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    Thanx Ilie for your support I will work harder on it
    Best wishes and free energy to all
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    Hi Robert:

    I am on a roll with writing my essay, so I will try to be brief. Yes, as Ilie stated, when people have done their homework, sought experiences, and the like, their perspective won’t be my story, but their story. On me, books have been written about my journey with Dennis. I became Brian O’s biographer because I was the only person that he truly trusted outside of his family:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm

    I cannot overemphasize that the most painful part of my journey was Mr. Professor’s wrecked and prematurely ended life:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

    I never want to be responsible again, however slightly, for somebody’s wrecked life. The gung-hoers, who want to rush out and go “do something,” will not be part of the choir, as they will not be aligned with its intent. There are plenty of would-be heroes out there (and all are fools, to one degree or another - being a fool is a prerequisite, as I know well ), trying to scale the ramparts, which provide many suicidal opportunities for gung-hoers.

    The lessons that I hope to help people learn are about how the world works, particularly how energy runs the world and always has, and what the potential of abundant, environmentally harmless energy can be. That really is about it, and if enough people can do the work to learn the lessons, then the technical project of making FE happen would be easy, but there will be other benefits derived from building that choir. The choir that I have in mind has never been heard on Earth before, and it can have many positive effects besides just helping FE manifest for public use.

    As I have been writing, I have had many long conversations with people recently, including Dennis. I am ever more convinced that my approach will bear some fruit, but we will see just what it is. Keeping the lambs from undue risk will be my highest priority.

    I don’t plan to ever ask for money or ask the choir to do anything other than sing (after first learning the song), and if the day comes to “do something,” it will be totally transparent, totally voluntary, and almost entirely painless on a personal level. A big reason for the choir is to develop a group of people with a clue, and I hope that it helps obviate the need for heroes to save humanity from itself. I want Dennis to retire, because his heroics would no longer be needed.

    On a different subject, a new study on the extinction of the Australian megafauna was just published.

    http://www.livescience.com/37884-anc...pe-change.html

    I have seen a similar study on South American megafauna, where changing climate and the resulting change in vegetation was blamed instead of people. While the devil is in the details, and I have a lot of respect for scientific research, there is going to be bias, however unconscious, to exonerate humanity from responsibility for the megafaunal extinctions. Researchers have a high hurdle to overcome for exonerating humans regarding the Australian megafaunal extinctions:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_megafauna

    as well as the many other megafaunal extinctions that just happened to occur right after humans appeared:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

    On all the big islands, from Tasmania to New Zealand to Madagascar, humans clearly drove all the megafauna to extinction. Of that, there is no doubt. The only “doubt” is if humans could do it to continents, but the evidence is very rich for it. That mammoths survived on remote islands, for thousands of years after their continental brethren went extinct:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woolly_mammoth#Extinction

    is highly impressive evidence that humans drove the continental elephants to extinction. The climate change, disease, and bolide impact theories are all found to be wanting. What do over-hunting "skeptics" think that those early humans ate? The plant species would have been different in all of those new biomes, and dangerous to eat, but humans had already been Earth’s most carnivorous ape for millions of years, and the toolkit that allowed humans to spread across the planet in the second epochal event:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post693557

    was first and foremost about better hunting technology and tactics, and in those areas that had not seen humans before, the animals would have had no fear of humans, just like Antarctic penguins of today, or animals on the Galapagos Islands. Recent history is full of Europeans quickly driving island species to extinction, such as the Dodo and the Great Auk:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Auk

    There is a huge myth, promoted in many corners, that some groups of people, particularly indigenous ones, lived in harmony with nature. Humans have not lived in harmony with nature since our ancestors learned to control fire, which was the first epochal event. Each epochal event wreaked greater havoc on nature than the previous one, but a partial exception can be made for the Industrial Revolution, but only partial. With tapping the energy of fossil fuels, people were no longer dependent on wresting their energy directly from the photosynthetic stores of living plants and animals (or the organic matter in the soils). Deforestation actually has slowed down and even been reversed in many industrialized nations. As anybody familiar with my work knows, it has been a very mixed bag, but the benefits of industrialization have been dramatic and unprecedented. The FE Revolution, which would be the fifth and greatest epochal event, has the potential to reverse all of the environmental damage that people have been inflicting on the planet, and it would also raise the human standard of living by orders of magnitude, where we would live a Star Trek existence, where poverty, the scarcity-based “isms”:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    and other relics of scarcity would go into the dustbin of history, as slavery and the subjugation of women disappeared in industrial civilizations. And today, almost nobody can even imagine it! That is the mind-boggling part, for me. Even here at Avalon, I am aware of only two people who obtained Dennis’s The Alternative and began to really check out my story. Even The Alternative is only scratching the surface, but it is a start. What would become evident early on is that I have sacrificed my life for my path. That is a strange and stupid way for a conman to act.

    Anybody who wants to be part of the choir and has doubts about me, and who has not done the homework that is easily done by a little research, will not be part of the choir. Also, people who still put FE in the Buck Rogers category as some kind of fantasy will likely not be part of the choir. There is a great deal of investigation and study that people can do, to get past the idea that FE is “impossible” and that its organized suppression is just another wacky conspiracy theory. My upcoming essay is intended to help my readers understand the role of energy in our world, the potential of FE, and how it all fits together. I will do very little speculating, but only relying on my experiences and those close to me, and what the state of the art is in many areas of investigation, both scientific and otherwise. FE is real, and suppressed, and when people begin to understand the role of energy in our world, and what the potential of abundant, environmentally harmless energy is, and they begin to understand how nearly everybody is addicted to scarcity and is egocentric in the extreme, then the situation becomes very clear, if overwhelming and more than a little frightening, but this is not a realm for cowards, but the brave. But the only bravery that I am asking of the choir is to examine their scarcity-based beliefs and let them go for long enough so that they can imagine abundance, and learn to sing.

