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    Hi:

    I will be out of pocket for a few days. I have been interacting with people non-publicly quite a bit during my sabbatical, and need to reiterate what my intent is. I think that I have made my goal pretty clear: Heaven on Earth, or at least have fun trying to get there.

    My choir idea may help, and it can’t hurt, although it seems that I need to continually reinforce the Level 12 idea, because newbies invariably want to play the Level 10 game:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

    These days, people are constantly trying to entice or drag me into Levels 7 or 10, with a little 9 and 11 thrown in there sometimes. I am continually contacted by people who want to tell their friends and family about FE and abundance, or speak publicly about it, and so on. Part of me is amazed that almost nobody gets it, but in my quiet moments I see that they are all trapped in their paradigm. The Fifth Epochal Event will dwarf everything that came before it, and only a radical approach has a prayer.

    Those Level 10 methods won’t work, and are very risky. If I can’t do it, then newbies definitely can’t. Dennis’s own in-laws saw him as a shiftless bum who never got a real job. Brian O’s colleagues ostracized him, and the more radical he got (and the closer to the truth), the greater the isolation. One of Brian’s closest family members was a Rush Limbaugh fan, which is as unreachable as they come. My parents disowned me when I was at my most heroic, when the night was the darkest. The usual approaches have been tried countless times, by the best of the best. FE has to come via something other than the same old, same old. The old skins will not hold the new wine.

    When I return, I will be getting more specific on what it will take to be in the choir. As I have stated many times, Ilie is doing exactly what I am looking for, but even Ilie tries to talk up those around him, and is beginning to realize its futility. It is OK that he has done that, but the sooner people get past those early-stage pitfalls:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

    the sooner that they may become productive enough so that I try to recruit them into the choir.

    While the scientifically-trained will be able to readily understand most of my upcoming essay, they also are not my target audience, as they are the most stuck Level 3s:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

    and won’t be able to relinquish their ideologies before somebody delivers FE to their homes. That is just how it is. If Brian could not make any headway with them:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions

    there is nobody else that I know of who can. Again, those whom I am looking for will not be found in any one organization, movement, religion, nation, etc., etc. Their primary qualification will be that they care, which by definition will make them a needle in a haystack:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    and if they really care, they are going to be willing to relinquish what they think they know. Then we will be getting somewhere.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I am not quite out of pocket yet, and have a little time. Here is what the choir will be singing about:


    1. How the world works, centered on the energy issue. It will have a historical and scientific/technical thrust to it. This will cover the entire journey of life on Earth and the human journey, which is the thrust of the essay that I am working on. It will cover humanity’s epochal events in particular (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post693557). The outline of it can be seen in the several months that I wrote about it (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post518761).

    2. As I have written plenty about, there were cognitive, social, and political changes that came with each epochal event. In fact, some kind of cognitive and social change initiated the event (which was technical in nature, and each event was more technically sophisticated than the previous one, and tapped another order of magnitude(s) of energy consumption), but it was by a small group of people. The event was economic at its root, because it was about energy at its root. The event in turn spread to humanity, or at least some fraction of it, and humanity in turn had tremendous economic, cognitive, social, and political changes. The choir will explore those dynamics.

    3. The choir will explore what the FE epoch can look like, that Heaven on Earth stuff (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced).

    4. The choir will enter into a technical discussion. Newbies nearly always want to cut to the chase about here and get blueprints to build an FE machine in their garages. That is a huge delusion that must be set aside, and people in the choir will have gotten past that delusion. There will be discussions of FE physics, devices that worked, what it takes to get something market-ready, and the like.

    5. The fate of FE inventors, how the national security state works, how Godzilla operates when taking out FE inventors, promoters, and businessmen. As you can see, this is a critical yet minor aspect of the situation. Members of the choir will acknowledge those dynamics, but they also won’t obsess about them.

    6. The choir will explore what kind of FE effort might have a chance. Indeed, the choir is intended to catalyze such an effort.


    That is what the choir will be focusing on. Obviously, there is a lot there. There are many people, at Avalon and elsewhere, who want to be in the choir, but they don’t really know the song and can’t hit the notes. Being in the choir is about hitting the notes, especially at the beginning. Being in the choir is about a level of mastery of the song, and that will take hard work. There will be nothing easy about it.

    First and foremost, a choir member will operate from the heart. That loving heart will have transformed a person’s thinking from being a victim to being a creator. They will acknowledge Godzilla and the other predators, but will not overly focus on them. They will understand that the greatest barrier to manifesting FE for public consumption is humanity’s self-serving inertia and its semi-sentient allegiance to scarcity-based ideologies, not what Godzilla does.

