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    Default Re: Next Friday every Friday, the combining thread

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Quote from 'Daniel', David Wilcock's Montauk insider contact: (from the PDF linked here or here)
    Re: photon belt... in order to have a "belt," for example the asteroid belt, there needs to be some cohesion between the constituent parts. Photons do not gravitate--there is nothing to keep photons together, in a belt or otherwise. If there is a belt, it may emit photons but cannot be made of them.
    Though I agree with the thrust of that quote, and have said about as much myself here, I would:
    1. consider the electro-magnetic fields (EMFs) within plasmas as well as gravity, which EMFs are also unable to hold photons together, even as those plasmas can emit photons, and
    2. acknowledge that theories of black holes do involve the gravitational confinement of photons, though noting that no one is claiming that photon belt to be a "black (hole) belt" .
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    All righty then, let me add a few more pennies:

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
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    Photon BELT, eh?

    AFAIK, photons get disseminated all around light sources in a 360 spherical directions, straight path (except may be some gravitational influence but certainly no eletromagnetic interference)... considering the gazillions of stars from all galaxies all around pumping out these photons... and space is just filled up to the brim with these cats... therefore, herding those cats into a belt... good luck!
    As for where that "Photon Belt" IDEA came from, check this one here, from: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/963/is-the-earth-about-to-enter-the-photon-belt-causing-the-end-of-life-as-we-know-it:

    Quote What puzzled me was where the photon-belt story came from. The 1991 Nexus article was based on a 1981 article in an Australian UFO mag. I spoke to Colin Norris, head of the Australian UFO society that publishes the magazine, and he said it was coauthored by a "middle-aged mother" and a college undergraduate. Norris denied it was a prank, but it seems clear these folks didn't have detailed technical knowledge, unless of course they were on the horn with the guys from Sirius*.
    * That is: Virginia Essene and Sheldon Nidle claim[ing] to be "channeling" members of the "Sirian Council" beings from a distant planet
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    My point in this rambling is that this is not about new age physics versus old age physics. Bill in his studies and experiences, and myself in my studies, both, from what I can tell, are certain that there are truths in "new age" physics (e.g. - ET's, psychics, electric plasmas, astrology, alchemy, ...) that are beyond the reach of "old age" physics.
    And to this I would add, archeology, anthropology, and some biology. I see a real symbiosis within all of the disciplines, and they appear to at least be converging into one discipline, which remains “unnamed”. Most of these disciplines fall into the “Science” part of the equation (or balance) whereas the “Spiritual” side has fewer descriptors, such as alchemy and energetics.

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    Rather this is about knowing in one's bones that there is an underlying truth, and remaining committed to seek out and act in accordance with that truth, even as we realize how flimsy our efforts might be at times.
    Yes, and to that, I am introducing Dr Schuesslers mineral cell salts into my daily protocol, so as to help the oils from the pineal gland to activate and stimulate the other glands, so that the oil can return to my cerebrum and wake up my higher mind. (may start a thread on this when I've read the book and have some data)

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    I sense that some of the key instigating purveyors of 2012 apocalypticism lacked that commitment. Perhaps, as others have suggested, they were too stoned out of their gourds to spell such words.
    All the shenanigans of the hooligans are based in the lower mind of the cerebellum. That’s the cognitive aspect of the deception. In the energy body, it’s the lower chakras in their discordant state of unbalanced emotions of fear in the first, anger in the second, and grief in the third That’s what the Archon’s are stimulating in the collective. They hit a “bull’s eye” on the grief they siphoned off from the collective with their child massacre in broad daylight, then rolling out the repeat descriptors in the media, right before Christmas.

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    I would urge others not to let an apparent, but superficial, endorsement of new age physics be a criteria by which one chooses what to consider further. Look beneath the surface, for the ceaseless striving for core structural integrity.
    And this is why I keep bringing all science and spirituality down to the basic component which unites at the core, these two categorical perspectives, and that is energy. How it works and what influences do we individually, as a collective, and all the other huge masses in the universe have on the “timeline”, (to use a word which has been coined here and elsewhere) and how does the physical universe change according to these influences.

