What if time is on our side?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Justintime (here)
So the rounding up of people to put in reeducation camps, population reduction, taking away the second amendment, chipping people, establishing a one world government, I'm just not buying any of this. It's all unnecessary to further their agenda of making money. In fact some of it is counterproductive to making money.

But it's not about money, you see. It's about power and control.

That's the aphrodisiac. These guys are multi-billionaires already. They don't need any more.

When Hitler decided to exterminate the Jews, because of an agenda he had about eugenics and racial domination, this was nothing to do with money.

[Justintime]

They have all the power they could want now and who knows the means by which they will try to advance their party line. If they wanted to secretly chip us they could have done so already. If they want to spy on us oh wait they already have and are if they wanted to mind f us, oh wait they can do it already and are. I get that they get off on control, murder and power, but come on, this supposed acopaplypse put on by the ruling elite was suppose to happen since forever ago.

[novus]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Justintime (here)
So the rounding up of people to put in reeducation camps, population reduction, taking away the second amendment, chipping people, establishing a one world government, I'm just not buying any of this. It's all unnecessary to further their agenda of making money. In fact some of it is counterproductive to making money.

But it's not about money, you see. It's about power and control.

That's the aphrodisiac. These guys are multi-billionaires already. They don't need any more.

When Hitler decided to exterminate the Jews, because of an agenda he had about eugenics and racial domination, this was nothing to do with money.

I think so to.

The old cliche, "follow the money" doesn't always apply. The majority of us need and use money to better our lives. Because most of us are good and have a hard time imagining others using money to enslave others, it puts us at a disadvantage.

[donk]

Posted by Justintime (here)
They have all the power they could want now and who knows the means by which they will try to advance their party line. If they wanted to secretly chip us they could have done so already. If they want to spy on us oh wait they already have and are if they wanted to mind f us, oh wait they can do it already and are. I get that they get off on control, murder and power, but come on, this supposed acopaplypse put on by the ruling elite was suppose to happen since forever ago.

The "supposed apocolypse" is a ruse, a distraction...I think Orwell was on to something...think 1984

[Justintime]

Yeah I think Orwell was on the payroll

[donk]

What difference does that make? Playbook or prophecy, it’s come along quite nicely (for them), ain't it? And if I remember correctly, $$$ wasn’t Big Brother’s motivator…

[donk]

Not to mention: doesn’t it beg the question…what kind of being lives for (gets energy from) **_____**?

**(money, control, fear, fill in whatever you feel the societal motivators of “civilization” you like)

[Fred Steeves]

In this instance I've come to see people like walking, talking acupuncture needles upon this planet (if they're getting into sync with things anyway). We each have a certain energy signature, and that energy has a precise match to a corresponding energy point on the Earth's surface. There is absolutely nothing to figure out intellectually concerning where that place is, simply going with the "flow" will place us where we are supposed to be.

This is the place where things start to roll, and magic is in the air.

I concur 100% with Bill that my country (the U.S.) is eerily similar to latter 1930's Germany, and we have all come to know that history has a way of repeating itself over and over again. That being said, there is no Universal Law I'm aware of which states this MUST be so. Maybe the worst happens, but then again maybe it doesn't. Maybe the place of greatest danger, also represents the place of greatest opportunity to Create a different outcome. Maybe even something very special...

We're all in this thing together, so no matter where we are, I hope when the director yells "places everyone, places!", that we're already in our proper places.

Even though it's tough times for you right now Jeff, I'm glad you're going to be here. If you ever make it over Knoxville way give me a yell man. I'll buy the beer!

Cheers,

Fred

[Justintime]

Posted by donk (here)
Not to mention: doesn’t it beg the question…what kind of being lives for (gets energy from) **_____**?

**(money, control, fear, fill in whatever you feel the societal motivators of “civilization” you like)

You could say we all do. It would be a grave mistake to believe what they do I do not or can not we all would and do on some scale.

