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    Well, I have been having fewer BMs so I have not done much reading , but I am at the point where he is teaching the techniques and I am trying to work on my visualizations. I leave the book around and it has been talked about and my wife asked a question that I have not read in the book and was wondering if any of you OBEers have experienced it. If you and another go out of body at the same time, can you be in the same "place"? I mean, can you interact out of body?
    If I may address this a bit.. Interaction of this type is absolutely possible. The experiences will be interpretive,, meaning that the environment will be of a co-created nature (most astral environments are) and will still be open to limited interpretation, upon return. I have done it on accident, with crystal clear involvement with another. Other times, I have had an OBE with another, who did NOT remember it, upon return. But DID remember it years later!! There is a LOT of that going on, actually. On a good clear night, with a good clear mind,,, YES you can journey together.




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    Hi risveglio, just to add a line to your question, what can happen if your lying next to your love one when you go outa body and they know nothing about it? that's why I do it in the afternoon when we take a nap. Don't want to tag them along and scare the heck out of them!!!! if that's possible. Thank you.

    I have never been able to drag someone out of their bodies. (only partially true,, hard to explain) I do not remember bringing a person sleeping next to me, but I do remember bringing my little dog, Ricker... He tags along sometimes. ...

    I hope this helps.
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    hi sirdip, hope you dont kind me sharing this book here....
    http://astral.manifestedvision.com/e...Projection.pdf


    My goodness, yet another book to aid in yer confussion? ccc.

    On a personal note... I have steared clear of anything of a "Magical" nature for a very good reason... and that is... it "can" "sometimes", call influences to the "Novice" that they would be ill prepared to deal with. The very word magic, no matter how the book presents it can make one, (because of all the crazy stuff they may think they know about it) hold these immages (crazy type goblins and creepy critters) in the back of their mind while reading how "nice" it is, and then find these immages when they cross into the astral. Remember, instantly thought responsive!

    This is one of the reasons for my using William Buhlmans teaching... he doesn't bring magic into the picture.

    There is NOTHING "magical", about Astral Projection. (no matter how you spell it.. magick!!!)

    Just keep confusing yourself, and you will never get OOB.
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    Not good to touch someone while goin OOB. Their mind can and will influence your experience. And if yer sleepin with yer dog, it will go with you and love it. Mine does. ccc. Back before going Astral, I had to put my other dog to "sleep", due to severe health reasons. (Bridget, my mini Dachshund. Now I just have Sydney, my Boston Terrier) We miss her terribly, so we go cross the line daily to play with her. Yep! PLUS... Bridget can pull enough energy from sleeping next to me all night, that she can get physical enough for me to pet her in the mornning before I get out of bed. ccc. love it!!! So does she!!

    If you are in bed with someone else, even though you aren't touching them, when you go OOB, and then they do touch you, they will instantly pull you back to body, which can be a real bummer if yer doin somethin really cool out there. ccc.

    Also, if they are havin a nasty ol "night mare", that too, can show up in yer OOBE. ccc. bummer!! cc.

    You should be alone, and "Clearly" focused, on that which YOU wish to do in the Astral Realm.

    Is it possible to go Astral with a "friend"? yep! (Remember what I kleep sayin? Remove the word Impossible, from your vocabulary!!!)
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    sorry guys, i thought this was the 'other' obe thread where we could share anything. and pls just bc i share this book, doesn't mean im confused. but thanks for your vote.....
    unite, alright
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    sorry guys, i thought this was the 'other' obe thread where we could share anything. and pls just bc i share this book, doesn't mean im confused. but thanks for your vote.....
    Of course you can share here. I have read the book, several times. I have found that reading a book about astral projection, fiction/non-fiction,, it always helps to keep my mind in a 'fascinated' mode. It can help with OBE.. I don't think any one was voting 'yeay' on you being confused. Certainly not. A book is a book, take it all with a grain of salt. I think that was the main point of Sirdipswtch comment. Also, the Llewellyn stuff can get a bit 'magicky'.. Just an opinion. I am going to read it again,, Thanks.

