So Why Have Extraterrestrials Been Abducting Human Beings?

[ResistETIntervention]

There are mainly three reasons that extraterrestrials abduct human beings. The three cases are not necessarily disjoint:

1. To manipulate their perceptions and reeducate their minds, i.e., to brainwash or mind-control them, in order to generate human beings that welcome and support their extraterrestrial abductors. These abductees are returned mind-controlled and will go on to influence other human beings to welcome, support, and even apologize for the extraterrestrial beings. Do you see this occurring all over the world and even in this forum?
   
   

   The inducement will be focused upon two distinct groups of individuals. Actually, these are not groups of individuals, but really classifications, of individuals. The first are those who are considered psychic and sensitive. The inducement here is to validate their sensitivity and to induce them into the collective mind of the Intervention itself. Here these individuals will be encouraged to support the Intervention, and their own beliefs regarding the frailties and the sinfulness of humanity will be encouraged. And their hope that some greater power from beyond the world will come to rescue humanity from its own demise will be greatly encouraged. Here it will be taught to them that they are part of a greater association of life that is demonstrated by the Intervention itself. Here their religious views and aspirations will be encouraged but directed towards the Collectives.
   
   These individuals will be told to trust in the extraterrestrial presence that is in the world, that it is here to uplift humanity, to transform humanity, and to rescue humanity from its own errors. They will be encouraged to become its representatives, to become its speakers, to inspire others to give their faith and their trust to the extraterrestrial presence and to become part of this movement in consciousness, this great evolutionary change that is occurring in their midst. Yet these individuals, without knowing the real nature or intentions of the Intervention, will unwittingly become its speakers and its representatives. Having become part of the visitors’ Pacification Program, these people will now pacify others and bring them to the Intervention.
   
   So while the visitors seek liaison with individuals in positions of power in government and religion, they also seek to establish emissaries throughout the human population. For those sensitive individuals who cannot become receptive to and cooperative with the Intervention, their skills and abilities will be thwarted and offset. If such individuals begin to gain an insight into the real nature of the Intervention, they can become the target of real mental disruption.
   
   From “The Allies of Humanity – Book 2”

2. To use them as their resources. Biological resources are rare and in demand in the Greater Community of Worlds. Human beings are biological resources the ET Intervention seeks. Some abductees have observed human blood and organs bottled while they were onboard extraterrestrial spaceships. There are many accounts including those on mutilation, of course, which indicate that human beings are being used as resources for extraterrestrials.
   

   What you may not understand is that each year thousands of people are taken and not returned to the world. These people are not simply conditioned. They are kept. Some of them perish in captivity. Some of them do not survive the process of their capturing. Some become sick and die. Those that cannot survive and are still seen as useful to the Intervention are used as a biological resource. That means that their blood, their body parts, everything is used according to its value in the Greater Community. In the Greater Community, biological resources such as blood, plasma, DNA, bone marrow, skin and body organs can be used for their chemical substances. From these, medicines are made. From these, new life forms are bred. These substances are valuable commodities in certain parts of the Greater Community.
   
   If those who are captured and not returned survive, they will be used for other purposes. Should the Intervention gain complete control of your world, many people who are considered to be undesirable, or who do not fit into the social patterns established through the Intervention, will be used as biological resources in this way.
   
   Perhaps this is shocking, but you can understand this, for this is how you treat your animals as biological resources—to be used for food, for clothing, for medicines, for fuel. In the Greater Community, biological resources are very valuable because they can be used and altered for a variety of purposes as we have mentioned— for medicinal purposes, for life support purposes and for the breeding and generation of new species.
   
   From “The Allies of Humanity – Book 2”

3. To use them in their Human-Alien Hybridization Program which the ET Intervention has been implementing for quite some time now. The goal of the genetic modification program is to manufacture human-alien hybrids that will look like human beings but whose minds are in alignment with their extraterrestrial superiors. Thus, the hybrids will be able to adapt to living on Earth, but will be absolutely allegiant to the ET Intervention. People will not be able to distinguish them from other human beings, and yet hybrids will be missing certain qualities that human beings possess and value. Hybrids will not be the ones to rule the world, but will be strategically positioned to advise human rulers. They may not even be public figures, but work completely behind the scene.
   