    But it will be the very rare person who can take that journey of discovery before somebody delivers an FE device to his or her home. But those are the people I seek, and I know that they are needles in haystacks, but I plan to take advantage of this new technology, the Internet, to find them.

    We will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Briefly, I was reading this today:

    http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com...recession.html

    I have referred to his work on this thread before, and he is a Peak Oiler, with FE being unimaginable to people like him (although I will contact him after I write my essay )

    The Peak Oil perspective is important in that it is about the only camp that I have seen of significance that openly acknowledges the huge debt that the industrialized world has to the energy released by burning fossil fuels. It is way too bad that they are blind to FE, as far as I have seen.

    A brief return to the Global Warming issue… With the American Southwest in the midst of an epic heat wave, global warming is again a hot topic, particularly the changes that are already happening to the biomes there:

    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/dis...change?refid=0

    There is not a professional scientist to be found who will deny that carbon dioxide traps radiation that leaves Earth’s surface, which will warm the atmosphere. Earth’s climate systems are some of the most complex phenomena that scientists have studied, with the state-of-the-art computer systems used to model climate behavior. In the past generation, the impact of ENSO:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ni%C...rn_Oscillation

    has become acknowledged by atmospheric scientists as the biggest variable in the world’s weather outside of the seasons. Earth has been in an ice age for the past 2.5 million years:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation

    and we are enjoying a brief summer between ice sheets which have been growing and receding at 100K intervals like clockwork for the past several hundred thousand years, which is related to the eccentricity in Earth’s orbit:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quatern...nomical_cycles

    Several general trends have brought on the current ice age, which include:

    1. Declining carbon dioxide content in the atmosphere, which has been declining for the past 150 million years, as Earth is becoming carbon starved. Carbon starvation may be the main reason why for Earth will only be able to host complex life for the next few hundred million years (see Ward and Brownlee’s The Life and Death of Planet Earth).

    2. The shifting continents. The continental plates are on a 500-million-year cycle that begins with a supercontinent which breaks up (and mass extinction episodes accompany that supercontinent, as we get Canfield Oceans https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eld#post528765), and then come back together after bouncing around the planet’s surface. We are around the midpoint of that cycle today. The Arctic Ocean is nearly landlocked, and land near the poles is a prerequisite for ice ages. The Antarctic ice cap began forming 40 million years ago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarct....80.9323_Ma.29 ). The collision of North and South America about three million years ago (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nge#post533612) may be the proximal cause of this ice age, but the debate still rages.

    3. When those dynamics above have their “ideal” confluence, then an ice age begins. Because advancing ice sheets tend to wipe out anything in their way, evidence of advancing and retreating ice sheets tends to get destroyed, but the 100K Milankovitch cycle is thought to be responsible for the advancing and retreating ice sheets over the past several hundred thousand years.

    Carbon dioxide content is definitely a big factor in atmospheric temperature. The sun’s output does not seem to fluctuate much (although the sun has been getting brighter over the eons, as stars of its type do, so ice ages were more prevalent in the distant past, with even "snowball Earth" episodes), but even minor fluctuations, such as the Maunder Minimum of sunspot activity:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum

    can still have profound influence on Earth’s inhabitability. As humanity always rode the ragged edge of survival before industrialization, relatively small changes in Earth’s temperature and distribution of precipitation often had catastrophic outcomes, with great droughts, flood, famines, wars, etc.

    Global Warming deniers have long been led by scientists who sold their souls to the hydrocarbon lobby. There are virtually no serious climate and environmental scientists who are not alarmed by today’s artificial increase in the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere. But the hydrocarbon lobby’s “scientists” have been clouding the issue for a generation, and our interest-conflicted media gives them an equal hearing with the public. Brian O was particularly disgusted with a colleague who became one the Global Warming deniers:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sold

    I am currently reading a book on global environmental history, and history is replete with instances where human-created environmental catastrophes were in the making and evident, and there were attempts to make changes to avoid the catastrophe, but the “the data is not all in” people often carried the day, because their primary message was “go about your business as usual,” which everybody wanted to hear, at least until it was too late. The Hydrocarbon Era that has powered the Industrial Revolution is a big chemistry and physics experiment, and the signs are very ominous. The Peak Oilers and others have said that we will run out of hydrocarbons before any catastrophic climate change occurs, but others are far from sure:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eld#post553228

    We could have humanity-threating environmental issues arise in the near future due to our hydrocarbon burning. The arguments that we just aren’t sure what the impact of increasing carbon dioxide means to Earth’s climate I consider to be largely fraudulent. We are not talking about some natural variation that might have a slightly higher or lower impact on the situation, but a human-induced one which is overwhelming all other dynamics. Phil Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum is a good introduction to these issues.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Before I go hiking this morning, I’ll make a brief comment on the Snowden circus:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...tect-mr-snowde

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...d-over-austria

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...pace-due-snowd

    I have known whistleblowers:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#whistleblower

    and I have been called one, but I am not some kind of insider who tells what dark things happen on the inside, with some minor exceptions:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#getting

    Whistleblowers have always had a hard time in any nation, and laws were passed in the USA to assist them, with us supposedly being The Land of the Free, but the Bush the Second administration actively skewered whistleblowers:

    http://www.whistleblowers.org/index....143&Itemid=153

    http://www.whistleblowers.org/index....sk=view&id=154

    http://www.truth-out.org/archive/ite...-epa-employees

    As I recall, during the Bush years, there were several hundred cases of whistleblowers being skewered, and the Bush administration did not defend even one of them. The Plame outing imbroglio only happened because The Bush Gang stepped too far over the line and outed an ambassador's wife. Obama is only continuing the policy:

    http://www.whistleblowers.org/index....927&Itemid=177

    http://www.whistleblowers.org/index....1442&Itemid=71

    That all of the world’s governments are standing by like cowards, not assisting the whistleblower, is SOP. The greatest threat to all the world’s governments is those they govern. They are all playing the same game of managing the herd for elite benefit, so it is no surprise that they are all united in skewering the whistleblower in this case. Pretty much only pariah nations such as Venezuela (a pariah simply because it has chosen to defy the imperial overlord) are considering taking in Snowden. The entire global power structure is fraudulent, and at levels far below where Godzilla plays, and the Snowden Saga is merely more evidence of it. The system is evil, and it is plainly evident for those with eyes to see.