    Secondly, the choir member will think in comprehensive terms. My essay is intended to help people begin to think that way, and frankly, unless a person was already heading in that direction, he/she may not be able to get there. Scientific training can be highly helpful, but the person will have also escaped the dogmatic aspects of the scientific establishment, and there are many. As Fuller said, scientists are naïve (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#naive), and shedding that naïveté will be of critical importance in being a member of the choir. I have seen naïve and victim-oriented responses to the FE conundrum hundreds of times (was it thousands?) more often than I have seen enlightened, thoughtful ones. I am really looking for needles in haystacks.

    The choir member will have mastered the material, or be well on the way to getting there. I have sketched things to do, for people to begin to think comprehensively:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

    Importantly, a choir member will get past doubt and denial about FE and its organized suppression. I have presented a great deal that people can explore, to get beyond all the crazed, naïve, and dishonest reactions and debate out there.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post514878

    But here is the hard part for aspirants for the choir: they have to get past the notion that unless they can have an FE device a delivered to their homes, that they are not sure about that FE stuff. It is life-risking to get meaningful experience in the FE field, and I don’t recommend it to anybody, but a person in the choir will somehow have to get past their doubt. Those who join the choir will get some “inside information,” but it will still fall short of getting in the room with a working FE device. I have been in the room with FE prototypes, and you can get a video of Sparky’s device in operation:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sparky

    or Troy Reed’s, or those of other FE inventors. But I am not sure how important it is to see. If you see Sparky’s video, you will also see one of the reasons why somebody like Sparky did not have a prayer. Several times, flashing on the screen was something like “propriety technology.” Sparky played the “this is mine” game, naively tried to work with the big energy institutions (to the extent of mailing them working prototypes), while keeping it secret how he did it, and so on. He was kind of a quintessential example of how an FE inventor should not go about it, although many have played the same games. Even more naïve is applying for patents. Aspirants for the choir need to immerse themselves in the reality of the milieu for long enough so that they understand. This will be one of the hardest things to do, because there is no teacher like experience. I have a lot of experience in the field, and getting people over that hump will be one of my primary roles.

    As I have stated many times, choir members will be real people, with real names and faces, not hiding behind pseudonyms and avatars. The world is not going to be changed by “anonymous.”

    That is all for now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I was taking the attached pictures during the past several days. Somebody has to do it.

    I was talking with a teenager recently who approached me on Wade’s World. Over the years, what Fuller said seems to be true, in that young people’s thinking is usually not as ossified as those who are older, and my ideas are not difficult for them to grasp. Sometimes, I am surprised at how easily they pick it up and even extend my thought lines. I don’t think that most of my ideas and information is intellectually all that challenging – it just flies in the face of the scarcity-based indoctrination that everybody has swallowed and “knows.” Young people don’t have to shed as much baggage as older ones do. Of course, their parents rarely like my “subversive” message, and I don’t want to get burned at the stake.

    Those who seem to understand the best are old scientists and academics (over sixty) who have been around the block a few times and have explored alternatives, often professionally, young people who have not been completely brainwashed yet, and others who care and have had some kind of awakening experience, usually related to their level of caring.

    Everybody else is a tough nut, and I don’t waste my time trying to change their thinking. The risk is high, and the reward usually very low, if any at all. They will begin to understand when FE is delivered to their homes.

    Looking for those needles in haystacks…

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Briefly, I saw Elysium yesterday. The reviews were middling, but I had “professional” reasons for watching it. As with Blade Runner and other dystopian flicks, depicting a future hellish Earth features LA as its example city. I wonder why.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post406928

    It had an orbiting paradise (similar to what Brian O wrote about http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#oneill), as Earth had been rendered a hellhole. But “paradise” was reserved for the rich, like the penthouse in that nightmare world of Roads’s:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672115

    That show was the epitome of the scarcity paradigm. My friend who wants to make a Hollywood movie more like this world:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672748

    has his work cut out for him. Would Heaven on Earth sell? As my friend said, Hollywood is the realm of unconsciousness, as I suppose it is everywhere, but Hollywood’s unconsciousness gets broadcasted to the world, helping to reinforce the paradigm by using the world’s most powerful medium. We will see what I can get going using this new technology to find those needles.

    The more that I work on my essay and think about it, the more paradigmatic I plan to make it. In a way, it will be like this:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

    but those last four revolutions will explicitly be humanity’s four epochal revolutions (Wrangham's Cooking Hypothesis keeps looking stronger http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...ution-question), with the potential fifth being the FE Revolution. There is going to be plenty on the social/technical/cognitive changes that initiated each shift, and what resulted from each one (and what can result from the FE Revolution). Again, I am trying to get my readers to think paradigmatically. Once they can do that, and can see how it all hinges on the energy situation, then we will be getting somewhere. If enough people can keep their eye on the ball and refrain from rushing down the many rabbit holes and pitfalls that await the newbies:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

    maybe we can get a ball rolling.