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    Quote Posted by sway (here)
    sorry guys, i thought this was the 'other' obe thread where we could share anything. and pls just bc i share this book, doesn't mean im confused. but thanks for your vote.....
    Of course you can share here. I have read the book, several times. I have found that reading a book about astral projection, fiction/non-fiction,, it always helps to keep my mind in a 'fascinated' mode. It can help with OBE.. I don't think any one was voting 'yeay' on you being confused. Certainly not. A book is a book, take it all with a grain of salt. I think that was the main point of Sirdipswtch comment. Also, the Llewellyn stuff can get a bit 'magicky'.. Just an opinion. I am going to read it again,, Thanks.

    Jake
    yes i get that, but its a bit presumptuous, as its just a source of info, right? each person here knows to take what resonates with them only (ihope!).

    maybe i am predisposed to wanting to learn as much as possible, thats just my personality ..... and its nice when i read similar spiritual info over a wide range of genres. which this is an example of...theres really no magick referenced actually so far as ive read.......
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    Well slap my face and call me stupid!!! ccc. Yer both right!! cc. Thanx, Sway!!! Thanx, Jake!!!

    Sometimes I forget to back up and listen to what it was I said. ccc. What was that???

    "Please, Do NOT, believe a word that I say, for this is my journey not yours. Go do your own research. Listen to no-one. Find YOUR own Truth. As "I" did." "It is all just a Game, play it as you will."

    Yep. ccc. I did say that didn't I??? ccc.

    And... how you play it... is all importantly about YOU!!! yep.ccc.

    Just never never ever ever QUIT!!! YOU will get there... when YOUR time is right to get there. simple. cc.

    So I'll just sit here and keep Lovin all of ya anyways,
    no matter what ya do. ccc.
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    Well, I have been having fewer BMs so I have not done much reading , but I am at the point where he is teaching the techniques and I am trying to work on my visualizations. I leave the book around and it has been talked about and my wife asked a question that I have not read in the book and was wondering if any of you OBEers have experienced it. If you and another go out of body at the same time, can you be in the same "place"? I mean, can you interact out of body?
    If I may address this a bit.. Interaction of this type is absolutely possible. The experiences will be interpretive,, meaning that the environment will be of a co-created nature (most astral environments are) and will still be open to limited interpretation, upon return. I have done it on accident, with crystal clear involvement with another. Other times, I have had an OBE with another, who did NOT remember it, upon return. But DID remember it years later!! There is a LOT of that going on, actually. On a good clear night, with a good clear mind,,, YES you can journey together.




    Quote Posted by camper (here)
    Hi risveglio, just to add a line to your question, what can happen if your lying next to your love one when you go outa body and they know nothing about it? that's why I do it in the afternoon when we take a nap. Don't want to tag them along and scare the heck out of them!!!! if that's possible. Thank you.

    I have never been able to drag someone out of their bodies. (only partially true,, hard to explain) I do not remember bringing a person sleeping next to me, but I do remember bringing my little dog, Ricker... He tags along sometimes. ...

    I hope this helps.
    jake
    Thanks Jake, now can you come and pull me out of my body next time I try? I think I am stuck as it feels like my entire body is floating but no pop and I really want to take a break from this place.

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    cccccc risveglio??? this may sound silly, but when you feel as though you are loooose... have you thought, to think, about just rolling out??? This does happen alot!! People do get loooose, and then just don't even think, about just "stepin out"!!! Or reachin up to grab that rope and pull yourself out, or a ladder to climb out with, or just roll out onto the floor and then stand up. If yer looose, yer looose, just think... to step out!! And then... say in a very deffinately authoritatively convincing mannor, "I GO NOW, TO MY HIGH SELF"!! And do not stop, nor turn aside... untill you are there. The very first thing to discuss with your HS, is your back to body command, and your out of body command, so that you will be able to go "talk" with IT, anytime YOU wish.

    It ain't "koesher" to have someone else "help" you out. If yer HS wants you out... IT, will pull you out...

