The Secret Of The Soul - and OBE

[risveglio]

Posted by NoNeedToBeNamed (here)
OK. My really first post. Before of anything, sorry for my bad English.

I've been following PA for almost two years now and was avoiding to do any kind of commentary here because I think it is unsafe to participate of it. I was fearing to be put in same black list by TPTB or something. However this week I found out this thread and I am very impressed by its content, so that I did decide to act careless. sirdipswitch, as a rational person that I am (in fact, I am a mathematician), I have absolutely no reason to believe in nothing that you're saying. Yet I couldn't disagree with any one word you've spoken until now! Nor I think any of your supposedly recent acquired abilities impossible to have! LoL As a matter of fact, I realized people can achieve a higher state of being long time ago.

One of a few memories I retain from when I was a kid (believe it or not) is that final scene of the movie Little Buddha where Sidarta reaches enlightenment, that I watched, for sure, at random. That impressed me a lot during my childhood. I know it sounds stupid, but, besides that, I grew up watching a cartoon with this kind of holy knight described as "the man nearest to God". For some reason these words always ressonate deep within my heart and I thought they were meant to describe a state that every man should achieve. I'm not and never was a religious person, even though, maybe because of that, I asked to God at the age of eighteen, more or less, with true intent I believe, to not let me live the life of the ordinary people. I don't understand God's way, let's put it this way, but I haven't got what I wished for. Soon after that, I went study in a very prestigious university at my country and, since then, have dedicated almost ten years of my life to build a solid career. I'm actually succeeding in this goal but the truth is: I'm sad. I know that I'll live an ordinary life if I don't do nothing for a change and, worst, I feel like that I've decayed in some way.

When I came to know of PA I found out answers to many of my thoughts and feelings that I couldn't put into words before then. But, even if I've read and discovered about a lot of things, I wasn't in the mood to do this or that to, let's say, awaken. One of the main reasons was because things seemed to be too complicated to have some true value for me. Please people, don't misunderstand me. It isn't fear of hard work. It's actually part of my personal faith: as in math, elegance resides in simplicity. And a true way of living must be elegant! Besides that, I'm not interested in having a master, spiritual guide or anything alike, simply because none of them can answer to all of my questions!

It was in this state of spirit I found out this thread, where maybe a crazy old man says he is his own master (once High Self is himself), that he had achieved a higher state of being throwing away all the complicated stuff he had studied during his whole life, acting as a child to keep everything stupid simple! Probability tells me all of this cannot be just a coincidence. So, sirdipswitch, I thank you for your wholehearted obstinacy to try to teach us something, even if this then proves to be a truth just for you and mr.white. In respect to your efforts, I'll give a try to the things you are defending so far. Yesterday I bought the books Adventures Beyond The Body and The Secret Of The Soul at Amazon and should receive them until the end of September. Once I receive them, I'll start my reading and practice and will return here to share my own experience. I'm not going to use the PDF version of these books because they could have been modified. And Raduga's method will be my plan B, since a fellow said it can cause a distorted OBE.

For those still trying to get an OBE, I'd like to say that, as in math, sometimes it can be a real challenge to prove very simple statements. Nonetheless, it's always worth at the end. So keep trying with yours heads up! I also thank you all for the sharing of your experiences.

Cheers to all!

Cool, we can be experience partners. I am a slow reader. Pretty much only read for myself when I am on my porcelain throne.

[sirdipswitch]

Reading to a crowd while on the porcelain Throne, would IMO be a sign of their true Decipleship. ccccccc.

I call it the Throne of Contimplation. ccc.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I just counted how many books I've read on the can, my wife always complains I take way too long in there. This year so far: 4 Sitchen, 3 novels, book on reiki, book on sungazing and the holographic universe (again). Ten books! Not bad, about average. I don't read anywhere else unless its on screen. Oh yeah, I've read a few more books in PDF this year too, I think four. Fourteen books in eight months. Two a month. Easily my quoto my whole life. So, say 20 books a year times 45 years - 900 hundred books, hmmm I thought it be more....

Sorry about the side bar, but kinda interesting, no?

[sirdipswitch]

Hey Ernie!

risveglio started it, and then I added to it, so yer right on topic for the moment. ccc

Is interesting though, eh? Like to read?? cc. Have you found; Sacred-Texts DOT com yet? over 1900 books on there and most of them hundreds of years old. Went absolutely bonkers when I found it. I didn't come up for air for about 4 years.cc.

I installed a bookcase in my Throne Room, way back when I was first newlywed, and my pretty little Missus, was apalled, that I would do such a thing. cc. She got over it, and then stocked it with "girl books". grrr. ccc.

