Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Flash]

Positioning the archons and the dark forces within the overall evolution or devolution schemes

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[chocolate]

This is an interesting interview I received from a site I follow on Facebook. It speaks about The Archons, spirituality, The Hag Hammadi Scrolls, and how much do we see of these subjects in films through the eyes of some of the most popular film directors.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rPr25wZWPSQ

Just to give it some more boost, in the interview are also mentioned the creation of The Lord of the Rings, the writings of Zachaia Sitchin, the appearance of two suns, Nibiru, Tiamat, Sophia, the involvement of Nazi Germany in the history of the current earth world, Rennes-le-Chateau, CIA, the Matrix (not the film), 9/11 and how much time before the actual event everything might have been planned ...
a lot of subject we all discuss here constantly.

There was an exclamation by the end part of the interview:
"It cannot get better". Well, it is up to you to decide.

It is quite worth the listen in my opinion.

[DNA]

So I started watching this interview with a woman named RACHEL, and she discusses some pretty dark stuff. It's so dark I couldn't think of anywhere else to post it. She discusses a situation she was in as a child where she was in a cage along with hundreds of other children being tortured through electric shock treatment of some type or another. She states this was done as a means to steal the chi and or energy from the children and to find out which could live through it.

The one's who could live through it were apparently considered a good home for dark transdimenensional entities.
So the children who were lucky enough to live through it were not lucky at all, as they became possessed by these dark transdimensional entities.
Are these entities Archons like Jay Weidner talks about? Or are they reptillian beings? Or are these beings the Archons and Reptillians the same?

Also worth noting is this black goo, Rachel talks about, which sounds very much like what the entitie Horas Ra is made from.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ohx7bSeD5bQ

[Chester]

My best understanding is that "The Archons" which may be better viewed more generically as "anti-life forces" or "forces which believe they require actual life (ensouled life) to sustain their own existence" are a multi-leveled force.

At their highest level, they are unformed, incomplete perhaps or have lost something living beings seem to have from the roots of our creation. Shadow beings or perhaps some of the Djinn... other dimensional beings that are unable to exist in physical form and thus they seek hosts.

This is where some other species may come into play such as "The Reptilians" so often talked about. For one, just like on Earth we have all sorts of sub groups of human beings, it seems likely there are all sorts of Reptilian beings. And amongst the human being sub groups we have all sorts of folks which one might see as good or bad or plain indifferent. I imagine this would be the same amongst the Reptilian sub groups.

Some species may be judged by another species to be overall leaning closer to the Dark Forces or to the Forces of Light and though perhaps the majority of us here on the Avalon Forum may consider themselves of the Forces of Light (which we may equate with life, what we call love... compassion for others - other expressions of life, etc) I find it dangerous to see myself as a "good guy" where then I knee-jerk react in judging others. They simply share different motivations and come from different points of view.

Still, I am for life, I am for freedom of the soul and I am for the idea a universe can exist within which all beings are able to enjoy both. It appears that the Dark Forces do not share this view and thus the conflict.

There are then groups of beings that philosophically align with the view of these Dark Forces and thus appear to invite them into their own experience like some sort of strange partnership. One form of this is known as possession.

I believe it is a terrible mistake to equate Reptilians with those who automatically align with the Dark Forces and at the same time pretend Human Beings automatically align with the Forces of Light.

In addition and from a much wider point of view, within creation are all of these forces and thus for me at least, I see them as another expression of nature. But though I love and respect nature, hungry bears live in the woods and I don't go frolicking naively into those woods.

I found Dr. Malanga's research to provide what is currently the best explanation I have come upon for the components of this dynamic but I am ever open minded as to what may actually be the case. Perhaps the universe(s) work such that all possibility could unfold in all sorts of ways and each soul chooses which universal experience they wish to participate at every single moment. I don't pretend to know this.

But what I have discovered is that I have the ability to reduce the influence of the archontic forces in my life and this is astonishingly simple to do. And in being completely honest, this discovery has only come forth because I somehow have been targeted by these forces thus had to find solutions or else. Don't think I believe for one second I am out of the woods as Houman has warned their attention, when deflected by one of their primary targets gets focused upon those who are close with the primary target. In a way, one must remain permanently vigilant.