    Nearly every newbie wants to find allies amongst their family, friends, and colleagues, and wants to look for the rich angel or existing group that can help, as they seek the quick and easy way to FE and abundance. I even see newbies approaching the Pentagon – the very heart of darkness – thinking that those people will help. Those delusions, some of them potentially fatal, need to be shed as soon as possible. There is no group on Earth today with the right stuff. Scientists and academics are trapped by their “learning” and the soft berths that their positions afford them. No corporation on Earth would dare defy Godzilla, wittingly or otherwise. They are easily kept in line, with greed being the overriding reason for their existence. People applying for patents and trying to raise money via capitalistic methods are fools, almost invariably driven by their egos, trying to become rich and famous. Only fools such as Dennis, who consider their lives forfeit before they even start, have any business even trying those routes, and the FE Gang is about 0-for-50,000 so far, with nothing in sight that looks remotely promising. I only know of one person like this:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    and if he can’t get it done, I don’t know of anybody else on the planet with a prayer via that route. The only barrier to the heart-centered-sentience approach is finding enough people with the right stuff who can just imagine abundance. The imagination is infinitely more powerful than is imagined today, but the drumbeat of scarcity is the oldest “song” on the planet, and almost nobody today can even hear the abundance song, much less learn to sing it. But if an abundance choir can be formed, it will be a horse of a different color.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I recently finished Joachim Radkau’s Nature and Power, which is considered one of the best summaries of the history of humanity’s relationship with the environment. It can be a very useful book, but it is also interesting to see similar subjects treated by historians, economists, and scientists. Historians and economists can tend to focus on their specialized awareness, and miss important dynamics. But, as I have found is often the case, when I dive into works by those professionals, they are looking at the issue with their professional expertise, and the insight that I was hoping to find in their work is not there. To be fair, specialists often put big caveats in their works, stating that they were only exploring one aspect of the dynamic. I cannot really get on a scholar’s case when he writes an apple book, and I was looking for an orange book.

    Multidisciplinary works have proven to be my favorite, as they do not get pigeonholed into the specialized perspective, and provide insights that specialized works do not. Even then, when dealing with just the facts, the contrast can be striking between two different scholars' treatment of the same subject, on the same facts. Radkau states that the evidence is thin that a wood shortage in the 1700s spurred England to begin using coal in industry, especially for ironworks. But in John Perlin’s A Forest Journey, he gives a great deal of detail, from contemporary sources, at how Great Britain became increasingly denuded of wood, and wood prices kept rising, and when Darby learned to produce coke:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Darby_I

    his forge was in a town with about the highest wood costs in England. When coal-forged iron was made feasible by making coal into coke (baking out the impurities), it was one of the key steps in the Industrial Revolution:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post655010

    Radkau stressed that tree farms to supply the iron industry were plentiful in England when coal was used for smelting, but the fact is that before Darby, England was far from self-sufficient in iron production, importing a great deal from Sweden, with its plentiful forests. England’s lack of wood was widely acknowledged as the reason why England could not produce enough iron for its nascent industries. Darby’s breakthrough was so epochal that, for the first time ever, the public could buy affordable cast ironware, such as pots, kettles, and stoves.

    So, where industrialization began, in England, the trees were scarce and the price of wood was high, so high that England was not sufficient in its iron production. Adopting the plentiful and local coal not only solved the wood problem for smelting iron, but it also became the fuel that drove the Industrial Revolution. As I have written, wind and water power were competitive with coal until well into the 19th century, but coal was not dependent on the weather bringing wind and water power, and it left them far, far behind by the end of the 19th century. Radkau’s emphasis on the “sustainability” of forests in pre-industrial England I think is a bit misleading. If you just think about the energy flows, and the many demands put on the land’s “solar income,” it becomes obvious that England was increasingly denuded and ecologically impoverished. Bears and wolves had been driven to extinction on the British Isles by that time, as were other animals.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/timeline.htm#bear

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/timeline.htm#wolf1

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/timeline.htm#wolf2

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/timeline.htm#wolf3

    Walruses lived on the Thames as late as 1456. The English invaded and raped Ireland in the 1500s, to get its forests to build its navy,

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post666395

    and was soon laying claim to New England’s trees for its navy:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post602338

    I think that Radkau’s downplaying the denuding of England is one of the hazards that historians can run into. And as I have made clear for a long time, “sustainable” is a far cry from abundant:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#sustainable

    Best,

    Wade

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    Quote Only fools such as Dennis, who consider their lives forfeit before they even start, have any business even trying those routes, and the FE Gang is about 0-for-50,000 so far, with nothing in sight that looks remotely promising. I only know of one person like this:
    I found one FE technology and have seen multiple prototypes that uses the same principal in Nature. New laws of motion that fixes the hidden flaw of Newton's laws make it theoretically possible. A Russian scientists discovered it by accident few decades ago. He developed a new theory of motion and had tried to publish it through peer journal but guess what happened to him. He couldn't find a publisher that prints paperback yet.

