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    Russell Brand Calls For “Massive Redistribution of Wealth”, “Socialist Egalitarianism”

    Quote Comedian Calls For Socialism, And He’s Not Joking

    “The plans may differ, the planners are all alike.” -Frederic Bastiat



    Famed comedian Russell Brand has taken a step into the political sphere and become an editor at The New Statesman magazine. His new political agenda he says is a ”socialist egalitarian system” involving a “massive redistribution of wealth”, “heavy taxation of corporations”, and adds that we must address the problem of “profits”. Brand believes that governments need massive centralization, while simultaneously calling for a revolution.

    Of course socialism is not revolutionary. Advocating for social safety nets and redistribution of wealth is more about risk aversion. True revolutionaries are risk-takers, and are people who are willing to take risks and accept hardships. Not so with socialism, which creates a nanny state to make decisions for the people. Socialism is central planning. It means central control of your life.

    Brand will likely crush the hopes of many libertarians who see this video and have enjoyed some of his previous TV appearances talking politics. Many people were stirred by Brand’s unwillingness to bend to the narrow political spectrum that the main stream media projects. That’s refreshing no matter what your politics. But his calls for socialism and for taxation show he is clearly not a revolutionary, nor a particularly original thinker. After all, we’ve had despotism for centuries.

    The only truly radical philosophy today is the one that dares to claim that individuals own their own bodies and the fruits of their labors. It is the philosophy centered on economic freedom and personal liberty. It is the philosophy of natural rights and free markets. It is classical liberalism, the true laissez-faire. THAT is revolutionary, my dear friend. Socialism would be a step back.



    Brand is advocating for nothing more than legal plunder. French philosopher Frederic Bastiat once wrote on the topic: “Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole—with their common aim of legal plunder—constitute socialism.”

    Despite Brand’s refreshing candor and undeniable charm, his misunderstanding of the true nature of centralization of government power is unforgivable. It’s intellectually lazy and in truth, dangerous.

    Communism and socialism have been responsible for the death of possibly hundreds of millions of people in eastern Europe and Asia in the last century. The butchery of despotic socialist dictators such as Adolf Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Che Guevera, Fidel Castro and Pol-Pot are historic testimonies as to the eventual endgame of the centralization of government power.

    Central planning is the “The Road to Serfdom,” which means that when the government has planned everything for you for your life and you are no longer useful to the state, they will offer you their final plan.

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    Default Re: REVOLUTION..Vibrant/provocative interview...Russell Brand interviewed by Jeremy Paxman BBC Newsnight....

    Comedian & actor Russell Brand sits down with Josh to talk about his first ever
    world stand-up tour, 'The Messiah Complex,' as well as his thoughts on social &
    religious issues, marriage and acting. And sex. Obviously.


    Originally aired on June 11, 2013


    vid interview on link....Warning...Some Strong sexual content /innuendo.....

    http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/seg...a760779200060a
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    Default Re: Russell Brand May Have Started a Revolution Last Night

    Quote Posted by Sabrina (here)
    Brilliant Band - making Paxman looking very faded old school with an agenda to maintain that he can hardly prop up. The old world weary cynicism won´t wash any more...

    Mr and Mrs A are of the opinion that Mr Paxman was in on this deal and willingly being the rapier for Russel's foil. Very effective way to get the best out of Russel Brand and make it deliverable to a wider range of people.
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    Russell Brand isn't Waking People Up - He is Putting You Back to Sleep



    Quote It's always amazing to me how so many people who consider themselves to be 'awake' - still consider their beliefs being stated on the mainstream by a celebrity as being a higher accolade/validation, than any other outlet/research, or even their own convictions.

    Russell Brand is a pseudo-intellectual, overpaid, middle-class, media luvvie who is put out there by the BBC and the Guardian to make you forget all about Jimmy Savile and to quell your anger in a delusional state that he is 'waking others up'.

    Russell Brand is put on the TV screens to placate the ones already 'awake', and to put you back to sleep in the belief that this is some kind of victory. It's isn't - it is showbiz being used as a social engineering tool yet again.

    You do not need the BBC or Russell Brand to validate your convictions if you genuinely feel that strongly about them. The truth is already self-evident. No mainstream media, political or celebrity validation required.

    The Jimmy Savile horror show is the ultimate weapon we have in our arsenal which we can wake people up with. The BBC knows this, and so do their owners and personal friends of Jimmy Savile, the Royal Family. So they throw you a 'truth bone' in the form of celebrity Platitude Prosac Performance in the guise of Russell Brand talking about 'revolution' when in reality it's about distraction.