    That bug in the Ecuadoran embassy is also par for the course.

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/globa...embassy/66823/

    When I was trading notes with a long-time associate of Dennis's recently, he told me that one day a bug fell off of his chair at one of Dennis's facilities. He gave it to Dennis. I have assumed that I had no privacy since 1987, and people interacting with me, at Avalon or anywhere else, who think that they can be anonymous and operate below the radar, are fooling themselves. Once in a while, we had events that showed the level of surveillance. Every American administration since Reagan knew who Dennis was, usually quite well:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#squeaky

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#yull

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post694872

    but the sitting American president is small fry on the global scale:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents

    Not long ago, one of the CIA’s eavesdropping-proof rooms (soundproof, electromagnetically-shielded, etc.) was used to interrogate one of Dennis’s close associates, and the interrogator was one of the leading global targets of conspiratorial talk, as they tried to find an angle on Dennis, just as Bearden has talked about:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden

    My data points regarding this situation tightly align. This is likely not far off from how they do it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#risk

    Dennis said that they probably have ten guys assigned to him, and probably only one or two on me. That is about what I figured. Again, it just comes with the territory.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    As may be obvious, I read a pretty wide spectrum of material. I have been reading plenty of mystical stuff lately, including life on the other side of the veil, particularly Marks’s The Afterlife Interviews:

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Afterlife-...+Interviews%3A

    and Chris Carter’s excellent trilogy:

    http://www.amazon.com/Chris-Carter/e...015&sr=1-2-ent

    One of the best afterlife books I ever read was Testimony of Light:

    http://www.amazon.com/Testimony-Ligh...imony+of+Light

    As somebody living in physical reality, the beef that I have with the entire setup is that the love of God is nowhere evident here, but it is apparently in the air we breathe. We lose all memory of the other side as the price of admission, put here like mushrooms in an incredibly harsh place, to one day die. Who thought up a hell like that? Again, if this is some kind of halfway house for fallen souls or a test for us aspiring creators, then it makes sense:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#tale

    But whatever the case may be for who set this up and why (any my conscious mind definitely did not, nor did yours, so no blaming our conscious minds for this setup, which is all that any of us knows), I think that the only way out of our predicament is through love, to find inside ourselves what is not evident in the world we see. That is no easy task, not by any means. So, I need to stop whining and start loving. In the world I live in, it is one unending nightmare that comes about by the lack of love and sentience that my fellow humans display, and if the mystical stuff is to be believed, we are all one, and reflect back to each other who we really are. Again, why play such a game at all? Was it a boring day in Creation when this game was invented? Maybe one “day,” on the other side, I will be let in on the joke. But for now, it is onward to make this the best possible world that I can imagine. At least, that is my game.

    I rarely do it, and I thought about putting this part in the FE physics or an FE inventor’s thread, but I will do it here, briefly, as I am constantly queried about it, but invariably by people who are naïve about how the world really works. Adam Trombly began his journey of FE awakening by tapping the ZPF via rotating magnets. Twenty-five years ago, as we were being eviscerated in Ventura, Adam spoke about his path of discovery:

    http://projectearth.com/founder-essa...lorado-springs

    which resulted in his first FE prototype, the homopolar generator:

    http://projectearth.com/closed-path-homopolar-machine

    The effect is created by a very precisely-made device that spins magnets at high speed. If you have a million dollars or so and live in the West, you can build one. As with many devices like that, the USA’s government seized it under the national securities laws. The “skeptics” cannot seem to comprehend that if it was some kind of scam or moonshine, why would the government seize it and make it secret? The seizure of disruptive energy technology has happened thousands of times in the USA:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post514878

    That cannot even be rationally denied, but the “skeptics” and various other establishment defenders cannot seem to admit or even imagine it, yet it happens all the time. A person such as Mr. Skeptic just denies what his eyes tell him:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post694872

    and makes up new lies as his old lies are exposed::

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post410817

    One of Brian O’s pals in India reproduced Trombly’s machine, but in India, they could not get machine tolerances precise enough to get RPMs high enough to get the spectacular effects, but it still was good enough to demonstrate the effect:

    http://projectearth.com/conducting-magnetic-cylinder

    I had my hands on one of those devices not so very long ago. At about 2,000 RPM, with a properly constructed device, the ZPF effect becomes noticeable. The most common way to tap the ZPF that I am aware of is by rotating magnets. All the other ways, from Mills’s hydrino concept, cold fusion, and so on, are likely tapping the ZPF in the end. Some, such as Tesla’s original tower idea, take advantage of solar energy, often indirectly, but ZPE is the big one.

    What Sparky Sweet had, with conditioned magnets in a solid-state arrangement, is highly superior to moving part technology:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sparky

    Adam had something similar built, too, and demonstrated it in Manhattan before he went to speak at the United Nations:

    http://projectearth.com/about/adam-trombly

    “Skeptics” and others who decry, “Where are the demonstrations?”, or “Where is the technology that I can put my hands on?” are either highly naïve, willfully ignorant, or simply being dishonest, either as they defend their paradigm or draw their paychecks.

