The Higher Self and transcendent experience, including OBEs

[TraineeHuman]

To start learning how to communicate with trees and plants, I would say you simply watch them and be as fully open as possible. Does anyone have any experiences of doing something like this that they care to share?

Her's my ten cents. It's better if you can think of trees as persons, as souls, only different. They just happen to remain fixed at the same spot their entire lifetime. Because of that, trees and plants absolutely love to reach out energetically. They live to do so.

The nonverbal communications they are constantly sending out are uplifting to all humans and animals. (The one exception is if the chief nature-spirits in charge of a wild area have decided not to welcome, say, humans, because they want to keep the area unpolluted by egoic energies.)

Each tree, plant or flower sends out a slightly different kind of communication. Roses are often the most popular type of flower because they send out messages for people to be kind to themselves, to accept themselves and forgive themselves -- and did I mention being kind to themselves? Flowers are a little like mayflies. Because their life is short, they strive extra hard to send out very pleasant energies telepathically to all who will receive them. Trees do this also, but less intensely and gaudily.

The best way I know to tune into a plant or tree is simply to admire it, to tune in to its beauty. If you look for it, you can uncover far more beauty than you noticed was there at first, perhaps.

You can also start by just noticing what kinds of "energies" -- that is, emotions, really -- different trees seem to show. Notice some differences between old trees and young trees. Notice how different particular trees get on with, or fail to get on with, nearby plants or trees. You don't need to be able to put it all into words. Some communications from trees etc will feel obviously positive but they may even be "downloads" which are or seem unsayable.

Practicing such communication will make it easier for you to become aware of "energies" in general. This in turn will make it easier for you to be aware of, and even "see", non-physical energies, i.e. energies from dimensions higher than the physical. If you want to be able to "stop the world" a la Castaneda, you need to have alternatives to "the (ordinary) world (or matrix)" that you can tune into. So, I suggest you need to practice exercises such as this.

No doubt it could be helpful to other members if some of you could can describe the results you get, or don't get. This is just a matter of enjoying Nature more intensely, of communing with it a little. It's not rocket science. But it does involve learning to "talk" in a different way, rather like you learned to talk when you were an infant.

[TraineeHuman]

One example of someone who needed rescuing when they died was my mother. In her case it was because she had a strongly fixed belief that when we die we totally cease to exist. That belief made her very frightened indeed. And in the astral, of course, what you put your attention on you attract and in that way make real, even if it wasn't there at all.

The atheist or materialist types like her are only one example of he ones who all need the hospitals. For two weeks,a s soon as she had finished her life review she tried to follow me everywhere and interpolate her comments into my thoughts. Then I somehow found a way to cut all the attachments she was using to obtain some sort of control over me. Thank goodness I was able to make that cut somehow! Otherwise I would have needed rescuing for sure.

(She had also tried to do a walk-in to take over my body for the first five minutes after she died, but I successfully wrestled her off in the etheric. It felt like heavyweight wrestling. In the end I managed to push her off the back of my neck and my upper back.)

Then I got my g.a.s to arrange help, and they told me she was in a very bad space because she was totally mystified about where she was and she was extremely fearful, mostly that she was going through some kind of process of being extinguished somehow.

Less than two weeks later, however, she was out of hospital. She managed to call my name, to put what my brain "heard" as the sound of her voice quite loud in the middle of my head, not long before I was going to go to sleep. Her "voice" was very joyful and affectionate. All she needed to communicate was love, and she now appreciated I was someone with wonderful connections in that world, and goodbye (pretty much).

I believe the term "rescue" covers a diverse variety of situations. It may be instructive to look at that in a future post. In the meantime, does anyone else have any possible "psychic rescue" experience they have heard of or know of?

[TraineeHuman]

One apparently prevalent idea I believe it's useful for us to question is that as a person develops their awareness, maybe most/many of their dreams will become fully lucid. Why should remembering be that important? I'd like to ask.

I don't doubt there's initially value in recalling details while you're awake of what an astral or even higher world looks like. But I'd like to ask, once you've seen what that particular "scenery" is like, is it really so useful to keep remembering the details of your trips there? Why doesn't remembering the details become less important after a while, once you've established that other, higher worlds do exist, and that you do know how to get on touch with them sometimes? Almost like the way it isn't important for you to remember what happened in your day, say, exactly thirty-eight months ago, in the afternoon?

