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    Shutting-er-Down

    Quote CNN Breaking News BreakingNews@mail.cnn.com via ema3lsv06.turner.com
    9:04 PM (9 minutes ago)

    to textbreakingne.
    After a day of the Republican-controlled House and Democratic-controlled Senate playing chicken over a spending bill that would keep the government running, neither side blinked and the White House ordered federal government agencies to begin shutting down, furloughing thousands of workers and curtailing some services for the first time in nearly 18 years.

    The Senate twice on Monday stripped House amendments from the spending bill and sent it back to the House. As the clock struck midnight, the House was debating a procedural move to appoint negotiators for a conference committee to try to work out differences between the two chambers. But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid rejected that move even before it left the House, saying, "We will not negotiate with a gun to our head.

    President Barack Obama delivered a message to members of the military over Armed Forces Television that they would get what they needed to carry out their

    mission and that they would get their paychecks as scheduled. To Department of Defense civilians and government contractors, his message was less certain: "You and your families deserve better than the dysfunction we're seeing in Congress," Obama said. Follow complete coverage of the shutdown on CNN TV, CNN.com and CNN Mobile.
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    Oh, I almost forgot . . .
    This is important!

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    Couldn't Resist! LOL

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    Oh NO... The Government shut down. How will we ever change our poopy little diapers without
    the Great and Powerful OZ. Everyone relax. This is only political theater.The real fight is
    in 2 weeks. "The Debt Ceiling" (Our ability to borrow MONEY) If they cant reach an agreement
    on that one? It's time to start worrying.

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    I guess its okay for me to post anything I want because the NSA is on furlough?
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    GOP has already rewritten one that will go through, there are only 30 tea party members that refuse to allow anything to go through without disrupting the healthcare coming in January.

    the GOP is about to break the news to the tea party that they don't matter, they are moving forward without them...

    the new funding will pass with an overwhelming majority.

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    Quote Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
    Oh, I almost forgot . . .
    This is important!

    Attachment 23031

    Couldn't Resist! LOL

    They must be loving the GOP, for NASA's 55th anniversary they all get an extended vacation... woo hoo!!!

    uh oh, didn't we have an astroid approaching NASA needed to keep their eyes on?

    no worries...

    the tea party will sit around singing kumbaya and pray for us...

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    So what will happen if congress vote against raising the debt ceiling?
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    Quote Posted by Positive Vibe Merchant (here)
    So what will happen if congress vote against raising the debt ceiling?
    The stock market could tank possibly.The US credit rating will be down
    graded again. Worse case scenerio would probably be Depression
    But since most of us are already living this reality it wont hurt to much lol

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    Default Re: US Government shutdown, Tuesday Oct 1, 2013

    175 Republicans are ready to vote yes on moving forward without the blackmail, 200 Democrats are ready to say yes when they do...

    30 die hard tea partiers celebrating the win of a lifetime shutting down the US tonight, tomorrow will wake up to a new reality, GOP has clicked mute...

    it really isn't as bad as most people think and it can miraculously get signed by midnight tomorrow...

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    I just wish that what followed were the petition signing to recall all of the members of Congress. Every single one of them.

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    This is basically just an illusion to usher in an economic false flag fear and panic inducing event......and to keep the agenda 21 affordable health care act moving forward.

    Quote Obama on Monday said, “The Affordable Care Act is moving forward. That funding is already in place. You can’t shut it down.”
    "Government Shutdown" is just a cover label and lie to what's really going on.....all the big players will still get paid and all the big ABC agencies will remain operational and active. (especially DHS, NSA, and FEMA)

    If it was a real government shutdown all politicians, agencies, etc would be ordered to go home without pay, but in reality what we are seeing is a complete lie and a designed maneuver to once again manipulate the masses.

    Without a false flag event to rock the economy, people will see that this "shut down" has absolutely no effect and means little (with perhaps 99.9% of the actual gov.), it will only "affect" pockets of "civilians".....that they now can't get a gun permit, wander around in national parks, lay offs, and still must prepare for ObamaCare.

    It's all by design folk's, watch for a scare tactic soon to trick the masses in to believing this shutdown is a disaster!