    As Adam later said, his life became a “bad spy novel” after such demonstrations, with him surviving around forty murder attempts since then:

    http://projectearth.com/the-truth-about-zero-point

    Of course, the reality of those technologies and situations is universally denied and derided by the “skeptics” and other establishment defenders. It is tempting to think that they are all mindless, but that is too easy. They are all, to one degree or another, being dishonest, but that is normal in our world:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    Probably most of the dishonesty is of the “unconscious” variety, where such defenders of rationality and science become the most irrational people on Earth as they mindlessly defend the paradigm that puts food in their bellies. Some are on the payrolls of the various interests. I think it is likely that Mr. Skeptic is on the payroll:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#skeptic

    but it is more psychologically interesting if he is not, as he consciously lies to attack people, performing criminal libel time and again, and becoming a media darling in the process. The human ego may explain Mr. Skeptic’s antics more than being handsomely paid to perform his “skeptical” duties.

    People with no experience in developing technologies, particularly for the marketplace, think that magic happens between having a working prototype and getting it to market. Brian O was constantly trying to educate the public that the difference between having a working prototype and putting something on the market was at least $100 million, and is more like $200 million today. No FE inventor has ever had that kind of money, and it is the height of naïveté to think that if somehow an FE inventor obtained that kind of money that it would be a downhill racer to FE. If anybody ever got their hands on that kind of money and was sincerely trying to make FE happen, then Godzilla would take the gloves off. None of the incredible heroism of people such as Dennis, Adam, and the few others like them has ever gotten them remotely close to the FE finish line. At best, they were like blind and deaf mice surrounded by cats who argued over who would get the tasty morsel that time. If any effort really got going, it would be no more subtle sabotage, dangling carrots and sticks, no raids, but Godzilla would start digging deeply into his bag of tricks, tricks that he has not had to use yet, kind of in the “break glass in case of emergency” category. I can imagine what some of those tricks might be, and I certainly do not want to be on the receiving end of them.

    So, when I see the Rossis and Keshes, with their patents, with their money-raising, big talk, and so on, I know that they have not even graduated from FE kindergarten yet, and I have no interest whatsoever in what they are up to, and actively try to avoid hearing more about it. But as you can see on this thread and the related ones, FE newbies continually stumble in with their inventor-of-the-hour enthusiasm. Again, I lost interest in the inventor/businessman’s path to FE about twenty years ago. It simply does not have a prayer in the current environment. I am doing something different, but I am continually besieged by people who try to either interest me in that game or get me to play it again. I received some such entreaties just last month. People need to shed such newbie delusions once and for all if they have any hopes of being in the choir or any other effort that might make a dent. This is a conundrum like no other that I ever heard of, and any effort with a prayer needs to get far past the newbie stuff, and it takes hard work to do that. There are no easy answers to this issue. The problem has nothing whatsoever to do with technology, money, and the like. The problem lies in the human heart, which directs the human head. Love is the only answer that I know of (which leads to enlightenment), and we will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I have put many caveats in my posts, and here is another cautionary tale, but it goes the other way. When the rocket began to take off in Ventura:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post608413

    one of our early hires was an assistant for Dennis named Cab, who helped run the sales team. Cab and I began to hit it off early on. Cab was a former sheriff’s deputy. Cab is the person who called Mr. Deputy when we heard that inquiries about our company were being forwarded to the Ventura County Sheriff’s Department.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#deputy

    On the day of the raid, footage was taken of Cab and I standing in front of our offices as the raid commenced, engaging in a lively conversation (I was in shock at the time). Cab later said that the raid and its aftermath removed any remaining desire that he had to work in law enforcement again. In Seattle, so many people betrayed the cause that it was easy to become paranoid. Even after Dennis's company was stolen:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient1

    the few remaining “loyalists” all dropped out, one after one, and I was the only one left two months after the raid, and several “loyalists” later tried to extort money out of us in Ventura:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#extortion

    In the wake of such events, people could be forgiven for being paranoid about the people around them, wondering who was in on the conspiracy. I have kept stating that when the sleepers show up, they try to look like Dennis Leahy, with a halo over their heads:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post678778

    What they have not looked like, that I have seen, are former members of the same organization that is attacking us. I had already seen many betrayals, and was about to watch Mr. Texas dupe many people with his act:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ell#post585787

    but I never really suspected Cab of being a plant from the sheriff’s department. And Cab never abandoned or attacked Dennis like so many others did. Cab was one of the good guys. But Mr. Professor was new to the game and naïve, and he always suspected that Cab was working for the sheriff’s department. I tried to dissuade such suspicions when I could, and in retrospect I should have been more forceful, but I have seen, over and over again, and often directed at me, that when somebody gets it in their mind that somebody is a bad guy, they almost never waver in their opinion, and I think that the human ego is usually behind such unwavering “certainty,” no matter what contrary evidence is adduced.

    When Dennis was in jail, I don’t recall that Cab was helpful, but he also never joined in on the attack that almost everybody else did. After Dennis got out, Cab came back into the picture somewhat and even helped out, and I was told that when he met my wife during one of the hearings when we had Mr. Deputy on the run with the misconduct hearings, Cab was happy for me. I always had fond memories of Cab. He smoked and drank, and at our office, he would sometimes retire to his van and take a nip, but I also understood that behavior, particularly in those days.

    Dennis never seriously suspected Cab of being a plant, either, as he knew what the plants looked like when they appeared. But Mr. Professor could never get over his unfounded suspicions. Dennis and I never told Cab about Mr. Professor’s delusions about him. How could we? It was one of the many kinds of depressing situations that arise when you sail in those waters. Cab standing up for us in Ventura, or at least not betraying us, surely ended whatever law enforcement career that he might have resumed in Ventura County. About the time that I was leaving Ventura in the summer of 1990, a position opened up in the security department of Ventura College. Cab lived nearby, and it would have been easy duty for him. He applied for the job and used Mr. Professor as a reference, thinking that he was “in.” Mr. Professor shot him down, even gleefully, and when he told Dennis about it, there was a smile on his face. When I heard that, I was very saddened. I actually called Mr. Professor on it several years later, and he did not shirk from what he did, and knew that it was not one of the high points of his life.

