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    Default Ladies in the Water and Sleeping Angels: Big Pharma and Recent Celebrity Deaths

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    Michael Jackson,
    Whitney Houston,
    Jasmin de Grazia.

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    At first glance, it might be difficult to understand the connection between these names. Many of you will know that the first two were famous African American singers, and the similarities between their respective deaths are haunting enough. But what of former Argentine model and journalist Jasmin, and why is she included in this list?
    All three of these performers were taking pharmaceutical drugs under the supervision of doctors, drugs that are known to affect the ability of a human being to achieve REM sleep, or "rapid-eye-movement" sleep, which occurs at the almost-deepest stages of sleep and accounts for one's dream life.

    In the cases of Jasmin and Whitney, the synchronicities can't be avoided. These precious girls were found dead only a week apart, each drowned in the bath. Each was taking a deadly doctor-ordered cocktail of antidepressant drugs known to affect the REM state of certain individuals, mostly women.

    Michael Jackson allegedly died in bed, but he too was being administered a dangerous drug that not only affected REM but outright deprived him of it, causing a body-taxing deficit of essential sleep.

    I wanted you guys to know, especially in the light of the Rodney King drowning as well, that these deaths could have and should have been avoided. That Jasmin and Whitney died within days of each other was a horrific shock to me. That they both died in the bathtub under mysterious circumstances was also shocking. But the real surprised was that it was their own doctors who contributed to their untimely deaths.

    I could not help but hear the maidens' cry, the sad low song of the mourning dove. These spirits, in what form and by what vehicle I know not, came to me and impressed upon me the injustice of their eternal youth. I just KNEW.

    And the research made it real to me.

    Quote http://www.voxxi.com/argentine-model...-repeat-mujer/

    Drugs were found in the place (cocaine and clonazepam) according to a report by the Argentine Federal Police

    Read more: http://www.voxxi.com/argentine-model...#ixzz2ehUfp1mr

    Clonazepam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    While benzodiazepines induce sleep, they tend to produce a poorer quality sleep than natural sleep. Benzodiazepines such as clonazepam suppress REM ..
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    Quote http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitne...-bathtub-body/

    No illegal drugs have been found in the hotel room where Whitney Houston died -- at least not yet -- but prescription drugs were present, and it's possible the singer drowned in the bathtub ... TMZ has learned.

    Rx drugs reportedly killed Houston, but officials still probing possible ...
    http://www.foxnews.com/.../whitney-h...owne...‎
    Feb 13, 2012 - Relatives of late pop icon Whitney Houston have reportedly been told by coroner officials that the singer died from what appears to be a ...


    Does Xanax improve or reduce the quality of sleep? - Yahoo!7 Answers
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    Sep 8, 2010 - Past that Xanax will drastically reduce the amount of time spent in N3 and it will delay entrance into REM. Over time people may simply stop ...
    Quote Expert: Michael Jackson went 60 days without real sleep - CNN.com
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/21/showbi...ial/index.html
    Jun 24, 2013 - Propofol disrupts the normal sleep cycle and offers no REM sleep, yet it leaves a patient feeling refreshed as if they had experienced genuine ...

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    hey tesla, lately ive been thinking the 27 club is really for those who turned down the PTW...anyone else looking into the correlation?
    unite, alright
    you know one thing about music? when it hits, you feel no pain!

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    hello Sway!

    I had to look that up to see what you meant, but omg, that is very strange.
    It's kind of like Junior Seau and the 55 club... most of those guys died weirdly too.

    Not to mention the 36 club including Princess Diana and Sage Moonblood Stallone

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    In regards to Aaron Alexis, who was on the drug Trazadone, I wanted to share the following information

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1427983/

    Br J Clin Pharmacol. 1983 August; 16(2): 139–144.
    PMCID: PMC1427983
    Trazodone enhances sleep in subjective quality but not in objective duration.
    I Montgomery, I Oswald, K Morgan, and K Adam
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    Abstract

    Nine volunteer poor sleepers, of mean age 61 years, took trazodone 150 mg nightly for 3 weeks, preceded by 2 weeks and followed by 1 week of matching blanks, in order to examine the effects of electrophysiologically-recorded and subjectively-rated sleep. The second of the initial weeks of matching blanks served as a baseline week. In the subjective ratings, sleep improved in quality on trazodone, significantly so in the first and second weeks of intake, though with significant rebound insomnia on the second withdrawal night. Trazodone halved the frequency of arousals interrupting sleep, and it reduced the time spent in stage 1 (drowsiness). It increased the duration of slow-wave sleep (stages 3 + 4), with a negative rebound following withdrawal. It reduced the time spent in REM sleep, with a rebound above baseline levels after withdrawal. Trazodone did not change total sleep duration, nor the time required to fall asleep. The effects of trazodone were sustained or became enhanced during the period of intake. They persisted for over 24 h after the last dose, and rebound effects were maximal on the second withdrawal night.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation

