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    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: Go to Space or Go Extinct - Choice for Humanity!

    This has been an active program for some time as there are many thousands of Planets in our Galaxy we haven't had a chance to rape and pillage yet...

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    Thanks John,
    I guess this is one idea...but I'm not sure anyone is going to welcome minds like ours out in space...what we're doing to our surface world won't be looked upon as a good thing...we first have to adjust our selves...learn to love one another and live together in harmony...attain respect for all life...honor the earth...
    I'd much rather spend on a craft, a big one, that could explore our oceans...and our polar regions...invite the inquisitive from all nations to participate in this endeavor...wow...that would be a step in the right direction, IMO...
    As an aside , I heard some blues being played by Chivy (youtube) a fine gifted left handed player (like myself, left handed, that is!)...impressive at such a young age...
    Thanks again for the post...even if I'm not sure I want to leave my planet...all ideas must be assessed . Blessings.
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    the moment we are able to leave our galaxy and go into deep space with people on board craft, we will be greeted by the federation of planets , we will fall under the galactic rules of space travel , and a watchful eye and a heavy hand will put the clamps on any agenda the ptb have in mind , count on it ...
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    I am pretty sure we have already ventured out and ran into several groups that fit your description. There is conflict all around us anyway and who know what part we play in it and to what extent.

    We do have a space fleet, there is of course a CABAL/NWO group that has Space Flight and Warfare capabilities that have been limited by other powers, they have been limited Star Wars era Cabal/NWO weapons that have been in orbit and ones the piggy back onto other payloads from time to time within 300 miles of Earth Orbit. Or so the yarn has been spun to me...


    Saw this video on UFO Digest: THIS Tech would be ancient compared to what the "NATO LIKE" Space Fleet of this Solar System has in use... This would be Star Wars Tech that is older than most of the guys serving in the military currently.


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    the moment we are able to leave our galaxy and go into deep space with people on board craft, we will be greeted by the federation of planets , we will fall under the galactic rules of space travel , and a watchful eye and a heavy hand will put the clamps on any agenda the ptb have in mind , count on it ...
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    Our ancestors and millions of humans even now have/are making big mess of our planet for sure.

    I like to think enlightened examples of humans (us) could live in space and even on other planets.
    You see I do love humanity and some of the beautiful things we have done deserve to live on,
    I'm worried that all is stuck on a little grain of dust floating in space (or so we have been lead to believe Doh) and there are much bigger grains of dust hurtling around that could take us all away, Bang Pufff!

    In the view of so called normal reality that is, in that fear/ no power view we are in a very fragile condition.

    Although it dose seem we are being shielded/looked over by some one/thing, maybe even our higher self's.
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
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    Good video .

    But how , how are we supposed to just jump to another technology when their is no manufacturing abilities to produce new vehicles ,mechanical powerplants . If we get off oil , man alot of economies would collapse overnight . Oil has made alot of great things , computers , plastics, superconductors , many many different types of materials . What exactly is going to replace all of that . The energy source of oil is one part I totally agree we need to get off of , but what about all the synthetic/secondary items oil produces .

    I am currently working on building a hydrogen generator to power my carburated 4500w generator , not easy I tell you !

    Again where is the industrial capacity to switch from oil o a different power source , It will take Decades , of engineering and money that people dont have to make the switch .

    And the venus project , MY GOD , that is way to Communist for me , everyone living in a hive like apartment complexes/cities , not for me . Not being able to own your proper possesions , again not for me . Dont get me wrong I am not a materialistic person , but many things I own are , collectors items , everything built by machines , we would become like the people in WALL-E , big fat and unhealthy .

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    Quote Posted by eric charles (here)
    Good video .

    But how , how are we supposed to just jump to another technology when their is no manufacturing abilities to produce new vehicles ,mechanical powerplants . If we get off oil , man alot of economies would collapse overnight . Oil has made alot of great things , computers , plastics, superconductors , many many different types of materials . What exactly is going to replace all of that . The energy source of oil is one part I totally agree we need to get off of , but what about all the synthetic/secondary items oil produces .

    I am currently working on building a hydrogen generator to power my carburated 4500w generator , not easy I tell you !

    Again where is the industrial capacity to switch from oil o a different power source , It will take Decades , of engineering and money that people dont have to make the switch .

    And the venus project , MY GOD , that is way to Communist for me , everyone living in a hive like apartment complexes/cities , not for me . Not being able to own your proper possesions , again not for me . Dont get me wrong I am not a materialistic person , but many things I own are , collectors items , everything built by machines , we would become like the people in WALL-E , big fat and unhealthy .
    The first step is ending the SUPPRESSION of technology. Evolution of power sources cannot and will not happen until TPTB are forced to stop suppressing free energy. it is that simple. Of course, manufacturing can't happen, when the idea can't even be allowed into fruition.

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    I saw the title and the phrase "I think we're going to like it here" in T Bone Burnett's voice was in my ears ..................