    I consider fuel burning technologies are primitive including the cold fusion. They all depends on static energy which leads to depletion one day.
    Real FE technology harnesses dynamic energy in Nature. To do it one only need to create condition of harmonic oscillating system. Nicola Tesla did it by electromagnetic devices. Few inventors came up with similar designs. Some others developed mechanical devices that harness kinetic energy of moving matter.

    Any harmonic oscillating system has a function of time vs energy. This is one secret of FE technologies I figured out. How simple is that?
    An energy generating system pulses under specific parameter. It contracts and expands and during its transition the system produces usable energy for humans. Extracting too much will stops the system. Accelerating pulse [frequency] too fast will explode the system also. Vortex movement is another example of energy generating phenomenon in Nature. Perfect circle can't do it.

    Is this too far fetched? I guess to whom blindly believes in our Universe is a close system. Most mainstream scientists and professionals are belong to this stupid group.

    Considering time is indicator of change of state, it means awareness, which leads to intelligence eventually. Like the organic life form reacts against the change of surrounding environment, FE device reacts to energy fluctuation of the system.
    For free society!

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    Hi Hughe:

    Yes, the oscillating “ether” is where the action seems to be. Some do it with rotating magnets, such as Adam T. and Troy Reed, and others did it with solid state magnets like Sparky Sweet did. If Bohm and others are right, there is more available energy in my fingertip than humanity could ever use.

    But that is the easy part. The problem is humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression. The efforts have been defeated 100% of the time, and none have ever gotten remotely close to being market-ready. The closer that somebody gets to the market, the greater the organized suppression, as well as greed, delusions of grandeur, and the like rearing their heads amongst the aspirants.

    More than once, Dennis was putting energy-saving technology on the market, stuff that was far short of FE, and they pulled out the bazookas. When one of the world’s most famous “conspiratorial” names calls you at home, asking you what the hell you think you are doing (as you run a full-page ad in a national newspaper), the billy club is coming close behind the call:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post694872

    Forget lone inventors – efforts that are far short of FE, with thousands of people involved, have been easily wiped out by the organized suppression. Nobody has ever come close to cracking the nut, and the inventor/businessman route is the most easily defeated.

    Best,

    Wade

    As an addendum, I am literally bombarded with inventor-of-the-hour stuff. When Dennis went to Washington D.C. with his 100 MPG technology, he was about the thousandth person to market high MPG technology, or beseech Detroit, the DOE, etc.:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carb1

    It is very well trodden ground, and the only thing that was different about Dennis’s attempt was his Indiana Jones, P.T. Barnum style. If Dennis could not make a dent going that route, nobody else can, either. But just yesterday, I was sent an email by a longtime observer of the FE and alternative energy fields. The guy has written up literally scores of suppression stories, even written about Dennis, so he knows how the suppression works. The email I received yesterday was a big one, with several photos, about a garage tinkerer who came up with a high MPG carburetor! Imagine that. Even observers of the FE field for forty years can still be stuck in the arrested development of thinking that tinkerers have a prayer. It really kind of boggles my mind that people keep on the same, dogged path, or cheer it along, thinking that it has a prayer. If 50K attempts have already failed, in fatal fashion often enough, what the hell does the new inventor/tinkerer of the hour have in his magic bag that will see him sail to the finish line? Why can’t people begin to think beyond that dead end? It calls to mind that definition of insanity, where the same thing is tried over and over, expecting a different outcome each time.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wade Frazier: "Why can’t people begin to think beyond that dead end? It calls to mind that definition of insanity, where the same thing is tried over and over, expecting a different outcome each time."
    Hi Wade,

    It requires a zoom out, and one that is done pretty far out of any situation. The FE movement on earth is as much a 'situation' as everything else. When most of us are emotionally and physically invested with any one thing, we find it rather difficult to get a bird's eye view perspective at the same time or the comprehensive pesrpective you yourself are advocating with your work (apparently with a good reason).
    There are people who are naturally 'zoomed out' and they are called - observers, often times an observer and a participant are two differents rolles and there are a lot more participants then observers. For your plan of grand scheme both rolles are required and needed to be excercised simultaneously, you have this kind of character yourself, but many are homing on the 'zoom in' way of seeing things when the zoom in/out is what is needed. Hope that made some sense. Limor
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    Thanks Limor:

    Probably my most pertinent qualification for what I am doing is that I have both observed the battle and been in it. It gave me insight that amounted to, “Well, this won’t work!”

    Back in the 1980s, as we were being eviscerated in Ventura:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

    I got a clear hint that the inventor/businessman’s path to FE would likely not work, and during my second stint with Dennis in 1996-1997, I became convinced of it. But Dennis kept at it with a persistence that is hard to believe, to only admit to me, when I saw him recently, that the inventor/businessman’s path will likely not work, at least in the USA (and I highly doubt that it will work anywhere on Earth).