    AND... remember that sense of humor. Yer HS is probly havin a ball playin with you, floatin around inside yer body, and all you gotta do is roll out. ccc.
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    Quote AND... remember that sense of humor. Yer HS is probly havin a ball playin with you, floatin around inside yer body, and all you gotta do is roll out. ccc.
    that is my biggest challenge...and im knee deep working with my(HS)self
    the hardest thing is innately remembering how easy it was.

    crap! or 'doh!
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    Spontaneous partial OOBE,

    An interesting experience last night, now how or where do I start, at the beginning I suppose, its not much of a story for you more experienced member with more frequent flyer miles then I could ever dream of but here it goes, a short story and my first for me amazing experience.

    First a thank you to Sway who provided me with a stack of E books and I never properly thanked her to my embarrassment so I just did just that.

    Ok, eeeh, how to begin, well, I was feeling very relaxed last night, unusually relaxed if may say so for no reason what so ever, this is kind of odd actually since I am sick at home at the moment ( small burnout), I went to bed early ( for me) and did my usual tossing and turning to find the right spot on my pillow to rest my head so I could relax and doze of, I can not recall falling asleep but I do recall the usual "stabbing sensations, or pulling or tugging sensations" in my back slightly below my shoulder blades and as usual this annoyed the crap out of me as it makes me jump a feet up in the air laying down "that what it feels like" my ex used to tell me she didn't notice it at all but to me it feel like being picked up and slam onto the bed again.

    I finally ignored the feeling and apparently had fallen asleep, then I opened my eyes again for some reason and noticed I was completely silent inside and I had the feeling I needed to turn over and lay on my back, as soon as I did that I sighed in the strangest way out of nowhere from my plexus area , a very loud noise in my ears ( buzzing, humming, like hearing your blood flow through a seashell but really thunderous loud) and could feel how my legs slid out of my body and floated upward, it did not scare me, it was unexpected and after that weird sigh I wasn't surprised about anything to be honest, this was something very unusual, I knew at least that much so I let it take its course as far as I could, well that didn't happen as expected but I started playing with it a bit, I relaxed and the buzzing commenced and my legs went out again, I pulled back and started the same exercise again for some time ( don't know how long), just d!cking along I thought, this is something new and exiting lets play for a while and see if I can make this happen, I started to relax again and noticed I could not get out completely, my legs were out my head was out, my arms were out but my back and chest weren't and I could make this happen, my back was as glued to the bed, I tried a few more time and concluded it was some sort of blockage that kept me stuck to the bed, then I fell asleep again and now the even better part starts, while sleeping I could feels two hands around my ankles lifting my legs out of my body, not harsh but, firm warm hands making a steady effort to help me out, while I noticed this feeling I felt the urge to look beside me, beside me stood a young, tall well build muscular butt naked man, a tattooed body, half long hair, and for some reason I noticed he was hung like a donkey ( seriously, a blunt object large enough to beat the crap out of street thug) anyway, I burst out laughing when I noticed that and he grinned somewhat sheepishly and shrugged his shoulders if saying ( hey man, dong happens), anyway, we got passed that pretty quick apparently and with a serious expression on his face he reached down with his arm and I understood I should hold on to it, so we had a firm grip on each others wrists and lower arms and he tried to pull me up, but my back weighed like a hundred tons and was totally stuck to the bed, he disappeared. Somewhat later I could feel my body relax again and the noise started again too, and I got intentionally back into the relaxation part of the game and could feel the hands again around my ankles as if helping my climb out of my meat suit, and it didn't work again, I lost focus, and out of nowhere someone whistled on his fingers as to grab my attention and focus my mind on the task at hand again, but no such luck, I was done for this exercise and fell asleep again, but these images have stuck, I will not forget them.

    So far, my first weird funny, odd experience and a first glance at my personal assistant from whoknowswhere for whoknowswhat, thank you dude, I am glad you did not scare me, you have a badass whistle too, you have probably tried to help me out for a long long time now and I don't know what changed, but it was an experience to remember.

    Thank you, just don't scare the living s**t out me, promise??????

    Promise!