    [/YOUTUBE]

    Humans from Earth by T-Bone Burnett
    We come from a blue planet light-years away
    Where everything multiplies at an amazing rate
    We're out here in the universe buying real estate
    Hope we haven't gotten here too late

    [chorus:]
    We're humans from earth
    We're humans from earth
    You have nothing at all to fear
    I think we're gonna like it here

    We're looking for a planet with atmosphere
    Where the air is fresh and the water clear
    With lots of sun like you have here
    Three or four hundred days a year

    [chorus]

    Bought Manhatten for a string of beads
    Brought along some gadgets for you to see
    Heres a crazy little thing we call TV
    Do you have electricity?

    [chorus]

    I know we may seem pretty strange to you
    But we got know-how and a golden rule
    We're here to see manifest destiny through
    Ain't nothing we can't get used to

    We're humans from earth
    We're humans from earth

    From the movie by Wim Wendors long "Until the End of the World" with a great soundtrack

    part one
    [/YOUTUBE]

    part two
    [/YOUTUBE]
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    Quote Posted by eric charles (here)
    Good video .

    But how , how are we supposed to just jump to another technology when their is no manufacturing abilities to produce new vehicles ,mechanical powerplants . If we get off oil , man alot of economies would collapse overnight . Oil has made alot of great things , computers , plastics, superconductors , many many different types of materials . What exactly is going to replace all of that . The energy source of oil is one part I totally agree we need to get off of , but what about all the synthetic/secondary items oil produces .

    I am currently working on building a hydrogen generator to power my carburated 4500w generator , not easy I tell you !

    Again where is the industrial capacity to switch from oil o a different power source , It will take Decades , of engineering and money that people dont have to make the switch .

    And the venus project , MY GOD , that is way to Communist for me , everyone living in a hive like apartment complexes/cities , not for me . Not being able to own your proper possesions , again not for me . Dont get me wrong I am not a materialistic person , but many things I own are , collectors items , everything built by machines , we would become like the people in WALL-E , big fat and unhealthy .
    The first step is ending the SUPPRESSION of technology. Evolution of power sources cannot and will not happen until TPTB are forced to stop suppressing free energy. it is that simple. Of course, manufacturing can't happen, when the idea can't even be allowed into fruition.

    I know that Christian , what I am getting at is it will take two decades , and who has 40,000 to replace the engine of their car with a different powerplant ? Doing the whole switchover will cost enormous amounts of money .
    Some people have no knowledge of mechanical engineering and think its simply going to be done with the snap of a finger .
    It would have to trickle in over a long span of time , because lets say tomorrow BAM they outlaw gasoline and diesel engines , the economy crashes overnight my friend . Of course the savings over the long haul will be very eneficial to everybody , but ..............

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    Quote Posted by eric charles (here)
    Quote Posted by Sidney (here)
    Quote Posted by eric charles (here)
    Good video .

    But how , how are we supposed to just jump to another technology when their is no manufacturing abilities to produce new vehicles ,mechanical powerplants . If we get off oil , man alot of economies would collapse overnight . Oil has made alot of great things , computers , plastics, superconductors , many many different types of materials . What exactly is going to replace all of that . The energy source of oil is one part I totally agree we need to get off of , but what about all the synthetic/secondary items oil produces .

    I am currently working on building a hydrogen generator to power my carburated 4500w generator , not easy I tell you !

    Again where is the industrial capacity to switch from oil o a different power source , It will take Decades , of engineering and money that people dont have to make the switch .

    And the venus project , MY GOD , that is way to Communist for me , everyone living in a hive like apartment complexes/cities , not for me . Not being able to own your proper possesions , again not for me . Dont get me wrong I am not a materialistic person , but many things I own are , collectors items , everything built by machines , we would become like the people in WALL-E , big fat and unhealthy .
    The first step is ending the SUPPRESSION of technology. Evolution of power sources cannot and will not happen until TPTB are forced to stop suppressing free energy. it is that simple. Of course, manufacturing can't happen, when the idea can't even be allowed into fruition.

    I know that Christian , what I am getting at is it will take two decades , and who has 40,000 to replace the engine of their car with a different powerplant ? Doing the whole switchover will cost enormous amounts of money .
    Some people have no knowledge of mechanical engineering and think its simply going to be done with the snap of a finger .
    It would have to trickle in over a long span of time , because lets say tomorrow BAM they outlaw gasoline and diesel engines , the economy crashes overnight my friend . Of course the savings over the long haul will be very eneficial to everybody , but ..............
    Correction , it's Sidney, not Christian. I agree, it is a frustrating situation, and that is my point. This should have been taken care longgg before two decades ago , because IMO there has been free sustainable energy available for over 50 years.. I wish I had an immediate answer for you.

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    Quote Posted by Sidney (here)
    Quote Posted by eric charles (here)
    Quote Posted by Sidney (here)
    Quote Posted by eric charles (here)
    Good video .

    But how , how are we supposed to just jump to another technology when their is no manufacturing abilities to produce new vehicles ,mechanical powerplants . If we get off oil , man alot of economies would collapse overnight . Oil has made alot of great things , computers , plastics, superconductors , many many different types of materials . What exactly is going to replace all of that . The energy source of oil is one part I totally agree we need to get off of , but what about all the synthetic/secondary items oil produces .