    Dennis tried to make it up to Cab whenever he could. When Dennis was flying high in 1996, he gave Cab a dealership. That situation was just one of the many like it, when you sail in those waters.

    This Avalon experience has had me dig into my memory banks pretty deeply at times, and some days what I dig up I wish could remain buried, but all-in-all, it has been a good experience. I recently found myself thinking of Cab, and about a year ago I began to seek him out, to see what he was up to and apologize for what Mr. Professor did. It was a bittersweet experience. I discovered that he died in the late 1990s, in his mid-40s, and I figured that his smoking and drinking caught up with him. His daughter became a famous opera singer, and I reached out to her, with no reply.

    When I spoke with Dennis recently, I heard the story. When Mr. Professor shot Cab down at the college, Cab ended up doing what so many of us professionals “stuck” in Ventura did: we got jobs in LA:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eda#post328220

    Cab got a private security job, in South-Central LA, which, as I know:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ard#post406934

    is a war zone. In the late 1990s, Cab came to a bloody end in the line of duty. When Dennis found out, he tried to help Cab’s family, but his wife basically gave Dennis the finger. That is the saddest story that I have heard in a while.

    Mr. Professor died a few years later, and I own a piece of his fate:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

    as does that damned voice in my head. Even though Mr. Professor probably achieved sainthood during his journey:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post406935

    he owns a piece of Cab’s fate, and I can only pray that they healed it on the other side.

    Again, let that be a cautionary tale. I became the target of attacks from friends, family, and colleagues, always out of some crazed paranoia, greed, or other delusionary state, and watching that saga between Mr. Professor, Cab and his family, and Dennis really broke my heart.

    But as I have kept stressing, I have no intention of leading the lambs anywhere close to those kinds of situations, where they are putting their livelihoods and lives on the line for the choir’s sake. I plan to be the only person who shoulders much risk, and I do not plan to make it onto Godzilla’s hit list. I know that almost nobody can pass the tests of playing on the high road, and the situation with Cab is a blot on Mr. Professor’s résumé, and if even Mr. Professor can stumble (and to be fair, Mr. Professor was in situations that he never suspected that he would encounter, so his naïveté and paranoia can be excused somewhat, where he saw a threat where none existed), almost nobody can nimbly dance across the minefield toward FE. You can find many FE aspirants, but I have yet to see any of them walk ten feet on the path that Dennis has walked miles on. I know how rough that road is, and do not plan to ask anybody to walk it, and when enthusiastic newbies tell me what they are going to do to make FE happen, I shake my head.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    FYI, science takes on singing in the choir and it's potential benefit for singers' hearts. A positive, serious feedback

    Short article from NewScientists: Singing in a choir is good for the heart
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...the-heart.html

    Enjoy

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    And another article on quantum vacuum properties from WiReD magazine:
    ‘Holographic Duality’ Hints at Hidden Subatomic World
    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...cle-world/all/

    Have once read that ultimate goal of Earth's Science (masterfully orchestrated with "Aha!" moments from High Above) is to scientifically prove the existence of Human Soul and the multidimensional nature of the Universe... It ultimately started for real with explosion of internet and smashing atoms in particle accelerators (The Manhattan Project and Vannevar Bush and his memex)...

    Science might seem not so much enlightened to come with The Proof now, judging from the state of affairs, but let us remember that "every cloud has a silver lining"
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    Hi Robert:

    In the Black Science world, phenomena that White Science considers “impossible” is the daily reality, and my understanding is that instead of consciousness being chalked up to a phantom of chemistry as materialist science does, the nature of consciousness and the “soul” is part and parcel of the Black Science world. However, the Black Science world abuses the process, often to an evil degree, by attacking minds and other niceties.

    Indeed, high-temperature superconductors more than hint that the current body of theory is incomplete, to put it mildly.

    As I have kept stating, the physics that the Black Science world is familiar with renders today’s physics texts something that looks like cave drawings. The public is oblivious to such a world, other than some Hollywood movies that hint at it.

    If FE can make if past humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression, then the Black Science world may become the White Science world, and today’s science will leap forward by a century or three, as all the secret stuff comes out. But in a world of scarcity and spiritual degeneration, keeping the lid on it keeps the dark pathers at the top of the food chain.

    There are many alternative physics models out there, and as Adam T. and others have stated plenty, the Standard Model is woefully deficient. When the physics behind FE and other “impossible” stuff comes out, we will likely have the unified field theory. But the unified field theory is bad for Godzilla’s business, so it stays under wraps for now.

    Yes, being in a choir can’t hurt.

    To all:

    I am writing the essay these days, and doing some thankless legacy work regarding Brian O, but it needs to be done, for his memory if nothing else.

    Plunking along,

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    Well Wade.... Thank you for handling Brian's O legacy .

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    No amount of thanks would be sufficient... but if you manage to see us turn the corner, I think you may see that as thanks enough!

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    Speaking of legacies...
    I'm wondering how Meredith O has adjusted to widowhood. Wishing her well...from afar.

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    Hi:

    Just a little on physics here…

    The von Neumann interpretation of quantum physics is that consciousness itself is required to collapse the wave function into a measureable “particle”:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_vo...ntum_mechanics

    He was certainly no mystic, but when one of the greatest scientific minds of the 20th century postulated that consciousness was a required ingredient for manifesting the world that we see, Seth was smiling.

    As I have covered a bit, Einstein’s special theory of relativity did away with a need for the ether, but his general theory brought back the need for it (something is bent by gravity, so space can’t be empty).

    In Einstein’s “Sidelights on Relativity,” a speech delivered on May 5th, 1920, at the University of Leyden, he finished with: “Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical properties; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether.”

    One of Einstein’s protégés, David Bohm, postulated that a cubic centimeter of the vacuum contained more energy than is contained in all the mass of the known universe:

    http://www.groupsrv.com/science/ptopic11973.html

    and that understanding has long been accepted at the fringes:

    http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...tastrophe.html

    although Einstein and his protégé were anything but the fringe.