[NoNeedForAName]

Hello. I still haven't got the Buhlman's books, but I want to report what happened to me this week, since I promised to share my experience here trying to get an obe. I hope I don't sound too centered in myself because it's definitely not my point. Please warn me if that's the case.

Since the concepts of obe and lucid dreaming are related to me, I started to worry about remembering my dreams. I quite don't remember any of them at all in the last years of my life, such that is that to sleep has been meaning to me nothing more than to turn off at night. Off course it was not always this way, but it has been a constant since the beginning to middle period of my excessive rational education. The fact is that I could easily remember my dreams and even induce a state of sleep paralysis to myself when I was about twelve years old, maybe a bit older, by just taking a nap during the day! This way I had a much more lighter sleep at night. Anyway, back to that time, I avoided doing this in every way possible to me, because frequently during these sleep paralysis I met a human like thing with really cold eyes that creeped me out. It often disguised itself as my brother but I always knew it was not him because of those eyes. In the last of these dreams, let's say, I was in the middle of anywhere, fearing something, when I realized I was in one of these dreams. Immediately I turned back where I was to see that thing, with cold eyes and a despicable smile, sat down, watching me. The whole scenary changed and became orange color, with a mirrored and cracked ground and with a tower reaching the sky at the very far. I then mentally challenged that thing, for the first time, and it just stared to me, motionless. Then I woke up. I think this was one of the most strangest dreams I ever had, to say the least, but, according to Wikipedia,

"[Sleep paralysis] is often associated with terrifying visions (e.g., an intruder in the room), to which one is unable to react due to paralysis." ,

so let's not see here more than there is to be seen, at least not for now...

As a grown man, what did I do this week? I napped a few times after lunchtime to see what would happen!
As a result I had three sleep paralysis at night that I summarize just below!

08/26/2013 - First sleep paralysis
Shortly after I lie in my bed, I am lucid. I don't see anything and give an order to clarify my vision, without success. Trying to fight the jitters of that situation I hear a voice like that of my brother, that scares me a lot because of what I just said above and I almost wake up. I didn't understand what was said to me. Getting the grip on myself I still try to get out of body but it seems I just got to rotate my "body" around my belly button. I wake up with my cell phone ringing.

08/29/2013 - Second sleep paralysis
I'm once again at the sleep paralysis state. I try to get out of body but it seems just my legs are a bit free. Again everything is pitch black and I can't see anything. I start to say frenetically "I go to my HS now!" but, unfortunately, I don't believe in my own words, since I am still not out of body to see them take effect. I then ask my HS for help, although I know I should have demand it. What I hear then are crystal words that sounds like my brother! It says that I should take care of me trying to get out of body because I could hurt myself! An image of something like a foot above my abdomen followed this, halfway my belly button and the genital area, and then a bit of pain on that spot. I think then that I woke up, but everything was still quite dark and I couldn't move properly. I then hold myself in a chair next to my bed to really wake up. It was a dream inside another dream.

08/30/2013 - Third sleep paralysis
This time, soon I enter the sleep paralysis state, I say "in a loud tone" to all evil to get out of my way, 'cause I am of divine nature, once I am an immortal being of the highest order, and that I am there going to meet my HS. I think I'm a bit naive to say such a thing, but I say it anyway. I don't feel any fear and, because of this, I try to get out of body. Again I feel my legs are a bit free and I don't see anything. For a moment I think my legs are perpendicular to my body, with my feet pointing to the ceiling, and in the next instant I feel like I'm sitting in bed. Then I slide to what feels to be my living room, not walk, but slide. I continue to not see a thing but I insist and say "I go to my HS now!". Then I note a bright and white light where the window should be, but I don't feel that was a result of my command. Fearing things to be a bit out of control, I try to wake up, but instead of that I get an image of a really inviting beach, not populated, with a warm sun, white sand and a crystalline sea. I don't understand why I'm seeing that and I insist to wake up, this time succeding.

Well, I'm quite sure none of these dreams was an obe but I think they deserve some words here. I don't know why I keep hearing my brother's voice, since he is alive and well, thank goodness, but I will not let this gain body inside my thoughts! Simply this! I hope to receive my books very fast because I do not want my expectations to cool...

Thanks to listen to me.

[sirdipswitch]

This is what I replied in a PM to, NoNeedToBeNamed. Thought I would bring it in here for ya all to see.

Re: Lost post
Hi No Name!!!cc.

Repost! Was a great post that others should read. Every thing helps everyone. cc.