   The interbreeding program is being undertaken by a different set of beings and by different alliances. Through interbreeding, they are seeking to establish a human being who will be part of their association yet who can survive within your world and who can have a natural affinity with the world. Your visitors cannot live on the surface of your world. They must either seek shelter underground, which they are doing, or they must live aboard their own craft, which they often keep hidden in large bodies of water. They want to interbreed with humanity to protect their interests here, which are primarily the resources of your world. They want to have human allegiance assured, and so for several generations they have been involved in an interbreeding program, which within the last twenty years has become quite extensive.
   
   Their purpose is twofold. First, as we have mentioned, the visitors want to create a human-like being who can live within your world but who will be bonded to them and who will have a greater set of sensitivities and abilities. The second purpose of this program is to influence all those that they encounter and to encourage people to assist them in their undertaking. The visitors want and need human assistance. This furthers their program in all respects. They consider you valuable. However, they do not consider you to be their peers or their equals. Useful, that is how you are perceived. So, in all whom they will encounter, in all whom they will take, the visitors will seek to engender this sense of their superiority, their value and the worth and the significance of their endeavors in the world. The visitors will tell all whom they contact that they are here for the good, and they will assure those that they have captured that they need not fear. And with those who seem particularly receptive, they will attempt to establish alliances—a shared sense of purpose, even a shared sense of identity and family, of heritage and destiny.
   
   From “The Allies of Humanity – Book 1”

[onawah]

Simon Parkes is a good resource for information of this kind that is about as directly accessed as we can expect to get.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n6uPwibWfuI

[Bill Ryan]

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Here are a few thoughts intended only to move things on a little in terms of possible gains in recognition or understanding.

It seems that there can be various reasons for one finding oneself caught up in something like this:

• It's possible that one has given one's consent (at a higher self level or at a previous lives level) -- but does not recall it.

• One might be being supported, even though it may not in any way feel like it. (Like a cat or a dog being taken to the vet for reasons it cannot possibly understand. The experience is traumatic, but is actually benevolent.)

• One's mind or body might be regarded as a resource that's valuable to or wanted by others in some way. E.g. exceptional psychic abilities, family bloodline, or special DNA in some other sense. In extreme cases, that resource can be used as a 'hard' asset by humans who are the abductors or abusers -- like as a mind-controlled assassin, an intel courier, or (in some extreme cases) a sex slave. Those used in any of these ways might sometimes be 100% unaware of what is or has been going on. It's noteworthy that those involved in these kinds of issues seem to be regarded by their abusers and/or abductors as 'property'.

• Concerning ET abductions of women, there is plenty of evidence that some have been used for the breeding of hybrids.

• One might simply be being tracked, just as animals in the wild are captured, 'abducted', tagged, and then released without harm. The purpose here might simply be genuine (but dispassionate) research about the human race.

• Some abductions are benevolent inasmuch as the abductee is 'shown' possible visions of the future by ETs, but then is made to forget it. The intention seems often to be to 'wake up' the abducted person and motivate them to take proactive action, maybe without even knowing why. The abductees in these cases are often 'drawn' emotionally to others who have had the same experience (maybe even in the same craft, at the same time).

• One might be a completely random experimental subject, with the intention being simply to test, improve, and develop the high technology being deployed (by humans in black ops). See Dr John Hall's research for more on this. The randomness of the choice of target makes it particularly hard to detect join-the-dots patterns.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by onawah (here)
Simon Parkes is a good resource for information of this kind that is about as directly accessed as we can expect to get.

Great interview! Skip to 22:43 for the beginning of the interview with Simon.

At 48:28 into the interview, Simon mentions that he is on our Avalon forum, thanks to Bill Ryan.

[Helvetic]

Greys collecting prime time DNA. From now on human DNA decreases drastically, our bodys breaking down, our evolution is stopping.