    This rat is being deprived of restful REM sleep by an animal researcher using a single platform ("flower pot") technique. The water is within 1 cm of the small flower pot bottom platform where the rat lies. At the onset of REM sleep, the exhausted rat will either fall into the deep water only to clamber back to its pot to avoid death from drowning, or his/her nose will become submerged into the water startling him/her back to an awakened state.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_eye_movement_sleep

    REM deprivation causes a significant increase in the number of attempts to go into REM stage while asleep. On recovery nights, an individual will most likely to move to stage 3 and REM sleep more quickly and experience a REM rebound, which refers to a great increase in the time spent in REM stage over normal levels. These findings are consistent with the idea that REM sleep is crucial and perhaps the most important stage of sleep. [27]

    After the deprivation is complete, mild psychological disturbances, such as anxiety, irritability, hallucinations, and difficulty concentrating, may develop and appetite may increase. There are also positive consequences of REM deprivation. Some symptoms of depression are found to be suppressed by REM deprivation; Interest in sex and general pleasure seeking activity, aggression, and eating behavior may increase. [28]

    Animal studies of REM deprivation are markedly different than human studies. There is evidence that REM sleep deprivation in animals has more serious consequences than in humans. This may be because the length of time animals have been REM deprived for is much longer than humans. Evidence suggests that REM deprivation in rats impairs learning of new material, but does not affect existing memory. In one study, rats did not learn to avoid a painful stimulus after REM deprivation as well as they could before the deprivation. No learning impairments have been found in humans undergoing one night of REM deprivation. REM deprivation in rats produces an increase in attempts to enter REM, and after deprivation, REM rebound. In rats, as well as cats, REM sleep deprivation increased brain excitability (e.g. electrical amplification of sensory signals), and which lowered the threshold for waking seizures threshold. This increase in brain excitability seems to be similar in humans. One study also found a decrease in hindbrain sensory excitability. The hindbrain was less receptive overall to information in the afferent pathway, because of the increase in the amplification of those pathways that it is receptive to.

    Ultimately, REM deprivation in rats is fatal. One of the main symptoms during this time was hypothermia, despite observable effects to increase heat production (e.g., by eating). This has led to the hypothesis that the function of REM is to prevent heat loss. This is interesting because one of the state characteristics of REM is loss of thermoregulation.[29]

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    Near Death Experience and REM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-de...ence#REM_state

    REM state[edit source | editbeta]
    It is suggested that the extreme stress caused by a life threatening situation triggers brain states similar to REM sleep and that part of the near death experience is a state similar to dreaming while awake.[74] People who have experienced times when their brains behaved as if they were dreaming while awake are more likely to develop the near death experience. Further stimulation of the Vagus nerve during the physical and/or psychological stress of a life threatening situation, or the product of the imperiled brain, and may trigger brain conditions where the person is in a dream-like state while awake.[75][76][77][78]

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    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/18/sh...iref=obnetwork

    Cop: Detective gawked at Whitney Houston's naked corpse
    By Alan Duke, CNN
    September 18, 2013 -- Updated 2243 GMT (0643 HKT)

    Los Angeles (CNN) -- A police officer removed a sheet covering Whitney Houston's naked corpse and remarked, "Damn, she's still looking good, huh?" according to another officer at the scene.
    The accusation against the Beverly Hills Police detective was revealed in a labor dispute filing made last week by Brian Weir, who was the senior patrol sergeant called to Houston's hotel room after she was found dead in a bathtub on February 11, 2012.
    Weir claims the Beverly Hills police chief and others retaliated against him when he complained about the alleged actions of Det. Sgt. Terry Nutall at the death scene on the fourth floor of the Beverly Hilton Hotel.

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    http://us.cnn.com/2013/10/04/politic...html?hpt=hp_c2

    Source: Schizophrenia meds found at home of Miriam Carey after Capitol chase
    By Michael Pearson. Lateef Mungin and Joe Johns, CNN
    updated 1:26 PM EDT, Fri October 4, 2013


    Quote Authorities who searched Carey's apartment in Stamford found risperidone, a medication to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, a law enforcement source said. They also found escitalopram, an antidepressant commonly prescribed under the brand name Lexapro, according to the source.
    Risperidone is a HORRIFIC drug, and so is Celexa.
    They gave me Celexa in 2008 and it made me TOTALLY insane.

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    http://www.infowars.com/d-c-cops-run...itol-shooting/

    D.C. Cops Running Drill on Same Day as Capitol Shooting
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    First responders participated in drill to “perfect their skills”
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    A joint training exercise ending today, in addition to barricades and checkpoints placed at the White House, may have played a role in the horrific police execution of a woman today at the nation’s capitol.