    The writer of that carburetor email that I recently received has largely been in the observer mode for forty years, and has really never had the bullets whiz over his head. I can easily understand that somebody like Dennis would be slow to grasp that the battle plan won’t work, as he constantly dodges bullets and tries to scale the ramparts. But it has been harder for me to grasp why observers, who have seen every battle for the entirety of history turn out the same way, with the predators prevailing, would never begin to suspect that the entire inventor/businessman’s route is doomed. Or, at least, when the thousandth tinkerer came up with a high MPG carburetor, that the long-time observer would not yell, “This is it!”

    I understand gung-ho newbies wanting to go play the Level 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11 games:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

    but for long-time observers of the milieu to be stuck in those Levels is harder for me to fathom. Maybe they need some experience on the battlefield, but it is not easy to survive it. Getting experience in the FE field is like trying to have an NDE: you may not survive the experience, to tell us all how it went.

    I’ll definitely agree that having both the macro and micro views are essential, and switching between them is not easy. People usually get lost in the weeds or go floating off into space.

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    Hi again Wade, The way I understand it, a true observer is not necessarily someone on the out watching in, it may requires more. I do not know your email correspondent who understands how the FE supression really works so it might not be relevent to him, but even a spectator in a football field which is not playing himself can be energetically invested in the game system, he may be able to see that the soccer referee is faking it and the games scores are pre-sold, but he will keep watching despite the malfunctions. The onion ring has many layers, and as there are many positions on the field, so does observers has their own azimuth, an observer can still be focused on what's going on in there. It is the comprehensive observer : ) that understands that there is a real need to completely disconnect from the game, that the referee will never improve his ways, that the coach and the players will continue to receive benefits on the side and that the results of the game will be continued to be determind in advance

    You may just have to look for people with a Large Azimuth, but who can understand the game, the visionary aspect usually takes care of that. Limor

    *By Azimuth I more or less mean - a certain range of vision
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    Hi Limor:

    I am not sure what Azimut means, but I think I get the drift. Yes, the analogy of being a participant and a spectator in a rigged game works, too. Yes, the game is rigged, in ways that almost nobody who plays can even imagine. To your analogy, I still think that the goal can get scored, but not by playing on a rigged playing field, with bogus rules, and bribed officials and players. Also, the goal is not even understood very well, or maybe a better way to say it is that almost everybody is shooting at a different goal (the goal of serving each person’s self-interest), while the goal that we need to all be shooting for (the goal of serving everybody’s interest) is not really aimed for. If it is a side-effect of the primary goal, then it is convenient, but it is not really the goal of the players, the officials, or even the observers.

    The game analogy can be a good one, and I use it often enough. For instance, in today’s crony capitalism, the game is not really even played anymore, but the scoreboard is rigged to provide whatever is needed to “win.”

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    Limor, Wade,

    How do you explain people who "play" Lotto? It is same repetition of filling coupons in hope "this time it will work". I was one of those persons. Played last time in ~2005. Have even written a software to "help predict" the numbers Can remember that "sweet rush" before number anouncement. And the moment after it turning into anger and depression. I personnaly know somobody i helped get out of debt because of Lotto. I am glad i am past this madness. In Poland it is controlled by the gov. Profits go to support "sport" Particularly soccer...

    But how do you explain this repetition? Maybe it is the same reason behind inventor path to FE? Something in the indoctrination programming?
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    Hi Robert:

    You are writing of what is called “intermittent reinforcement” in psychological circles. Obviously, with Lotto, that reinforcement in the form of a jackpot comes for only one in millions of players. What is doubly crazy about Lotto is that nearly all of the “winners” are back to being broke in a few years as they piss it all away, as their “friends” and family all become parasites, and the like. It is a bizarre form of faux abundance in a world of desperate scarcity.

    Lotto is also called a “poor tax” or an “intelligence tax” around here. In Orwell’s 1984, he wrote of the lottery and how only the “proles” played it. Alcohol, porn, and the lottery are what kept the proles doped up so they could trudge off to work the next day. Orwell wrote of how the most amazing feats of memory and other mental abilities was displayed for the lottery (if he wrote 1984 today, I am sure that he would also write about sophisticated programs to “predict” the numbers ), which was the only time that the proles evidenced any “sentience” in the slightest.

    A la Orwell, Chomsky has noted that American men evidence great intelligence when talking about sports and other meaningless endeavors, while they cannot muster any sentience at all when talking about obvious and important issues (such as indefensibly invading Iraq and killing millions of people as we steal their resources).