[Peace&Love]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Here are a few thoughts intended only to move things on a little in terms of possible gains in recognition or understanding.

It seems that there can be various reasons for one finding oneself caught up in something like this:

• It's possible that one has given one's consent (at a higher self level or at a previous lives level) -- but does not recall it.

• One might be being supported, even though it may not in any way feel like it. (Like a cat or a dog being taken to the vet for reasons it cannot possibly understand. The experience is traumatic, but is actually benevolent.)

• One's mind or body might be regarded as a resource that's valuable to or wanted by others in some way. E.g. exceptional psychic abilities, family bloodline, or special DNA in some other sense. In extreme cases, that resource can be used as a 'hard' asset by humans who are the abductors or abusers -- like as a mind-controlled assassin, an intel courier, or (in some extreme cases) a sex slave. Those used in any of these ways might sometimes be 100% unaware of what is or has been going on. It's noteworthy that those involved in these kinds of issues seem to be regarded by their abusers and/or abductors as 'property'.

• Concerning ET abductions of women, there is plenty of evidence that some have been used for the breeding of hybrids.

• One might simply be being tracked, just as animals in the wild are captured, 'abducted', tagged, and then released without harm. The purpose here might simply be genuine (but dispassionate) research about the human race.

• Some abductions are benevolent inasmuch as the abductee is 'shown' possible visions of the future by ETs, but then is made to forget it. The intention seems often to be to 'wake up' the abducted person and motivate them to take proactive action, maybe without even knowing why. The abductees in these cases are often 'drawn' emotionally to others who have had the same experience (maybe even in the same craft, at the same time).

• One might be a completely random experimental subject, with the intention being simply to test, improve, and develop the high technology being deployed (by humans in black ops). See Dr John Hall's research for more on this. The randomness of the choice of target makes it particularly hard to detect join-the-dots patterns.

Thank you Bill for the points given! I have seen the videos containing your personal evidence, and indeed there was no signs of any harmful intentions, but rather a message for you that with all the hardship of separation from the unique relationship to be strong again and to take what you experienced as a positive learning tool for eventually creating the ground for us being here and now.
As i still hold a very narrow spectrum of this subject, i wish not to comment in a decisive manner, but rather suggest some points for thought.

Disclosure of aliens- I don't think we are ready for disclosure as defined by current activists, as we can see how polarized is the subject of 'alien presence'.
Reasons:

a) Knowing those species that have been secretly interacting with our governments and / or taking people against their conscious will, would not create a controllable environment for humanity, even if we are to be left alone and no more alien presence would follow. The fact that we will be confronted with the truth that we are not on top of the life pyramid (or, chain of life on earth) might cause tremendous turbulence, people not trusting authority, religion being doubted, a complete chaos.

b) Disclosing the facts we know about the above mentioned aliens will only do injustice to the overall terminology associated with the word 'alien' people will not be able to discern and rather use their instinctual evolutionary traits as 'they' and 'us', creating new type of galactic racism.

c) Lack of sufficient evidence regarding the existence and work of the not 'Self Serving' species would be detrimental for any type of disclosure.

So these are the reasons i think this matter should be for now still away from the public, and disclosed only until a more balanced picture could be given.

Thank you.

[ghostrider]

it is said , most of the abductions are military black ops, the others are nearby advanced civilizations doing their research, just as we do with lions and tigers, ehummmm we must put it to sleep , it's dangerous and might kill us , but it's beautiful and interesting so we must investigate ...load the tranquilizer dart, we'll tag it and check on it from time to time ...

[Aviator]

I like the book "Sands of Time" from Sean David Morton. Using a very special perspective, it puts all in one place, the whole subject of 40 years of shadow government including alien abductions and the motivation behind it.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Karla Turner and a small part of the Ted Rice story

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4xxLZOhoqoo

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pA9ef7iNW-0

[Sebastion]

Ted Rice's story closely parallels what Lou Baldin has said in his accounts with the ET's. His books are fascinating reads and methinks there is much truth in what he has to say.

http://www.amazon.com/A-Day-Extrater.../dp/1435719611

http://www.amazon.com/In-League-UFO-...ref=pd_sim_b_1

[Youniverse]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Here are a few thoughts intended only to move things on a little in terms of possible gains in recognition or understanding.

