

[deridan]

i'll just go with some wacky stuff.
...here's a few processing stuff i might have thought,
autism is the tool the ptb use, to raise their new paradigm. ..well that's foolish

here's more real world. Good 'focus' focusing on how the biological leads to this condition,
here's another focusing rod:
plainly from the psychological and sociological.

parents should release their expectations. I dealt with an autistic kid once. his mother was wrecked by having her kid out of the status queue.
..why could her kid not be more normal, do the other nice things which other kids did,,, it wrecked her.(& i got a nice curse in return for acting in confounding ways to her expectation), especially since she had a public profile.

if one has these problems, ..the biologic is a good thing to fix, ...but look into socionic and interactive models to, from parent right through to kid.
{this forum is not the place for it, but one of the 16-archtype personalities comes pretty close to autistic spectrum. Though Autism as a true biological, dare I say shortfall, condemns others from the 16 archtypes to the mold}

then again, people nowadays don't know how to parent. Cities, and spacing is also a problem

Greetings (-what i liked about the movie is that the caged instead of having to contend with more caging and decline, released the 'virus', so-that those who would have no more thought of them, needed them themselves to see day next)

[Flash]

i don't quite understand you train of thought Deridan, it seems that you jump from bilogical to social to psychological factor as the cause or the consequence? I do not know. As well, one experience with one autistic who's mother was desperate (it is usually not because they are public figure, it is because they know what nightmare they will be living as adults in this thankless society) does not explain autism and the difficulties encountered..

There is also wide differences in between different types of autism and in between different children.

Can you give more info on the socionic and interactive models??

Thanks

It is neat to be in the solution mode Tesla, i will check into what you write no doubts.

PS: as a psychologist once told me, when there is something wrong with a child, the parent is blamed by others and blaming himself too.
When everything goes fine with one's child, the parent takes the credit as being a good parent and knowing how to do parenting and blames the others with problematic children for being bad at parenting.

If you did not live the personal tragedies of children with difficulties, be it cancer, car accident or autism, you cannot truly understand, sorry. No more than a men will ever be able to understand what it is to give birth. What remains in these case is true compassion, but few are able of it.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Here are a few other things that can accompany autism and are definitely not caused by the parents:

~difficult birth
~difficulty breast or bottle feeding
~inability of infant to make eye contact
~frequent head shaking/blinking
~food allergy (how can a parent cause that?)
~hypersensitivity to touch/texture/temperature/noise/etc.
~lethargy/hyperactivity
~irritable bowels
~stunted or accelerated growth, i.e. adrenal damage
~unusual activities such as rocking, self-harm i.e. hitting the wall
~fascination with textures and/or smells that others might find unpleasant
~fascination with moving objects such as wheels or a spinning coin
~inability to understand complicated speech
~requires visual aid in order to understand a timed event
~tendency to escape/run away from safety of home or yard in order to seek new sensory input
~inability to constructively process the presence/activities of more than a few people at once
~difficulty recognizing faces
~tendency to ignore stressful stimuli or overreact to stressful stimuli

I could go on and on forever, but I think the above list is pretty good in terms of what you see when you're dealing with autism and related illnesses.


Autism isn't just about being "different". It's about being DISABLED for life.

[judymoon]

Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
Here are a few other things that can accompany autism and are definitely not caused by the parents:

~difficult birth
~difficulty breast or bottle feeding
~inability of infant to make eye contact
~frequent head shaking/blinking
~food allergy (how can a parent cause that?)
~hypersensitivity to touch/texture/temperature/noise/etc.
~lethargy/hyperactivity
~irritable bowels
~stunted or accelerated growth, i.e. adrenal damage
~unusual activities such as rocking, self-harm i.e. hitting the wall
~fascination with textures and/or smells that others might find unpleasant
~fascination with moving objects such as wheels or a spinning coin
~inability to understand complicated speech
~requires visual aid in order to understand a timed event
~tendency to escape/run away from safety of home or yard in order to seek new sensory input
~inability to constructively process the presence/activities of more than a few people at once
~difficulty recognizing faces
~tendency to ignore stressful stimuli or overreact to stressful stimuli

I could go on and on forever, but I think the above list is pretty good in terms of what you see when you're dealing with autism and related illnesses.


Autism isn't just about being "different". It's about being DISABLED for life.