    Thank you
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    Healing myself when OOB, Can anyone give me some advice on where to start/look? I was diagnosed 3 weeks back with category 4 cancer of the lungs and liver, I've refused radium or chemo and will only accept being kept pain free and as comfortable as the situation allows. I've accepted my fate and have a completely different outlook then I expected after discovering OBE's early this year....Do we have a use by date that is preselected or can we change our destiny? I'd appreciate your thoughts.
    Cheers shipo

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    First of all shipo allthough I know in yer condition, it's hard to immagine, is the fact that ya gotta "CHEER UP"!!!

    It ain't terminal!!!!!!!!!!!

    The simple answer is... OXYGEN kills cancer. Raw Honey, kills cancer!! Apple Cider Vinager, kills cancer. Vitamin "C", kills cancer! They all, super charge your Immune System... and your Immune System ... KILLS cancer. Cemo-therapy... KILLS your immune system.

    Positive THINKING, supercharges your Immune System. Plus taking all of the above mentioned items, will kill the cancer and supercharge your immune system to complete the cure.

    Epsome-salt baths, are an excellent way get Oxygen, and Magnesium, (which oxegen needs, to get absorbed into your cells)
    into your system. Research oxygen and take the best, easiest form you can afford and do. cc. I take Oxy-Cleanse, made by "Earths Bounty", which is Magnesium/Peroxide, in capsul form. Yep! simple!! (Don't know if you can get it down under though, it's a US company.) You should be able to get liquid oxygen drops from your loacl health food store though.

    When you get an immeadiate handle on yer cancer in this mannor, by stuffin yer system with everything known to man to kill cancer and supercharge yer immune system, and keep takin all these things for general purpose maintenance, go astral and "Tell" your HS/Source to "Heal you completely, perfectly"! And yer done, no more cancer. ccc. In fact, you don't even need to go astral if you really believe in yer HS/Source, and TELL them to heal you. And then CHEER UP.

    OH YA!!! And did I mention... CHEEEEEERRRR UUUUPPP!!!!! Self-pitty-sad... will kill ya. ccc.

    OH!!?? And did I mention that RAW HONEY,
    will supercharge your immune system??? !!!! ccc.:



    Ps: One of the things that really bugs me about posts such as yours, and others like it... YOU HAVE A COMPUTER!!! WHY DO YOU EVEN HAVE CANCER??????????????????

    Haven't you ever heard this term... "RESEARCH"!!!

    Type into google search... CURE CANCER... and then read only NATURAL CURES. There are TONS and TONS of Natural Cures for cancer, in YOUR computer!!!!

    YouTube... is full of people talkin about how they CURED their own cancer.

    Ayurvedic Healing... cures cancer. (5,000 year old medicine from India!)

    The Egyption Army... The Roman Army.. The Greeks... all carried RAW Honey with them to CURE Disease, and Heal their wounds...

    Please don't get bent outta shape over this, I ain't tryin to chew yer but, but just wonderin.

    Please, it's just like I say at the bottom of every post, if you don't agree... do yer own reseach.

    Achieve 24/7s' communion with HS/Source... and anything will be possible for you!!! ANYTHING!!!
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    I'm always talkin possabilities..

    Here's a couple o vids for ya of such... ccc

    Jumpin?? To save people?? yep! cc.




    Time Travel? Yep, that too! cc





    Yep... possibilities! ccc...
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    Spontaneous partial OOBE,

    An interesting experience last night, now how or where do I start, at the beginning I suppose, its not much of a story for you more experienced member with more frequent flyer miles then I could ever dream of but here it goes, a short story and my first for me amazing experience.

    First a thank you to Sway who provided me with a stack of E books and I never properly thanked her to my embarrassment so I just did just that.

    Ok, eeeh, how to begin, well, I was feeling very relaxed last night, unusually relaxed if may say so for no reason what so ever, this is kind of odd actually since I am sick at home at the moment ( small burnout), I went to bed early ( for me) and did my usual tossing and turning to find the right spot on my pillow to rest my head so I could relax and doze of, I can not recall falling asleep but I do recall the usual "stabbing sensations, or pulling or tugging sensations" in my back slightly below my shoulder blades and as usual this annoyed the crap out of me as it makes me jump a feet up in the air laying down "that what it feels like" my ex used to tell me she didn't notice it at all but to me it feel like being picked up and slam onto the bed again.

