Road to WWIII -The reasons why this was all planned out.

[ruthy]

Hi all,

my fiancé actually found this video online and showed it to me, its very very good. A lot of homework went into lining up the course of events leading to the US's involvement in the middle east, and how this is all pre-arranged. Its only about 14 min. long, well worth the watch!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

Thoughts?!

[Tesseract]

Has anyone presented a mathematical proof of why the US dollar would collapse if countries stopped using it to buy oil? The oil-trade alone is not the sole foundation of the US dollar's value, besides, it isn't as if the other currencies of the world have no value, is it?

Knowledge, materials and energy are real wealth. The US does import some oil, but it produces much of it's own as well, it has abundant materials, and is the most technologically rich country on the planet. If technology wasn't critical there wouldn't be the mass importing of (not oil), but scientists, from around the globe (I am one of them). The US border is pretty porous if you have the right qualifications. The R&D group that I work in has only one American in its ranks, and that person is not even really a scientist and may not have a job for much longer.

The domestic currency that facilitates the trading of these items (knowledge/materials/wealth) will have intrinsic value unless the owners of the technology, materials and energy decide to stop using the dollar as a trading agent (and I believe that there are laws preventing that...). The dollar's value won't disappear in the event that some OPEC countries start accepting other currencies for their oil, but it will probably be reduced, depending also on how the value of oil changes through time. Additionally, the value of the currency can be reduced if the currency is blatantly printed as fast as the presses can run, but that is also a complicated matter.

I am not saying oil is not hugely important, it is, but I am saying that it is probably incorrect to assign such a heavy weight to it when judging the value of the US dollar. Where do people buy their life extending drugs from? Where will hospitals get their MRI machines in the future? Where are they going to buy the knowledge of how to make a faster computer or a higher energy battery? There's a fair chance it will come from the USA. The USA takes in energy, talent and materials and turns that into wealth more than any country on earth. This great engine will need a spanner thrown into the works, or an equivalent juggernaut(s) established elsewhere, before the US dollar collapses. Of course, I may be wrong but I am just taking up the invitation in the OP and making an argument.

And frankly, I can't help but feel the vilification of the bankers is a giant blame shifting exercise. I don't like banks, which in the west are quite the consummation of capitalist greed, and finding an ounce of morality in the financial world is about as easy as finding an ounce of gold in common dirt. While they do buy influence, profiteer, exaggerate wealth disparity and manipulate global finance - I don't believe they are THE agency behind the world's problems.

[ruthy]

I think the main problem is image. The image of the dollar back in the day was that it was infallible. Everyone wanted to jump on the dollar bandwagon, oil was traded in dollars. Now that OPEC dumped the dollar and are now trading in a real currency, gold, the dollar is threatened, because it's image is smeared. Plus it's no secret that the dollar has not been backed in gold for quite some time. So oil is the great commodity on the planet, we use it in many many ways. We do produce some oil, but not enough to suit our high consumeristic lifestyle. We need more, and more importantly we want to control the oil supply so that we can make money selling it to other nations as well.

Take for example Haiti, most people don't know this, but Haiti has a lot of oil. After the major earthquake there a couple years back, the US sent in troops to bring "aid" to the Haitians. This was of course bs, they didn't show up with food, they didn't show up with medicine. They showed up with guns though. They also tried to block the Dominican Rep. from sending in aid to Haiti, by arming the borders of Haiti. Dom. Rep. rebelled by then moving a ton of their military to the border to escort aid convoys. They US then, outnumbered, let them in. The US is still there by the way. Haiti lacked the infrastructure and wealth to extract the oil, and sell it. The US basically went in there and is now taking Haiti's oil. Oh did I mention that the US kicked out the Haitian leader, claiming he was incapable of taking care of his people after this disaster, and the US put in the last Haitian dictator, who was formerly ousted for being corrupt, and the US put him back in as their puppet so they could take the oil no questions asked. How i know this? My fiance is dominican and his father has military and health and volunteer contacts who were the ones crossing the border to try to help.

We do this everywhere. We go in, we first offer bribes, then when they refuse we sometimes try to start a coup, then we just go in and assassinate who we need to, put in a puppet leader, and it's business as usual. We've done this in countless south american countries, putting in known violent criminals as dictators.