Something is causing the tremendous rise in cases of autisim, and it certainly isn't parenting skills.

Tesla - everytime I read one of your threads my heart goes out to you. You have some major challenges on your plate and it hasn't managed to take you down.

May a miracle happen for you and your son.

I would have gone under, if I had to carry your load.

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
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Literally millions of human beings were contaminated unknowingly by this monkey virus -- throughout the entire vaccinated population.

scratch that. nothing happens "unknowingly". it was done on purpose, of that i have no doubt.

on a side-note, i realize my opinion about eugenics is controversial and not shared by most people on the forum but imagine more and more children being born or turned into disabled people, who then may procreate and have disabled children of their own... the end result will be human extinction, but meanwhile, from a soul's perspective, you come to earth to experience physicality and what you get is a life full of misery and suffering (feeding extradimensional parasites) because all bodies you can choose to incarnate into are damaged in some way.

the pseudo-moralistic outcry against eugenics is part of the zionist/reptilian agenda, the "love & light" "we're so ethical it hurts" part.

people never see it this way if i talk with anyone about eugenics. all they see is the killing of human beings but not the lifelong suffering the souls have to experience because they're imprisoned in their bodies (feeding extradimensional parasites), against all natural processes which among animals would lead to the quick death of a disabled body by a predator, thus keeping the species strong and healthy, unlike humanity which is getting sicker and sicker.

what has to be done is getting rid of those who secretly poison and kill us, and then freeing those souls that are trapped in bodies that allow for almost nothing but suffering...which creates more suffering around them because like attracts like.

[deridan]

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..thank-you, I often don't get responders, ,,, ,don't take it personally: men may not give birth, but the child normally carries the family name (i have nothing to do with such men who lack this Victorian like element to their personal culture)
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..of my experience: I was doing EFL for these tots, ..i'm a naturally introverted person, and the said tot attached abit to me, as he may have sensed I shared some of his percularisisms. The most positive output for him, is that he started having these talking bouts,, though mother was happy she was a bit concerned that she could not understand much of what he said, probably cause he was mixing systems. Mostly he taught himself, ..abundant in visuals on his own whim (..his one outlet, as rightly they tried to keep him from becoming too self-involved through playing video-games,,, so his 'gaming field' became 'communication',..he may be last at times, but in his own time he'll shoot far ahead of his peers..{some would have the right to judge extraordinary talent}....also, in socio models, other children can be mean, they act in groups, but when he had enough, it was their turn,, poor boy did not respond well to what he thought as betrayal from at other times kinder peers)
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modifying some behaviours is like stepping into a mine field. One has to respond afterall,, too-much, as in a parent becoming overly disciplinarian or strict or angry, ..then you may develop complexes (& that is already to hard to elaborate on),..suggested would be a "slow-phasing" of a modifying behaviour. the kid may have to sleep on it several nights to get used to it, than only a -absolute reactive degree- can be introduced.
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of the interactive models. I'm a novice but I have my instincts.
You ('as a normal person') may react better to some people than others. Those who drew up the 16-personality archetypes from Jungian 'personality' preference processing, saw that its not merely as we perceive, i.e. i'm always an insider, that person is always an outsider, occupying one position in the archetypes means that the relative relations between us and others shifts {{sorry language is weak to say what I perceive,, you may better understand it from the following visual idea: http://socionics.us/relations.shtml}}

see (look at link first), you as a parent would be able to find out your Type, but for an autistic kid you could only make an assumption, hopefully you aren't in the position of supervisor + to your kid (as once assumed for a professor i was under), or another negative feedback relationship. {{the language on page is not tailored to what you want, but I'm sure you get the idea}}. You may then carefullly8 shift your [lets cross to new age now, ,,though i;ve always assumed energy healings] your outgoing vibrations, and whereever the kid is hidden in there conscious, they may peek out, their machinery will just respond
8 NOT CARELESSLY, your constance is still needed [and no doubt carefully recorded just like zebra young to their parents]
..
oh of this personal case I've known of, the father was one of those mathematical analytically types, the boys sib was a normal kid, though falling in the MTBI category of -S-J, so I assumed good things for the kid longterm, though writing was at that stage already something he'd never practised into the correct system, and badly something he'd grown a strong aversion to, as teachers may push the slower unnecassarily just to have everyone on par. So much care is needed when placing the basics into these brilliant minds

