Here and Now...What's Happening?

[1inMany]

Well. Thank you for that...clarification. You have an...interesting perspective. I appreciate the time it took to reply.

And as I learn to understand others, I learn so much more about myself.

Much Love,

[donk]

Heh...I'm just teasing anyway. People get so caught up with words nowadays. I'm switching to literalist of the queen's English.

[dan33]

Carmody has left me his PC Quantum. Im searching movies never made on alternative Universes. I'll dowload them on the Here and Now Thread.

WE ARE ALL RELATED.

[ulli]

Posted by jiminii (here)
yes i think you got it

basically when we came out of the static we are infinitely powerful children ,,.. there is NOTHING ... NO EMOTION ... like happy sad fear anger ... none of that is created yet ...
we first had to create space .. and then how to make it so things would not disappear .. so we needed a space time continuum that ran in automatic ... everyone in this universe is creating all of it ... whether they are aware of it or not ...
everything else had to be created ... even love hate .. all the emotions ... every consideration is JUST a consideration until SOMEONE else can realize it and agree to it ... that is .. to say .. if we create blue ... we have to get others to be able to see this blue .. and then we can give it a name ...

so now the game is between those that had powers against those who want all the property that was created by those that had the powers to create it ... they want to get rid of those that have power so they can control everyone with the ownership of the property ... you see if those that have power can create one planet after another .. then those that don't have power can not make the property scarce so they can raise the price on it and suppress everyone by owning it and making it expensive for others to have ...

so they would rather kill those that have power so they can not make any more real estate so those with no power can control everyone by owning the real estate ...

so they get those that have power to fight others with power ... and get them to create weapons against the big beings ... (created by the big beings because only they would know how to pull down another big being) ... so the big beings create weapons to take down another big being .. never thinking he could be taken down too .... until more and more are trapped on these prison planets ... you see they can't kill a spirit .. they can only trap him and make him lose his memory by scrambling it with false memories ..

so yes I would say we were stupid enough to create the weapons needed to take down others like us ... and NEVER ..FIND A TECHNOLOGY TO UNTRAP A BIG BEING ... not very intelligent ...

but now that we are all trapped ... when we are free again ... we will not be so stupid to have only a technology that traps ... and not create a technology that untraps ...
all that technology is in the future being sent back to this time ... to help us get our abilities and memories back

jim

I know that at one level of my being I can understand what you are saying here, Jim.
We just use different words to express this truth.
What I do mainly is cast my imagination to a state of timelessness,
which means my being enters the state of my earliest origins and also my ultimate destiny,
which are somehow merged.
The Here and Now has all the other times and places in it...if only we could see that...

I don't see that much difference between someone having faith in an almighty God, or Goddess,
or faith in their own innate powers. As well as the potential in other people.
Our uniqueness is vital, and has to be embraced before we can see the wholeness factor.
Just musing.

[peterspm]

I could be wrong. God created us, the good angels, lucifer, and all the angels who followed lucifer. God is not willing to give up anyone, eventually we will all return to God, to being a part of God. in the meantime, we struggle to return from where we came.

[araucaria]

Yes, "we struggle", until we realize that's not how it's done

[jiminii]

Posted by peterspm (here)
I could be wrong. God created us, the good angels, lucifer, and all the angels who followed lucifer. God is not willing to give up anyone, eventually we will all return to God, to being a part of God. in the meantime, we struggle to return from where we came.

God (the one you read about in some book ) was created by the Reptilians to distort our thinking so they can control us with it ... If we believe only this GOD has power we can never get up enough power ourselves to free us from the force fields that trap us to this planet ... Siddhartha Gautama 2500 years ago (BUDDHA) .. managed to free himself from this prison ..(which is pretty amazing since these prisons have been designed over billions of years and Spirits just DON'T ESCAPE a PRISON PLANET) ... so how did he do it ???? he did it by somehow getting his spirit out of the physical body and was able to see who he really was .. but that was only part of it ... Metteyya .. that is the spirit of Buddha ... has other bodies OFF this planet ... and were also able to guide him ...

one way Scientology uses today to keep people from having their memories scrambled and wiped out between lifetimes is a very simple process ... when you die ... just stay in communication with your friends ... (who have the ability to operate freely out of the body) .. and you will be able to come back into a body here without going through an implant station ...

so why would you want to come back to this planet ...???? ... because it is safer here than up there in the Galaxy and you won't make it for very long up there by yourself ...

so it is better to get more able beings who can operate out of their bodies and know how to NOT get stuck in that game again ,., and go up as a group ... even with all the cabal doing their stuff ... it is still safer here to keep your spiritual reality ... but up there ... if you demonstrated any of your powers ... they would probably find a way to trap you and send you back here anyway ...

it is this short time ... and we did win this game in the future ... this time is being repeated .. to salvage more ... and with a few like bill and the people he knows .. I think we will make it through .... and the cabal ... they will collapse with their own economies and then where will they go ???? their money will be worthless ,.. no one will help them ...

the combined spiritual power is winning on this planet even though it looks the other way ... OH YEA .. they scream and holler and give a great show ... but even the people that followed them don't see a future with them either ...

we just have to hold the place a little longer ... and we will be able to rejoin the confederation of planets ... and clean this mess up ,.,

jim

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by dan33 (here)
Carmody has left me his PC Quantum.