If you don't have a stable link to your HM as yet, I don't doubt the value of keeping a dream journal by your bed and recording details from your dreams. But what's important in that is it's one way for you to keep getting up-to-date access to part of what your HM is striving to tell you right now. Admittedly, you do need to use your memory to recall at least something of what was in your dreams.

Also, isn't much of your memory, at least as recorded in your dream journal, mostly part of your lower intellect? Isn't that significantly incomplete at best?

Memory isn't the only thing that connects 4D with 3D. For instance, our whole physical survival depends on our life-force, every moment. Our "4D body", our "emotional body/self", our own individual "life-force" -- let's take these as all being almost the same. And our body -- the totality of the cells' consciousness -- has to depend on it, or die. And be led by it constantly.

This dependence is the primary connection between the physical and the astral for each of us, surely. Regardless of whether we remember what the astral looks like or feels like, or not.

Because of this dependence the physical body has, our 4D body -- by which I'll mean, say, the totality of our emotions and what holds them together -- needs to be strong, and healthy. But as it says in the Bible (I think!), both the physical and the 4D (and 5D) body when combined needs to be a reasonably well looked-after temple to be fit for the "Holy Spirit" --almost something like the HM -- to hopefully dwell in.

And to make our 4D and 5D bodies "purer" or more positive, we do need some kind of psychotherapy or intensive personal growth etc. And the basis of psychotherapy is a re-experiencing of parts of our past. We may not consciously recall the full details -- or any details -- of past incidents if we're just "running their energy [i.e. emotions]", as I take it scientologists would say, or "running their pictures [5D ideas/beliefs/etc]".

What happens during any such process is that we're revisiting the ("energetic" or "pictorial") root of the painful memories we blocked from our awareness in the past and which had remained blocked until now. In this way we do come to remember the general essence of what really happened in our past.But it's more a matter of letting go of the baggage rather than retaining it and the memory of it. I guess that as a result of psychotherapy etc etc I can now remember the history of all the major things that happened in my life in years zero to nine, and also before and after. But I don't dwell on it. I don't reminisce about it at all. And I've actually most of the unpleasant parts of the details. These have been wiped away forever -- just went "pop" and vanished.. Better to let the Higher consciousness shine through directly wherever possible.

As discussed earlier in this thread, once one has learnt how to "ascend" to the experience of higher worlds, the end game is to learn to somehow eventually bring the essence of what you have learnt there into the supposed "mud" of the physical world and your life there.

Although the physical world can be said to be "lower" in certain ways, precisely because of that it gives us greater opportunities to grow. The HM has to compromise because of the limitations of the phsyical, emotional and mental vehicles through which it's seeking to shine and in so doing develop itself also. The HM has to accept these limitations but it gets its means of advancement out of that interchange!

About three months ago Ron Mauer pointed out something along the lines that an improved physical world would not be so bad at all. That it wouldn't be a place that some including him, would want to leave soon, or any lifetime in the near future or even distant future. I hope I haven't misrepresented Ron's meaning too much here.

In a somewhat similar vein, it's in the HM's interest for the 4D and 5D bodies to be strong -- but positive, and somewhat pure in the sense of relatively ego-free. Then the individual has plenty of energy and courage to create positive things. to be persistent in achieving such ends. It may also mean, though, that such an individual can be reluctant to surrender the driving wheel to the HM. If that individual has learnt how to become energetic and has developed various talents but has not purged her/himself sufficiently of the hold of negative emotions like hate, jealousy, fear, and so forth, then that energetic strength can become a liability. Instead of being a preparation for the HM to be able to do all of its work, it can be the vehicle for the misuse of that individual's inner power, once the HM has helped it to begin to grow stronger -- as I guess I've already mentioned in a previous post.

[TraineeHuman]

Here are some quotes regarding intuition by very famous people from various fields. The quotes are all taken from an issue of Psychology Today. They are all extremely accurate, in my opinion. I love these quotes. Sometimes people say things about intuition which are only half true, or misleading, in my opinion. But not here.