[Flash]

The Truth, in that case, you would have killed

Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, Drew Carray, Jim Carrey, Winston Churchill, Dan Aykroyd, Mozart, Van Gogh, Isaac Newton, Charles Dickens, Agatha Christie, Napoleon Bonaparte, Alfred Nobel, Leonardo Da Vinci, Edgar Allen Poe, Aristotle, THeodore Roosevelt, Lewis Carrol, Richard Burton, Handel, Pythagoras, Tchaicovski, Martin Luther, Socrates, Michael Jackson, Howard Hughes, Stephen Hawkins, Mao Zedong, John Nash, Bob Mosley, those all had some mental impediments from mood disorders to epilepsia, to schizophrenia, and the list goes on and on and on.

Now some with asperger, a form of autism:
Adam Young, multi-instrumentalist, producer and the founder of the electronic project Owl City.
Adrian Lamo, American computer hacker
Carl Soderholm, speaker in neuropsychiatric disorders
Clay Marzo, American professional surfer
Craig Nicholls, frontman of the Australian garage rock band, The Vines
Dan Aykroyd, comedian and actor: Aykroyd stated he has Asperger's, but some feel he was joking.
Daniel Tammet, British autistic savant, believed to have Asperger Syndrome
Daryl Hannah, actress
Dawn Prince-Hughes, PhD, primate anthropologist, ethologist, and author of Songs for the Gorilla Nation
Gary Numan, British singer and songwriter
Heather Kuzmich, fashion model and reality show contestant on America's Next Top Model
James Durbin, finalist on the tenth season of American Idol
Jerry Newport, American author and mathematical savant, basis of the film Mozart and the Whale
John Elder Robison, author of Look Me in the Eye
Judy Singer, Australian disability rights activist
Liane Holliday Willey, author of Pretending to be Normal, Asperger Syndrome in the Family; Asperger syndrome advocate; education professor; and adult diagnosed with Asperger syndrome at age 35
Lizzy Clark, actress and campaigner
Luke Jackson, author
Michael Burry, US investment fund manager
Nicky Reilly, failed suicide bomber from Britain
Paddy Considine, actor
Peter Howson, Scottish painter
Phillipa "Pip" Brown (aka Ladyhawke), indie rock musician
Raymond Thompson, New Zealand scriptwriter and TV producer
Richard Borcherds, mathematician specializing in group theory and Lie algebras
Robert Durst, American real estate developer accused of murder
Robert Napper, British murderer
Satoshi Tajiri, creator and designer of Pokemon
Tim Ellis, Australian magician and author
Tim Page, Pulitzer Prize-winning critic and author
Travis Meeks, lead singer, guitarist and song writer for acoustic rock band Days of the New.
Vernon L. Smith, Nobel Laureate in Economics
William Cottrell, student who was sentenced to eight years in jail for fire-bombing SUV dealerships

Now, those with speech impediments: Bruce Willis, Tiger Woods, Julia Roberts, Robert Merill, Anthony Quins, Jimmy Stewart, Eric Roberts, Samuel L Jackson, ARistotle, Churchill, Darwin, Newton, Roosevelt, Jefferson, Demosthene, few kings, Prince Albert of Monaco, and the list goes on and on.

Dyslexia: Agatha Christie, Einstein (he was quite attacked, compulsive, dyslexia, add, etc), Alexander Graham Bell, Da Vinci, Cher, Magic Jonhson, Tom Cruise, Whoopi Goldberg, Walt Dysney, Woodrow Wilson, George Patton, Harry Bellafonte, Richard Branson (whose mother was schizophrenic by the way), Jay Leno, and it goes on and on and on.

So tell me, when you kill, where do you start and where do you stop?

As you can see, when given a chance, lots of impediments can be overcome (not cured necessarily, but overcome). You have to be given the chance though. Most of the actual medicine knows how to cure or help to overcome, and most know how detrimental the actual poisoning of human is. This is where one should start.

Compassion, empathy and true genuine love. Not difficult to give instead of killing. And I am not talking of the race here, the race is being poisoned and the empathy cerebral parts being destroyed, we will end up with very few real human. Those doing this have never been considered for eugenics, they are the one pushing it on others when they should get some of it, we call that in psychology projection/transfer. What one is or does is put on others back.