One of my techniques for achieving personal relief is to accept the possibility that at some deeper level of my being, I agreed to "bring this on." I am not suggesting this is true much less true for anyone else, but what I do is "try on that view." So far this has worked for me because I take responsibility for my current circumstance and thus am automatically empowered to either do something about it or be consumed by it.

"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth that which is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

From the Gospel of Thomas... the words of Jesus.

I personally use the term, "make you whole" instead of "save" but I quoted the popular translation.

[Atlas]

Posted by justoneman (here)
And in being completely honest, this discovery has only come forth because I somehow have been targeted by these forces thus had to find solutions or else.

Thank you for your post justoneman, may I ask 'or else' what ?

[TargeT]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
And in being completely honest, this discovery has only come forth because I somehow have been targeted by these forces thus had to find solutions or else.

Thank you for your post justoneman, may I ask 'or else' what ?

or else be consumed/destroyed by their influence (though even those terms are very perspective based, one could simply say "changed into that which they stand against, or dispse")

if you allow the influence to continue with out countering it you can see where the hitlers of the world come from; it's a very dark, distructive, exclusive (instead of inclusive) lonely, self loathing influence.

(this is my answer, not Justonemans, but I face the same question)

[Chester]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
And in being completely honest, this discovery has only come forth because I somehow have been targeted by these forces thus had to find solutions or else.

Thank you for your post justoneman, may I ask 'or else' what ?

How I interpret the advice is this - I have a "Soul urge" which is behind a particular incarnation I may embark upon. If, once conscious, sentient and mature, I fight against this soul urge, I may find I am unfulfilled in that incarnative opportunity. Some might see it as "their inner calling." I believe this to be a choice I make prior to incarnation. I do not want to believe my life purpose is "assigned to me" by some other being. None of any of this can I know much less prove (nor do I care to). But I can bet on that which I hope is true and by way of living my life based on that bet being true, I should find out if I made the correct wager.

My primary wager is that I bet I am (actually my essence is) an eternal being. I consider the soul to be the representation of that eternal being. I interpret the term "Spirit" to be my drive to experience, thus theoretically, in this dynamic, it is possible there could be spirit beings which are not ensouled.

Dr. Malanga's vision of Genesis (which may have changed since his 1.0 version) was based on a similar dynamic. In this dynamic is presented a "spiritual war" for our souls which some suspect is more real than you might wish and which was spoken about by Gnostics prior to the creation of Christianity and which existed in parallel thereafter though generally kept underground. The last historically recognized Gnostics prior to recent times were the Cathars.

Interesting that at this very moment there is a massive ethno/religious cleansing effort going on against the Coptic Christians in Egypt and other parts of the middle east.

[Chester]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
And in being completely honest, this discovery has only come forth because I somehow have been targeted by these forces thus had to find solutions or else.

Thank you for your post justoneman, may I ask 'or else' what ?

or else be consumed/destroyed by their influence (though even those terms are very perspective based, one could simply say "changed into that which they stand against, or dispse")

if you allow the influence to continue with out countering it you can see where the hitlers of the world come from; it's a very dark, distructive, exclusive (instead of inclusive) lonely, self loathing influence.

(this is my answer, not Justonemans, but I face the same question)

I am unconcerned about this for myself because I know my essence is compassionate... in fact, I lead with compassion - Chester style haha. I would recommend that Hitler, if he has a soul (and I believe he did) get honest with himself the best he can and perhaps reconsider some of his ideas.


I also am happy to express my views when stimulated by reading BS or in another form experiencing BS, especially hypocrisy. I am not saying what you, Target, have written is BS but I have read lots of BS lately... And if someone gets upset about that and chooses to chop off my head, so be it. I have infinite incarnations and in infinite realms (not just this material realm).

[donk]

I was thinking about the reptilian thing and like what you mention about there being different ones. I think humanoid (bipedal upright, two hands and a head) is the most efficient form sentient 3d life can take, hence greys, felines...mantids really aren't too far off), so there's probably a slew of different reptilians.

