Latest from Project Camelot (Revelations from an EU Official - 23 Sep 2013 Interview)

[araucaria]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)

3) There must be lots of evidence of "Chinese all over Europe" studying the welfare systems. Can anyone confirm this?

4) The earth's gravity is increasing...? Even minute variations would be detected by all sorts of ongoing experiments and measurements - wouldn't it?

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I lived in Switzerland for several years prior to 2011, and several times traveled extensively in Germany, France, Holland, and Italy. Prior to that, I lived in the UK for many years until 2005. I barely, if ever, saw any Chinese. Of course, that observation is not up to date.

On the other hand, the Earth may be very gradually increasing in size -- though I agree with your comment about sensitive magnetometers. If our gravity is changing, it's changing quite imperceptibly. David Wilcock's insider source 'Daniel' told David, who told us, that this was known on the 'inside' but for some reason was regarded as classified information. And the author of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams, was also a (very intelligent!) proponent of the theory and helped it to gain ground for serious discussion.

Here's an animation:



Here's a summary of the theory:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_Earth

And here's a video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o6z8p4lzDnk

There are around half a million Chinese in France, about 40% living in and around Paris, including in Europe's biggest Chinatown.
The CHinese like to congregate, which means you might see none, or you might see a lot.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMWg18-ANlg

The expanding earth theory is easily visualized by Neal Adams, who shows how its land mass would have fitted together near perfectly when it was 55% of its present size. There are other videos examining local details, and still others transposing the phenomenon to other planets.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7kL7qDeI05U

[norman]

I sat up late reading the pdf before I eventually slept. I nearly wrote my response immediately but changed my mind.

I see Bill has got the main issues covered.

When I'd read it all, I thought, whaw what a great student of all this stuff, who's even a bureaucrat. He's done all the reading on the internet and very seriously put together his own best big picture. I do that too, and so do most of you also.

I wanted to re read it all so that I could separate the stuff he really knows from his guesswork based on what he's studied. I felt that Kerry had encouraged him to drift away from the solid stuff that was his own personal info towards something more like an 'over the garden wall' natter/gossip.

I can understand Kerry wanting to suss him out by throwing lots of gatherings in his direction. I would need to hear another interview with this guy after she's got the measure of him and then puts together a solid interrogation.

[Tommy]

Hi Bill,

Did you by any chance pass your observations on to Kerry? Cause I think it would help to clarify and possibly revise it if need be.

I have been to busy working in the past few days so I have not had time to properly go through it myself

Cheers

[Atlas]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This idea of a connection with Sirius of course is also promoted in UFOlogy (and by the African Dogon tribe!),...

By the time Temple had published the second edition of The Sirius Mystery in 1998, the whole question of the Dogon’s apparently inexplicable knowledge of Sirius had been blown apart. No-one had questioned Griaule and Dieterlen’s findings until the early 1990s. And this is where the problems for the hypothesis began.

In 1991, Van Beek led a team of anthropologists to Mali and declared that they found absolutely no trace of the detailed Sirius lore reported by the French anthropologists (The Dogon Restudied: A Field Evaluation of the Work of Marcel Griaule). Griaule claimed that about 15 per cent of the Dogon tribe possessed this secret knowledge, but Van Beek could find no trace of it in the decade he spent with the Dogon.

As Peter James and Nick Thorpe point out, Griaule took star maps along with him on his field trips as a way of prompting his informants to divulge their knowledge of the stars. Griaule himself was aware of the discovery of Sirius B and in the 1920s – before he visited the Dogon – there were also unconfirmed sightings of Sirius C. The Dogon were well aware of the brightest star in the sky but, as Van Beek learned, they do not call it sigu tolo, as Griaule claimed, but dana tolo. To quote James and Thorpe: “As for Sirius B, only Griaule’s informants had ever heard of it.”