[Flash]

Wow, this socionic stuff is really interesting. It is always very nice to know what has been done in other parts of the world, my culture is much too American dominated. Here the site: http://socionics.us/relations

behavior modification has to be slowly introduced but need constant, always the same repetitions, no going away for it (for example, eating ice cream when usually we do not at this time). The strict approach can be relaxed when the behaviors are well established.

One thing that is often forgotten is that, before beginning anything, the child has to have trust in you. And you have to love him, it will transpire in every thing you do and the child will feel it. Also, those with the kid, if they love the kid, will adapt their expectations to reality, for example, 5% improvement is acceptable (while 50% would be wanted for other children), all this with love and patience and help.

Food and all chemical have to be taken into account with most disease that have a mental component, even schizophrenia is relieved with proper food intake and enviornmental chemical check out as well as environmental stressers.

The problem often comes from the lack of support to the parents and the lack of understanding of the problematic from most people. Judgment is really prevalent when dealing with chlidren difficulties. Everybody knows what should be better than the parent, it is how it is felt. Only those working in the field for a long while seem to understand sometimes.

I am still on the eugenics track: what if these children were here to process some karma of their own for one, and to make us process some karma (learning situation) of our own too? What if we have to learn to love, or to teach, or to accept, or ........ with them.

Posted by deridan (here)
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..thank-you, I often don't get responders, ,,, ,don't take it personally: men may not give birth, but the child normally carries the family name (i have nothing to do with such men who lack this Victorian like element to their personal culture)
...
..of my experience: I was doing EFL for these tots, ..i'm a naturally introverted person, and the said tot attached abit to me, as he may have sensed I shared some of his percularisisms. The most positive output for him, is that he started having these talking bouts,, though mother was happy she was a bit concerned that she could not understand much of what he said, probably cause he was mixing systems. Mostly he taught himself, ..abundant in visuals on his own whim (..his one outlet, as rightly they tried to keep him from becoming too self-involved through playing video-games,,, so his 'gaming field' became 'communication',..he may be last at times, but in his own time he'll shoot far ahead of his peers..{some would have the right to judge extraordinary talent}....also, in socio models, other children can be mean, they act in groups, but when he had enough, it was their turn,, poor boy did not respond well to what he thought as betrayal from at other times kinder peers)
..
..
modifying some behaviours is like stepping into a mine field. One has to respond afterall,, too-much, as in a parent becoming overly disciplinarian or strict or angry, ..then you may develop complexes (& that is already to hard to elaborate on),..suggested would be a "slow-phasing" of a modifying behaviour. the kid may have to sleep on it several nights to get used to it, than only a -absolute reactive degree- can be introduced.
...
of the interactive models. I'm a novice but I have my instincts.
You ('as a normal person') may react better to some people than others. Those who drew up the 16-personality archetypes from Jungian 'personality' preference processing, saw that its not merely as we perceive, i.e. i'm always an insider, that person is always an outsider, occupying one position in the archetypes means that the relative relations between us and others shifts {{sorry language is weak to say what I perceive,, you may better understand it from the following visual idea: http://socionics.us/relations.shtml}}

see (look at link first), you as a parent would be able to find out your Type, but for an autistic kid you could only make an assumption, hopefully you aren't in the position of supervisor + to your kid (as once assumed for a professor i was under), or another negative feedback relationship. {{the language on page is not tailored to what you want, but I'm sure you get the idea}}. You may then carefullly8 shift your [lets cross to new age now, ,,though i;ve always assumed energy healings] your outgoing vibrations, and whereever the kid is hidden in there conscious, they may peek out, their machinery will just respond
8 NOT CARELESSLY, your constance is still needed [and no doubt carefully recorded just like zebra young to their parents]
..
oh of this personal case I've known of, the father was one of those mathematical analytically types, the boys sib was a normal kid, though falling in the MTBI category of -S-J, so I assumed good things for the kid longterm, though writing was at that stage already something he'd never practised into the correct system, and badly something he'd grown a strong aversion to, as teachers may push the slower unnecassarily just to have everyone on par. So much care is needed when placing the basics into these brilliant minds

[deridan]

...may I also recommend doing astrological profiling of such kids.
..for instance, my own splutterings took me through abit of psychology and biology, and years later when I got into astrology, I saw gee-whiz, how why, ..those interests were indicated in my astrological profiles.
It would as such help to profile a kid, so-that you may know which knowledge domains would stimulate that kid. It gives them wings to soar

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I actually do put some belief into astrological profiles!
Apparently Carl Jung did, and noticed a lot of correlation between what was expected and what was real.