    On inventors and FE, yes, you may be on to something there. Almost all inventors do it to get rich and famous – a form of the lottery. FE would be the biggest lottery ticket of all time, obviously:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

    But that long-time observer who cheers on the latest inventor does not seem to be motivated by greed, etc. I think that it is just a situation of being stuck in the paradigm. In the past generation, “think outside the box” has come into vogue, which is just another way of saying thinking beyond the paradigm. IMO, people need some kind of radicalizing experience in order to break out of their conditioning. I encounter FE “enthusiasts” all the time, and for them, FE is a kind of hobby or lottery, and they are stuck in the scarcity paradigm (which is largely why they advocate Levels 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11). FE means the end of the world as we know it, and almost nobody can really go there, and I mean really go there. As I have stated many times, we can’t get to abundance by dragging our scarcity-based baggage with us:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    The biggest paradigm shift of all time will be the one from scarcity to abundance.

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    Hi Robert,

    Only my thoughts, It sure does gets to the realm of psychology, but it also touches energy (of the subtle kind). What is a rush of adrenaline if not a flactuation of energy in the body. The other important components in gambling are hope, mainly this absurd hope that the painted pieces of paper will bring a relief in life style and in the need to chase after those same pieces of paper, but it actually deepens the sustained slavery. Money is a fake source of ' energy' when in reality everything we need is around us. There's a lot to discover on how to 'play' with this essence when Wade's number one emphasis is to' play' from the heart and to 'play' with integrity. Addiction - is another component, which again, somewhat relates to the rush of energy in the body.

    Lottery is an instatnt and a prolonged gratification. In our day to day life we need to be fed, to be dressed, be able to go long distances, but we also need to be happy. Money in our society provides the illusion of happiness. An ongoing programmed illusion like a hamster running on a wheel. It is a fata morgana. We get no where, we are exhusting our fake energy sources in the never ending running on the wheel and as Wade concludes, a break in paradigm is required , a break that can come only from a wider vision and from creative thinking. Alternatively, from one minute standing at the edge of the cliff and than falling into the abyss, but that may be a little too radical and a little too late, not a desired outcome.


    Wade's choir singing idea can also bring change to the paradigm

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    I have not yet read this book, but Avalon member - Dan33 has left me a qoute from it which sparked my interest. MIND OF THE CELLS- by satperm

    "Four and a half billion members of Homo sapiens are in the process of learning the futility of their ways of existence, just as one day some fish learned the futility of their gills on dry land, and evolved into amphibians. If those fish had sought to improve their aquatic Science, devised new gills and new philosophies, they would have been completely beside the point. Now the question is whether we will find the WAY, not to improve the human suffocation, but to be and live otherwise on this earth. Is there within this human body a handle, a lever, that would enable us to change our way of being on earth, just as the first mental vibration some three million years ago paved the way for Einstein and the Boeing 747? What vibration? Where, in the body? Could it be that the primary form of living matter, the cell, holds a power of consciousness or a "vibratory mode" capable of making all our present mental devices and pointless artifices obsolete? In other words, a Mind of the Cells which will open up to us new sources of energy, new methods of communication, a new power to handle matter. A new biology and a new consciousness which will enable us to face the challenge of a species on its way to self-destruction. Such is the incredible discovery of Sri Aurobindo and Mother in the cells of the body, at a time when the earth is suffocating. For "Salvation is physical," said Mother, who, at the age of eighty, dared to knock at the last door in the body, and who made the most extraordinary discovery since Darwin"

    http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...of_the_Species

    I look forward to reading it
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    Hi:

    I have mentioned it previously:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post704670

    For none of the epochal changes was there some kind of social/political revolution that preceded it. The social revolution came as a result of it. This is where almost every activist for radical change has it backwards. Protohumans learned to sustain a fire probably only once, and other protohumans copied it. It was the result of fire that changed humanity. For that small group that learned to control a fire, it was an unprecedented social and technical act. That Great Leap Forward, when humans learned to become super-predators, is what allowed humans to spread across all the ecosystems. But it was the improved toolset that made the effort possible, and it was invented by a very small group of people and spread.

    In a way, it is very much like how key aspects of life happened. It is currently thought that life came into being once, that the envelopment of a respiring bacterium into an archaean happened once (which became a mitochondria, and complex life was born), that the envelopment of a cyanobacterium into an archaean happened once (which led to plants):

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn1

    Domestication happened in several places across the planet, apparently independently, but in each instance, it surely began with a very small group of people, and maybe even one person in places, and then it spread as others copied it.

    The only epochal event that happened during recorded history was the Industrial Revolution, and it happened in one place, England, and again, there were really only a relative few people that made the key breakthroughs. The study of the early days of England’s industrialization is not pretty, however. Industrialization, with its attendant capitalism, was a highly coercive institution, with the workforce for England’s industrialization being peasants who were forcibly removed from the land. Greed became sanctified into a virtue, and the early mills were hellish places, and child labor became normal. Social efforts indeed made working conditions better, but the feat of industrialization and the energy it harnessed was a technical achievement above all else that set the paradigm, and it was initiated by a relative handful of people. The social transformation of civilization came later, as women and slaves were liberated, etc.