It seems that there can be various reasons for one finding oneself caught up in something like this:

• It's possible that one has given one's consent (at a higher self level or at a previous lives level) -- but does not recall it.

• One might be being supported, even though it may not in any way feel like it. (Like a cat or a dog being taken to the vet for reasons it cannot possibly understand. The experience is traumatic, but is actually benevolent.)

• One's mind or body might be regarded as a resource that's valuable to or wanted by others in some way. E.g. exceptional psychic abilities, family bloodline, or special DNA in some other sense. In extreme cases, that resource can be used as a 'hard' asset by humans who are the abductors or abusers -- like as a mind-controlled assassin, an intel courier, or (in some extreme cases) a sex slave. Those used in any of these ways might sometimes be 100% unaware of what is or has been going on. It's noteworthy that those involved in these kinds of issues seem to be regarded by their abusers and/or abductors as 'property'.

• Concerning ET abductions of women, there is plenty of evidence that some have been used for the breeding of hybrids.

• One might simply be being tracked, just as animals in the wild are captured, 'abducted', tagged, and then released without harm. The purpose here might simply be genuine (but dispassionate) research about the human race.

• Some abductions are benevolent inasmuch as the abductee is 'shown' possible visions of the future by ETs, but then is made to forget it. The intention seems often to be to 'wake up' the abducted person and motivate them to take proactive action, maybe without even knowing why. The abductees in these cases are often 'drawn' emotionally to others who have had the same experience (maybe even in the same craft, at the same time).

• One might be a completely random experimental subject, with the intention being simply to test, improve, and develop the high technology being deployed (by humans in black ops). See Dr John Hall's research for more on this. The randomness of the choice of target makes it particularly hard to detect join-the-dots patterns.

Yes I think that's a great list of possibilities you put together there Bill. Humans have no quams about herding up cattle and vaccinating them, tagging them, even castrating them, all through a series of very distressing and at times quite painful series of procedures. Perhaps when human beings have collectively evolved to a state where we no longer find it acceptable to do this to 'lower' life forms, certain ET species will stop doing it to us. It also shows how you can be a so-called 'highly advanced' race and still be in the spiritual dark ages.

[blufire]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Here are a few thoughts intended only to move things on a little in terms of possible gains in recognition or understanding.

It seems that there can be various reasons for one finding oneself caught up in something like this:

• It's possible that one has given one's consent (at a higher self level or at a previous lives level) -- but does not recall it.

• One might be being supported, even though it may not in any way feel like it. (Like a cat or a dog being taken to the vet for reasons it cannot possibly understand. The experience is traumatic, but is actually benevolent.)

• One's mind or body might be regarded as a resource that's valuable to or wanted by others in some way. E.g. exceptional psychic abilities, family bloodline, or special DNA in some other sense. In extreme cases, that resource can be used as a 'hard' asset by humans who are the abductors or abusers -- like as a mind-controlled assassin, an intel courier, or (in some extreme cases) a sex slave. Those used in any of these ways might sometimes be 100% unaware of what is or has been going on. It's noteworthy that those involved in these kinds of issues seem to be regarded by their abusers and/or abductors as 'property'.

• Concerning ET abductions of women, there is plenty of evidence that some have been used for the breeding of hybrids.

• One might simply be being tracked, just as animals in the wild are captured, 'abducted', tagged, and then released without harm. The purpose here might simply be genuine (but dispassionate) research about the human race.

• Some abductions are benevolent inasmuch as the abductee is 'shown' possible visions of the future by ETs, but then is made to forget it. The intention seems often to be to 'wake up' the abducted person and motivate them to take proactive action, maybe without even knowing why. The abductees in these cases are often 'drawn' emotionally to others who have had the same experience (maybe even in the same craft, at the same time).

