Here and Now...What's Happening?

[donk]

Knowing your own mind? Very tricky, if it somehow is never revealed to you how important that is

I'm finding too many people have no idea

The first step toward solving a problem is admitting their is a problem. After years of chipping away, various angles tried/presented, walking out the door repeatedly, completely disengaging, fully engaging, constant battle...I succeeded in getting someone admit their problem, before the oft too-devestating "rock bottom"...

...hopefully it sticks...we learn and grow and fix things...and the rest of the steps don't take that long. Hopefully it is all worth it. What better you got to do I guess, than love?

[ulli]

Posted by donk (here)
Knowing your own mind? Very tricky, if it somehow is never revealed to you how important that is

I'm finding too many people have no idea

The first step toward solving a problem is admitting their is a problem. After years of chipping away, various angles tried/presented, walking out the door repeatedly, completely disengaging, fully engaging, constant battle...I succeeded in getting someone admit their problem, before the oft too-devestating "rock bottom"...

...hopefully it sticks...we learn and grow and fix things...and the rest of the steps don't take that long. Hopefully it is all worth it. What better you got to do I guess, than love?

A lot of people agree that love is the way to go.
Yet they attract the same set of problems, over and over.
Then one day they discover that there is a pattern.
The most guaranteed way to attract people problems
is by thinking that other people are not quite there yet.

This type of thought only distracts. We are not given enough energy to change others to our expectation, only barely have enough to get to know ourselves, and even less to make behavioral changes.
However, once the tiniest mechanical tic is eradicated, then life changes automatically.
It therefore cannot be emphasized enough that the ONLY path is the path of self knowledge.
Only then can we do anything about the society we live in, and even then only by our own example.

[Carmody]

Still eating raspberry yogurt. Having one right now.

[Flash]

Me too, and every time i eat something with vanilla flavor, my lip goes up a bit with a tint of disgust right before. But habits are hard to die.

Told that to my daughter, she now has the same reaction, adding up however "mom, why did you tell that to me, keep some stuff secret please, ahhhhhh!Grrrrrr"

[donk]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by donk (here)
Knowing your own mind? Very tricky, if it somehow is never revealed to you how important that is

I'm finding too many people have no idea

The first step toward solving a problem is admitting their is a problem. After years of chipping away, various angles tried/presented, walking out the door repeatedly, completely disengaging, fully engaging, constant battle...I succeeded in getting someone admit their problem, before the oft too-devestating "rock bottom"...

...hopefully it sticks...we learn and grow and fix things...and the rest of the steps don't take that long. Hopefully it is all worth it. What better you got to do I guess, than love?

A lot of people agree that love is the way to go.
Yet they attract the same set of problems, over and over.
Then one day they discover that there is a pattern.
The most guaranteed way to attract people problems
is by thinking that other people are not quite there yet.

This type of thought only distracts. We are not given enough energy to change others to our expectation, only barely have enough to get to know ourselves, and even less to make behavioral changes.
However, once the tiniest mechanical tic is eradicated, then life changes automatically.
It therefore cannot be emphasized enough that the ONLY path is the path of self knowledge.
Only then can we do anything about the society we live in, and even then only by our own example.

Agreed. My mantra has been "live by example". I have become a teacher, of sorts, the best I can. The only lessons I can think that I feel right about and are important enough to teach (to everyone) are:

Know thyself.
Love is always the answer.

Millions of different ways to say it. Even more ways to live it. I have served myself in the way (and sometimes even the words) I have shared...and that seems to serves others as well.

Keeping it simple in a reality that piles on complexity after distracting complexity is not easy....I love when johnf said once something like "just cuz it's simple doesn't make it easy". (heh, guess if it were easy, it probably wouldn't be worth it...or at least not be very interesting )

[ulli]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Still eating raspberry yogurt. Having one right now.

Wow, Carmody, the beaver-butt-back-story is so far back now
that none of our readers here would have a clue as to what you could be saying.

But as far as insider jokes goes...this one is as good as it gets. Thanks.

[jiminii]

Posted by donk (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by donk (here)
Knowing your own mind? Very tricky, if it somehow is never revealed to you how important that is

I'm finding too many people have no idea

The first step toward solving a problem is admitting their is a problem. After years of chipping away, various angles tried/presented, walking out the door repeatedly, completely disengaging, fully engaging, constant battle...I succeeded in getting someone admit their problem, before the oft too-devestating "rock bottom"...