    After many years in the milieu, I have come to the same conclusion about FE. A social/political movement is not going to get it done. The Level 10 efforts have all been easily defeated:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

    as virtually everybody involved has been stuck in the old paradigm of scarcity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#coming

    and Godzilla is an expert at managing that paradigm. All the Level 10 efforts that I have seen pandered to some scarcity-based ideology to get its foot in the door, and that was the beginning of the end for them. FE is going to be a technical feat, engaged in by a relative handful of people. With what I am trying to get going, it will be a lot more people than ever initiated the other epochal shifts, but it will still be a relative handful of people. As with the other changes, the technical change will fuel the social/ideological/political changes, not the other way around. Way too many people are trying to fit the new wine into the old skins, thinking that some social or political movement is going to make FE happen, or some kind of ideological breakthrough. None of those things will do it, IMO. It is time to get beyond ideologies, social conditioning, thinking that the retail political system holds any promise, and so on.

    The fifth epochal change will dwarf everything that came before it, and the inertia in humanity is truly awesome to behold, and its momentum may well take us all over the cliff into oblivion, but I am trying to see if we cannot only avoid sailing off into the abyss, but also manifesting something that looks one heck of a lot like Heaven on Earth. But we are not going to get there by the New Age flavor of the day, by some gurus enlightening us, and all the other stuff that we see out there. FE is going to happen via something different, by a small group of people who have let go of the scarcity-based baggage and who dare to imagine something different that has never been seen before: abundance. The organized suppression to prevent this from happening is also something awesome to behold, at least if you are one person or a small group whom it targets, but if enough people truly wake up, there is no way that they are going to be able to stop it.

    What I am doing and about to do may be seen one day as an early failed attempt at it, but if FE is going to happen via the public, it is likely going to happen along the lines that I am attempting, unless Godzilla decides to let it happen, and I am not holding my breath for that possibility.

    Time for chores.

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    I always had this theory that things started with two people.
    who may not even have known about each others existence.

    Two to create the dynamic to make the idea spread.
    Wasn't the telephone patent registered by two, only hours apart?

    1844 was the year that Karl Marx wrote his book Das Kapital, and at the same time the Bahai Faith was born in Iran, same message, minus the idea of using force.

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    Thanks Ulli:

    Whenever two or more are gathered...

    Yes, there was a priority controversy over the phone:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisha_...rsy#Background

    This was common enough in the history of science and technology, where pioneers were on similar paths, due to the similar technological and scientific milieu. The priority of the Wright brothers was disputed for generations:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_...ithsonian_feud

    Newton fought for priority over calculus:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz...us_controversy

    Marx was active in 1844, but Das Kapital came in the 1860s. It seems that most FE inventors think that they are on some kind of cutting edge, technologically, but they are at a very rudimentary stage that has been getting refined in the above-top-secret world for longer than I have been alive. So, on the technological end, there is really nothing novel about FE. The idea of practical abundance that can come with FE is also an old idea, but if FE can be kept under wraps, then the idea of practical abundance is kept moribund. Godzilla knows what he is doing. This is a conundrum like no other, but since it revolves around the biggest event since the control of fire, an unprecedented conundrum around it makes sense.

    It would be nice if the path to FE was being selflessly and thoughtfully trod by many, but that is not the case today, with everybody trying to get rich and famous, thinking that the old skins will hold the new wine, etc. The FE effort will start small, because there are not many who are thinking in those directions today. When I was with Dennis in Boston in 1987, and we began doing our first Greatest Energy Shows on Earth:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#barnum

    we had this fantasy that once we got out of the gate (we gave away our first FE idea, and it still might work, but is a poor cousin to solid state FE devices), that others would get a stampede going, and then the Big Boys would have to beat us to the market with FE, and we could then sit back and say, “You won!” Wink. Nudge. But without Dennis to make noise, nothing happened, and every time he was wiped out, it was up to him to get it going again, with new people.

    I wish it was more than a few, but it has never started that way, and only a relative few will make FE happen. The rest will begin to awaken when they can see it – so it has always been:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    Best,

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    Hi:

    As I plunk along on the essay, in-between hiking, playing husband, and the like, I am reading and writing about the vast subject matter that will be in the essay. In between studying quantum physics, geology, and cosmology, I find myself reading plenty of anthropology. I just finished Ian Tattersall’s The World from the Beginnings to 4000 BCE, which is a nice, slim summary of the state-of-the-art in prehistoric anthropology.