I found in reading it, that it was more Lucid Dream than OBE, and what was evident was a fear creeping into your experience, that should not be there. YOU my friend are an Immortal Being Of The Highest Order... and NOTHING can harm you. That is the only way to go Astral Traveling. Fearless!!! Immortal... can not be harmed... in any way! Period.

Remember... the Astral, is "instantly thought responsive", so anything you are thinking when you go in there, you will probably find. hmm. If you are going in fear, you will probly find something to "scare" you. cc. This is sposed ta be a happy, joyfull experience, yer goin ta meet your High Self!!!!!! Get yor "THINKING", and INTENTIONS" in order, before you go, and you will find a much better expeience when you do go out of body.

With... HS/Source... as YOUR protector... WHAT... should you fear???

When you go astral... the ONLY thing higher than YOU... is HS/Source!

Speaking of which, when you go there, always use words, not letters, as in HS, High Self.

HS, says nothing and could be anything. High Self is specific to you. High Self and not Higher Self. High Self means your Highest Self, and Higher Self could be some form of you on a lower level. You want your High Self, and nothing less. And then when you start to go there, go all the way. Don't stop half way wondering where you are going. ccc.

And go always in good Humor, and Love for all things. All the nasty little Gremlins, hate Love and good Humor. ccc.

Enjoy
bob


This just goes right back to basics, that I keep hammerin away at: "Insecurity, Confusion and Fear", will keep you from your High Self/Source, and could cause you to find all sorts of little Gremlins, when you do try to go there.

Happy, Joyfull, Loving. THIS is the absoluely thee most fun yer ever gonna have.

It "ain't" to be feared...

[sirdipswitch]

When you get out of body, a simple statement, as if you already possess the ability, and it's yours. Simple.

The simple statement, "I Go Now, To My High Self", and then believe it beyond "any" doubt. Without Fear!!! You are an "Immortal Being Of The Highest Order"... you get what you ask for!!! Just don't say it as a question, but a simple statement of fact, as if it already is!! Whatever it is!! Your HigH Self, will take care of you, and be your only instructor... when you tell it to. Guides and Angels, will only give what they think you need. We are above them, not below them!!

The common problem I see, is everyone wondering in there, without a clue as to where they are or what they are doing or what they should do. When you cross the line YOU are in control, and determine everything that will happen. You are Conscious in there... use it... learn to "think" on the fly, in there. Do you know how to "think"? Do you? Do you "know" why you are in there? Do you know what it is that YOU want to do in there? Do you just want to go in there and play with Gremlins? Or, do you wish to go see your High Self? THINK!! IN THERE!! We learn to think, in there, by first learning to think, out here. ccc. Think out here, why yer goin in there. And remember it is "instantly" thought responsive... in there. SIMPLE!!!

[danceblackcatdance]

hey guys i've still not made it out yet hah.. life been crazy, or just not allowed myself yet :D

altho had an awesome lucid dream a couple of weeks ago... woke up inside to find myself flying through orange and blue mist, realised i was dreaming / got all excited and just remembered to say 'i go to my high s...' and then woke up properly before i could finish, was cool tho!

[sirdipswitch]

Desire... dedication... perserverance... how much do you need to exhibit... to get out of body?

I've talked about this a few times, without really getting into specifics and now I'm going to get specific.

THIS... is how bad ya gotta want it... or it won't get done!!

THIS is DESIRE... and 100% dedication... to PERSERVERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

110 miles, from Havana, Cuba - Key West, Florida... SWIMMING for 53 HOURS to achieve her goal!!!

You can read about her here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post723540

THIS... is the very same kind of effort I put in to achieve my goal of getting out of body for the very first time... and it worked!!!

If you ain't puttin in this kind of effort... how can you possibly hope to achieve your goal?

Ya gotta want it...
Ya gotta believe that it's as natural as breathin...
Ya gotta quit tryin, and just do it...
Ya gotta know that your way will work, with single minded pupose, and not thinking about what else may work... if this don't!
Ya gotta not give yer HS opportunity to sit there sayin: "Gee, I wonder how many things he/she is gonna TRY?"

If Source... had no DESIRE, to play this game... IT, would have stopped...

a very long time ago.

[sirdipswitch]

I started this thread to make a point. I made it. I have stressed it. You missed it. I know this to be true, because not one of you have achieved the achievable. Had you understood the point of it, you would not be continuing with mindless chitter chatter, across this forum.

You need to watch this video to hear what he says and then go to Netflix and watch a movie called "Triangle", to understand the implications of TIME LOOP.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iADd0oUv8HU

[sirdipswitch]

Hey guess what???