    I finally ignored the feeling and apparently had fallen asleep, then I opened my eyes again for some reason and noticed I was completely silent inside and I had the feeling I needed to turn over and lay on my back, as soon as I did that I sighed in the strangest way out of nowhere from my plexus area , a very loud noise in my ears ( buzzing, humming, like hearing your blood flow through a seashell but really thunderous loud) and could feel how my legs slid out of my body and floated upward, it did not scare me, it was unexpected and after that weird sigh I wasn't surprised about anything to be honest, this was something very unusual, I knew at least that much so I let it take its course as far as I could, well that didn't happen as expected but I started playing with it a bit, I relaxed and the buzzing commenced and my legs went out again, I pulled back and started the same exercise again for some time ( don't know how long), just d!cking along I thought, this is something new and exiting lets play for a while and see if I can make this happen, I started to relax again and noticed I could not get out completely, my legs were out my head was out, my arms were out but my back and chest weren't and I could make this happen, my back was as glued to the bed, I tried a few more time and concluded it was some sort of blockage that kept me stuck to the bed, then I fell asleep again and now the even better part starts, while sleeping I could feels two hands around my ankles lifting my legs out of my body, not harsh but, firm warm hands making a steady effort to help me out, while I noticed this feeling I felt the urge to look beside me, beside me stood a young, tall well build muscular butt naked man, a tattooed body, half long hair, and for some reason I noticed he was hung like a donkey ( seriously, a blunt object large enough to beat the crap out of street thug) anyway, I burst out laughing when I noticed that and he grinned somewhat sheepishly and shrugged his shoulders if saying ( hey man, dong happens), anyway, we got passed that pretty quick apparently and with a serious expression on his face he reached down with his arm and I understood I should hold on to it, so we had a firm grip on each others wrists and lower arms and he tried to pull me up, but my back weighed like a hundred tons and was totally stuck to the bed, he disappeared. Somewhat later I could feel my body relax again and the noise started again too, and I got intentionally back into the relaxation part of the game and could feel the hands again around my ankles as if helping my climb out of my meat suit, and it didn't work again, I lost focus, and out of nowhere someone whistled on his fingers as to grab my attention and focus my mind on the task at hand again, but no such luck, I was done for this exercise and fell asleep again, but these images have stuck, I will not forget them.

    So far, my first weird funny, odd experience and a first glance at my personal assistant from whoknowswhere for whoknowswhat, thank you dude, I am glad you did not scare me, you have a badass whistle too, you have probably tried to help me out for a long long time now and I don't know what changed, but it was an experience to remember.

    Thank you, just don't scare the living s**t out me, promise??????

    Promise!

    Thank you

    Ain't no way... I would reach out and take "Somethings" hand... if I didnt know who... or "What" it was...

    You give it your hand... you give it "permission", over you... hmmmmmm.

    Ya might wanna thank yer HS, for NOT lettin it have you... ccc.
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    Spontaneous partial OOBE,

    An interesting experience last night, now how or where do I start, at the beginning I suppose, its not much of a story for you more experienced member with more frequent flyer miles then I could ever dream of but here it goes, a short story and my first for me amazing experience.

    First a thank you to Sway who provided me with a stack of E books and I never properly thanked her to my embarrassment so I just did just that.

    Ok, eeeh, how to begin, well, I was feeling very relaxed last night, unusually relaxed if may say so for no reason what so ever, this is kind of odd actually since I am sick at home at the moment ( small burnout), I went to bed early ( for me) and did my usual tossing and turning to find the right spot on my pillow to rest my head so I could relax and doze of, I can not recall falling asleep but I do recall the usual "stabbing sensations, or pulling or tugging sensations" in my back slightly below my shoulder blades and as usual this annoyed the crap out of me as it makes me jump a feet up in the air laying down "that what it feels like" my ex used to tell me she didn't notice it at all but to me it feel like being picked up and slam onto the bed again.