    Do not be bought off with this rubbish. Keep the Jimmy Savile anger raging - it is the key to bringing the whole pyramid down.

    Russell Brand's image is also very 'Christ'-like and this is still a very powerful archetype people are wooed by. The Christ image was also utilised by CIA creation Jim Morrison to act as another pied piper for the anti-Vietnam War generation in the mid-late 1960's. This is the same tactic being used again - forget your anger at the system - a celebrity will fight the revolution for you on the telly...

    Although the segment is being marketed as Paxman versus Brand it should be really titled: THE BBC VERSUS YOU (again...).
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    So Now You Believe The Revolution WILL Be Televised, and by the BBC???



    Quote It is more of a revolutionary act today to stop watching TV than going down to government buildings and throwing bombs. We are no longer living in the Paris Commune. Switching off the TV gives you time to think, and that makes you a very dangerous person in today's world. The Paris Commune of today is inside your consciousness. If I have one dream I would dearly love to see in my lifetime - it would be to witness the current mainstream media replaced with a grassroots version which speaks from the heart/conscience and not from Government, Religious, Civil Service, University, QUANGO and Corporate press releases.

    All the ducks are now lined up in a row to make this happen. The technology is affordable. The mid-range professional film makers are finding a big audience and sponsors. Independent and small publishing is thriving. At the same time, the mainstream outlets are losing vast numbers of viewers, readers and advertisers. If we can do this. We'll have created a revolution of seismic proportions that will literally generate a new reality to replace the present one without a shot being fired. We have the talent and we have the heart. The viewers will find us in time.

    Conspiracy theories exist because mainstream journalism has become a dreadful void of corporate and governmental propaganda. If mainstream journalists actually did investigative reporting rather than reprinting press releases, then there would be no hidden conspiracies to speculate theories about.

    The only reason why people believe in external salvation and rescue at the hands of religions, political systems, gurus, aliens, lifestyles, a perfect relationship and material wealth is because they will do anything to not believe in themselves. Tel-Lie-Vision has been the main conduit of this engineered dysfunctionality. Ephemeral flutter is more real to them than their own sovereign soul. That's the only real thing about them and the soul doesn't need salvation from above. It already has that built-in.

    Russell Brand shook the Queen's hand and he's a Revolutionary apparently now - I would of called her a 'Parasite' to her face and I'm the one being attacked by the Truthers. Very sad. Russell Brand the 'revolutionary' is no doubt talking 'Revolution' by a pool in Malibu today basking in the unconditional love of people who still don't have ****. But who are still dependent on the BBC for their opinions.

    No need to wait for the BBC to throw you a Russell Brand bone now and again...you are already there if you want to be there.
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    Interesting points, Dianna.
    Between your arguments and Soulboy's on the other thread about Brand "REVOLUTION..Vibrant/provocative interview...Russell Brand interviewed by Jeremy Paxman BBC Newsnight.... " I think I am landing somewhere in the middle, for now, but leaning more toward your views...
    It will be interesting to see what happens as Brand's career takes off.
    (Apologies for not providing a link for the other thread--I'm having some computer issues today.)
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    Default Re: REVOLUTION..Vibrant/provocative interview...Russell Brand interviewed by Jeremy Paxman BBC Newsnight....

    Dianna is making similar points about Brand as Soulboy made about Stewart and Colbert over on this thread:
    Russell Brand May Have Started a Revolution Last Night
    (Apologies for not providing a link--I'm having computer issues today.)
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    Classic - someone speaks the truth and Paxman is frozen/stymied/stuffed in public at last! LOL!! Well done Russell Brand - but we really have to enact on his viable message - STILL - (as if we haven't tried already), but we must now keep at it to throw the big corporates under scrutiny, and their links to the 'banksters'. Why is the Rothschild clan now grovelling with the Yuan/Renminbi?
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    Quote Posted by Artworks (here)
    Perhaps this is he who Cliff High was waiting for as a maker in the data!
    Yes, he is the one forecast by Clif. Clif referenced the interview today on his website as fulfillment of the language.

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    A fundamental, common sense, and essential understanding of organic economics is that money given to the poor is always spent which creates a thriving economy. Money in the hands of the rich gets horded resulting in a sick, emotionally blocked, collapsing economy which is constantly having to be propped up.

    Usury, debt slavery, unemployment, poverty, starvation are all signs of a feeble-minded system set up by village idiots who have taken the reins of power through lies and brute force not only leading to, but because of complicity, apathy, and false belief systems among a frightened populace who are conditioned to giving away their own power because they think voting and democracy makes everything o.k..
    Apathetic governments allow chemtrails because chemtrails create an apathetic humanity that is more easily manged when they are breathing in chemtrails.