Here's the URL to that image, so that others can view it. That website is setup so that it ignores requests to provide images that are embedded in other websites (such as here). But if you go directly to the link, you can view the image. And if you then refresh your post, the image shows there, which is why you were seeing the image, but others (myself at least) weren't seeing it.

http://www.cherrybombed.com/wp-conte...ster1sdfsd.jpg

[meeradas]

Posted by Paul (here)
http://www.cherrybombed.com/wp-conte...ster1sdfsd.jpg

Didn't work for me, either.

Erm, wait... *fumble*... *clunk* [btw, thanks, Dan! I guess i do need a copy of this one...]

[araucaria]

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Posted by peterspm (here)

God (the one you read about in some book )

Sure Jim, but we are talking about the real experience, the one that no book or Reptilian can contaminate. Call it God or whatever, it is the one beacon we have right here within this mess that we are clearing up - the immanence that some would have us believe is transcendent.

[jiminii]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
God (the one you read about in some book )

Sure Jim, but we are talking about the real experience, the one that no book or Reptilian can contaminate. Call it God or whatever, it is the one beacon we have right here within this mess that we are clearing up - the immanence that some would have us believe is transcendent.

well if you want to call the static itself that is all knowing and all powerful ... GOD ... I can agree ... but this GOD does not create anything .. because it already knows the result
it has to have pieces break off from it ... that doesn't know everything .... because knowing everything would vanish everything in the physical universe back to the static

so to operate in this physical universe you have to be less than a god ... you have to NOT KNOW ... what you created or it would vanish ...and there would be no universe at all

so therefore any god that is operating in this universe .. is less than a god ,.. that is all knowing and all powerful ... that god can not see this universe ... because knowing it would vanish it ..

jim

[araucaria]

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
God (the one you read about in some book )

Sure Jim, but we are talking about the real experience, the one that no book or Reptilian can contaminate. Call it God or whatever, it is the one beacon we have right here within this mess that we are clearing up - the immanence that some would have us believe is transcendent.

well if you want to call the static itself that is all knowing and all powerful ... GOD ... I can agree ... but this GOD does not create anything .. because it already knows the result
it has to have pieces break off from it ... that doesn't know everything .... because knowing everything would vanish everything in the physical universe back to the static

so to operate in this physical universe you have to be less than a god ... you have to NOT KNOW ... what you created or it would vanish ...and there would be no universe at all

so therefore any god that is operating in this universe .. is less than a god ,.. that is all knowing and all powerful ... that god can not see this universe ... because knowing it would vanish it ..

jim

Yes; this ties in with the kabbalist notion (nothing to do with the cabal ) of tsimtsoum, whereby God shrinks or withdraws to make room for the creation, which being essentially creative, explores novel outcomes as opposed to basking in all-knowingness.

[jiminii]

Posted by araucaria (here)

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Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
God (the one you read about in some book )

Sure Jim, but we are talking about the real experience, the one that no book or Reptilian can contaminate. Call it God or whatever, it is the one beacon we have right here within this mess that we are clearing up - the immanence that some would have us believe is transcendent.

well if you want to call the static itself that is all knowing and all powerful ... GOD ... I can agree ... but this GOD does not create anything .. because it already knows the result
it has to have pieces break off from it ... that doesn't know everything .... because knowing everything would vanish everything in the physical universe back to the static

so to operate in this physical universe you have to be less than a god ... you have to NOT KNOW ... what you created or it would vanish ...and there would be no universe at all

so therefore any god that is operating in this universe .. is less than a god ,.. that is all knowing and all powerful ... that god can not see this universe ... because knowing it would vanish it ..

jim

Yes; this ties in with the kabbalist notion (nothing to do with the cabal ) of tsimtsoum, whereby God shrinks or withdraws to make room for the creation, which being essentially creative, explores novel outcomes as opposed to basking in all-knowingness.

yes being all knowing lacks experience ... to this way the all knowing can experience

jim

[ulli]

For some people God equals church, but most Avalonians who have mentioned God around here
have had direct encounters...
IOW, they entered states of being that resemble the cleared state.
When in that state it is easy to see how the entrapment happens...

If I were to sit in a circle with Caholics reciting the rosary, repeating over and over that we are all sinners...
I can see myself quickly reentering the scarcity paradigm.

All depends on interpretation...whether it comes from the fragmented mind, or the unified heart.
The fragment will always be needy, while the unified whole will always be still and content, and radiant.
So we simply choose our state of being.

The mind is ruled by Mercury, and Mercury is not only a planet but also a metal which fragments easily.
Just as language and words represent part or fragments of the whole...

Yet the meaning behind words represent a feeling which is about connections, bridge-building, the road to wholeness.
Once that meaning is grasped then all issues dissolve.