The middle east, has always been a chess game. We've kept israel in our pocket as a panic button. It's a small country. It's also happens to have tons of weaponry sold to by of course the US. It tells us what is going on, it spies for us, it makes threats for us, and vice versa. If we need to put boots on the ground, we can ship them there. But at the same time what is Israels guarantee that we won't just use them and wipe them out when we are done? Take a google search of a professional helicopter flyer in nyc. He was doing some research on radiation levels over the nyc area several years ago. His radiation detector went off the charts on one specific location in nyc. WAy way above the rest of the background radiation. Guess where. Over the Israeli embassy. They put a bomb in there, they snuck it in, by law we can't inspect them because it's considered israeli territory. That is their guarantee. We ditch them, they push the button. the end.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Tesseract (here)
I am not saying oil is not hugely important, it is, but I am saying that it is probably incorrect to assign such a heavy weight to it when judging the value of the US dollar.

For a currency to work, it must have some constraint on creation, and some reason it is needed.

If a currency is "free for the taking" like Zimbabwe Dollars or German Marks, in their respective periods of hyperinflation, then people are trying to unload the currency, like a hot potato, before it becomes worth even less.

If a currency is not needed for some essential (food on the table, keeping the tax man or "repo" (repossessor of collateral on bad loans) man at bay, ...) then people, corporations or countries, aren't trying to obtain more of it.

Monetary systems are essentially about a flow of "generic value" (a medium of exchange across space and time) ... a limited source and an adequate sink are both required to sustain the flow.

So long as most nations of the world could not satisfy their energy requirements unless they had US Dollars to pay for Petro, there was a world-wide demand for US Dollars. So long as the US Monetary System (Fed, Treasury, et aliter) does not issue (outside of the cooked books of a few Too Big To Fail (TBTF) banks and a few inside off-books organizations) unlimited US Dollars, there is a limited source for US Dollars.

That has been the basis for the world monetary system, using the US Dollar as its "reserve currency", since World War II and Bretton Woods. Limited lending and Petro demand (and gold demand, prior to Nixon closing the gold window in 1971) have been the limited source and reliable sink which has maintained the flow essential to a functioning monetary system.

(US Dollars for "the rest of us", outside the TBTF banks and off-book organizations, are lent into existence. Lending to "the rest of us" (governments, corporations and individuals) has been shrinking since 2007, not expanding. The "rest of us" are seeing less money on average, not more ... austerity is a word known to many more than it was known to in 2007.)

I am convinced that we are being setup for another reset of the world monetary system, away from the present US Dollar as the world's reserve currency. What else lies on this road, and whether it will be more or less war and tyranny, that I don't know yet. My best guess (taken from Martin Armstrong) is that we are a couple of years away from the ultimate turning point.

The US will have value to export after that point, yes, as you observed. But it will have to balance its trade, unlike the last few decades. Americans will live poorer, globalization will recede, and more of the work and goods of Americans will be local, within the US. The tyrannical insanity of the US Federal government will recede over the coming decades, though it will not go quietly into the night. China's Great Export Leap forward will also recede, and it will become more self sufficient for its markets.

[Conchis]

It also seems to me as though, for some unexplained reason, the "Tea Party" seems to want to hurry this whole change along. These political threats to shut down government, to stop funding the government, to default on US debt does nothing but encourages other countries to abandon the once sacrosanct currency in favor of recognizing each currency. I know that profit is always made on the back of uncertainty and volatility so maybe this is the true motive for their strategy, but I'm not sure.

[DNA]

You sold me with 14 minutes. So many a-holes post multi-hour lectures with almost no explanation of what you are getting into other than "watch this".

[Bill Ryan]

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I'd highly recommend the video. I think they got it pretty much exactly right.

In brief (my own paraphrased synopsis, with a little added):

The NWO/ globalists/ controllers want to create the ultimate problem, so they can impose the ultimate solution: a highly-controlled and regulated one-world state with no more warring individual nations.

That's because [they argue] the existence of individual cultures and different religions inevitably leads to conflict. This is all laid out in The Report from Iron Mountain.

http://projectavalon.net/Report_from_Iron_Mountain.pdf

So World War III has become a goal. They also believe it's destiny. Michael Baigent lays this all out in his book Racing Toward Armageddon.