    I won’t be so foolish as to think that I am going to help flesh out the unified field theory, but my point is more that scientists who decry ZPE as “impossible” are the professional descendants of scientists who declared man-powered flight “impossible,” even as the Wright brothers were flying through the air:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#wright

    Establishment science has always been plagued by that kind of dogmatism, and today’s “skeptics” are the epitome of that mentality.

    The problem with ZPE and science is that unlike the Wright brothers, who flew in a field in full view of anybody who wanted to watch, the lid is very tight on ZPE, with the equivalent of spooks capturing and sequestering any planes that get in the air for an instant, so the “skeptics” can keep crowing that ZPE is “impossible.”

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi Ulli:

    Brian is keenly missed by many, and by Meredith in particular. She seems to be doing OK, from what I have heard. Their place is still open for visitors.

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    Hi:

    In my legacy work on Brian O, writing my energy essay and other recent work, the issue of arguments, evidence, and experience has been coming up repeatedly.

    I often find myself kind of trapped between denialists, naïve positivists, conspiracists, governmental and private interests that intentionally obscure the truth, a totally unaware public, and other groups grinding their particular axes. Occasionally, I come upon an actual investigator who seems interested in the truth, but they are few and far between. In the midst of all that, the question of who is interested in the truth becomes important, and what we do with the truth when we find it is the overriding issue.

    The issue of evidence and its reliability, how to interpret it, what conclusions can be drawn from it, and so on, is a big one, and much of my work hinges on it. While everybody has their own approach to the subject as they live their lives, I will likely write an essay on the subject, and not just an academic essay on epistemology, but my approach and what I will be expecting of those I ask to be in the choir. This might take a few posts.

    I’ll start with a recent issue, which is Brian O’s encounter with the military, his health event, and his shortened life. Several astronauts have been very outspoken on the UFO issue, Mitchell and Cooper in particular:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_M...#Views_on_UFOs

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_...#UFO_sightings

    Brian O became involved in the UFO issue long ago, and Brian believed that it nearly cost him his life, and those who knew him know that the incident also shortened his life:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

    Brian refused to say much publicly about the incident, but there is plenty of evidence for what happened. When Brian worked at SAIC:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#saic

    he refused to work on Star Wars, and continued his space colony and asteroid mining work from his Princeton days:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill

    Brian’s peaceful application of space technology was at variance with the Star Wars culture at SAIC, but he was rubbing shoulders with all manner of military rank, and briefing McNamara and future neocons was part of the milieu. Brian did a lot of Capitol Hill work:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#after

    and I am not sure exactly where the military connection come from with Brian and his UFO incident, but it came from somewhere in those establishment days, probably post-NASA.

    In this video, you can see Brian say that he had run-ins with the covert ops people, and he would not talk publicly about them for fears of retribution:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=dLp_0V127eU

    The closest that Brian came to publicly admitting his run-in with the military was in the prologue to his last book:

    http://www.brianoleary.info/Synopsis.html

    titled: “Prologue. Confessions of a Naïve Scientific Heretic: A Story about the Carrot and the Stick”.

    That colleague may sound suspiciously like Brian, but I think that it was one of his pals who also received an “offer” that he could not refuse. That is not unusual in this milieu. When Eugene Mallove was murdered:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

    Brian was spooked, and I did not blame him for moving to South America.

    When the FDA kidnapped the person who cured Brian of cancer:

    http://drbrianoleary.wordpress.com/2...monial-letter/

    it was just one more incident like it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#keller

    The medical racketeers can play hard ball when they need to, and one of their recent threats came a little too close to me for comfort. I am doing what I can to avoid such fates, and keep those in the choir from getting into trouble.

    The events that tightly framed Brian’s health incident are in the public record, and there is nothing controversial about those events, as far as their reality. What is not in the public domain is that the military approached Brian during one event, and the health incident happened immediately afterward. Several details of the incident are suspicious on their face, and point to it being an induced event, and the military branch that made the “offer” had the means to inflict that health event on Brian. Brian had no doubt that the incident was the military’s response to his “I am not interested” reply to their overture.

    Can that be proven in a court of law? Not at all, even if a fair court could be convened, which is likely impossible. If you do a little Internet surfing, you can see various reactions to Brian’s event. One lawyer wannabee played naïve positivist, taking the position that since Brian’s allegations could not be proven in a court of law and Brian is now dead, that Brian's allegations do not deserve to be taken seriously. Brian was even accused of making up the event to garner attention to himself. If it cannot be proven in a court of law, does that mean it did not happen? I recall Dennis’s attorney, who almost lost his license because he took Dennis’s case:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bigtime

    say during the prosecutorial misconduct hearings, “If you are looking for the truth, the courtroom is not the place to find it.” When I talked with Dennis recently, he discussed how Mr. Big Time Attorney was chastened by his experiences with Dennis, in a life-changing way. He thought that he had made the Big Time, beating the IRS in the U.S. Supreme Court, but it was made clear to him that he was nobody in the game that he was playing with Dennis. The IRS was the minor leagues compared to who was behind Dennis’s persecution.

    That health event, and others like it, was partly behind Brian’s suspicion about the moon landings:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#apollo

    Brian always admitted that the possibility that NASA faked the moon landings was remote, but he would not have put it past them if they thought it was necessary. But none of the people in the moon landings camp, pro or con, that I have contacted so far, are willing to put Brian’s final word:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#statement

    on the moon landings someplace where Wikipedia’s “editors” won’t erase the reference. I was never able to get Brian over the hump on the moon landings, but his “final word” was truly his final word, although the various camps do not want to acknowledge it, because he shows that he was not in any camp.

