Backlash Against Airport Body Scans!

[lisa]

Remember how the whole incident was staged?
Months prior to the incident, Underwear Bomber's dad reported his son to the US Embassy because of his "extreme religious views". They put him in the terrorism database, but let him keep his U.S. Visa, did not put him on the "no-fly" list and let him fly without luggages to the US! Immediately after the incident, they blasted the creepy body scanners all over the news and rolled them out in a couple weeks. What a ridiculous script! What do they think we are, idiots or zombies?

[Fredkc]

What a ridiculous script! What do they think we are, idiots or zombies?

Both.

CNN did a story on the Congressional hearings, and the "reported resentment" of the scanners and searches.
Then they produced a poll that said 80% of us "normal people" wanted everyone to be scanned!

What it proves the the adage about the fact that tyranny only works when the tyrants use issues over things people really want, anyway (to be "safe", for instance).

Since they are "staying within those bounds", meaning people still think someone else can provide safety for them, this will make the run in the "48 hr news cycle" and then people will probably just stand there and "think about baseball" while they're groped.
</rant ends>
Fred

[Fredkc]

Dan;
What's going down there in the S.D. airport Fred?

Basically the government does what it always does.
It begins with something patently illegal, unconstitutional.
Then it lies about what and how it does it.
Then it lies to it's victims.
Then it tells the man, if he leaves he will be prosecuted.
Then when they show him the door, they lie about doing it.
Then they want to prosecute the man for leaving, as he was told.
Then they lie to the press, about what happened.

See a pattern here?

You can see a very good account of it all on a different forum here. The OP is a guy named Fred (not me) I am Fredkc over there, too. Post #1 and #8 pretty much tell it all.
Fred

[Ahkenaten]

OK, here is a cartoon clip from the orient

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TBL3ux1o0tM

on this subject that illustrates my suggestion that everyone eventually will be required to fly naked!

[ascendingstarseed]

Well here's some good news, maybe we reached the tipping point...New Jersey legislators from both sides of the isle are working together to fight this issue.
Leaders:

State Senator Michael Doherty (R)
State Senator James Beach (D)
State Senator Diane Allen (R)

Assembly members:

Erik Peterson (R)
Alison McHose (R)
John DiMaio (R)
Valerie Vanieri Huttle (D)

Deborah Jacobs, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey

Check out the press conference...

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/981.html

[Ahkenaten]

Also we should require that the politicians and corporate bosses who fly first class, as a security measure, have bar codes affixed to their foreheads for positive identification purposes, for their own good of course!

[Fredkc]

My post at my favorite "Paranoid Prepper's Forum", this morning:

My refusal to fly has cost me several good contract jobs.
Friends and even family beyond comfortable driving distance (~1000 mi.) now receive regular Christmas cards, instead of my charming presence.

What's gonna stop this UNConstitutional, illegal BS?
Probably about 2 weeks of absolutely no one getting on an airplane.

It simply comes down to this:
Would you rather live, x-ray'd, groped, and generally treated like a criminal instead of a customer in an unabashed police state?

Or would you prefer to live poor but free?

"What are you prepared to do?" - Sean Connery, Untouchables

Fred

[Carmody]

John Travolta in, 'The Thin Red Line', to Nick Nolte: "How Much do you want that Island?"

Nolte,"As Much as I have to, Sir".

[Fredkc]

November 17, 2010 Introducing the American Traveler Dignity Act

Mr. Speaker, today I introduce legislation to protect Americans from physical and emotional abuse by federal Transportation Security Administration employees conducting screenings at the nation’s airports. We have seen the videos of terrified children being grabbed and probed by airport screeners. We have read the stories of Americans being subjected to humiliating body imaging machines and/or forced to have the most intimate parts of their bodies poked and fondled. We do not know the potentially harmful effects of the radiation emitted by the new millimeter wave machines.

In one recent well-publicized case, a TSA official is recorded during an attempted body search saying, “By buying your ticket you gave up a lot of rights.” I strongly disagree and am sure I am not alone in believing that we Americans should never give up our rights in order to travel. As our Declaration of Independence states, our rights are inalienable. This TSA version of our rights looks more like the “rights” granted in the old Soviet Constitutions, where freedoms were granted to Soviet citizens -- right up to the moment the state decided to remove those freedoms.

The incident of the so-called “underwear bomber” last Christmas is given as justification for the billions of dollars the federal government is spending on the new full-body imaging machines, but a Government Accountability Office study earlier this year concluded that had these scanners been in use they may not have detected the explosive material that was allegedly brought onto the airplane. Additionally, there have been recent press reports calling into question the accuracy and adequacy of these potentially dangerous machines.