Here's Baigent's interview on Coast to Coast AM, in Sept 2009:

• http://projectavalon.net/Michael_Bai...009_Hour_2.mp3
• http://projectavalon.net/Michael_Bai...009_Hour_3.mp3
• http://projectavalon.net/Michael_Bai...009_Hour_4.mp3

The long-term game plan has been to stir up such hatred of America and the West in the Middle East that in the end there will be a united opposition to everything the imperialist US stands for at a nation-state-level. Then -- they can have their Armageddon war.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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I'd highly recommend the video. I think they got it pretty much exactly right.

In brief (my own paraphrased synopsis, with a little added):

The NWO/ globalists/ controllers want to create the ultimate problem, so they can impose the ultimate solution: a highly-controlled and regulated one-world state with no more warring individual nations.

That's because [they argue] the existence of individual cultures and different religions inevitably leads to conflict. This is all laid out in The Report from Iron Mountain.

http://projectavalon.net/Report_from_Iron_Mountain.pdf

So World War III has become a goal. They also believe it's destiny. Michael Baigent lays this all out in his book Racing Toward Armageddon.

Here's Baigent's interview on Coast to Coast AM, in Sept 2009:

• http://projectavalon.net/Michael_Bai...009_Hour_2.mp3
• http://projectavalon.net/Michael_Bai...009_Hour_3.mp3
• http://projectavalon.net/Michael_Bai...009_Hour_4.mp3

The long-term game plan has been to stir up such hatred of America and the West in the Middle East that in the end there will be a united opposition to everything the imperialist US stands for at a nation-state-level. Then -- they can have their Armageddon war.

In the meanwhile before the big war there will be massive brainwashing and events to create mass confusion and fear.

Personally I think a weapon and or tool will come into play soon that'll really be a game changer when it comes to human thought patterns and brainwaves (CERN has something to do with this weapon/tool IMO).

Brainwave and Thought Pattern Manipulation - AI Technology And The Invasion Of Our Minds

[ghostrider]

removing them from office is the only recourse ... they won't change their minds or agenda ... it will take all of us , working together , knowing we can do better with equal rights for all , based on the constitution , and electing new leaders based on wisdom not the amount of money in their personal bank accounts... we need the smartest people in office not the richest , the mainstream media has blood on it's hands, they helped create government insanity ... Never trust them, even after the revolution , I always prefer the governor of each state as the leader , and he follows the will of his state , all the way down to local leaders ... every big issue should be by national vote , not electronic machines but by pen and paper , with outside observers , deliver both sides with no propaganda , three hours later vote on it ... we must take our power back from them ... we know where their ideas will lead , to death ... in the meantime send the dead bodies in their coffins to the front door steps of the board that oversees the federal reserve ... let them see what their decisions create ... sad our world suffers of the value of paper instead of the value of human life ...

[ruthy]

I don't think removing them from office will do one bit of good. They are "talking heads" no more than that, the real powerful ones pulling the strings are behind the scenes..for the most part.

Sadly, I don't think there is anything we can really do to avoid a WWIII. Have you noticed lately that they don't seem to care all that much if people dislike their motives.. I detect this "pedal to the metal" kind of attitude now, and I think they sense that at this point in the game, they are sensing that people are waking up and are hurrying things along. Yes it's a great thing that because of J. Kerry's flubup that we stalled a full blown conflict in Syria, but I don't think that's the end of that story. Syria is on their list of countries to invade, and there is not a single one other than Iran who they admitted they are leaving for last, that they skipped over because people were against it too much. I mean the protests and anger about the Iraq invasion was incredible. They still went in. They are still there in fact. So, I think they are just taking a breather, rearranging their strategy, and will try another tactic to attack Syria. I'm smelling a powerful false flag coming on. Maybe faking an attack on Israel and claiming it was the Syrians, or faking an attack on US soil and claiming it was Syria or even Iran. Now we have news being published how India is doing exercises with the long range missiles with atomic capabilities.

I can't remember if it was Bill Ryan or who posted the tidbit about the grid being shut down on Nov. 13-14...but I think between Oct. 1st and Nov. 15th, we should be extra aware of what is happening. The fact that a.) the US shipped nuclear arsenal to region 3 of FEMA with no paperwork or signoffs. b.) the FEMA sent emergency supplies to this same area ordered to be stocked by Oct.1st c.) that our troops all of them were told to take a disaster training course that must be completed by Oct. 1st d.) That now the grid planned shutdown "exercise" for not one not two but three countries, the US Canada and Mexico for two days time on Nov. 13-14 and lastly e.) That on Nov. 13th -14th or there abouts, Comet Ison is going to pass THE closest to earth.