    The reticence of people such as Buzz Aldrin, when Brian asked him about the moon landings, may have been because of what Buzz saw that he could not talk about, such as an ET encounter. Greer is adamant that the Apollo 11 astronauts had an ET encounter on the moon:

    http://drgreersblog.disclosureproject.org/?p=202

    Not long ago, I heard of a spectacular ET encounter on a relatively recent NASA mission from inside sources. As I have stated repeatedly, the ET and FE cover-ups are joined at the hip. My understanding is that the ET cover-up is not about a feared War of the Worlds reaction, but that FE and antigravity would come with it, and it then would be game over for Godzilla, and he knows it.

    Godzilla is playing chicken with Earth and humanity, and cooler heads may prevail:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

    although I am certainly not waiting for them to do something. Our destiny is in our hands, in more ways than one.

    I’ll cover more situations on the issue of evidence soon, including its reliability and utility.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    During my sabbatical, I have talked with many people, and most of them know my background, some quite well. Several times now, I have been subjected to Level 6 and Level 7 delusions:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

    by people who I thought knew better. Every time, the delusions have been spouted by people who either have no experience whatsoever in technology development, grade-school teachers and the like, or people who worked in White Science labs. The FE situation is nothing at all like White Science. There is no place to run and hide, and we can’t sneak past them. Those are all adolescent fantasies.

    As I have stated plenty, the only prayer for the inventor route is for the inventor with the goods to give it to a worthy group. I have never met or heard of the inventor with the goods willing to give it away, and I have never heard of that worthy group, and my efforts can be seen as an early attempt to begin to form that group. But newbies have many delusions about today’s situation.

    One delusion is that The People are just waiting to get behind something that puts us over the top, brings FE into the public’s hands, and so on. The so-called People are waiting for nothing of the kind. They all live lives of quiet desperation in their misery, and live to temporarily sate their addictions, above all else. They are not looking to help anything along like FE, not from a desire to help. If they see a chance to get rich and famous, they might “help,” but it is the kind of help that is like a two-edged sword that will betray the effort when the opportunity presents itself. I have seen that happen literally hundreds of times. The People comprise the Great Herd that is easily manipulated in a world of scarcity, to stampede wherever the social managers want them to go. Anybody who thinks that The People are going to be allies in an FE effort simply has no experience in doing anything like this, or are like Dennis, with a faith that is hard to believe, as he gets slammed time after time. The People are only going to wake up when an FE device that can power their home is delivered to them, or they can go see one in action, and by “in action,” I mean one that is powering something all on its own, for days and weeks at a time. Anything less is not going to do the trick.

    Another major delusion is that operating data is going to convince the masses, or some proof of concept demonstration. FE prototypes have been demonstrated many times, from Gray to Moray to Trombly. Adam did it in downtown Manhattan. More often, people such as Sparky Sweet demonstrate it in “proprietary” settings where they are trying to protect their inventor’s rights:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sparky

    or people like Mark stumble into making an FE prototype:

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread392968/pg7

    Without exception, they are taken care of, and the gawking masses have never helped.

    Newbies labor under many potentially-fatal delusions, and the only saving grace to this situation is that they are virtually all Walter Mitty fantasists who will never do anything:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty

    so they won’t ever really get into trouble, the life-threatening kind, but it sure tries my patience to hear for the five-thousandth time all of those “bright ideas” that newbies send my way, to “help.” That is all the human ego talking, thinking that it can solve the biggest problem on Earth on a lunch hour. There is nothing easy about any of this, and being in the choir will not be easy. Heck, at this time, I only have a relative handful of people who I will ask to be in it, and they are all people who have been doing their homework, demonstrated keen insight, and who have refrained from trying to foist all of their bright ideas on me, or how we can somehow avoid all the hard work that we have ahead of us, to get The Muppet Movie ending after a few days of work.

    I have helped the best of the best try to crack this nut, and have watched many others try. Nobody has ever come remotely close to the finish line. Again, FE will be the fifth epochal event in human history:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post674575

    and Godzilla and the many other predators in the jungle have done their best to prevent it from happening, as they would no longer be able to exploit the human herd. And the herd is its own worst enemy, as it only sees its immediate self-interest, and is stampeded in any direction that the predators want them to go. I am not interested in Galt’s Gulch fantasies, either:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Galt

    which is another adolescent notion. I am shooting for a very adult conversation, and we will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
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    The reason I put this here is not to make light of things, but to show the power of Wade's focus...
    how it has manifested a parallel in the real world, albeit only a movie poster at this time.
    And the poster does show a larger Godzilla than the earlier ones. Nevertheless,
    we'll probably discover that there is a vulnerability.
    If enough movie goers can then make the connection between the meme in their minds becoming the reality of their outer world then the next step is to take the Free Energy meme and create a utopian movie, about a world where the battles are in the past and largely forgotten.

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    Hi Ulli:

    That gave me my laugh of the morning. Thanks.

    This has been a very busy sabbatical, with quite a few surprises thrown my way. I am plunking along on the essay, and have been re-visioning parts of it. One thing that has been happening repeatedly on this sabbatical, as I have mentioned earlier, is encountering people who just don’t understand, and some of whom I thought did. When I see those responses to my work, I have it reinforced to me that I have my work cut out for me.

    Somebody like Ilie may get tired of reading it, but it is also training for him. Right now, the least valuable members of the FE effort are scientists, inventors, and businesspeople. They are a dime a dozen, going zero-for-50,000 in their attempts to make FE happen. With a batting average like that, it is time for a different approach, but I am besieged with would-be FE inventors and the like, and people who want to “do something.” There is literally no support from the public, and the public is usually FE’s greatest enemy if it gets involved, because its involvement is due to self-interest. The public is easily manipulated, and if people don’t wreck the efforts on their own initiative, due to their greed and other deficiencies, they are easily stampeded over the cliff by the carrots and sticks that Godzilla and other predators use:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#risk

    The scientist/inventor/business route to FE is a dead-end for several reasons, but almost nobody can think past it, thinking that Godzilla does not exist, can be snuck past, defeated in battle, etc., as in those early-stage mentalities that I call Levels 6, 7, 9, 10 and 11:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

    among others. In ways, it is like telling those 18-year-old men what a battlefield is like:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

    They not only don’t want to hear about reality, but they actively deny it, as they have to go find out the hard way, if they survive the experience.