    It’s a process of distillation, where those things which no longer fit into a totally unified paradigm, are discarded. This happens quite frequently here at Avalon, and sometimes it can get ugly when we are tearing down the castles we have built around ourselves, even as the mote is being drained and the evil is right at the front door. It’s also challenging to “live and let live” when the battering rams are beating down the front door.

    There are those who say, those Archon’s need to be given amnesty and enfolded into the field, while there are others who say they are devoid of empathy and are incorrigible psychopaths. WE know they control all of the tangible assets of on the planet, when faced with a fiat debt system where 80% of all capital flows into the 1%. That’s the scarcity paradigm and won’t get solved till free energy is released. However you perceive that, it’s the technology the Archon’s have which is 100 years superior to that released into the public sector, that’s the energy they are withholding.

    So, if they hold all the energy in the matrix, and control it, what’s left? It’s the energy of each individual as a collective. It is obvious to me that the Archon’s are amping up their efforts to continue to extract as much of this energy in order to keep the resonance at a certain frequency. They damn well know how to manipulate the frequency of the collective psyche. To mind control a young man and use him as a patsy to slaughter innocent children in broad daylight, they’re getting pretty arrogant. We here at Avalon don’t need another example.

    So, I sense the urgency in Bill: that we are facing the most despicable and arrogant Archonic forces in all areas of our society, and they almost have a complete lock on us. Fascism and slavery is just around the corner unless we as a collective remain diligent, doing our due diligence, and acting in the highest integrity we can. Sometimes I think we don’t know the half of what they are capable of. Sometimes I think Bill does, but he can’t say.

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    Even as my specific views in so many subjects keep changing, sometimes in quite radical ways over the years, I remain convinced that we can understand, with a disciplined consistency. Words have meanings, and those meanings, those concepts behind our words, deserve to be built with as much clarity and consistency as we can muster, even as we are well aware that those concepts, like the images in the artists mind, and those words, like the paints on his brush, are but pale and ever shifting facsimiles of what is.
    Very well said. This has been, and is, one of the best threads so far for 2013. Ya see, we can’t put a finger on it and pin it to an exact date or an exact event, but we can tear down the lies and “bring it” when it comes to truth. Learning when to speak and when to keep my mouth shut is an art. So is being as erudite as possible when speaking, especially in forums where one has to pick up on the energy of the poster, since the advantages of “in person” voice inflection, timber, tone and body language are not available.

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Do you realize guys/gals, that we may be actually doing, in an open public ground and group undertaking, the first ever workable combination of new science, old science (astrology and alchemy), spirituality, behaviors and biology, all this for an overall understanding of change in humanity. (I am aware that some may have done it individually).
    Yes, I do. It’s quite exciting and I hope I never take it for granted.

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Once I understood the origins of time/space/gravity..which is really just a few more items added (observational position is changed)..and then it becomes very simplistic. once I understood that, all the problems ......go away. It is a cascading aspect, to be sure, but the issues of understanding the frameworks of human 'existence' or 'observational position/vector' do indeed go away.
    So I take this to understanding that we have more senses than just the 5 physical senses, from which to “feel” energetically a broader reality? This locality of observation, and how it affects the total matrix of energy, is the spiritual aspect? A realization, or an “aha” moment, integrates all of the 12 bodily systems, is capable of rewiring the synapses in our brain between the hemispheres, opens up to the more subtle senses, and changes the energetic structure of the body. Yes, that is how strong beliefs are and our point of observation. Our bodies are transceivers, and it depends on the station we are tuned into, and the music which is being played on that station.

    I better end this post now. Sorry for the length. It’s Christmas Eve and I want to set a clear intention for the New Year.
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    Default "2012 A-Z" - A Galaxial Event of Disneyesque Proportion



    Everything you wanted to know about '2012' but didn't know to ask.