    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/04/po...html?hpt=hp_t3

    According to a report featured on Army.mil, this is the last day federal, state, local and municipal agencies will be testing “interagency operability during a crisis impacting the District of Columbia,” as part of a joint exercise known as Capital Shield 14.

    “Capital Shield 2014 is a joint training exercise in the National Capital Region, or NCR, that runs from Sept. 30 thru Oct. 3, and is hosted by the Joint Force Headquarters – National Capital Region,” the army’s report says. The NCR includes Washington, D.C.’s metropolitan area.

    The drill “also trains and prepares the Department of Defense to provide defense support to civil authorities and employ appropriate force protection measures as requested,” force protection measures necessary to protect the homeland like those employed today in the brutal shooting of the 34-year-old dental hygienist.

    Quote Authorities who searched Carey's apartment in Stamford found discharge papers that listed risperidone, a medication to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, a law enforcement source said. They also found paperwork listing escitalopram, an antidepressant commonly prescribed under the brand name Lexapro, according to the source.
    It was not known if she was taking any of the medications, and authorities have not officially linked the incident to mental illness or any other factor.
    According to Xavier Amador, a psychologist and expert in schizophrenia and other mental health disorders, it is possible the medications were prescribed for postpartum psychosis, a rare illness that usually comes on suddenly within the first four weeks after birth.
    When I went to a hospital for mental health treatment four months after having my son,
    those quacks gave me the same crap drug this woman took before she got shot.
    Celexa.

    it's horrible, cuts you off from humanity, severs the conscience, causes panic and destruction of your sex life.
    in fact there was a local study somewhere in seattle recently asking for celexa users to report side effects.

    then this happened.

    Another Lady in the Water




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_be,_or_not_to_be

    "To be, or not to be" is the famous opening phrase of a soliloquy in William Shakespeare's play Hamlet. Debate surrounds its meaning, and that of the speech, but most agree that it asks the fundamental question "why live?" and gives the desolate answer that death might be worse.

    Quote To be, or not to be, that is the question:
    Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
    The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Fortune,
    Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles,
    And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep
    No more; and by a sleep, to say we end
    The Heart-ache, and the thousand Natural shocks
    That Flesh is heir to? 'Tis a consummation
    Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep,
    To sleep, perchance to Dream; Aye, there's the rub,
    For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,
    When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
    Must give us pause. There's the respect
    That makes Calamity of so long life:
    For who would bear the Whips and Scorns of time,
    The Oppressor's wrong, the proud man's Contumely,
    The pangs of despised Love, the Law’s delay,
    The insolence of Office, and the Spurns
    That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
    When he himself might his Quietus make
    With a bare Bodkin? Who would Fardels bear,
    To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
    But that the dread of something after death,
    The undiscovered Country, from whose bourn
    No Traveller returns, Puzzles the will,
    And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
    Than fly to others that we know not of.
    Thus Conscience does make Cowards of us all,
    And thus the Native hue of Resolution
    Is sicklied o'er, with the pale cast of Thought,
    And enterprises of great pitch and moment,
    With this regard their Currents turn awry,
    And lose the name of Action. Soft you now,
    The fair Ophelia? Nymph, in thy Orisons
    Be all my sins remembered
    .
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    I wonder if she had a Depo Provera shot.

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    http://us.cnn.com/2013/10/04/us/dc-s...html?hpt=hp_t1

    'My sister just totally didn't deserve this'
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    AC360
    By Chelsea J. Carter, CNN
    updated 11:31 PM EDT, Fri October 4, 2013
    Watch this video
    Miriam's sister: This doesn't seem real
    STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    NEW: "We want to know if protocols were followed," family attorney says
    "We are still trying to put the pieces together," Amy Carey-Jones says
    The sisters want to know whether police followed proper protocols
    "Was there some other way" to end the chase, a sister asks

    (CNN) -- Amy Carey-Jones heard the news from someone, but she refused to believe it.
    It couldn't be her sister who authorities say rammed a barricade at the White House and then led police on a high-velocity chase through the heart of the nation's capital, ending with gunshots that left the woman dead.

    No, not her sister, she said. Then she turned on the television to the images of a smashed car and police.

    "I just saw the same clip over and over," Carey-Jones said Friday on CNN's AC360. "I did recognize the car. It just didn't seem real."

    A day after Miriam Carey led police on the chase with her 1-year-old daughter in the back seat, authorities are searching for clues to explain the bizarre chain of events that led to her death.

    So, too, is her family.

    "We are still trying to put the pieces together," Carey-Jones said.

    Neither she nor her other sister, Valarie Carey, know why Miriam Carey was in Washington, D.C. on Thursday.