I found that movie "Triangle", on U-Tube, so you can go there and watch it free, instead of netflix. ENJOY.

Oh ya, it's a spooky one so be prepared, and like it says at the start, if ya got a bad heart, ya probly shouldn't be watchin it. ccc. Hey!! I keep tellin ya I got a mean and evil nasty side!! ccc.

Best movie ever made showing Time Loop. cc.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5eFYVr6zGTQ

[NoNeedForAName]

Posted by risveglio (here)
Cool, we can be experience partners. I am a slow reader. Pretty much only read for myself when I am on my porcelain throne.

Hi @risveglio. Sorry for the late answer. I received my two books from Buhlman, "Adventures Beyond the Body" and "The Secret of the Soul", just today. I'll start reading the first of them now. Feel free to ask me anything about my impressions, practice, experience, etc. I'll try to answer them the best I can.

[Shamz]

Thank you Sir for recommending this movie and posting it out there... This is first time I saw that and loved it ... amazing storyline and director did good job filming it Kubrick's style ( The Shining )

I understood the story -- but why it kept happening to her ? Was Nature giving her chances to mend her ways...to treat her son more humanely ? when will it stop eventually ? Frickin mind twister movie
Much love

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Hey guess what???

I found that movie "Triangle", on U-Tube, so you can go there and watch it free, instead of netflix. ENJOY.

Oh ya, it's a spooky one so be prepared, and like it says at the start, if ya got a bad heart, ya probly shouldn't be watchin it. ccc. Hey!! I keep tellin ya I got a mean and evil nasty side!! ccc.

Best movie ever made showing Time Loop. cc.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5eFYVr6zGTQ

[MariaDine]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
I started this thread to make a point. I made it. I have stressed it. You missed it. I know this to be true, because not one of you have achieved the achievable. Had you understood the point of it, you would not be continuing with mindless chitter chatter, across this forum.

You need to watch this video to hear what he says and then go to Netflix and watch a movie called "Triangle", to understand the implications of TIME LOOP.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iADd0oUv8HU

.......................

A voice in the Desert !!!

[NoNeedForAName]

09/14/2013
I just received my books from Buhlman today. After lunch I started reading "Adventures Beyond the Body". I really liked the first part of the book, where the author relates his own experiences and concludes we humans have many vehicles, one of those is our physical body. Very enlightening his explanation. Since I just have slept for about 4-5 hours last night, I dozed off during my reading. Maybe because I was focused on the subject of obe, I started to feel some vibrations through my body and a bit of a buzz in my ears, both of which intensified when I payed more attention to the buzz in my right ear. I already have felt this sensations long before in my life, so I was calm. Even though, I tried to get even more calmer to force an obe, but I woke up during my try.

09/15/2013
I continue my reading of the book "Adventures Beyond the Body". I'm feeling quite comfortable with the day, since it is a really nice sunday's afternoon, with a bright blue sky here in my city. I decide to stop my reading to take a nap and force a ligher sleep at night, which increases my awareness sometimes. Since I was going to sleep I decided to try to hold of the affirmation "Now I go out of body" suggested many times in Buhlman's book. Again I felt the vibrations. This time they were weak than before, but uniform through my body and there was no buzz. I used another suggestion by Buhlman's trying to force a separation from physical body to first nonphysical body and imagine myself out of phase with the first. To my surprise I started to feel myself being unstick from my body, the last part of which was my belly button region. Then started an upward movement. It stopped one or two seconds later when I thought I'd hit the ceiling. I was very aware of what was happening, such is the case I remembered PA and proudly thought to myself: "Wow, I'm going to get an obe in just two days!" But then I decided to open my eyes, 'cause I was just feeling everything and not seeing anything. The result was that I opened my physical eyes and woke up... I was strangely feeling quite lighter after this and my mood became even better too. Let's see if tonight I get better results!

[sirdipswitch]

MariaDine!!!

A voice in the Desert !!!


Precisely how it feels at times. ccc. Thanx!!

[sirdipswitch]

And so the Mathmetician finds a bit of elegance in simplicity... cc.

Yep!! When you go in the simplicity of belief in what yer doin, you will find an elegance far beyond human language.

Do not fear the ceiling my friend, just go through it with the simple statment: "I GO NOW, TO MY HIGH SELF", and don't stop till ya get there. Don't get cold feet halfway there, wonderin where yer goin.