In regards to people with disabilities: I wish they came with instruction manuals so that we could make their lives less miserable.
If I had come into motherhood knowing from the beginning that my son would be so different,
things that have happened may never have happened.
He might still be with me.

p.s. My son was born on a New Year's day, 01/01! Very special little hero! imo!

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Flash (here)
The Truth, in that case, you would have killed

Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, Drew Carray, Jim Carrey, Winston Churchill, Dan Aykroyd, Mozart, Van Gogh, Isaac Newton, Charles Dickens, Agatha Christie, Napoleon Bonaparte, Alfred Nobel, Leonardo Da Vinci, Edgar Allen Poe, Aristotle, THeodore Roosevelt, Lewis Carrol, Richard Burton, Handel, Pythagoras, Tchaicovski, Martin Luther, Socrates, Michael Jackson, Howard Hughes, Stephen Hawkins, Mao Zedong, John Nash, Bob Mosley, those all had some mental impediments from mood disorders to epilepsia, to schizophrenia, and the list goes on and on and on.

Now some with asperger, a form of autism:
Adam Young, multi-instrumentalist, producer and the founder of the electronic project Owl City.
Adrian Lamo, American computer hacker
Carl Soderholm, speaker in neuropsychiatric disorders
Clay Marzo, American professional surfer
Craig Nicholls, frontman of the Australian garage rock band, The Vines
Dan Aykroyd, comedian and actor: Aykroyd stated he has Asperger's, but some feel he was joking.
Daniel Tammet, British autistic savant, believed to have Asperger Syndrome
Daryl Hannah, actress
Dawn Prince-Hughes, PhD, primate anthropologist, ethologist, and author of Songs for the Gorilla Nation
Gary Numan, British singer and songwriter
Heather Kuzmich, fashion model and reality show contestant on America's Next Top Model
James Durbin, finalist on the tenth season of American Idol
Jerry Newport, American author and mathematical savant, basis of the film Mozart and the Whale
John Elder Robison, author of Look Me in the Eye
Judy Singer, Australian disability rights activist
Liane Holliday Willey, author of Pretending to be Normal, Asperger Syndrome in the Family; Asperger syndrome advocate; education professor; and adult diagnosed with Asperger syndrome at age 35
Lizzy Clark, actress and campaigner
Luke Jackson, author
Michael Burry, US investment fund manager
Nicky Reilly, failed suicide bomber from Britain
Paddy Considine, actor
Peter Howson, Scottish painter
Phillipa "Pip" Brown (aka Ladyhawke), indie rock musician
Raymond Thompson, New Zealand scriptwriter and TV producer
Richard Borcherds, mathematician specializing in group theory and Lie algebras
Robert Durst, American real estate developer accused of murder
Robert Napper, British murderer
Satoshi Tajiri, creator and designer of Pokemon
Tim Ellis, Australian magician and author
Tim Page, Pulitzer Prize-winning critic and author
Travis Meeks, lead singer, guitarist and song writer for acoustic rock band Days of the New.
Vernon L. Smith, Nobel Laureate in Economics
William Cottrell, student who was sentenced to eight years in jail for fire-bombing SUV dealerships

Now, those with speech impediments: Bruce Willis, Tiger Woods, Julia Roberts, Robert Merill, Anthony Quins, Jimmy Stewart, Eric Roberts, Samuel L Jackson, ARistotle, Churchill, Darwin, Newton, Roosevelt, Jefferson, Demosthene, few kings, Prince Albert of Monaco, and the list goes on and on.

Dyslexia: Agatha Christie, Einstein (he was quite attacked, compulsive, dyslexia, add, etc), Alexander Graham Bell, Da Vinci, Cher, Magic Jonhson, Tom Cruise, Whoopi Goldberg, Walt Dysney, Woodrow Wilson, George Patton, Harry Bellafonte, Richard Branson (whose mother was schizophrenic by the way), Jay Leno, and it goes on and on and on.

So tell me, when you kill, where do you start and where do you stop?

As you can see, when given a chance, lots of impediments can be overcome (not cured necessarily, but overcome). You have to be given the chance though. Most of the actual medicine knows how to cure or help to overcome, and most know how detrimental the actual poisoning of human is. This is where one should start.