Van Beek actually spoke to some of Griaule’s original informants; he noted that

“though they do speak about sigu tolo [interpreted by Griaule as their name for Sirius itself], they disagree completely with each other as to which star is meant; for some, it is an invisible star that should rise to announce the sigu [festival], for another it is Venus that, through a different position, appears as sigu tolo. All agree, however, that they learned about the star from Griaule.”

(Source: philipcoppens.com/dogonshame)

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In 2004, Van Beek wrote (Haunting Griaule: Experiences from the Restudy of the Dogon):

Griaule’s ethnography proved to be incoherent. Griaule’s later publications, which incidentally never could match his first success nor receive the wide circulation and renown of Ogotemmelli, depicted yet another Dogon culture. The posthumously published Le Renard pale (Griaule/Dieterlen 1956) and the articles leading up to it (Griaule 1954, Griaule/Dieterlen 1950) came up with even “deeper” myths, systems of classification, and a totally different creation story, at least with a totally different construction of the myth. These two sets of creation myths, of 1948 and 1956, are totally inconsistent with each other…

After years spent becoming accepted by the Dogon, Van Beek began to carefully expose them to the ideas that Griaule had “learned” from Ogotemmelli, only to have his Dogon friends burst out laughing! One of the major services is van Beek’s lengthy descriptions (with illustrations) of how Griaule came to create the myths of the Dogon himself (which were uncritically absorbed by Temple and passed on to the populace in his book). Basically, there was a good amount of cultural mis-communication.

The foundation of Robert Temple’s Sirius Mystery (and the nonsense that has accrued to it since its publication) consists of three conversations with one Dogon tribesman, Ogotemmêli, whose ideas differ from all subsequent Dogon elders interviewed to date. (Source: michaelsheiser.com/the-sirius-mystery)

As ought to have been obvious from the outset, Griaule and Dieterlen’s reliance on a single informant severely compromises the validity of their data. It seems that Griaule, a scientist, wanted to attribute to earlier civilisations more knowledge than they actually possessed.

According to Thomas Bullard, van Beek speculates that Griaule "wished to affirm the complexity of African religions and questioned his informants in such a forceful leading manner that they created new myths by confabulation." Griaule either informed the Dogon of Sirius B or "he misinterpreted their references to other visible stars near Sirius as recognition of the invisible companion"

Temple has never properly responded to these charges. In his latest book, The Crystal Sun, Temple briefly repeats his earlier claim that the Dogon knew Sirius A and B, and seems blissfully unaware of these criticisms. This is worse than pseudoscience. What do you call it when someone's error is pointed out - again and again and again - and they simply fail to acknowledge the criticism? (Source: grahamhancock.com/phorum)

[ThePythonicCow]

In this Interview, the EU official began one answer with these words:

Our whole solar system revolves around another star system which is Sirius. Now,
the models we have of planetary motion are not quite correct. The sun moves like a
comet around Sirius taking 26 000 years. 25 500 or so years – this is the so-called
Great Year.

That got me thinking a bit, and I have updated a Dec 2012 thread where we discussed such matters with my current thoughts on whether Sun and Sirius form a binary star: Next Friday every Friday, the combining thread -- Post #129.

[CD7]

So get back to the story that we are creating here. The interaction btw the off planet – the Atlanteans that are here, are they known as the Illuminati?

Hummmmm yes I felt it was a story

[norman]

Kerry is speaking to Mike Harris on the Rense Radio Network right now:

http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm



Edit:


Kerry didn't say much about the interview with the EU bureaucrat but she gave a slight hint that she's not fully convinced the guy was for real.

She did say some interesting stuff about Michael Hastings and about the Promise software.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by buares (here)

By the time Temple had published the second edition of The Sirius Mystery in 1998

http://projectavalon.net/Robert_Temp...us_Mystery.pdf

[Flash]

Much of that interview mentions things we already read if we are active here. However the twist is a bit different. We should stop anxieties, some changes are coming but they will be handled even when difficult , nature will recuperate at some point, we may , if we want, have a timeline helping the other four and moon/saturn will give us a slack. In other word, do your job, stop the fear, and all will be fine.