My legislation is simple. It establishes that airport security screeners are not immune from any US law regarding physical contact with another person, making images of another person, or causing physical harm through the use of radiation-emitting machinery on another person. It means they are subject to the same laws as the rest of us. Imagine if the political elites in our country were forced to endure the same conditions at the airport as business travelers, families, senior citizens, and the rest of us. Perhaps this problem could be quickly resolved if every cabinet secretary, every member of Congress, and every department head in the Obama administration were forced to submit to the same degrading screening process as the people who pay their salaries.

I warned at the time of the creation of the TSA that an unaccountable government entity in control of airport security would provide neither security nor defend our basic freedom to travel. Yet the vast majority of both Republicans and Democrats then in Congress willingly voted to create another unaccountable, bullying agency-- in a simple-minded and unprincipled attempt to appease public passion in the wake of 9-11. Sadly, as we see with the steady TSA encroachment on our freedom and dignity, my fears in 2001 were justified.

The solution to the need for security at US airports is not a government bureaucracy. The solution is to allow the private sector, preferably the airlines themselves, to provide for the security of their property. As a recent article in Forbes magazine eloquently stated, “The airlines have enormous sums of money riding on passenger safety, and the notion that a government bureaucracy has better incentives to provide safe travels than airlines with billions of dollars worth of capital and goodwill on the line strains credibility.” In the meantime, I hope we can pass this legislation and protect Americans from harm and humiliation when they choose to travel.
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For 30 years, this man has an unwavering track record of legislating, and voting with two things in mind, the Constitution, and the people's freedom.

That is ALL Congress was ever asked to do. It is so sad that he is the only Congressman left, who still thinks that is important.
Fred

[Bill Ryan]

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Here's the solution:

Strip nearly naked, having painted your body with interesting remarks.

Enjoy this!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0jrgUhOrHFU

[Fredkc]

From MSNBC:

“TSA is not going have the manpower to stick their hands in the pants of every man coming through there,” said James Babb, a 42-year-old advertising consultant from the Philadelphia area who co-founded WeWontFly.com.

According to e-mails Babb has received this week via his website — which he says gets 70,000 hits per day — some male flyers plan to arrive at nearby airports on Nov. 24 wearing kilts but no underwear. Others are vowing “nude protests” inside local terminals and some demonstrators say they will show up at security checkpoints with “lingerie models” in tow — perhaps creating an angry yet circus-like atmosphere among the milling crowds.

Babb’s motives are personal — he wants to spare his two young daughters, he said, from the unnecessary radiation of TSA scanning machines and from what he believes to be inappropriate touching by TSA workers. Many other travelers, meanwhile, argue that the new screening techniques are trampling their civil liberties. At OptOutDay.com, the site’s author calls Nov. 24 “the day ordinary citizens stand up for their rights ... and protest the federal government's desire to virtually strip us naked.”

Almost ready to say, "I'm proud to be a yank, again"
Fred

[Fredkc]

My fav in the video:
lass die hosen runter
(let your pants down)

Could be not so much what she said, but where.
Fred

[kinsuemei2]

Ok, again the reason why I say mass sterilization is the fact that if you have a very large person and you put them in this machine you can still see through then with the power of this X-Ray machine, now rule of thumb is you change the amount of radiation per amount of body fat right? well this machine seems to have a standard and this “Could” be a massive sterilization process to halt the ever expanding society, because I have never met a TSA worker that was also a radiologist.

Pregnant women, this is extremely harmful for, and I don’t recall them putting a lead coat over the family jewels in these machine's and that’s why I am figuring sterilization and I think this is a big topic and one that seriously needs addressing, because this is a stone’s throw away from naked walks to gas/shower houses in my honest opinion.

I for one don't operate my microwave oven with the door open, so why I would walk through one of these machines without leading up either. I know a quite a few radiologists that are asking a lot of real questions such as why is nobody worried that these machines are putting out background radiation of 16 mSv, in a one walk through, that’s actually a 5 year dose, and some of the Radiologists are very alarmed. For pregnant women that can still fly, background radiation, is a worry, whilst women are not in immediate danger of the natural amounts of radiation build up in the abdomen over time, these extra doses can causes issues to the development of the fetus a lot more earlier on than later.

[irishspirit]

Ron Paul did an excellent piece on this on the floor off congress.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d-N5adYM7Kw

[Ahkenaten]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40242420/ns/travel-news/

[DawgBone]

There may be an upside to these scanners:

We'll all get in a lot better shape ...

:--)

[Ahkenaten]

ha ha you can bet that the truly overweight and less than attractive amongst us will pause before purchasing an airline ticket! That is why we should all be required to fly naked..................only the beautiful and young will fly! Only joking.

[conk]

Searching old ladies in wheel chairs. Groping children. Taking off my shoes and peering into my shampoo bottle. yeah, I feel safer.....................vomit.

[Zillah]

Posted by irishspirit (here)
Ron Paul did an excellent piece on this on the floor off congress.

‎"They're treating us like cattle. Feed us, fatten us, and then eat us"

TSA = Total Sexual Assault !

[K626]

Only a matter of time before they are in the streets. Can you imagine?