[donk]

I can say I try not to. That any time I have, it was not truly me, rather my cultural programming--which never felt right to me. It is not who I am.

I think we are in agreement "civilized socitey" is dysfunctional, but I no longer believe it is "human nature"...in fact, I believe that is a "big lie".

But that's just me...

[Justintime]

Posted by donk (here)
I can say I try not to. That any time I have, it was not truly me, rather my cultural programming--which never felt right to me.

I think we are in agreement "civilized socitey" is dysfunctional, I no longer believe it is "human nature"...in fact, I believe that is a "big lie".

But that's just me...

Yes, I do think that we have been programmed to believe certain things about ourselves and I don't know what human nature truly is. I'm not sure we know what anything in its natural state would be as well. I suspect foul play , however to give all the power and blame of this foul play to an all elusive, seemingly all powerful,"other," to me is not a productive way of thinking. If our lack of thought control, our own ability to control our thoughts, has given way to a stage whereby our hidden thoughts or shadow self is running a muck, well, it's still in our control then. I can wake up with a sense of purpose and think, what I do matters and what I think can change the world, well that's powerful, that's productive.

Ironically, I don't think this very often.

[gripreaper]

Posted by donk (here)
Not to mention: doesn’t it beg the question…what kind of being lives for (gets energy from) **_____**?

One who is bereft of a soul, disconnected from the source field, and is vampiring energy from others because it does not have the ability to sustain a heart centered amalgamation of energy flowing through it. In other words, a functionally dead psychopathic alien zombie.

But, look in the mirror when you talk about energy vampirism, as we have all been taught to partake in vamping others, through "competition" and survival of the fittest mentality. Who are the fittest? Those who can use their fellow man to aggrandize themselves for personal hedonism and desire, based on a paradigm of scarcity and limited resources taught to us by these psychopathic parasites.
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The establishment kool-aid sits on every dinner table, and we all drink from it, either wittingly or unwittingly. We eat from the fruits of the exploitations of the planet, and vomit upon our plates that which we loathe, as we regurgitate from fear of lack.

We are not separate from it. Our very DNA is spliced, programmed, and resonant to the very core of our being. If we push our chairs away from the table and say, I will not partake of this meal any longer, we risk starvation without a new paradigm of energy from which to sustain us. We are the children of the matrix, the very chimeric hybrids who hold this reality of this hologram in place.

So, while we shake our fists at the castle walls, and shout out to our oppressors for the evil which they have perpetrated upon us, stealing the original heritage of the indigenous souls who were doing just fine before these aliens came and hybridized us, and splicing into our very core the attributes which we say we loathe, we do not really loathe them.

We use every day, the sciences, the mathematics, the horticulture, the astrology, the astronomy, and the medicines which they brought. The indigenous species took a huge leap in evolution due to the joinder of our selves with these god beings from space.

If we want to change the nature of who we are, then we need to go within and denounce and control those very aspects we loathe, within ourselves. The problem is never "out there" and neither are the answers. We need to accept our nature, own it, and husband it for it's true heart and soul, the true spiritual evolution of what we agreed to do here on this planet.

This hybridization and melding of the indigenous with an alien species, was not done under duress. We allowed it, were culpable in it's creation, and therefore are just as responsible for the outcome today, however many millions of years later, as we were the day it happened.

Until we own this at our deepest core, we are shouting at the wind and our intentions do not ground and coalesce within the matrix of creation. We did it. Own it.

[Observer1964]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by 4evrneo (here)
"Live like water"

Going with the Flow
A Taoist story tells of an old man who accidentally fell into the river rapids leading to a high and dangerous waterfall. Onlookers feared for his life. Miraculously, he came out alive and unharmed downstream at the bottom of the falls. People asked him how he managed to survive.
"I accommodated myself to the water, not the water to me. Without thinking, I allowed myself to be shaped by it. Plunging into the swirl, I came out with the swirl. This is how I survived."