Compassion, empathy and true genuine love. Not difficult to give instead of killing. And I am not talking of the race here, the race is being poisoned and the empathy cerebral parts being destroyed, we will end up with very few real human. Those doing this have never been considered for eugenics, they are the one pushing it on others when they should get some of it, we call that in psychology projection/transfer. What one is or does is put on others back.

see, people like you don't event want to understand what i'm talking about. they're making assumptions based on things i didn't say.

i'm not talking about killing people but about freeing souls from imprisonment in defective bodies.

i'm talking about freeing those souls that are incapable of living and providing for themselves in their damaged bodies. that does not include people with minor problems and those made-up diseases of today that are mostly due to the deliberate poisoning of humans through various means. eliminate the poison and you eliminate the "disease".

besides, human bodies are merely containers. the souls who are able to contribute positively to human development would be able to do much more good if given healthy bodies to incarnate into, as opposed to defective ones they may currently inhabit.

keeping souls imprisoned in defective bodies does more harm to the soul through pain, trauma etc. than freeing them so they can reincarnate again in healthy ones.

whenever i don't know what would be the "right" thing to do i ask myself what would mother nature do. the answer where defective bodies are concerned is very obvious. eugenics is the natural thing. what's running today is an unnatural anti-life program with a sugar-coating, but that's part of the agenda to destroy humanity.

some may say...well, what if these souls want to incarnate into defective bodies to experience lifelong pain, trauma, suffering and misery?

the answer to that is - if the universe is "positive" and based on "love", as so many new agers claim, who would want to experience this or want anybody else to experience it?

as i mentioned before - like attracts like, that is a universal law, so if you don't eliminate but instead amplify suffering by allowing for more and more suffering souls in defective bodies...who create even more suffering for those around them you're in a downward spiral of either eternally increasing suffering or, if you're lucky, total annihilation.

a different example - if you buy a tv and it's broken or shows only one channel, don't you return it to get a fully functioning one? or do you keep it and watch the dark screen or the one channel because the discomfort this creates helps you as a soul to grow more than a fully functioning tv would?

[Flash]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
The Truth, in that case, you would have killed

Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, Drew Carray, Jim Carrey, Winston Churchill, Dan Aykroyd, Mozart, Van Gogh, Isaac Newton, Charles Dickens, Agatha Christie, Napoleon Bonaparte, Alfred Nobel, Leonardo Da Vinci, Edgar Allen Poe, Aristotle, THeodore Roosevelt, Lewis Carrol, Richard Burton, Handel, Pythagoras, Tchaicovski, Martin Luther, Socrates, Michael Jackson, Howard Hughes, Stephen Hawkins, Mao Zedong, John Nash, Bob Mosley, those all had some mental impediments from mood disorders to epilepsia, to schizophrenia, and the list goes on and on and on.

Now some with asperger, a form of autism:
Adam Young, multi-instrumentalist, producer and the founder of the electronic project Owl City.
Adrian Lamo, American computer hacker
Carl Soderholm, speaker in neuropsychiatric disorders
Clay Marzo, American professional surfer
Craig Nicholls, frontman of the Australian garage rock band, The Vines
Dan Aykroyd, comedian and actor: Aykroyd stated he has Asperger's, but some feel he was joking.
Daniel Tammet, British autistic savant, believed to have Asperger Syndrome
Daryl Hannah, actress
Dawn Prince-Hughes, PhD, primate anthropologist, ethologist, and author of Songs for the Gorilla Nation
Gary Numan, British singer and songwriter
Heather Kuzmich, fashion model and reality show contestant on America's Next Top Model
James Durbin, finalist on the tenth season of American Idol
Jerry Newport, American author and mathematical savant, basis of the film Mozart and the Whale
John Elder Robison, author of Look Me in the Eye
Judy Singer, Australian disability rights activist
Liane Holliday Willey, author of Pretending to be Normal, Asperger Syndrome in the Family; Asperger syndrome advocate; education professor; and adult diagnosed with Asperger syndrome at age 35
Lizzy Clark, actress and campaigner
Luke Jackson, author
Michael Burry, US investment fund manager
Nicky Reilly, failed suicide bomber from Britain
Paddy Considine, actor
Peter Howson, Scottish painter
Phillipa "Pip" Brown (aka Ladyhawke), indie rock musician
Raymond Thompson, New Zealand scriptwriter and TV producer
Richard Borcherds, mathematician specializing in group theory and Lie algebras
Robert Durst, American real estate developer accused of murder
Robert Napper, British murderer
Satoshi Tajiri, creator and designer of Pokemon
Tim Ellis, Australian magician and author
Tim Page, Pulitzer Prize-winning critic and author
Travis Meeks, lead singer, guitarist and song writer for acoustic rock band Days of the New.
Vernon L. Smith, Nobel Laureate in Economics
William Cottrell, student who was sentenced to eight years in jail for fire-bombing SUV dealerships