Possibly true, or possibly wanting us more quiet, with less will. Or truly we are on a good path, judt keep heading in that direction.

This Europe politician is for sure a relatively low level insider (lack of congruency in knowledge) or had his mouth tied shut.

One of the things he said that i had not read elsewhere is that Russia escaped the reptilians and china has a mix of contacts with other inner/outer races, including reptilians, and others. This might be right.

[norman]

Posted by norman (here)
Kerry is speaking to Mike Harris on the Rense Radio Network right now:

http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm

I recorded it and you can download it from here:


https://app.box.com/s/cd7d5ljzv5mq3xwh8py0

[Strat]

Definitely a must read. What I found interesting:

-Quite a bit of info corroborates with info Dan Burisch (sp?) put out. His name is mentioned a few times.

-The moon being used as a 'soul collector' was brought up. Allegedly it's a 'device' which puts out the white light. Head to it and your mind is wiped and you're back to square 1.

-St Germain is brought up. Haven't heard his name since Charles.

-He claims his message ideally should be presented in a positive manner which doesn't shock people. Apparently the show Fringe presents a similar message, but he doesn't like it as he feels it's negative.

-Alister Crowley is still alive and nutty but not a bad guy.

I've got Netflix so take a wild guess what I'm gonna watch after I post this reply.

[peterspm]

my computer keeps saying virus. gmail's solution is to update browser, i did, same.

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Kerry is speaking to Mike Harris on the Rense Radio Network right now:

http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm

I recorded it and you can download it from here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/cdcci3

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by norman (here)

She did say some interesting stuff about Michael Hastings and about the Promis software.

For the Camelot tribute page about Danny Casolaro, the journalist who broke the story about the PROMIS software -- and was 'suicided' -- read here:

http://projectcamelot.org/casolaro.html

Danny Casolaro, an aspiring novelist, freelance writer and investigative reporter looking into the theft of Project PROMIS software, a program capable of tracking down anyone anywhere in the world, died in August 1991, a reported suicide. Casolaro was also investigating Pine Gap, Area 51 and governmental bioengineering. His manuscript – tentatively entitled The Octopus and which would reveal a web of conspiracy involving everything from PROMIS to BCCI to Iran-Contra to the JFK assassination to the October Surprise – was missing from his room and has never been found.

For Casolaro, the Octopus presented a complex web of intrigue involving PROMIS; the inter-connection of various police services, intelligence agencies and organised criminal groups; and a large number of parapolitical operators, weapons brokers and deal-makers. All of this continues to have an impact on the post-9/11 world, with PROMIS figuring in many contemporary stories.

From a well-to-do family (his father, a doctor, had invested well in Northern Virginia real estate), he was 44 years old, divorced, and living comfortably on a five-acre estate in Fairfax County, Virginia – home to the CIA.

In the first week of August, Casolaro told friends and acquaintances that he was going to West Virginia too meet a source who would provide a key piece of evidence he needed to complete his investigation. He drove to Martinsburg, West Virginia, on Thursday, August 8, and checked into room 517 of the Sheraton Hotel. Two days later, at 12:51 p.m., hotel employees found his naked body in a bathtub full of bloody water. The time of death has been estimated at about 9.00 am. Both arms and wrists had been slashed a total of at least 12 times; one of the cuts went so deep that it had severed a tendon.

The hotel management called the Martinsburg police who brought along the local coroner, Sandra Brining, a registered nurse. Ms. Brining ruled the death a suicide, took small blood and urine samples, and released the body to the Brown Funeral Home. Without authorization from officials or Casolaro's next of kin, the funeral home embalmed the body as a "courtesy to the family", according to Brining's statement at an August 15 press conference in Martinsburg.