Like this, right?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IZUeFzuK6LM

Great quote and much how I feel it personally. I believed the Earth would shift her poles back in 5-5-2000 becoz the planets all aligned and i saw some documantaries about it, then 12-21-2012 and those dates just came and went and nuthing happened. And I do believe at some point it might happen... but on the other hand, what if our behaviour determins the outcome like the observer effect in quantum physics, and every doom-profecy is like a warning upon wich we react and thus change the outcome, like someone warns you for danger so you change whatever u were doing and avoid that danger and so it never happens...

So maybe we are all doing what we should be doing...

[Sunny-side-up]

Well I've nothing new to add to this post, all great and wise words have been spoken!
but!
I will wish you a safe and happy journey when the time comes RUSirius and let it be the time of your choice.

[RUSirius]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
In this instance I've come to see people like walking, talking acupuncture needles upon this planet (if they're getting into sync with things anyway). We each have a certain energy signature, and that energy has a precise match to a corresponding energy point on the Earth's surface. There is absolutely nothing to figure out intellectually concerning where that place is, simply going with the "flow" will place us where we are supposed to be.

This is the place where things start to roll, and magic is in the air.

I concur 100% with Bill that my country (the U.S.) is eerily similar to latter 1930's Germany, and we have all come to know that history has a way of repeating itself over and over again. That being said, there is no Universal Law I'm aware of which states this MUST be so. Maybe the worst happens, but then again maybe it doesn't. Maybe the place of greatest danger, also represents the place of greatest opportunity to Create a different outcome. Maybe even something very special...

We're all in this thing together, so no matter where we are, I hope when the director yells "places everyone, places!", that we're already in our proper places.

Even though it's tough times for you right now Jeff, I'm glad you're going to be here. If you ever make it over Knoxville way give me a yell man. I'll buy the beer!

Cheers,

Fred

Fred, remember I've got family in Knoxville and I'll be seein you pretty soon. I'm going where you have left my friend, the good ole sunshine state.

[thunder24]

I knew I liked your style... Knoxville you say, interesting... maybe you should join the volunteers...

Posted by RUSirius (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
In this instance I've come to see people like walking, talking acupuncture needles upon this planet (if they're getting into sync with things anyway). We each have a certain energy signature, and that energy has a precise match to a corresponding energy point on the Earth's surface. There is absolutely nothing to figure out intellectually concerning where that place is, simply going with the "flow" will place us where we are supposed to be.

This is the place where things start to roll, and magic is in the air.

I concur 100% with Bill that my country (the U.S.) is eerily similar to latter 1930's Germany, and we have all come to know that history has a way of repeating itself over and over again. That being said, there is no Universal Law I'm aware of which states this MUST be so. Maybe the worst happens, but then again maybe it doesn't. Maybe the place of greatest danger, also represents the place of greatest opportunity to Create a different outcome. Maybe even something very special...

We're all in this thing together, so no matter where we are, I hope when the director yells "places everyone, places!", that we're already in our proper places.

Even though it's tough times for you right now Jeff, I'm glad you're going to be here. If you ever make it over Knoxville way give me a yell man. I'll buy the beer!

Cheers,

Fred

Fred, remember I've got family in Knoxville and I'll be seein you pretty soon. I'm going where you have left my friend, the good ole sunshine state.

[Finefeather]

I have in mind a larger possibility than just been controlled by these dark brothers...which in comparison can result in a delay in our consciousness growth of millions of years.
It is known by some that Lemuria and Atlantis went down because of incompatibility with the plan of the forces of light, of which we are part of...even if most may not know this.
Few on this forum have considered that there comes a time when chaos needs to be eliminated, and the only viable option to restore the plan on earth...a plan which is been constantly attacked by the dark forces inhabiting our planet. America seems to be the center or hub of these dark forces...who are extremely money and power oriented and everything is about "profit to me and loss to you...no matter what I need to do". So planetary upheaval seems to be most evident in some way or another...only this time, if it is war, we might be unwittingly fighting on the side of the dark forces. Major planetary catastrophe cannot be overlooked.