[risveglio]

Posted by NoNeedToBeNamed (here)
09/14/2013
I just received my books from Buhlman today. After lunch I started reading "Adventures Beyond the Body". I really liked the first part of the book, where the author relates his own experiences and concludes we humans have many vehicles, one of those is our physical body. Very enlightening his explanation. Since I just have slept for about 4-5 hours last night, I dozed off during my reading. Maybe because I was focused on the subject of obe, I started to feel some vibrations through my body and a bit of a buzz in my ears, both of which intensified when I payed more attention to the buzz in my right ear. I already have felt this sensations long before in my life, so I was calm. Even though, I tried to get even more calmer to force an obe, but I woke up during my try.

09/15/2013
I continue my reading of the book "Adventures Beyond the Body". I'm feeling quite comfortable with the day, since it is a really nice sunday's afternoon, with a bright blue sky here in my city. I decide to stop my reading to take a nap and force a ligher sleep at night, which increases my awareness sometimes. Since I was going to sleep I decided to try to hold of the affirmation "Now I go out of body" suggested many times in Buhlman's book. Again I felt the vibrations. This time they were weak than before, but uniform through my body and there was no buzz. I used another suggestion by Buhlman's trying to force a separation from physical body to first nonphysical body and imagine myself out of phase with the first. To my surprise I started to feel myself being unstick from my body, the last part of which was my belly button region. Then started an upward movement. It stopped one or two seconds later when I thought I'd hit the ceiling. I was very aware of what was happening, such is the case I remembered PA and proudly thought to myself: "Wow, I'm going to get an obe in just two days!" But then I decided to open my eyes, 'cause I was just feeling everything and not seeing anything. The result was that I opened my physical eyes and woke up... I was strangely feeling quite lighter after this and my mood became even better too. Let's see if tonight I get better results!

Thanks for the updates. I am about 3/4 done with the first book and have had some similar experiences. I think I am too anxious and the one time that I really felt like I was about to "pop", I thought about how others would see my body and everything just stopped. Have to stop doing that.

[sirdipswitch]

I have recieved a PM and friend request, from someone who is so full of questions that I decided to answer them here. cc.

This thread is not about me. It is not about what I do. I only tell you about me, as a spark for your very own imagination, so that you will begin to understand that which you may learn to do.

Going out of body... is NOT the goal of this thread. 24/7s' communion with your High Self/Source... is the goal. hmm. And that, my friends, is having God, sitting on your shoulder to talk with, "anytime" you should choose to do so. So... quit thinkin of what I do... and start thinking of that which You can do. What would you be talkin to God about everyday. Your HS/Source IS GOD. and YOU can once again, be one with IT.

So don't come here tryin to pick me apart with a million questions, cuz it ain't about me, it's about you... about who you are... what you are... what YOU wish to do... and all you need to get you there is 2 books... if you can't do it by those 2 books, then you probly ain't gonna get it done. simple... cc.

I only tell you some things I do, so that you will understand that A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G... IS P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E.

Strike the word impossible from your vocabulary... now how do you feel about life on earth? Now how's yer imagination? What can YOU think, to do? Do you just want to sit on rock alongside a stream and be peacefull with yerself all day? or conquer the world? or somethin in between somewhere? SOOOOOO MMMAAAANNNNYYY possiblities!!!!

It is YOUR game... play it how you will.

When YOU achieve 24/7 Communion with your HS, I promis... your life WILL change...

If someone had told me 5 years ago, what I would be doing today,

I would have ccccccccccccccccccccccMAO !!!



What's it like, havin HS sittin on yer shoulder 24/7s'?
Ain't enuff room on this computer, to describe it in mere human words........

[sirdipswitch]

Oh ya, did I leave out the peace part? What peace? Total peace!!! With everything. Even yourswelf. cc. (oops, sorry, my fingernail keeps hittin that dammmm W. ccc.)

I keep talkin about all the really cool powers yer gonna get, (if ya wantem) and forget the really cool peace yer gonna get. When you hook up with your HS/Source, total peace with everything comes as an unconditionally loving peace, as a natural byproduct of that union.

Just as my signature says: "Love, Peace, and Humor".. will be your natural order of every day from that time forward, when you make your conection to; "High Self/Source"!!!!! (That's the one some still call God.)

I got the name Source, from the Tibetan Buddas, who call IT, The Ever Unknowable Source Of All Creation. (hence) Source.

I no longer "pray" to anything... I talk personally with IT, through HS... which is my little piece of IT... to talk with whenever.

Just as YOU will do. AND you will finally understand what real peace, means!!!

So... why go OOB? Because it's the quickest way to that union. And the most fun. ccc.





Oh ya, and lest I forget again, do not stop to play in the astral realms, untill after you make that connection, or you may get trapped there, and never make your connection. cc. yep!