    I am currently working on building a hydrogen generator to power my carburated 4500w generator , not easy I tell you !

    Again where is the industrial capacity to switch from oil o a different power source , It will take Decades , of engineering and money that people dont have to make the switch .

    And the venus project , MY GOD , that is way to Communist for me , everyone living in a hive like apartment complexes/cities , not for me . Not being able to own your proper possesions , again not for me . Dont get me wrong I am not a materialistic person , but many things I own are , collectors items , everything built by machines , we would become like the people in WALL-E , big fat and unhealthy .
    The first step is ending the SUPPRESSION of technology. Evolution of power sources cannot and will not happen until TPTB are forced to stop suppressing free energy. it is that simple. Of course, manufacturing can't happen, when the idea can't even be allowed into fruition.

    I know that Christian , what I am getting at is it will take two decades , and who has 40,000 to replace the engine of their car with a different powerplant ? Doing the whole switchover will cost enormous amounts of money .
    Some people have no knowledge of mechanical engineering and think its simply going to be done with the snap of a finger .
    It would have to trickle in over a long span of time , because lets say tomorrow BAM they outlaw gasoline and diesel engines , the economy crashes overnight my friend . Of course the savings over the long haul will be very eneficial to everybody , but ..............
    Correction , it's Sidney, not Christian. I agree, it is a frustrating situation, and that is my point. This should have been taken care longgg before two decades ago , because IMO there has been free sustainable energy available for over 50 years.. I wish I had an immediate answer for you.
    Sorry for confusing your name Sid. yes long ago it should have been done . It is very frustrating , becasue I am even able to produce hydrogen , very small amounts mind you , but I am working on it . Materials are VERY expensive , and design is very time consuming , I can produce enough to power a very small propane heater , maybe 5,000 btu/h . but It is dangerous , storing it is a very complicated ordeal . It is very similar to natural gas I suppose , but its still not free energy , it takes alot of power to make and all depending on your design , it can cost you more in electricity KW/h then you can produce . But the Japanese had this 60 years ago ...... Chevron bought the patents and buh bye it went

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    How many OTHER species in our Galaxy have had that same decision to make... as well as capability? If so I wonder what Fertile, Beautiful watery garden of EDEN they may have discovered... covered with savages... but possibly if blended correctly just as tasty as any of the other life forms and plant life on that blue marble on the outskirts of one of the arms of this Galaxy...

    Those savages being convinced of their own superior existence, raping their precious planet with greed, bkward technology and war. I guess the Aliens leaving their planet in desperation could hurry here and scheme with those savages... or simply look from afar as cosmic cycles make the decision for them... They can say this culture of savages had plenty of time to change, learn to live together... not hide technology from each other that would have allowed them to understand that their SOL is going through an "ANGRY SHIFT" and will begin to reach out far into its system striking other planets, leaving solar particle fields for their little blue planet to travel through... weakening its EM Field.

    Then a certain number of the savages will move below ground in "Shielded" bunkers knowing that after careful calculation a date, time... a kill shot will hit the planet of these savages... once the skies clear and the scorched earth cools off and the air is breathable the remaining savages will come out... telling them selves they were chosen, by blood line and religion.

    They begin to bury and burn the old world and then look up to the skies to see the ships descend, nervous the leaders approach each other and much like Columbus told the Natives... the Savages... The Aliens say "We Come in Peace", which the savages respond to "Welcome to Earth".

    Then comes the treaty then their offer to rebuild, and then ship after ship lands leaving the space fleet of the savages feeling inpatient and their blood line wondering if it was possibly reserved for a different purpose.


    An unlikely overall scenario of course, but many RV Sessions do show threats to earth being of meteors hitting water/oceans large objects in the system (Unknown, nibiru/brown dwarf/space ship/unrelated rogue planet from deep space captured etc... but the one constant is the SUN, going from a yellow to an "ANGRY ORANGE" spectrum shift, causing it to cast of its corona in massive waves, flares in ways never witnessed... then it equalizes and goes back into its 11 year cycle. Per RV and Intel Sources... All the other stuff was me making a fun story to make you think/FYI.

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    Internet is almost down right now. Have never experienced this before.

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    Default Re: Go to Space or Go Extinct - Choice for Humanity!

    Even if we were given a "giant spaceship(s)" to "go into space"

    We would probably end up trashing it, and killing each other for front row seats, just like what we are doing with the one we are currently on right now...
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    Nobody wants us in space as long as we have the demented we have running this planet. Furthermore, the demented we have only want themselves in space.

    Just finish listening to a video on Horus Ra thread, bummer, I think I will go do the week market instead while being shrunk to second dimension.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post704904

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    If the universe is infinite -- why would anyone care overmuch if humans colonized space? There is a difference between living somewhere and destroying the place.

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    Where da ship? I'm ready to right now. I just have to know the accomodations, food and healthcare are good. Get me off this crazy planet but if it's gonna be the same I'll just as well stay.
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    Quote Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
    If the universe is infinite -- why would anyone care overmuch if humans colonized space? There is a difference between living somewhere and destroying the place.
    Infinite pollution of the universe... what a concept... Made in Earth... lol
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