Imagine a planet of them at the same sort of stage of civilization we are at. Little friendly reptilian kids are scared of the smooth sorta hairy primatoids that come (with their lil gang of greys) and abduct and rape the oblivious uninformed citezens. They fear anything looking like a smooth skinned human.

Maybe there's a relatively nearby planet ripe for the archons to nab hosts. Maybe they use us as hosts for the bad guys on that planet.

A spiritual form of the ghoa'l from star gate sg-1? They would take human hosts mostly, but you find later in the series the original were swamp monster looking dudes, who really have no beef w humanity (or anybody)

[Chester]

Great post, Donk... Why? Because I loved the attitude I sensed in you behind the post. Open minded... compassionate, zero of that "us/them" dynamic...

This is exactly why I believe my approach to the Archontic "problem" is a pathway to solution as I try and understand them, not judge them. Do I trust them? Sorry - cannot exactly go that far. Am I interested in a more peaceful future? - absolutely. Could that somehow involve the Archons who may find a pathway to change for themselves as opposed to being placed in boxes or eliminated, etc? I would be foolish to rule that out. Still, it is my belief at this time that the Archons are intimately, directly involved with the madness that occurs (and actually appears to rule) on Earth at this time.

Please, check out these two posts I just made in one of Bill's threads as they just as easily could have (and perhaps should have) been made here -

Post 1

Post 2

[Camilo]

Houman, thanks for these wealth of information.

[donk]

This is scary how much I can relate to it...perhaps the closest to anything I have ever experienced on this subject. I would love any comments explaining how Tsarion is wrong on any of these points, so that i may again begin questioning my previously near-certainty I am dealing with a vamp.

Mine seems to be generational, as I removed my ex--who undeniably vampired me dry, and her mother has "corded" sincel. I am real close to severing it, have learned and grew a lot since the fateful day I met the ex, the day everything in my life started to go haywire, and increasingly chaotic ever since.

But I still just feel obligation to satisfy nearly impossible contract I entered into, even though it was like a deal with the devil...I feel I should be able to, it's my responsibility...but I digress...please listen and tell me what you think:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UGQSIQ4BM-I

[Bill Ryan]

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Thanks (donk!) for bumping this thread.

For new members, this is one of the most important threads not only on the forum but on the internet. It's packed with valuable information, and needs careful reading. Warning: it may change your worldview!

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by donk (here)
This is scary how much I can relate to it...perhaps the closest to anything I have ever experienced on this subject. I would love any comments explaining how Tsarion is wrong on any of these points, so that i may again begin questioning my previously near-certainty I am dealing with a vamp.

Mine seems to be generational, as I removed my ex--who undeniably vampired me dry, and her mother has "corded" sincel. I am real close to severing it, have learned and grew a lot since the fateful day I met the ex, the day everything in my life started to go haywire, and increasingly chaotic ever since.

But I still just feel obligation to satisfy nearly impossible contract I entered into, even though it was like a deal with the devil...I feel I should be able to, it's my responsibility...but I digress...please listen and tell me what you think:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UGQSIQ4BM-I

I've been waiting for a recent Tsarion interview to listen to, thanks for posting this.

Tsarion hits the nail on the head on many topics, he and many of his lectures belong in this thread IMO.

[Chester]

I have briefly delved into this material by Tsarion on the subject of "psychic vampirism." Before I comment, perhaps I should listen fully to each of his lengthy youtube presentations, read fully the documents Tsarion provides on his site which is psychicvampirism.com and listen to the full interview noted by donk above - an interview between Tsarion and David Whitehead.

But I don't always do what I should do. - Here are my comments.

There is a clear "us / them" dynamic displayed by Tsarion. I, personally, see "experience" as what Time Freke has coined as "paralogical." Thus I can allow myself to be anchored in the world view of opposites, yet I am also able to understand what I can only attempt to point to - a formless view, a view with no opposites.

Thus within the realm of form, I can see opposites, but I am turned off by the dynamic of an us / them as that view tends to overshadow my larger view - that the realms of form are ultimately illusion.