[ulli]

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

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Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
God (the one you read about in some book )

Sure Jim, but we are talking about the real experience, the one that no book or Reptilian can contaminate. Call it God or whatever, it is the one beacon we have right here within this mess that we are clearing up - the immanence that some would have us believe is transcendent.

well if you want to call the static itself that is all knowing and all powerful ... GOD ... I can agree ... but this GOD does not create anything .. because it already knows the result
it has to have pieces break off from it ... that doesn't know everything .... because knowing everything would vanish everything in the physical universe back to the static

so to operate in this physical universe you have to be less than a god ... you have to NOT KNOW ... what you created or it would vanish ...and there would be no universe at all

so therefore any god that is operating in this universe .. is less than a god ,.. that is all knowing and all powerful ... that god can not see this universe ... because knowing it would vanish it ..

jim

Yes; this ties in with the kabbalist notion (nothing to do with the cabal ) of tsimtsoum, whereby God shrinks or withdraws to make room for the creation, which being essentially creative, explores novel outcomes as opposed to basking in all-knowingness.

yes being all knowing lacks experience ... to this way the all knowing can experience

jim

In the Wingmakers this is described as we are the fingertips of Source...have to google now to find the exact quote.

[ulli]

For some reason the search engine produced no results.
Found this quote though...not bad either....

This is the principle that First Source is present in all realities through all manifestations of energy. IT is interwoven in all things like a mosaic whose pieces adhere to the same wall, and are thus, unified. However, it is not the picture that unifies the mosaic, but the wall upon which its pieces adhere. Similarly, First Source paints a picture so diverse and apparently unrelated that there appears to be no unification. Yet it is not the outward manifestations that unify, it is the inward center of energy upon which the pieces of diversity are layered that unifies all manifestations.

[ulli]

And another quote...


In most cultures where the term "god" or "goddess" is used to define this omnipotent power, it often represents an entity that has evolved beyond the range of human comprehension and who manifests magical powers like manipulating the natural elements through thought or manifesting as non-corporeal Light Beings.


These manifestations are described and depicted in virtually all cultures of the human race through its religious texts and mythology.
While these may be entities that are highly evolved in their abilities and knowledge, they should not be confused with First Source.


Found on this page: http://www.wingmakers.com/glossary.html

[Conchis]

I used to say.... The man who knows nothing and the man who knows everything are in the same position....neither has any questions....

[ulli]

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
God (the one you read about in some book )

Sure Jim, but we are talking about the real experience, the one that no book or Reptilian can contaminate. Call it God or whatever, it is the one beacon we have right here within this mess that we are clearing up - the immanence that some would have us believe is transcendent.

well if you want to call the static itself that is all knowing and all powerful ... GOD ... I can agree ... but this GOD does not create anything .. because it already knows the result
it has to have pieces break off from it ... that doesn't know everything .... because knowing everything would vanish everything in the physical universe back to the static

so to operate in this physical universe you have to be less than a god ... you have to NOT KNOW ... what you created or it would vanish ...and there would be no universe at all

so therefore any god that is operating in this universe .. is less than a god ,.. that is all knowing and all powerful ... that god can not see this universe ... because knowing it would vanish it ..

jim

Yes; this ties in with the kabbalist notion (nothing to do with the cabal ) of tsimtsoum, whereby God shrinks or withdraws to make room for the creation, which being essentially creative, explores novel outcomes as opposed to basking in all-knowingness.

yes being all knowing lacks experience ... to this way the all knowing can experience

jim

Since we are talking of questions and answers ...
What questions does this article raise?
(Assuming that the answer will be provided together with the question.)

I just want to bring stuff to Jiminii's attention here...
We can then be creative together.



"Monsanto contacts are known to the notorious former secret service agent Joseph Cofer Black, who helped formulate the law of the jungle in the fight against terrorists and other enemies. He is a specialist on dirty work, a total hardliner. He worked for the CIA for almost three decades, among other things as the head of anti-terroism. He later became vice president of the private security company Blackwater, which sent tens of thousands of soldiers to Iraq and Afghanistan under US government orders."

"Thanks to Snowden and Wikileaks, the world has a new idea of how these friends and partners operate where power and money are concerned. The whistle-blowing platform published embassy dispatches two years ago, which also included details about Monsanto and genetic engineering."

"For example, in 2007, the former US ambassador in Paris, Craig Stapleton, suggested the US government should create a penalties list for EU states which wanted to forbid the cultivation of genetically engineered plants from American companies. The wording of the secret dispatch: "Country team Paris recommends that we calibrate a target retaliation list that causes some pain across the EU." Pain, retaliation: not exactly the language of diplomacy."


From this page:
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/new...-activists-and

[araucaria]

Posted by Conchis (here)
I used to say.... The man who knows nothing and the man who knows everything are in the same position....neither has any questions....

When Socrates says ‘I know that I know nothing’ he is not making a wryly self-contradictory statement; he is saying he does not know nearly enough.


The ‘need to know’ has been turned completely upside down to serve the perverse ends of secrecy. There is so much that we all need to know. It is only when creative people get the info they need that things can happen, hence all the dumbing down.

Edit: just come across this: A.N. Whitehead on epistemology: ‘No question can be clarified by the fact of introducing a mind that knows.’