...hopefully it sticks...we learn and grow and fix things...and the rest of the steps don't take that long. Hopefully it is all worth it. What better you got to do I guess, than love?

A lot of people agree that love is the way to go.
Yet they attract the same set of problems, over and over.
Then one day they discover that there is a pattern.
The most guaranteed way to attract people problems
is by thinking that other people are not quite there yet.

This type of thought only distracts. We are not given enough energy to change others to our expectation, only barely have enough to get to know ourselves, and even less to make behavioral changes.
However, once the tiniest mechanical tic is eradicated, then life changes automatically.
It therefore cannot be emphasized enough that the ONLY path is the path of self knowledge.
Only then can we do anything about the society we live in, and even then only by our own example.

Agreed. My mantra has been "live by example". I have become a teacher, of sorts, the best I can. The only lessons I can think that I feel right about and are important enough to teach (to everyone) are:

Know thyself.
Love is always the answer.

Millions of different ways to say it. Even more ways to live it. I have served myself in the way (and sometimes even the words) I have shared...and that seems to serves others as well.

Keeping it simple in a reality that piles on complexity after distracting complexity is not easy....I love when johnf said once something like "just cuz it's simple doesn't make it easy". (heh, guess if it were easy, it probably wouldn't be worth it...or at least not be very interesting )

I gave up on love .... too many definitions ... and to much misemotions

I changed to "like" ... and it works for me ... I can like people more than I can love them .... and I feel it is a much higher level ... because ... it leaves out a lot of connotations

jim

[eaglespirit]

Like! Like! Like! : ) : ) : )

[ulli]

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by donk (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by donk (here)
Knowing your own mind? Very tricky, if it somehow is never revealed to you how important that is

I'm finding too many people have no idea

The first step toward solving a problem is admitting their is a problem. After years of chipping away, various angles tried/presented, walking out the door repeatedly, completely disengaging, fully engaging, constant battle...I succeeded in getting someone admit their problem, before the oft too-devestating "rock bottom"...

...hopefully it sticks...we learn and grow and fix things...and the rest of the steps don't take that long. Hopefully it is all worth it. What better you got to do I guess, than love?

A lot of people agree that love is the way to go.
Yet they attract the same set of problems, over and over.
Then one day they discover that there is a pattern.
The most guaranteed way to attract people problems
is by thinking that other people are not quite there yet.

This type of thought only distracts. We are not given enough energy to change others to our expectation, only barely have enough to get to know ourselves, and even less to make behavioral changes.
However, once the tiniest mechanical tic is eradicated, then life changes automatically.
It therefore cannot be emphasized enough that the ONLY path is the path of self knowledge.
Only then can we do anything about the society we live in, and even then only by our own example.

Agreed. My mantra has been "live by example". I have become a teacher, of sorts, the best I can. The only lessons I can think that I feel right about and are important enough to teach (to everyone) are:

Know thyself.
Love is always the answer.

Millions of different ways to say it. Even more ways to live it. I have served myself in the way (and sometimes even the words) I have shared...and that seems to serves others as well.

Keeping it simple in a reality that piles on complexity after distracting complexity is not easy....I love when johnf said once something like "just cuz it's simple doesn't make it easy". (heh, guess if it were easy, it probably wouldn't be worth it...or at least not be very interesting )

I gave up on love .... too many definitions ... and to much misemotions

I changed to "like" ... and it works for me ... I can like people more than I can love them .... and I feel it is a much higher level ... because ... it leaves out a lot of connotations

jim

I like like, too. Dislike is not as extreme an opposite as hate is to love.
And I like friendship more than passion, as well. No burn outs.

Anyway, Jim, where have you been, my friend?
Can you communicate with the dead?
I so want to hear from my friend Simon, who died a week ago....

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Posted by eaglespirit (here)
Like! Like! Like! : ) : ) : )

oMG, eagle, I dooo loove yoouuuu.
Haha, lol.

[araucaria]

Posted by Calz (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Now, who is the one that knows their own mind?

Uh oh. I was thinking more in terms of small is beautiful

[donk]

I don't like a lot of people I love. Or try to, anyway. Love doesn't apply "like" to me, it implies "I accept"...to me it is TRUTH...which ain't always pretty

[ulli]

Posted by donk (here)
I don't like a lot of people I love. Or try to, anyway. Love doesn't apply "like" to me, it implies "I accept"...to me it is TRUTH...which ain't always pretty

Hmm...interrresting!
I wouldn't want to be loved by someone who doesn't like me.
Actually, that would creep me out.

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Still eating raspberry yogurt. Having one right now.