    Heard of the Photon Belt? Pole Shift? Precession of Equinoxes?
    Nibiru, Solar Storms, The Mayan Calendar or Biblical Prophecy?

    With over 30 yrs in Radio & TV Broadcasting, Boulder Professor Marc "The Arcturian", takes you on this Galaxial Tour in:
    "The Most Comprensive 60 Minutes On "2012" Ever Assembled"

    Over 4G/1,200 Photos, Clips, Animations, Slides and SFX went into this video of Disneyesque Proportion even Bill didn't know you could make when you let a deranged professor play with his PowerPoint2010 60 Day Trial Version for three months!
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    Default Re: "2012 A-Z" - A Galaxial Event of Disneyesque Proportion

    all the doom and gloom has only one hour and twenty minutes to show up ... I guess we will have to be happy...
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    Intriguing and controversial video, it is the subject of 7 pages of intense discussion in this thread.

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    Everything you wanted to know about '2012' but didn't know to ask.
    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    Intriguing and controversial video, it is the subject of 7 pages of intense discussion in this thread.
    Good catch, Rahkyt. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Next Friday every Friday, the combining thread

    You can see a photon belt any time at your local cinema. In the home movie variety you can even stand up and become a shadowy part of the film being projected

    However to entertain the possibility of a donut shaped light beam of this kind begs the question of its source. Any source would have to be perpendicular, like a smoker blowing smoke rings or a dolphin blowing bubble rings.

    So, while I agree with the above posts, there just might be a mechanism behind this strange creature

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Whether this 26,000 year cycle is best explained as a wobbly earth (precessing like a child's top) or whether it is better explained as the entire solar system orbiting around a shared center of gravity with some other such large mass (perhaps the dog star Sirius) is subject to some debate. The later possibility would mean that our sun was part of a binary star system, which is fairly common.
    There may be a better way of looking at this. The key question might best be put as this:
    Is this 26,000 year precession an earth wobble, or a solar system wobble?

    The answer could be found by looking at the other planets in the solar system. Presumably they each have some non-zero inclination that is well known by now to astronomers, just as earth does. Do all the planets precess in synchrony with earth? If so, that's not each planet wobbling independently; rather it is the solar system rotating en masse. I have not seen (though perhaps because I don't know where to look) any data, or even discussion, on the precession of the other planets in our solar system.

    Then, if (as my intuition suspects is likely) the entire solar system is rotating, relative to our galaxy, on a 26,000 (approximate) year cycle, the next question becomes how does this rotation relate to other nearby stars such as Sirius, Alcyone and the other stars in the Pleiades cluster, Alpha Centauri, and such. There is motion, relative to the background of further away stars and galaxies, between these nearby stars and earth, sufficient to change such things as (1) which visible star is nearest the north pole and (2) the alignment of shafts in the Great Pyramid to nearby stars (the shafts had several alignments about 2450 BC, which have drifted out of alignment now).

    This motion amongst our sun and nearby stars might just be the relative differences of entirely independent orbits of each such star, or closely related star coupling (such as Sirius A, B and C or such as the Pleiades cluster), around the galactic core, or this motion might involve cyclic interactions between the stars near us. Current conventional astronomy has our sun being too far away from any other star to form an ordinary binary star coupling using just gravity; but such conventional astronomy might not know all that is happening in the "heavens."

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    P.S. -- For more details and evidence supporting my intuition that this is a solar system wobble, and that it involves interactions with other nearby stars or large masses, see Is the Sun Part of a Binary Star System? - Six Reasons to Consider (Signs Of The Times).

    Here's a key quote from that article:
    So any planets or other objects within the Solar System do not appear to precess with respect to the Earth. The only objects that follow precessional movement are those outside the Solar System. If this is the case, then precession cannot be due to this top-like motion that the Lunisolar Theory dictates.
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