    Tattersall ends his book by noting that moving from the hunter-gatherer phase of existence to civilization was not necessarily a good thing. In it, he invokes a connectedness to nature that pre-civilized peoples had, which IMO is in danger of idealizing the so-called nature-worshipping aspect of “primitive” peoples. As made clear in Radkau’s Nature and Power, the relationship that pre-civilized peoples had with nature was one of trying to gain power over nature. Those pre-hunting rituals were first and foremost about making the kill, not the wellbeing of the prey. There is slim evidence that hunter-gatherer peoples ever reduced their killing out of some sense of balance with nature. If they saw an opportunity for windfall energy gains, they took it. If there is a constant theme of the human journey, it is that one, from the first stone tools to the awesome draining and burning of the world’s hydrocarbon deposits.

    There is no Golden Age of the human journey, although arguments can be made for the initial plunder of the new energy resource, whether it was the megafauna, virgin forests and virgin soils, whales, fur-bearing animals, and hydrocarbons - oil in particular. But close behind the initial plunder was the plateau, whether it was peak megafauna, peak wood, peak fur, peak whales, or Peak Oil, and then it was a long twilight of sucking at the dregs until a new energy source was opened for plunder, usually via technological breakthroughs.

    But the last paragraph in Tattersall’s book is particularly key for my work, which reads:


    “We like to think that history is created by people, and we are certainly most often taught it that way; but things are not that simple. Irresistible socioeconomic forces often result in environmental pressures that are totally beyond the control of the societies concerned and of their leaders. Thus, factors that are external to individual people, or even to societies and nations themselves, have ultimately been behind a large proportion of the blossomings, breakdowns, and conflicts that make up the complex tapestry of human history.”


    What Tattersall is referring to, in its essence, is scarcity. Humans have always wrested energy from nature, while simultaneously trying to avoid both the consequences of their actions and the capriciousness of the weather and climate. Droughts have been the chief proximal cause of the collapse of ancient civilizations, but they were exacerbated by the civilization taking its practices up to and beyond the local ecosystems’ ability to sustain the continual human impact. With FE, all of those dynamics disappear, virtually overnight. The same farming practices that leave the ecosphere alone will also keep crops immune to the vagaries of weather and climate, as well as bring abundance to all peoples. Talk about a win-win-win situation. In that light, it can really be surreal to see how FE is opposed from virtually all directions. It is unimaginable to more than 99% of the population, and the tiny fraction that gets past denial or fear gets tripped up by trying to put the new wine into the old skins (Levels 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6 ).

    Attached are some images from recent trips in the mountains. In that picture of Mount Rainier, on the small peak to the left of Rainier is a lookout. The other picture is taken from that lookout, looking back at the meadow (Grand Park http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/grand-park ) where that Rainier picture is taken from. I have to admit that I have been getting in my fair share of hiking on this sabbatical. Going out tomorrow, Friday, and Sunday, and that kind of pattern will continue for the next couple of months. Somebody has to do it!

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    Hi:

    This is not news to any readers of this thread, but it foreshadows a key point in my upcoming essay. Richard Wrangham’s Cooking Hypothesis:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catchin..._Made_Us_Human

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...ution-question

    http://soar.wichita.edu/bitstream/ha...pdf?sequence=1

    is looking pretty good, and key dates keep getting pushed back. For instance, it is now looking like the bow and arrow was invented far longer ago than previously thought.

    http://www.uj.ac.za/EN/Newsroom/News...rowsfound.aspx

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...s-8294599.html

    The early dates also may coincide with the dispersal of modern humans from Africa. A recent book, The Humans Who Went Extinct, by Clive Finlayson, argues that climate change did in the Neanderthals. I think it is a pretty weak hypothesis. Humans are the most adaptive species in the history of Earth. I think it very likely that Neanderthals met the same fate that so many megafaunal species did soon after modern humans arrived:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megafau...ss_extinctions

    Whether it was competition or violence is probably pretty moot; the Neanderthals ultimately could not survive direct contact with modern humans. Because there is Neanderthal DNA in the human genome, there are arguments for making Neanderthals a subspecies of homo sapiens, which may be appropriate. The Neanderthals showed very few of the cultural traits that marked modern humans. There appears to have been some incorporation of the stone technology of modern humans, but little else.

    The genocidal spread of Europeans beginning five hundred years ago can be seen as just another episode in the spread of technologically-advanced humans. This has been our past, as bloody and unsavory as it may seem, but it does not mean that it has to be our future. Slavery was seen as human “nature” not too long ago. Women were seen as soulless in “Christian” circles, and so on. We can rise above our past. We can certainly learn from our past, which is theoretically one of humanity’s great advantages over other animals, but I see no strong reason why humanity’s future needs to be dictated by its past. The changes in human society and culture in the past two hundred years have nothing like them in the human past. We are in uncharted territory, and I think that the key to our future lies in our ability to manifest a heart-centered sentience, which will help FE manifest, and then a Star Trek future beckons.

    Time to go hiking.

    Best,

    Wade
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