Now - to get to my point... Tsarion... early in his interview, negates the possibility folks can be influenced by what we call demons and/or aliens and other manifestations of such known as dark energies, Archons, other forms of life that have the ability to telepathically influence the thoughts (and thus the mind) of others, the technology described by many, but specifically Robert Duncan (mind hacking / mind management technology) and the works of many but specifically Dr. Malanga relative to "alien" influence amongst other actors within the world he has come to know as depicted in his Genesis I, II and III writings. I should also mention the studies of Eve Lorgen and finally to point out the "technologies" used by practitioners of SRA.

Much of this thread has covered a great deal of these possibilities and I have an open mind that to some degree of "realness" within the grand illusion (this matrix) some or all of the above plays a role in what bleeds over to being a victim of psychic vampirism as well as to be a practitioner of psychic vampirism and quite often we find folks who have experienced both.

What I have gathered so far is that Mr. Tsarion relegates all these matters to one single world, the world of human psychology. Maybe I am making a false conclusion, but if I am correct, then Tsarion's apparently narrow view is not a view I currently share.

[donk]

Listen to the interview Ches, I think he describes one aspect of our reality, one which I (& even I have read a lot of you) relate to through direct experience. Much of what you have shared of your own personal journey sounds exactly like what he describes.

I don't feel he negates anything anyone else does, as the area he covers may be mutually exclusive from what you bring up, at least in this interview-- he never denies any of what you (or Eva or dr malanga) are talking about. In fact I don't think any of those people's information conflicts with anything he says...unless they/you are into that whole solipsism thing.

He makes a clear case that we can effected by external forces, that in our incarnation we did not willfully ask for or choose or are directly responsibile for. I am pretty sure that's what all those folks will tell yu as well

[Chester]

Posted by donk (here)
Listen to the interview Ches, I think he describes one aspect of our reality, one which I (& even I have read a lot of you) relate to through direct experience. Much of what you have shared of your own personal journey sounds exactly like what he describes.

I don't feel he negates anything anyone else does, as the area he covers may be mutually exclusive from what you bring up, at least in this interview-- he never denies any of what you (or Eva or dr malanga) are talking about. In fact I don't think any of those people's information conflicts with anything he says...unless they/you are into that whole solipsism thing.

He makes a clear case that we can effected by external forces, that in our incarnation we did not willfully ask for or choose or are directly responsibile for. I am pretty sure that's what all those folks will tell yu as well

Will do, donk... also... it sounds to me from your post that you have ended the relationship with the one you have mentioned so many times. If I am correct in coming to this conclusion, I pass along my understanding as to how difficult all this is. I also appreciate you and think of you fondly and often as we have crossed paths here in Avalon many times and have shared some PMs. Several of your posts have been a direct help to my own experience.

Because of my respect you, I will go through the whole interview as well as read Tsarion's documentation and try and watch his several part video series before I make further comment.

[Flash]

Just saying hi Chester and Donk, kisses and love to both of you.

[donk]

I may have miscommunicated--I am still with Ness. I feel like it was the day I met my ex that my life spiraled into sh!tstorm of unchecked emotion brought on by synchronistic (not in a good way) real events as well crap she (whether consciously or not) created. She had mentioned "not feeling human", was diagnosed with everything in that mental health manual, and went through a slew of addictions and identities.

She makes me feel that any being is not completely hopeless (but maybe not this lifetime) that those in the dark do crave the light. I got caught in her mother's web, to find that while she functions better with better with other humans (though she has isolated herself on to a ranch with just her hubby and kid--tried to lure mine their for keeps too), she is more contriving and selfish. The way she speaks of her mother (and her daughter confirmed, and I caught glimpses), grandma is the worst (while my son seems to have better chance of not going that direction--he shows a near-sociopathic tendancy super occasionally)...so I feel it's a generational (hopefully female only) bloodline thing (gene, curse, I dunno?)

Anyways my whole point is, that interview (I can't speak to any more of his work, and I didn't get a chance to study the docs) speaks to what I've gone through...what this thread and Avalon in General has prepared me to help finishing out the final contract I got duped into with what I feel is family of psychic vampires--especially to the point of mental disorders being an excuse for amorality and immorality & real sick scary selfishness...

[Christine]

Hi Chester! Been wondering where you've been. So I will joint Flash in giving out hugs to you and donk. P.S. Michael Tsarion has a lot to say, I have listened to hours and hours of his work and value it greatly.