    All the dogged reactions that I get on the FE issue, from the “laws of physics” objections, to the “we can sneak past them” bright ideas, to the “maybe Godzilla is sleeping today” delusions, and so on, remind me of the joke of looking for a lost item where the light is good, even though you know that you did not lose it there:

    http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhereTheLightIsBetter

    Not only are scientists, inventors, and businesspeople the least important members of the FE effort today because of the nature of the problem, I have virtually never encountered one of them with the right stuff. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, which was the primary lesson of my journey that almost nobody wants to admit (and that denial dooms the efforts of the aspirants, as they are not grounded in reality, but naïve fantasy):

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    and it applies richly to the FE field. Dennis should be the patron saint of the FE movement, but instead, he is vilified and lied about, nearly universally, so the lessons of his preposterous journey are not even acknowledged to be learned from. Even Dennis himself took many years longer than I did to finally understand key aspects of the conundrum. I realized back in the 1990s that the inventor/scientist/business route to FE was a dead-end, especially in the USA. Dennis has only recently begun to admit it. That universal lack of personal integrity dooms FE efforts. When I saw Dennis recently, he admitted what I have long stated: his allies have hurt him far more than his enemies have. The enemy is truly us, not Godzilla. Godzilla is only an opportunist, taking advantage of our semi-sentient and low-integrity state, reinforcing it when he can, and we oblige him. He won’t be defeated in battle or snuck past, and the last I knew, he did not die in his sleep. There is dissention in his ranks:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

    and some members have shown off their wares:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    and if I was a betting man, I would wager that the near-term fate of the human species will be determined by the struggle at that level, but I have not been invited to that party and I am not waiting for them to save us from ourselves. It is time for love, sentience, and abundance to rule, not fear and mindlessness allegiance to scarcity-based ideologies:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    The sooner that potential choir members can digest and get past those early-level understandings, the better off they will be, and they will then be in a position to learn and help, instead of getting mired in conventional thinking and adolescent dreams.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    I think you are giving too much credit to what you have labeled "Godzilla", you infer that the control structure has far more ability than reality is showing us (if you look around at what is happening in 2013).

    There is room for both science based forward movement, and zeitgeist reform.


    I was not aware that this thread was just for you to write in and others to read. (I guess it makes more sense now that I view your 1,500 posts to 65 "thanks" ratio.)
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    TargetT,

    Speaking about Free Energy is hardly worth Godzilla's effort. Dennis Lee did actually brought it to the market big time. He was not talking about it, he was doing it in fast, powerful, "working-device" ways.

    Also what Wade is trying to say (and just said in the post above you), is NOT that his way is the only way, but it is the ONLY way that he cares about at this time and he would really not want to deal with "the other ways" the he does not care about. For some reason that is not clear...

    Please continue tracking the ECat technology on a different thread. This thread really is not about the tech . I am trying to be as gentle as I can in pointing out that your post is rather "off-topic" here.

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    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    TargetT,

    Speaking about Free Energy is hardly worth Godzilla's effort. Dennis Lee did actually brought it to the market big time. He was not talking about it, he was doing it in fast, powerful, "working-device" ways.

    Also what Wade is trying to say (and just said in the post above you), is NOT that his way is the only way, but it is the ONLY way that he cares about at this time and he would really not want to deal with "the other ways" the he does not care about. For some reason that is not clear...

    Please continue tracking the ECat technology on a different thread. This thread really is not about the tech . I am trying to be as gentle as I can in pointing out that your post is rather "off-topic" here.

    Also it might be worth pointing out that from the beginning when Bill Ryan invited Wade
    to come here and write about his work, this thread was never designed to be a discussion thread like others.
    Rather it was meant to be a haven for Wade; a place where he could explore his personal ideas on the FE agenda
    unhindered by the challenges that presented themselves on other forums.

    The posts where this was laid out are somewhere lost now in the beginnings of the thread,
    and Target probably never saw them, having come in much later.

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    Hi:

    Thanks all for trying to keep this thread on track (whatever “on track” means ).

    The closest that anybody has ever come to putting FE on the market is what Dennis did with his “Systems for Savings” program:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs

    although the product in that instance was not really FE technology. Nobody has ever put true FE technology on the market, but Dennis was putting disruptive energy technology on the market in a radical way that I have not seen attempted before or since. What happened in Seattle is what happens when the energy industry’s immune system begins to kick in:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    And after Seattle, we definitely attracted Godzilla’s active interest, and he was assuredly watching us in Seattle and at least one of his assets was used on us. If the entire story was ever told, almost nobody would believe any of it. Dennis, like Adam, should have died many times by now, but he is still trying, and that is mind-boggling to me. Dennis is truly one-of-a-kind, who has played the game at a level that nobody else has ever played at that I know of:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    If anybody deserves to bring FE to the world, it is Dennis and the very few others like him. But, I saw, up close and personally, what that journey was like. I decided that it was too hard for me, and I know that there are likely not a hundred on the planet like me, either. When you realize how lonely the path is:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

    you then have to rethink such a “hero’s” journey, and I have been rethinking it since 1988, and I am trying something different. I am not looking for ten like Dennis, or a hundred like Brian and me, but five thousand or so like Ilie, who have no desire to be heroes (smart! ), but want to contribute their awareness to the issue, which was the big missing ingredient that I repeatedly saw. Does that strategy have a chance to make a dent? Maybe not, but as people I respect have responded when I have floated my idea, it could not hurt. And, perhaps most importantly to me, that path will not ask anybody to risk their lives.

    We will see how that quixotic approach works.

    Best,

    Wade
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