    "We will never know what Mariam was thinking in those last hours before she died, and we can only speculate. Our real concern is why (this happened) and were things done properly? Was there some other way she could have been helped so that it didn't end tragically?"

    Washington Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy Lanier said that officers of the U.S. Capitol Police and Secret Service acted within commonly accepted use-of-force policies and practices in reaction to an intentional series of violent acts.

    Although Miriam Carey was shot while driving with her baby girl, the child was uninjured. The Carey family told CNN they have been told the girl is safe.
    "We don't know exactly where she is," said Valarie Carey.

    The girl has been taken into protective custody by the D.C. Child and Family Services Agency. She has been temporarily placed with a foster family, according an agency spokesperson, who declined to be identified.

    Miriam Carey's boyfriend reportedly told police last winter that she appeared to be delusional. The boyfriend said she claimed President Barack Obama had placed Stamford, Connecticut, where she lived, under lockdown and that her house was under electronic surveillance, said a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, was not authorized to release details to the media.

    Reports have surfaced following the deadly incident that Miriam Carey was being treated for schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, claims the Carey family vehemently denied.
    A few months after her daughter was born, Miriam Carey was diagnosed with postpartum depression with psychosis, the sisters said.
    Postpartum psychosis can cause delusions and paranoia, according to medical experts.
    READ: What is postpartum depression?

    "There wasn't a pattern. It was something that occurred suddenly," Carey-Jones said. "She seemed overwhelmed. There was a lot of stress.
    "There was not moments of her walking around with delusions. That was not what was going on."

    But her sister was making progress with the help of counseling and medications.

    Carey-Jones said her sister recently told her that the doctors told her she didn't need the medication anymore.

    "They tapered her off the medications, and she said she felt fine," Carey-Jones said.

    The sisters declined to discuss what medication Miriam Carey had taken.

    Despite reported claims by Miriam Carey's boyfriend that she had been delusional, the Carey sisters say they saw no signs of any problems. Authorities have not officially linked the incident to mental illness or any other factor.

    "She has never disclosed anything of that nature, and since my sister is not here to speak for herself that statement in and of itself is very questionable," Valarie Carey said.

    To the Careys, their sister was a "vibrant" woman who had everything to live for -- especially her 1-year-old daughter.

    Miriam Carey, they said, wanted to teach.

    "She always talked about teaching. Her field was dental hygienist, and she wanted to go further and give back in the field," Carey-Jones said.

    The sisters are struggling to reconcile the woman they know -- loving sister, mother and friend -- with the one who authorities say was behind the deadly chase.

    "When you see the information reported, it doesn't add up," Carey-Jones said.

    The family is questioning whether shooting Miriam Carey was the only way to end the chase.

    "We want to know if protocols were followed," family attorney Eric Sanders said on AC360.

    "We are interested in finding out what happened. ...We are going to conduct our investigation, and we are not going to go with just what the government said."
    Authorities have acknowledged no shots were fired from Carey's black Infiniti as it raced through the streets.

    "My sister just totally didn't deserve this," said Valarie Carey, who was a New York police officer. "There are going to be a lot of different stories being told by people that claim they may know her. They don't. She was a law-abiding citizen. She had no political agenda."

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    In case anyone missed it, I was given the same drug she was when I too suffered post-partum depression and psychosis.

    it's not that rare.

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    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...artum.cnn.html

    Sister: Carey didn't have delusions

    Anderson Cooper 360|Added on October 4, 2013
    In an AC360 exclusive, the sisters of Miriam Carey speak out about her postpartum depression diagnosis.

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    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/13/sh...ide/index.html

    'MasterChef' runner-up Josh Marks loses 'battle of his life,' commits suicide
    By Alan Duke, CNN
    October 13, 2013 -- Updated 2104 GMT (0504 HKT)

    ...

    Marks -- who, at 7 feet 2 inches tall, was known by friends as a "gentle giant" -- was diagnosed with bipolar disorder a year ago, the same month he lost to to winner Christine Ha in the final round of the Fox reality cooking competition's third season. A doctor diagnosed Marks with schizophrenia just last week, Butler said.

    "Joshua was so kind, so gentle," his mother told CNN Sunday. "He loved life. He loved people. He would never hurt anyone; never. He was just a gentle, sweet soul; but he hurt himself. That breaks my heart, that he hurt himself."

    "But, behind that huge smile, Josh was in the battle of his life fighting mental illness," a family statement said. "It was extremely tough, but Josh was always positive, focused on his faith in God and determined to win; pushing forward through his illness to follow his passion for cooking and dream of being a renowned chef."

    That battle apparently began just as Marks was achieving celebrity status on television. "I hadn't noticed any signs of anything wrong or any mental illness until after Josh completed filming 'MasterChef,'" his mother said. "The time he was away filming was extremely stressful on him."

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