Now, those with speech impediments: Bruce Willis, Tiger Woods, Julia Roberts, Robert Merill, Anthony Quins, Jimmy Stewart, Eric Roberts, Samuel L Jackson, ARistotle, Churchill, Darwin, Newton, Roosevelt, Jefferson, Demosthene, few kings, Prince Albert of Monaco, and the list goes on and on.

Dyslexia: Agatha Christie, Einstein (he was quite attacked, compulsive, dyslexia, add, etc), Alexander Graham Bell, Da Vinci, Cher, Magic Jonhson, Tom Cruise, Whoopi Goldberg, Walt Dysney, Woodrow Wilson, George Patton, Harry Bellafonte, Richard Branson (whose mother was schizophrenic by the way), Jay Leno, and it goes on and on and on.

So tell me, when you kill, where do you start and where do you stop?

As you can see, when given a chance, lots of impediments can be overcome (not cured necessarily, but overcome). You have to be given the chance though. Most of the actual medicine knows how to cure or help to overcome, and most know how detrimental the actual poisoning of human is. This is where one should start.

Compassion, empathy and true genuine love. Not difficult to give instead of killing. And I am not talking of the race here, the race is being poisoned and the empathy cerebral parts being destroyed, we will end up with very few real human. Those doing this have never been considered for eugenics, they are the one pushing it on others when they should get some of it, we call that in psychology projection/transfer. What one is or does is put on others back.

see, people like you don't event want to understand what i'm talking about. they're making assumptions based on things i didn't say.

i'm not talking about killing people but about freeing souls from imprisonment in defective bodies.

i'm talking about freeing those souls that are incapable of living and providing for themselves in their damaged bodies. that does not include people with minor problems and those made-up diseases of today that are mostly due to the deliberate poisoning of humans through various means. eliminate the poison and you eliminate the "disease".

besides, human bodies are merely containers. the souls who are able to contribute positively to human development would be able to do much more good if given healthy bodies to incarnate into, as opposed to defective ones they may currently inhabit.

keeping souls imprisoned in defective bodies does more harm to the soul through pain, trauma etc. than freeing them so they can reincarnate again in healthy ones.

whenever i don't know what would be the "right" thing to do i ask myself what would mother nature do. the answer where defective bodies are concerned is very obvious. eugenics is the natural thing. what's running today is an unnatural anti-life program with a sugar-coating, but that's part of the agenda to destroy humanity.

some may say...well, what if these souls want to incarnate into defective bodies to experience lifelong pain, trauma, suffering and misery?

the answer to that is - if the universe is "positive" and based on "love", as so many new agers claim, who would want to experience this or want anybody else to experience it?

as i mentioned before - like attracts like, that is a universal law, so if you don't eliminate but instead amplify suffering by allowing for more and more suffering souls in defective bodies...who create even more suffering for those around them you're in a downward spiral of either eternally increasing suffering or, if you're lucky, total annihilation.

a different example - if you buy a tv and it's broken or shows only one channel, don't you return it to get a fully functioning one? or do you keep it and watch the dark screen or the one channel because the discomfort this creates helps you as a soul to grow more than a fully functioning tv would?

see, people like you don't event want to understand what i'm talking about.

I understand very well, I also saw that you do not mentioned killing. So, how do you free the souls in question, from their twisted bodies? This kind of eugenism has been mentioned, used and abused since the last world war.

Freeing souls from imprisonment in defective bodies: please, give me a break.

Who are you to decide or judge that the soul has to be freed from a body? How do you know if that same soul has not chosen that precise body in order to accomplish its soul's mission or solve some karma or yet have soul learning for a better or faster evolution ? Have you also forgotten, or ever known, that the helpers may have had a soul contract to help as well, that it may overall be beneficial for them as well?