    I finally ignored the feeling and apparently had fallen asleep, then I opened my eyes again for some reason and noticed I was completely silent inside and I had the feeling I needed to turn over and lay on my back, as soon as I did that I sighed in the strangest way out of nowhere from my plexus area , a very loud noise in my ears ( buzzing, humming, like hearing your blood flow through a seashell but really thunderous loud) and could feel how my legs slid out of my body and floated upward, it did not scare me, it was unexpected and after that weird sigh I wasn't surprised about anything to be honest, this was something very unusual, I knew at least that much so I let it take its course as far as I could, well that didn't happen as expected but I started playing with it a bit, I relaxed and the buzzing commenced and my legs went out again, I pulled back and started the same exercise again for some time ( don't know how long), just d!cking along I thought, this is something new and exiting lets play for a while and see if I can make this happen, I started to relax again and noticed I could not get out completely, my legs were out my head was out, my arms were out but my back and chest weren't and I could make this happen, my back was as glued to the bed, I tried a few more time and concluded it was some sort of blockage that kept me stuck to the bed, then I fell asleep again and now the even better part starts, while sleeping I could feels two hands around my ankles lifting my legs out of my body, not harsh but, firm warm hands making a steady effort to help me out, while I noticed this feeling I felt the urge to look beside me, beside me stood a young, tall well build muscular butt naked man, a tattooed body, half long hair, and for some reason I noticed he was hung like a donkey ( seriously, a blunt object large enough to beat the crap out of street thug) anyway, I burst out laughing when I noticed that and he grinned somewhat sheepishly and shrugged his shoulders if saying ( hey man, dong happens), anyway, we got passed that pretty quick apparently and with a serious expression on his face he reached down with his arm and I understood I should hold on to it, so we had a firm grip on each others wrists and lower arms and he tried to pull me up, but my back weighed like a hundred tons and was totally stuck to the bed, he disappeared. Somewhat later I could feel my body relax again and the noise started again too, and I got intentionally back into the relaxation part of the game and could feel the hands again around my ankles as if helping my climb out of my meat suit, and it didn't work again, I lost focus, and out of nowhere someone whistled on his fingers as to grab my attention and focus my mind on the task at hand again, but no such luck, I was done for this exercise and fell asleep again, but these images have stuck, I will not forget them.

    So far, my first weird funny, odd experience and a first glance at my personal assistant from whoknowswhere for whoknowswhat, thank you dude, I am glad you did not scare me, you have a badass whistle too, you have probably tried to help me out for a long long time now and I don't know what changed, but it was an experience to remember.

    Thank you, just don't scare the living s**t out me, promise??????

    Promise!

    Thank you

    Ain't no way... I would reach out and take "Somethings" hand... if I didnt know who... or "What" it was...

    You give it your hand... you give it "permission", over you... hmmmmmm.

    Ya might wanna thank yer HS, for NOT lettin it have you... ccc.
    Hm, not sure what to make of that SDW, I reach out my hand to people all the time and that does not mean giving them permission over anything automatically imo, perhaps our experiences are different and perhaps I need a hand to get started, you say yourself your HS can even drag you out by your feet, so why not reach out and lend a hand, anyway thanks for your cheerful comment, its appreciated.

    I am digging into the book The Phase now, speedy results seem to be guaranteed, and very informative and easy to read, so I'll get back as soon as I have some more results to share.

    Ed

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    Wasn't talkin about physical life, and takin someones hand as in a handshake, that "We" all do all the time. I was talkin about that thing you saw in the astral, that "offered" its' hand to you. "That" was an astral being, and you had no idea who, or what it was. Trust me, your High Self/Source, will not appear to you as a nakid tatood, long haird man, with a big dong. If that is how you think, you may be awhile getin unstuck from your body.

    Fear, insecurity, confusion, will give entities in the astral, power over you, and when you willingly give your hand to one of them, it will own you. This is why we stress to focus on that which you wish to do when you do get out. So that you experience that which you "Intended" to experience. When you just lay there wanting to get out, without focusing on your goal, you could find absolutely anything when you do get out. And "Nothing" "Good", will come into your home, as this thing did, without your permision first. It is your very thinking that attracted whatever it was that "offered" its' hand to you. You need to clean, (clear) you, and your home.