    Added: They should be calling this shutdown, "Sequester: Phase 2"

    Quote se·ques·ter transitive verb \si-ˈkwes-tər\
    : to keep (a person or group) apart from other people

    law : to take (property) until a debt has been paid
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    Full Definition of SEQUESTER

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    a : to set apart : segregate <sequester a jury>
    b : seclude, withdraw <widely spaced homes are forbiddingly grand and sequestered — Don Asher>
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    a : to seize especially by a writ of sequestration
    b : to place (property) in custody especially in sequestration
    3
    : to hold (as a metallic ion) in solution usually by inclusion in an appropriate coordination complex
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    Quote Posted by jagman (here)
    Oh NO... The Government shut down. How will we ever change our poopy little diapers without
    the Great and Powerful OZ. Everyone relax. This is only political theater.The real fight is
    in 2 weeks. "The Debt Ceiling" (Our ability to borrow MONEY) If they cant reach an agreement
    on that one? It's time to start worrying.
    This political theater comes directly out of my paycheck..... this does effect people, I'm shutting down my office right now; the offical "go home" time is 1200 est for all workers.


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    This is basically just an illusion to usher in an economic false flag fear and panic inducing event......and to keep the agenda 21 affordable health care act moving forward.

    Quote Obama on Monday said, “The Affordable Care Act is moving forward. That funding is already in place. You can’t shut it down.”
    "Government Shutdown" is just a cover label and lie to what's really going on.....all the big players will still get paid and all the big ABC agencies will remain operational and active. (especially DHS, NSA, and FEMA)

    If it was a real government shutdown all politicians, agencies, etc would be ordered to go home without pay, but in reality what we are seeing is a complete lie and a designed maneuver to once again manipulate the masses.

    Without a false flag event to rock the economy, people will see that this "shut down" has absolutely no effect and means little.....except that they now can't get a gun permit, wander around in national parks, and still must prepare for ObamaCare.

    It's all by design folk's, watch for a scare tactic soon to trick the masses in to believing this shutdown is a disaster!
    not a disaster, well not if you budget right, but loosing money for a few hundred thousand people who count on it is not really "nothing".

    it's not the end of the world either of course..
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by jagman (here)
    Oh NO... The Government shut down. How will we ever change our poopy little diapers without
    the Great and Powerful OZ. Everyone relax. This is only political theater.The real fight is
    in 2 weeks. "The Debt Ceiling" (Our ability to borrow MONEY) If they cant reach an agreement
    on that one? It's time to start worrying.
    This political theater comes directly out of my paycheck..... this does effect people, I'm shutting down my office right now; the offical "go home" time is 1200 est for all workers.


    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    This is basically just an illusion to usher in an economic false flag fear and panic inducing event......and to keep the agenda 21 affordable health care act moving forward.

    Quote Obama on Monday said, “The Affordable Care Act is moving forward. That funding is already in place. You can’t shut it down.”
    "Government Shutdown" is just a cover label and lie to what's really going on.....all the big players will still get paid and all the big ABC agencies will remain operational and active. (especially DHS, NSA, and FEMA)

    If it was a real government shutdown all politicians, agencies, etc would be ordered to go home without pay, but in reality what we are seeing is a complete lie and a designed maneuver to once again manipulate the masses.

    Without a false flag event to rock the economy, people will see that this "shut down" has absolutely no effect and means little.....except that they now can't get a gun permit, wander around in national parks, and still must prepare for ObamaCare.

    It's all by design folk's, watch for a scare tactic soon to trick the masses in to believing this shutdown is a disaster!
    not a disaster, well not if you budget right, but loosing money for a few hundred thousand people who count on it is not really "nothing".

    it's not the end of the world either of course..
    Sorry to hear your taking a hit due to this TargetT, I edited my post as I meant the fat cats in DC it means nothing to, not people like you and I, (civilians) specifically "non-essential" people.