It is people like you who do not understand the necessities of spiritual evolution, in my view.

the souls who are able to contribute positively to human development would be able to do much more good if given healthy bodies to incarnate into, as opposed to defective ones they may currently inhabit.

How do you know this? Which kind of outstanding evolution and awakening have you been through to affirm this? Tell me, how do you weight a soul contribution?

like attracts like, that is a universal law, so if you don't eliminate but instead amplify suffering by allowing for more and more suffering souls in defective bodies...who create even more suffering for those around them you're in a downward spiral of either eternally increasing suffering or, if you're lucky, total annihilation.

This is incredible. I have seen in my life more people growing and getting much much better through pain than through any other mean. I am sorry to say, but it seems that human beings still need pain in order to grow, evolve, develop more empathy and finally learn to love and live.

We can measure the evolution of a race or a specie based on the way they take care of their most fragile ones.

You are showing us precisely where our specie stands at the present times by those comments.

And then you compare the situation about people having crippling handicaps with a broken tv set. Oh please, go to take courses for the better development of your right brain hemisphere, at the minimum.

I am very rarely insulting people on this forum. But I truly think you need a knock on the head. No wonder you think this is a doomed planet (your avatar). The kind of thinking you show off here is the measure of it.

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Flash (here)
We can measure the evolution of a race or a specie based on the way they take care of their most fragile ones.

i don't quote your entire post here, just this tiny piece but please explain to me these things:

- why are bodies in which souls are incapable of providing for themselves due to certain defects eliminated in nature?

this happens in all species except humans. animals do it instinctively - letting defective offspring die or be eaten (examples - birds who can't fly, fish who are not strong enough to swim certain distances, land animals who are not fast enough to outrun predators, etc.)

- what do you think happens if people with genetic defects are allowed to procreate and these defects are inherited by their offspring? will that improve the species?

- how long do you think will it take for humanity to become extinct by going against nature and allowing their defective specimens to live, procreate and multiply due to a screwed sense or ethics?

- do you believe that humans stand above nature and should do things that go against nature and basic laws of creation, such as "the strong ones live and the weak ones die, otherwise the species perishes"? don't you think nature's laws will triumph over human laws in the end?

- would you like to have a mentally disabled child instead of a healthy one in order to grow more spiritually?

[Flash]

The truth, you are much too engrained in your way of thinking for me to answer to these questions.

this happens in all species except humans. animals do it instinctively

But, that is precisely what I am talking about, you named it here above.

Now, Stephen Hawkins who is still alive despite his sickness has brought much more to science than most, who are you to tell him his soul could not succeed its mission in his body? He seems to succeed quite well, maybe it would not have without this crippled body, have you though of this? Or Einstien would not have succeeded in making physics jumps to higher levels without ADD and what looks very much like dysphasia (which is quite crippling in communication unless steadily worked on), maybe he could not have been in contact with the stars. Have you thought of this?

Who are you to bring us back to the animals kingdom, maybe we are done with this side of development and we are going elsewhere.

May be our journey is precisely to learn how to build bodies from the mind and soul and by doing so, the most advance make the biggest mistake and are therefore learning. Who are we to judge the human plan?

[T Smith]

Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
P.S. another weird one to research is "protein losing enteropathy", PLE for short, where the gut and brain are stripped of the vital compound known as "heparan sulfate".

When introduced into the human immune system, it is my understanding that Hepatitis B binds to sites rich in heparan sulfate, and an adverse reaction to this process can lead directly to PLE.

PLE, or "leaky gut" syndrome, is linked very closely to autism symptoms and may even constitute an aspect of the cause. After all, if the brain is inflamed and stripped of protective compounds, and if the gut is inflamed and likewise stripped of protective compounds, what's left to make us human?

We are what we eat, in other words!

AND we are what we INJECT into ourselves (and our children!).

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...paran-Sulfate-

In the prophetic words of Bertrand Russell... "Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . .”

Great post Tesla... I assume you've read Dr. Mary's Monkey by Edward Haslam? If not, highly suggested reading, and an exclamation to the outstanding research you've done...

[T Smith]

Yes, Flash. Per my understanding, your biochemist friend is exactly right. Echoed by research (and success stories) here:

http://www.holisticapproach4autism.com