• One might be a completely random experimental subject, with the intention being simply to test, improve, and develop the high technology being deployed (by humans in black ops). See Dr John Hall's research for more on this. The randomness of the choice of target makes it particularly hard to detect join-the-dots patterns.

Some abductions are benevolent inasmuch as the abductee is 'shown' possible visions of the future by ETs, but then is made to forget it. The intention seems often to be to 'wake up' the abducted person and motivate them to take proactive action, maybe without even knowing why. The abductees in these cases are often 'drawn' emotionally to others who have had the same experience (maybe even in the same craft, at the same time).

At this point in my life experience, I believe with every fiber of my being that I am one of these people.

More of my response on this thread . . . . . Deep in Foxfire Hollow (meanderings of a slightly crazy mountain woman) -- Post #53

[chocolate]

Thank you! onawah , Bill Ryan, Aviator and all of the contributors on this thread.
It all starts to form into one complete picture in my mind. I was never all that excited about aliens, but I see it is all interconnected. And I got more book ideas to explore, which is always an exquisite pleasure!

[onawah]

You might want to check the Bashar messages as well.
There is a Bashar thread with some good links in the channeled forum.

[johnf]

I find the concept of abduction to be part of the programming
that is being thrown into the mix here.
I have never experienced anything that I would call abduction, but I have had
various encounters with levels of reality , and entities (for me, other beings defy definition, if I am really looking).
I used to be quite convinced that I was sent here from elsewhere to help fix things here.
At this point I can only consider myself as a probe of awareness into various realities, and in this case it comes along with
the experience of a particular human organism.
Reading books, articles, and forum posts are all actions that can program, and clear programming.
The main difference is only the quality of awareness I bring to those activities.
Perceiving changes the system being perceived.
The more we forget that, the more we are being programmed, and the more we will miss
the opportunities in front of us.

jf

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by Youniverse (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Here are a few thoughts intended only to move things on a little in terms of possible gains in recognition or understanding.

It seems that there can be various reasons for one finding oneself caught up in something like this:

• It's possible that one has given one's consent (at a higher self level or at a previous lives level) -- but does not recall it.

• One might be being supported, even though it may not in any way feel like it. (Like a cat or a dog being taken to the vet for reasons it cannot possibly understand. The experience is traumatic, but is actually benevolent.)

• One's mind or body might be regarded as a resource that's valuable to or wanted by others in some way. E.g. exceptional psychic abilities, family bloodline, or special DNA in some other sense. In extreme cases, that resource can be used as a 'hard' asset by humans who are the abductors or abusers -- like as a mind-controlled assassin, an intel courier, or (in some extreme cases) a sex slave. Those used in any of these ways might sometimes be 100% unaware of what is or has been going on. It's noteworthy that those involved in these kinds of issues seem to be regarded by their abusers and/or abductors as 'property'.

• Concerning ET abductions of women, there is plenty of evidence that some have been used for the breeding of hybrids.

• One might simply be being tracked, just as animals in the wild are captured, 'abducted', tagged, and then released without harm. The purpose here might simply be genuine (but dispassionate) research about the human race.

• Some abductions are benevolent inasmuch as the abductee is 'shown' possible visions of the future by ETs, but then is made to forget it. The intention seems often to be to 'wake up' the abducted person and motivate them to take proactive action, maybe without even knowing why. The abductees in these cases are often 'drawn' emotionally to others who have had the same experience (maybe even in the same craft, at the same time).

• One might be a completely random experimental subject, with the intention being simply to test, improve, and develop the high technology being deployed (by humans in black ops). See Dr John Hall's research for more on this. The randomness of the choice of target makes it particularly hard to detect join-the-dots patterns.

Yes I think that's a great list of possibilities you put together there Bill. Humans have no quams about herding up cattle and vaccinating them, tagging them, even castrating them, all through a series of very distressing and at times quite painful series of procedures. Perhaps when human beings have collectively evolved to a state where we no longer find it acceptable to do this to 'lower' life forms, certain ET species will stop doing it to us. It also shows how you can be a so-called 'highly advanced' race and still be in the spiritual dark ages.