Maybe we are shutting down our grid, to protect it because we know something will happen on those dates. Maybe we are going to use that as a time to invade whoever we want because their systems are completely fried and they are defenseless.

Or maybe I'm thinking too much, which happens

[Etherios]

Posted by ruthy (here)
I don't think removing them from office will do one bit of good. They are "talking heads" no more than that, the real powerful ones pulling the strings are behind the scenes..for the most part.

Sadly, I don't think there is anything we can really do to avoid a WWIII. Have you noticed lately that they don't seem to care all that much if people dislike their motives.. I detect this "pedal to the metal" kind of attitude now, and I think they sense that at this point in the game, they are sensing that people are waking up and are hurrying things along. Yes it's a great thing that because of J. Kerry's flubup that we stalled a full blown conflict in Syria, but I don't think that's the end of that story. Syria is on their list of countries to invade, and there is not a single one other than Iran who they admitted they are leaving for last, that they skipped over because people were against it too much. I mean the protests and anger about the Iraq invasion was incredible. They still went in. They are still there in fact. So, I think they are just taking a breather, rearranging their strategy, and will try another tactic to attack Syria. I'm smelling a powerful false flag coming on. Maybe faking an attack on Israel and claiming it was the Syrians, or faking an attack on US soil and claiming it was Syria or even Iran. Now we have news being published how India is doing exercises with the long range missiles with atomic capabilities.

I can't remember if it was Bill Ryan or who posted the tidbit about the grid being shut down on Nov. 13-14...but I think between Oct. 1st and Nov. 15th, we should be extra aware of what is happening. The fact that a.) the US shipped nuclear arsenal to region 3 of FEMA with no paperwork or signoffs. b.) the FEMA sent emergency supplies to this same area ordered to be stocked by Oct.1st c.) that our troops all of them were told to take a disaster training course that must be completed by Oct. 1st d.) That now the grid planned shutdown "exercise" for not one not two but three countries, the US Canada and Mexico for two days time on Nov. 13-14 and lastly e.) That on Nov. 13th -14th or there abouts, Comet Ison is going to pass THE closest to earth.

Maybe we are shutting down our grid, to protect it because we know something will happen on those dates. Maybe we are going to use that as a time to invade whoever we want because their systems are completely fried and they are defenseless.

Or maybe I'm thinking too much, which happens

or maybe all these are distractions to make us focus on that area and time ... while they do something else. If we start to speculate then i think we wont even have time to think...

[ruthy]

New update this morning, Now the US, France and the UK have agreed to bolster support to the Syrian Rebels. ..the same rebels linked with Al Qaeda.

http://rt.com/news/syria-uk-us-france-919/

And here is a 2 min. video of one of these rebels admitting that they used chemical weapons and mentioning terrorist connections.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V5kda1KhqlU

Here is a news article by Turkey showing that these groups are linked to Al Qaeda and sought chemical weapons.
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/09/...mical-weapons/

I think they are just twisting the facts of this whole issue around and around. I myself am completely confused as to who is the good guy who is the bad guy etc. And I'm pretty sure that was their intention, and that most of the public is also so mystified as to what the heck is going on, that it just turned them off to the whole issue. The mindset of..." i don't understand it, so i will just leave it to the people in power to know what is best". Bingo. Mission Accomplished.

I knew I knew they were going to find some way to still get involved. The Syrian Rebels, Get this now...they slammed the deal between the US and Putin...shocker..and they said that Assad is moving chemical weapons to.... *Cue Drumroll for the full circle of bs* IRAQ and LEBANON. We just keep coming back to Iraq...if we say Iraq it's suddenly cool to go in and throw down. oh they want to spread the chemical weapons now. Forget the fact that these rebels who claim they have no chemical weapons, are saying threateningly that if they send in UN inspectors that they will be shot. Forget about that. Let's instead believe whatever else they say about Assad and anything in general. They seem like a trustworthy lot.

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oh shoot I forgot to link the other articles. This one is about the Rebels saying Assad is moving chemical weapons to Iraq and Lebanon. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0....html?ir=World

This is what we are sending them...http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...emical-weapons