Martinsburg police notified the next of kin, Dr. Anthony Casolaro, also of Fairfax, of his brother's death on Monday, August 12. Casolaro says that police explanations for the delay, like the hasty, unauthorized and illegal embalming, seemed either extraordinarily inefficient or highly suspicious.

Further information: http://lukeford.net/profiles/profile...y_casolaro.htm

[norman]

Posted by peterspm (here)
my computer keeps saying virus. gmail's solution is to update browser, i did, same.

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Kerry is speaking to Mike Harris on the Rense Radio Network right now:

http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm

I recorded it and you can download it from here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/cdcci3

I don't know why?

I used to use Avast Antivirus and it was always giving me false positives for things that I tried to download. I had to dump Avast in the end because it was even locking down files on my hard drive and stopping my system from working.

Are you getting the warning as soon as you reach the download page, or is it after you download the file?

The file is a normal mp3 file that I made myself.

I know you will make your own decision but my advice to ignore the warning and just download it anyway. There's certainly no malware coming from my end.

[Camilo]

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[sigma6]

Posted by Strat (here)
Definitely a must read. What I found interesting:

-Quite a bit of info corroborates with info Dan Burisch (sp?) put out. His name is mentioned a few times.

-The moon being used as a 'soul collector' was brought up. Allegedly it's a 'device' which puts out the white light. Head to it and your mind is wiped and you're back to square 1.

-St Germain is brought up. Haven't heard his name since Charles.

-He claims his message ideally should be presented in a positive manner which doesn't shock people. Apparently the show Fringe presents a similar message, but he doesn't like it as he feels it's negative.

-Alister Crowley is still alive and nutty but not a bad guy.

I've got Netflix so take a wild guess what I'm gonna watch after I post this reply.

I give up cause I don't watch "television" I hear alot about these "TV shows" but that's it... DVD Movies for me, (haven't got Netflix yet) but the suspense is killing me LOL

I have to admit I am 50/50, it has some almost too ingenious stuff to come up with, but then again, it almost sounds too good to be true... (in a crazy way... I felt it just fit too many of my own conceptions? is that weird or what... I am calling it out because if fits my interpretation on things too well????)

[grannyfranny100]

Why does she always seem to push her views rather than pull the views of the interviewee? Is this her guerilla interview technique? IMO the most interesting parts where when he was presenting his worldview.

[sigma6]

fair point, it's a subtle balance to put things in a more questioning tone, phrasing it in such way that it doesn't feed 'context' to the interviewee...

she was definitely looking for a lot of confirmation on a lot of subjects. It would have been interesting to see her feed stuff like that slower to see what he would have extrapolated things with less context...

ahh... hindsight is 20/20

[GoodETxSG]

Of course be skeptical, it is wise with all of the dis-INFO flying around right now...

But IMHO and direct experience, this is one of the most important interviews to read/listen to in a long time. There are some "Golden Nuggets" all through out this interview. I would love to know the identity of this person though it would surely endanger his safety.

It is worth your time, listen to it twice!

[GoodETxSG]

Posted by Paul (here)
In this Interview, the EU official began one answer with these words:

Our whole solar system revolves around another star system which is Sirius. Now,
the models we have of planetary motion are not quite correct. The sun moves like a
comet around Sirius taking 26 000 years. 25 500 or so years – this is the so-called
Great Year.

That got me thinking a bit, and I have updated a Dec 2012 thread where we discussed such matters with my current thoughts on whether Sun and Sirius form a binary star: Next Friday every Friday, the combining thread -- Post #129.

It also got me thinking about a summary of an RV Session from 1989 that I was involved with that mentioned a giant blue star (w/giant blue gas giant planets) that our star rotated around, and in it I mentioned when entering back into the Sol system that the Sol system "looked like a comet"... W/the brown dwarf/Nibiru etc stuff going around that part of the RV has made zero since to me. It kind of popped in my mind when reading that portion of the interview. I think I sent that summary to Bill some months back... but it was just the strangest feeling when I read that even though it could be complete disinfo.