I was *just* telling my new employee about the wonders of castoreum, only to load the thread to find this first unread post.

Universe is as Universe does.

[araucaria]

Posted by ulli (here)

Anyway, Jim, where have you been, my friend?
Can you communicate with the dead?
I so want to hear from my friend Simon, who died a week ago....

Apart from making sure he's all right, you could ask him what happened to him (who did it).

[araucaria]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by donk (here)
I don't like a lot of people I love. Or try to, anyway. Love doesn't apply "like" to me, it implies "I accept"...to me it is TRUTH...which ain't always pretty

Hmm...interrresting!
I wouldn't want to be loved by someone who doesn't like me.
Actually, that would creep me out.

Try turning this round. You don't have to like everyone, but you love your neighbour. I think Jim is saying the same thing by reversing his use of the two words

[ulli]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Anyway, Jim, where have you been, my friend?
Can you communicate with the dead?
I so want to hear from my friend Simon, who died a week ago....

Apart from making sure he's all right, you could ask him what happened to him (who did it).

Exactly. By a strange coincidence I ended up on a website last night about the fashion designer Ossie Clark.
Like Simon, he had studied at the Royal College of Art, under David Hockney.
Ossie once came to see me while he was in Barbados as I had been friends with his former wife, Celia Birtwell,
who had designed all his fabrics when he was still going strong. So they also had that Barbados connection, as well as both knew me.
Anyway, Ossie ended up penniless,
living in a council flat, when he was murdered by a male lover.

Since I had been looking for someone else who was also featured on that website about Ossie, and not been looking for Ossie at all, I took it as a sign.
But I'm not sure. My own suspicion could have manifested it all, as ALL beliefs are confirmed by life,
the true as well as the false.
Which is the reason life can be so tricky and confusing.
( Oops, I shouldn't have said that! Let me correct it quickly....
life is We-ONE-derfulllllllllll!!!!!!!!)

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Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by donk (here)
I don't like a lot of people I love. Or try to, anyway. Love doesn't apply "like" to me, it implies "I accept"...to me it is TRUTH...which ain't always pretty

Hmm...interrresting!
I wouldn't want to be loved by someone who doesn't like me.
Actually, that would creep me out.

Try turning this round. You don't have to like everyone, but you love your neighbour. I think Jim is saying the same thing by reversing his use of the two words

Maybe you are right. But then again, what with all those translations...
how do we know that Jesus didn't say and mean "like" instead of "love".

[CD7]

We are One Gynormous iceberg underwater with MANY bumps revealing themselves on the surface....All these bumps are connected to the same source. It is funny when one views this to think of how we do not like ourselves or careless about another---one bump over the other... hehehe

and Oh yes one of the "royal" bumps was birthed!!!! YIP PEE another hu-man was conceived--so were a lot of other bumps!!!! OR one of our "special" bumps died today....OH Gawd

[ulli]

Posted by REILLY (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Still eating raspberry yogurt. Having one right now.

I was *just* telling my new employee about the wonders of castoreum, only to load the thread to find this first unread post.

Universe is as Universe does.

Go on Carmody, thank REILLY, now that we found the source of your inspiration.
Headscratching here and now....


And would someone please tell me how I ended up thinking of humpback whales?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ers-eaten.html

[Carmody]

Posted by donk (here)
Knowing your own mind? Very tricky, if it somehow is never revealed to you how important that is

I'm finding too many people have no idea

The first step toward solving a problem is admitting their is a problem. After years of chipping away, various angles tried/presented, walking out the door repeatedly, completely disengaging, fully engaging, constant battle...I succeeded in getting someone admit their problem, before the oft too-devestating "rock bottom"...

...hopefully it sticks...we learn and grow and fix things...and the rest of the steps don't take that long. Hopefully it is all worth it. What better you got to do I guess, than love?

Witness, yes. Hold them long enough to decipher them.. let them go... seek detachment.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_WjeWsiujmU

[ulli]

Posted by CD7 (here)
We are One Gynormous iceberg underwater with MANY bumps revealing themselves on the surface....All these bumps are connected to the same source. It is funny when one views this to think of how we do not like ourselves or careless about another---one bump over the other... hehehe

and Oh yes one of the "royal" bumps was birthed!!!! YIP PEE another hu-man was conceived--so were a lot of other bumps!!!! OR one of our "special" bumps died today....OH Gawd

OK, Thank you CD7.

The humpback whale image came from your mind.
Doing great here, everyone.
Keep them coming.....