    I'm sure they'll make the masses suffer here and there to pound their agenda home a bit so to speak....many are waking up to these DC games and illusions....I'm really sensing that this will have some blowback to many polticians and to the Obama administration.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by jagman (here)
    Oh NO... The Government shut down. How will we ever change our poopy little diapers without
    the Great and Powerful OZ. Everyone relax. This is only political theater.The real fight is
    in 2 weeks. "The Debt Ceiling" (Our ability to borrow MONEY) If they cant reach an agreement
    on that one? It's time to start worrying.
    This political theater comes directly out of my paycheck..... this does effect people, I'm shutting down my office right now; the offical "go home" time is 1200 est for all workers.


    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    This is basically just an illusion to usher in an economic false flag fear and panic inducing event......and to keep the agenda 21 affordable health care act moving forward.

    Quote Obama on Monday said, “The Affordable Care Act is moving forward. That funding is already in place. You can’t shut it down.”
    "Government Shutdown" is just a cover label and lie to what's really going on.....all the big players will still get paid and all the big ABC agencies will remain operational and active. (especially DHS, NSA, and FEMA)

    If it was a real government shutdown all politicians, agencies, etc would be ordered to go home without pay, but in reality what we are seeing is a complete lie and a designed maneuver to once again manipulate the masses.

    Without a false flag event to rock the economy, people will see that this "shut down" has absolutely no effect and means little.....except that they now can't get a gun permit, wander around in national parks, and still must prepare for ObamaCare.

    It's all by design folk's, watch for a scare tactic soon to trick the masses in to believing this shutdown is a disaster!
    not a disaster, well not if you budget right, but loosing money for a few hundred thousand people who count on it is not really "nothing".

    it's not the end of the world either of course..
    TargeT, Wrong choice of words on my part. Sorry. I should have said
    most wont be affected.

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    Quote Posted by jagman (here)

    TargeT, Wrong choice of words on my part. Sorry. I should have said
    most wont be affected.
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

    Sorry to hear your taking a hit due to this TargetT, I edited my post as I meant the fat cats in DC it means nothing to, not people like you and I, (civilians) specifically "non-essential" people.

    I'm sure they'll make the masses suffer here and there to pound their agenda home a bit so to speak....many are waking up to these DC games and illusions....I'm really sensing that this will have some blowback to many polticians and to the Obama administration.

    No hard feelings on my part, just trying to bring the full picture back into focus; for the most part you guys are right.

    Looking at my agency and seeing who is deemed "essential" and who is not makes it clear: the upper crust (even at the "lower levels") won't be affected by this, this shut down is designed to put pressure on the "common man" which makes congress's actions just that much more out-of-touch with their constituency.

    Personally, I don't mind a few days off, I have quite a few projects that need attention at home; I just hope it lasts at least until Monday so I get the weekend off too
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    I don't think I will entertain the idea of a Government job for awhile. Go figure, part of what is considered ESSENTIAL Government is NSA Spying!!!

    Quote On Friday, the Defense Department released its plans for dealing with a potential shutdown. In a memo, intelligence and surveillance programs were listed as essential duties of the department not be affected by a shutdown
    Every single American, should be enraged by this. Folks who were 'essential' Yesterday, are not 'essential' today. But the spy program lives on!!!

    Are their Americans here who still believe that the US government is looking out for their best interests???

    My opinion,,, if they are ALL so inept that they cant keep the government running, then they should all be fired. A vote that ends up in a Shutdown of government, should also carry a penalty of losing your government job. I just watched Obama smiling and laughing and waving,,, then takes the 'stage' and dawns his 'gloomy president' look.

    I am Cherokee,,, I love this land. American Indians lived on this continent for upwards of ten thousand years,,, without a single Republican or Democrat,,,,
    Can you believe that??? Tens of thousands of years, without a single Government Shutdown!!!

    My understanding was that our Founding Fathers, and the many settlers came to America to escape GOVERNMENT control.

    Where do we run to now, America??? Where is the new NEW world,

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    Default Re: US Government shutdown, Tuesday Oct 1, 2013

    Perhaps unrelated, but I have been unable to access my (US chartered) bank for online banking for last 3 hours, for the claimed reason of 'scheduled maintenance.'

    I figured it would be up by start of regular biz hours but so far that is not the case.
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