    I have discussed all of this previously, and just like re-reading the books, when you aren't sure of something then maybe you need to go back and read that which I have said also, for I have brought a little more to the table than you find in any books. The experts don't like to talk about this part of Astral Projection because it makes people too fearfull to even try. And yes there are many people that made it to the "Nuthouse" that did it wrongly. They don'y like to talk about those either. I never even tried to get out of body untill I heard William Buhlman say we could go to our High Self, and then bought his books to find out how, because I didn't want to be one of those who made it to the nuthouse.

    If you have read and "Understand" the books, (both books), and all that I have written on this thread, and the "Adventures Beyond The Body" thread, then you have everything you need to do this safely. Ya I know it's a lot to read! So what????!!!

    How bad ya wannit? How "SAFE" ya wannit? If you, (all of you. This is for everyone that reads this) can't "Understand" and use Buhlmans books and that which is written on these two threads, to get out of body and go "Commune' with your High Self/Source, then perhaps you should stop what you are trying, and go sit in class at the Monroe Institute. Or maybe find a good Shaman to help you. ccc.

    AND, for those of you too lazy to go back and re-read, and you find yourself floating out of body and something scares you or tries to grab you or whatever, then just call on whoever you are accustomed to praying to and ask for help in protecting you from whatever it is that is attacking you. Call on Source! NOTHIN, wants to tangle with Source!!!...

    And "neighbor", this will also work if your strange guy comes back. Just tell Source to make it leave you.
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    Do we have a use by date that is preselected or can we change our destiny?
    Shipo,

    I personally don't like the word destiny once it sounds as if we should not expect too much of our own lives, which is not true. I'm afraid I cannot give you any reasonable reason why you are suffering with this sickness, but I'm sure it was not meant to you to accept it, by no means! In what concerns just you, you are soverign and, so, can change this situation for better. But mainly because you already know where to look for the right solution: in yourself! Meet with this higher aspect of your being, your High Self, and demand a cure! But look for a "standard" treatment as well! Not necessarily chemo, but any other kind of treatment that you think can give you hope too! Note that it's your physical body that is sick, which means you should treat it from the physical side too. Change your alimentation radically to detoxify your body of all the junk food you are accostumed to eat (including possibly lots of meat) and keep close to you just those people who, as you, truly wish you a cure and believe it's possible! If you can and aren't going to miss it, abandon your job as well to just focus in your treatment. You should fight for a cure with all of your strenght, because it seems to me that retribution in life suffers from inertia. The good side of this is that, once it starts, it suffers from inertia to stop as well. So try everything you can, in honest belief. Then you can reach a cure. I believe it is possible!

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    I'm always talkin possabilities..

    Here's a couple o vids for ya of such... ccc

    Jumpin?? To save people?? yep! cc.

    There is actually a bit of a controversy about this video, it appears to either be a promotion for a video game or that is just the cover story. Since this is Avalon, I will go with its the cover story
    http://www.openminds.tv/teleporting-...character-848/

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    I'm always talkin possabilities..

    Here's a couple o vids for ya of such... ccc

    Jumpin?? To save people?? yep! cc.

    There is actually a bit of a controversy about this video, it appears to either be a promotion for a video game or that is just the cover story. Since this is Avalon, I will go with its the cover story
    http://www.openminds.tv/teleporting-...character-848/

    Yep I fully agree, both videos could be and probly are "FAKE"!! Yep!! No matter. I didn't post them as to their authenticity, but simpley to show what is possible for you to achieve, by 24/7 communion with your HS and then returning to your TRUE Spirit Self. When you learn how to "Jump" from pint A to point B, instantly, this is presicely what it looks like. And you can jump with anything than ain't nailed down. Like this girl seems to have done with the guy on the bike, to keep him from getting hit by the truck. Yep!!! Possible!!

    Same with guy jumpin around from some place in time, to another place in time. Yep!!! Possible!!!

    Why go astral??? Gee I dunno buckwheat??????????????

    Source... can do anything, but "I" can do nothing. HS.. is Source, and will do anything for you... when you learn how to ask... properly!

    Guess i just wasn't smart enough to know this sh** ain't possible. cccc
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