This plan, of the forces of light, which is, the continuation of consciousness, from one incarnation to another, and unity of the collective minds of the human race is under severe and serious disruption.

The biggest problem right now is NOT that we are been prevented from growth by planned and deliberate bad education...but rather prevented from recalling our knowledge from previous lives. Once we become aware of a life of love it is easy to grow spiritually...but if we never become aware of this there is no growth.

Most humans on this planet have been incarnating for around 20 million years...and we have all had 10s of thousands of incarnation on this and other planets...so there is no lack of subconscious or latent knowledge from our past lives...we never loose anything we have learnt...the past knowledge reappears in the form of instincts and remembrance...IF the conditions are right. Each incarnation is a new beginning, in terms of our various envelopes or bodies which are created when we incarnate...our subconscious is our history and if we do not have the proper upbringing to recall our knowledge from our past we just end up like simple morons who are been fed and mind indoctrinated by the ignorant...a vicious circle which needs to be broken.

How do we break this cycle? We basically have to confine our children to areas where the 'positive force' is been lived out day to day...something not unlike the mormons of old...we need to be able to bring children up in a society where the forces of light are in full control...only this will normalize the plan on earth...the problem is how do we do this?

It starts with moving out of the cities and back to the open grounds where we are far away from supporting the commercial exploitation we see in the world today. It continues with sacrificing all the unnecessary things we buy and hoard just to keep up with the Jones's. It means realizing that we are all united because we are one consciousness...one mind...in the heart, where love resides.

Take care
Ray

[Justintime]

"Fred, remember I've got family in Knoxville and I'll be seein you pretty soon. I'm going where you have left my friend, the good ole sunshine state."

Well, welcome back to Florida! I hope everything goes well for ya. I've really grown to love Florida, hopefully you will too.

[mosquito]

As someone who's been travelling around trying to find the place where I can live, grow spiritually and hopefully even raise children, I can confirm that there is nowhere left. At least not that I've found. I've never put any investment into "the system", always believing that the future I wanted for myself and humanity was on the horizon. We're now in July 2013, I'm 55 in a few days time, and DO NOT feel that time is on my side any longer. Rules and regulations are multiplying and becoming ever more assinine, doors are slamming, goalposts are being moved - use whatever metaphor you like. I've been thrown back into survival mode, and I don't like it; stress is making me ill, spiritual growth is non-existant and all I can do is live day to day and try to keep a grip on the tiny glimmer of hope that still exists. Everybody says "be the change you wish to see", well, I try and I try, but wherever I go, I'm faced with the fact that the majority of my fellow humans appear to actually want to be controlled and kept in servitude.

I'm with Skippy - we, as a community need to acquire an island. Seriously.

[ghostrider]

sounds like problem , reaction, solution... the nwo is creating an endgame problem, you react, they have a solution ready ... don't fall for their fear game, they have made a huge mistake, they didn't calculate on us being awake and fearless and powerful ... our collective thoughts can influence them, they don't know this ...I don't know any other way to say this, get a photo of one of the cabal members, or those responsible for the agenda, focus on the picture and clear your mind, just look at it, vibrations can be sent , and it will affect that person , it will mess with their dreams , and they will leave the game or fight for the good ...your intention of thought is what made the universe, it is very , very powerful ... you are a galaxy in a body , know it , use it, experiment , it is a game changer... much like Bill's thread focusing the transformational lens, in principal it works the same way , it can work with a photo ...you marvelous human creators as Ion would say ... it can be , because you choose it to be ... I have been putting to task the teaching of the ancients and woe, my mind goes 1,000 miles an hour ...its up to you to feel it, explore it , and know it ... ever get a rush of cool air raising all the hairs on your body ??? hint you have awesome power my friend , hang in there , change is coming ...