We are leading by example arent we :0 )

I guess if i were an alien species on the out side looking in .. id be talking to my co pilot and say possibly the following to it.

Hey Bert , i want to go to the new planet Sol 3 .. apparently its teaming with life and its green for inspection

Green did you say Ronnie ?

Yeah, Green Bert !

Ok .. lets make a left at Uranus , stop off for some Keretang Spice and head on over !

Awesome !

( burt presses a button and whoosh they enter earth atmos )

SO Ronnie whats given you the impression its Green for inspoection ?

Well im glad you asked Bert ... Apparently their own government do all sort of experiments on their own people all the time and get this .. They make them work in a slave operation called a " Capitolist Society " the work for food and shelter and they earn these segments of paper cut out with numbers written on them and use them for trade and bater.

Pieces of paper did you say ?

Yeah ! and they have to keep making these pieces of paper to survive ...

What ? they have to bata to stay alive ?

Yeah ! and it gets a whole lot weirder too ! they must give a portion of their segments of paper to their ruling elite and the ruling elite use the pieces pf paper to buy weapons and kill their own people !!

WHAT !? Noooooo !!!

Yeah its well documented ! And they start these things called religions to scare peole into believing that an all powerful God will hurt them if they do not give their church pieces of paper and metal ingots.

WHA !? Ronnie you MUST be joking !? they cant be that stupid .. can they ?

Well apprarently yes.. but when we get there be careful .. they don't like outsiders ..

Ah is that why they are under quarantine ?

Yeah ...

Ok well i want to document some new life samples for school anyway so lets get some humans and see how they tic .. i mean if their own governments kill them for fun then it should be ok to observe them i guess ?

Yeah makes sence to me !

So in the last 10000 earth years they havent revolted ?

No .. not really .. sometimes they do but then they get given more pieces of paper and metal ingots and they stop.. silly really they just hand them back to the groups that kill them ..

Saddistic mod these humans hey ?

Yeah reeeeal weird .. oh and guess what .. they have these groups of people who are paid for by their govenment to spread fear propoganda about us ! these people apparently walk around with what is called an " eye Phone " and apparently it has them in a trance and it dictates to them what to do next .. like breathe , eat , go to the toilet etc ...

Fear about Us ? wha ! Propoganda ?! what on guzzbert for ?

Um do dont know ..it makes no sence .. but apparently fear debilitates them from beeing free of slavery so its kind of makes them dependant .. like a baby guknark

They havent even met us yet ! i mean yeah im green and 4 foot tall but thats no reason to dislike us .. mind you if they pay their own governments to kill them then id say they are quite strange ... A baby guknark ?! i love baby guknarks , such cute widdle wascals ..

Oh look i dont get it either but just in case use a stun gun because i hear they are very violent .. they tend to shoot first and ask questions later ...

Ah ok ... ever hear of any of us making friend with them ?

Oh jah ! plenty on earth are actually nice and dont mind a bit of tech exchange for samples of skin and dna. I heard of several factions making contact but a lot of them have been taken by fear propoganda and do not make the friendship exchange.

Oh ok so proceed with caution

Yes ! oh and make sure you scan them for viruses .. apparently theirown governments engineer viruses to make them sick !

WHAAAAAAT ! you must be joking ? what in the blazes for ?

yeah , i heard they do , its so they have to give them more piecs of paper ! They ingect them with sicknesses and put it in their drinking water ! and about 60% of them drink un filtered water still! and guess what elce, ALIEN ! ... i almost forgot to tell you ! You know how water falls in the form of precipitation ? well guess what , some companies bottle it and sell it for more than double the price of fuel stock !

Oh man .. they sound quite un remarkable .. its free , falls from the sky , yet they pay for it .. hmmm mm

yeah especially those who spread fear campaigns against us .. i mean we are just scientists wanting to learn.. theres not much elce to do is there ?

We could go to Uranus Night Club for a SHuzzbut !