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    Although I admire Russell Brand as an actor, I do not trust much his words and intentions. I think he might be an "agent from the other side", perhaps the illuminati one ... He will place himself into all those underground movements of changes, know who is who, and infiltrate + report.
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    Wow. Bumping this al the way. This is a MUST SEE interview.

    A note for the non-Brits among us!

    Jeremy Paxman (who was interviewing Russell Brand) is the BBC's longstanding #1 kingpin interviewer, famous for taking politicians apart and leaving them in little pieces. He's well-respected, fearless, well-informed, and very bright. He's extremely good at his job.

    So watch in delight and be impressed as Russell Brand takes HIM apart. Classic, and just possibly important.

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    Quote Posted by Artworks (here)
    Perhaps this is he who Cliff High was waiting for as a maker in the data!
    Yes, he is the one forecast by Clif. Clif referenced the interview today on his website as fulfillment of the language.
    I would very much appreciate more on this as I have no idea what "maker" means or what Clif High said.

    On Redice site there are two articles in the last day or so reviewing Brand's appearance on the "scene".
    He is generating energy pro/con.Why does he excite so energy? It felt to me as if he is voicing my own interest? Is this blue beam or something?

    I am just really interested in what all this about Brand means?
    Personally I did not think in any interview he was saying what kind of system and asked that those much more knowledgeable than he be utilized to try something that would work as the system is broken. And as far as I am concerned, socialism is always a "title" given to various fascists states. The discussion of what is occurring in Sweden and other places is discussed on Redice and elsewhere to show that the Nanny state is available. That is NOT what I hear Brand suggesting?

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    WoW, 3.9M views in the first 24 hrs on YouTube.

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    Delight, on HalfPastHuman.com, clif high uses a software program that captures billions of words written online, and by looking for differences in the words from day to day, he analyzes unconscious psychic awareness in all humans that can tell us the trends coming in the future. He said this on Oct. 16:

    Quote Here on earth, among the humans, we are waiting for a new phenomenon to emerge that will have elements of a [cult] (emotionally), but not mentally (no religion bull**** involved), and which will arise from a [video personality] who will (according to data) [decide] to [accept personal responsibility] for the next step. This personality may appear from within the Peoples' Voice (from D. Icke), but i seriously do doubt that it will be the 'techno viking'. And no, this is not an example of the 'external savior myth', as this person is described as a [catalyst for planetary change (revolution?)]. (10/16/2013-6:25am PDT)
    Then he followed up yesterday with this statement:

    Quote I'm taking that right! (the linguistics we have been awaiting, tasty morsel for gnawing...(see above)). Russel Brand taking personal responsibility. (10/24/2013) Hmmmm...now how did he (hph) do that? eh?
    By the way - he didn't say whether this was a good thing or a bad thing, other than the idea that almost any change (revolution) would be better than what we have. Anyway - he just said, this is going to happen.

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    Quote Posted by Azt (here)
    Although I admire Russell Brand as an actor, I do not trust much his words and intentions. I think he might be an "agent from the other side", perhaps the illuminati one ... He will place himself into all those underground movements of changes, know who is who, and infiltrate + report.
    TBH, I think Brand is too much of a liability to be under the perceived "control" of any body with an alternative agenda.
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    Quote Posted by dianna (here)
    Russell Brand Calls For “Massive Redistribution of Wealth”, “Socialist Egalitarianism”

    Quote Comedian Calls For Socialism, And He’s Not Joking

    “The plans may differ, the planners are all alike.” -Frederic Bastiat



    Famed comedian Russell Brand has taken a step into the political sphere and become an editor at The New Statesman magazine. His new political agenda he says is a ”socialist egalitarian system” involving a “massive redistribution of wealth”, “heavy taxation of corporations”, and adds that we must address the problem of “profits”. Brand believes that governments need massive centralization, while simultaneously calling for a revolution.

    Of course socialism is not revolutionary. Advocating for social safety nets and redistribution of wealth is more about risk aversion. True revolutionaries are risk-takers, and are people who are willing to take risks and accept hardships. Not so with socialism, which creates a nanny state to make decisions for the people. Socialism is central planning. It means central control of your life.

    Brand will likely crush the hopes of many libertarians who see this video and have enjoyed some of his previous TV appearances talking politics. Many people were stirred by Brand’s unwillingness to bend to the narrow political spectrum that the main stream media projects. That’s refreshing no matter what your politics. But his calls for socialism and for taxation show he is clearly not a revolutionary, nor a particularly original thinker. After all, we’ve had despotism for centuries.