Nah did that last millenia and cant afford the hang over ...

aaah


N

[WhiteFeather]

Could some of us Terrans living on Planet Earth have some previous connection or family lineage to these star beings as a reason for abduction. I remember in an interview Alex Collier had said he was directly related to The Andromedans. And if being so, would they come to check up on their long lost family members perhaps like they have done with Alex. Just a thought.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Could some of us Terrans living on Planet Earth have some previous connection or family lineage to these star beings as a reason for abduction. I remember in an interview Alex Collier had said he was directly related to The Andromedans. And if being so, would they come to check up on their long lost family members perhaps like they have done with Alex. Just a thought.

No Whitefeather thats impossible because the earth is 4000 years old and it was created by god. Aliens didnt exist back then because they are new and evil.


Our family is in Kansas didnt you know : 0 )

N

( lol )

[chocolate]

Nanio, well put together. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Whitefeather, my earthly sense of truth is always alarmed when someone says he remembers he is ... related to all sort of out-of-this-world beings. Not that I think it's impossible, but the remembering part rings all sort of alarms in my heart-mind connection. But could be true.

I think all of us, on a higher level, come from all sort of space places in our spirit form, we do not originate from this planet. And I also think the benevolent abductions have to be those that leave no trace and memory at the state of everyday alertness. Only those that try to use us for their own advantage leave marks and bad memories. I do think the alien races that have created us don't need to scare us and are also so advanced that they always remain unnoticed. They could be influencing our everyday thoughts and our dreams, influencing "the matrix" that they have created in the first place and this is something we live with all the time, just we do not look at it from this perspective.

My view only- what we call God or Gods and those prayers and rituals we have, I think these are our ways of communicating with the higher realm of existence, with our parent selves and the structure of that universe that we cannot perceive right now. Probably that is why as much of a non-religious chap I might appear to be on the outside, I've always had a strong connection with that realm now when I think of it in this way. That connection was severed at one point in my life, but I later on I was given the chance to build it anew, and now is even stronger that before. Probably my experience was just so that I can never loose my faith in myself and my understanding again, like know darkness to see the light.

I don't really need much talk about aliens, and proofs of their existence in my life in general. I sort of have lived with that idea from the start. And I feel we have put all sort of names and definitions on things that blur for me their true nature. Aliens, gods, this and that. It is so much easier sometimes to leave things unnamed and to have less words and more observation... but that is just me, I am created in this way and it feels familiar to stay in that state.

But I most definitely am grateful for the information about what I think some of us do to us, and the sick experiments some of us need to survive. I don't recall bad experience in this area.

onawah , Bashar is a known face for me for some time, and I really enjoy him. As i once though to myself, he gives a condensed and more user-friendly version of a dharma talk than most of the real buddhist can achieve.

[Spiral]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Could some of us Terrans living on Planet Earth have some previous connection or family lineage to these star beings as a reason for abduction. I remember in an interview Alex Collier had said he was directly related to The Andromedans. And if being so, would they come to check up on their long lost family members perhaps like they have done with Alex. Just a thought.

This is certainly the case at this present time, the same individuals are also prone to MILABS for the information they have, esp the stuff in the subconscious.



There would seem to be a spectrum of reasons for abductions, and the underlying pattern is still one that hasn't gelled into a coherent picture.

The problem is we are looking from a human perspective, like in the Alien invasion films where they act like US Marines, because thats the best invasion model the script writers have !

Comparing Human Abduction to what we do with animals is not helpful, and is really quite insulting to abductees, as they do not have the higher cognitive functions and abilities, nor do they have the same abilities re energies either.

The real damage & scars are those in & pertaining to the mind, and as with all trauma its the loss of power & control that is the root of so much fear, the subconscious knows exactly what happened whilst the mind tries to rationalise it away, meanwhile the nervous system goes into overdrive & stays there.

If they wanted to just take Earth over they could have done it a long time ago before we had the types of weapons we have now.

If they wanted us to stop destroying the planet then why not abduct Bilderbergers instead of people with no power ?

Why do they leave just enough in the mind to cause PTSD etc but not enough to make sense of it all ?

Whats really going on with the implants ? Its more than tracking isn't it ?

Whats with electrocuting people ??? Anyone else had that ?