    The only truly radical philosophy today is the one that dares to claim that individuals own their own bodies and the fruits of their labors. It is the philosophy centered on economic freedom and personal liberty. It is the philosophy of natural rights and free markets. It is classical liberalism, the true laissez-faire. THAT is revolutionary, my dear friend. Socialism would be a step back.



    Brand is advocating for nothing more than legal plunder. French philosopher Frederic Bastiat once wrote on the topic: “Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole—with their common aim of legal plunder—constitute socialism.”

    Despite Brand’s refreshing candor and undeniable charm, his misunderstanding of the true nature of centralization of government power is unforgivable. It’s intellectually lazy and in truth, dangerous.

    Communism and socialism have been responsible for the death of possibly hundreds of millions of people in eastern Europe and Asia in the last century. The butchery of despotic socialist dictators such as Adolf Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Che Guevera, Fidel Castro and Pol-Pot are historic testimonies as to the eventual endgame of the centralization of government power.

    Central planning is the “The Road to Serfdom,” which means that when the government has planned everything for you for your life and you are no longer useful to the state, they will offer you their final plan.

    Well he did say during the interview that there were better qualified people than himself with alternative ideas on how things could work and how the political system could be improved.I didn't hear 'central planning' mentioned.I would say that he is trying to make more people aware that change is needed and not exactly what that change might be.
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    Quote Posted by Snowflower (here)
    Delight, on HalfPastHuman.com, clif high uses a software program that captures billions of words written online, and by looking for differences in the words from day to day, he analyzes unconscious psychic awareness in all humans that can tell us the trends coming in the future. He said this on Oct. 16:

    Quote Here on earth, among the humans, we are waiting for a new phenomenon to emerge that will have elements of a [cult] (emotionally), but not mentally (no religion bull**** involved), and which will arise from a [video personality] who will (according to data) [decide] to [accept personal responsibility] for the next step. This personality may appear from within the Peoples' Voice (from D. Icke), but i seriously do doubt that it will be the 'techno viking'. And no, this is not an example of the 'external savior myth', as this person is described as a [catalyst for planetary change (revolution?)]. (10/16/2013-6:25am PDT)
    Then he followed up yesterday with this statement:

    Quote I'm taking that right! (the linguistics we have been awaiting, tasty morsel for gnawing...(see above)). Russel Brand taking personal responsibility. (10/24/2013) Hmmmm...now how did he (hph) do that? eh?
    I read that Clif High views this as an excitement of Mental clarity in the collective mind?

    Russell Brand sounds like a high mental excitemnet that the solar energies seem to be bringing me. Yes, i am thinking abut things that I "believe" are valuable and I feel a wave of Joy when I think on these things.

    When I hear Russell Brand, I trust that He speaks from this place.
    I feel a gushing appreciation of the opportunity to listen.

    I have been wondering if there is a mental wave that travels along goodness pathways that is more available. Hearing him, not just the words seems it could be a high note. But it sweeps down into practicality of vision It seems feels "sound", grounded, yet, from a place of larger context comprehending softer and able to observe. It holds most light hearted and irreverent treatment. It feels truthful from a human point of view. I may be mistaken but i felt him reach the heart level in the interview and point out to the interviewer his own lineage sadness for the way people have been dealt by the broken social collective treatment.
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    Default Re: Russell Brand May Have Started a Revolution Last Night

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    Russell Brand Calls For “Massive Redistribution of Wealth”, “Socialist Egalitarianism”

    Quote Comedian Calls For Socialism, And He’s Not Joking

    “The plans may differ, the planners are all alike.” -Frederic Bastiat



    The only truly radical philosophy today is the one that dares to claim that individuals own their own bodies and the fruits of their labors. It is the philosophy centered on economic freedom and personal liberty. It is the philosophy of natural rights and free markets. It is classical liberalism, the true laissez-faire. THAT is revolutionary, my dear friend. Socialism would be a step back.

    Well he did say during the interview that there were better qualified people than himself with alternative ideas on how things could work and how the political system could be improved.I didn't hear 'central planning' mentioned.I would say that he is trying to make more people aware that change is needed and not exactly what that change might be.
    I feel very strongly about this right to ownership over one's body. In fact, I feel that this issue of the body is about the most exciting issue in my thoughts.

    And the right to the fruits of one's labor! In fact, what we could do is substitute energy for "labor".

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    Just one example to back up my previous post ...


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