The only real valuable thing is intuition. - Albert Einstein

Insight is not a light bulb that goes off inside our heads. It is a flickering candle that can easily be snuffed out. - Malcolm Gladwell, Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking

At times you have to leave the city of your comfort and go into the wilderness of your intuition. What you'll discover will be wonderful. What you'll discover is yourself. - Alan Alda

The truth about life and lie about life is not measured by others but by your intuition, which never lies. - Santosh Kalwar

Every test successfully met is rewarded by some growth in intuitive knowledge, strengthening of character, or initiation into a higher consciousness. - Paul Brunton, The Notebooks of Paul Brunton

A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something. - Frank Capra

I feel there are two people inside me - me and my intuition. If I go against her, she'll screw me every time, and if I follow her, we get along quite nicely. – Kim Basinger

Intuition is the clear conception of the whole at once. – Johann Kaspar Lavater

Intuition comes very close to clairvoyance; it appears to be the extrasensory perception of reality. – Alexis Carrel

Intuition is the supra-logic that cuts out all the routine processes of thought and leaps straight from the problem to the answer. – Robert Graves

Often you have to rely on intuition. – Bill Gates

You must train your intuition - you must trust the small voice inside you which tells you exactly what to say, what to decide. – Ingrid Bergman

It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover. - Henri Poincare

Intuition becomes increasingly valuable in the new information society precisely because there is so much data. - John Naisbitt

[TraineeHuman]

Some more quotes on intuition:

“Intuition is the source of scientific knowledge.” Aristotle

"A good artist lets his intuition lead him wherever it wants.” Lao Tzu

"As you see, I do not treat the creation of fiction, that is to say the invention and development of fantasies, as a form of abstract thought. I don’t wish to deny the uses of the intellect, but sometimes one has the intuition that the intellect by itself will lead one nowhere." J. M. Coetzee

“Every happening, great and small, is a parable whereby God speaks to us, and the art of life is to get the message.” Malcolm Muggeridge

“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” Albert Einstein

“When you expand your awareness, seemingly random events will be seen to fit into a larger purpose.” Deepak Chopra

“Follow your bliss and the universe will open doors where there were only walls.” Joseph Campbell

“Intuition isn’t the enemy, but the ally, of reason.” John Kord Lagemann

“Synchronicity is choreographed by a great, pervasive intelligence that lies at the heart of nature, and is manifest in each of us through intuitive knowledge.” Deepak Chopra

"But, you know, when I choose a film I need to believe in it and believe I can do something special with it, and after a while that means not trying to judge or analyze why I should do it. You have to follow this intuition thing, which is a mystery to me." Juliette Binoche

“Built into you is an internal guidance system that shows you the way home. All you need to do is heed the voice.” Neale Donald Walsch

“Intuition is a combination of historical (empirical) data, deep and heightened observation, and an ability to cut through the thickness of surface reality. Intuition is like a slow motion machine that captures data instantaneously and hits you like a ton of bricks. Intuition is a knowing, a sensing that is beyond the conscious understanding — a gut feeling. Intuition is not pseudo-science.” Abella Arthur

“If prayer is you talking to God, then intuition is God talking to you.” Dr. Wayne Dyer

“It is always with excitement that I wake up in the morning wondering what my Intuition will toss up to me, like gifts from the sea. I work with it and rely on it. It’s my partner.” Jonas Salk

“The intellect has little to do on the road to discovery. There comes a leap in consciousness, call it intuition or what you will, and the solution comes to you and you don’t know how or why.” Albert Einstein

“Intuition is the clear conception of the whole at once.” Johan Kaspar Lavater

“Close both eyes to see with the other eye.” Rumi

The fact that modern physics, the manifestation of an extreme specialisation of the rational mind, is now making contact with mysticism, the essence of religion and manifestation of an extreme specialisation of the intuitive mind, shows very beautifully the unity and complementary nature of the rational and intuitive modes of consciousness; of the yang and the yin.” Fritof Capra

“There can be as much value in the blink of an eye as in months of rational analysis.” Malcolm Gladwell

“I rely far more on gut instinct than researching huge amounts of statistics.” –Richard Branson

“Intuition is a spiritual faculty and does not explain, but simply points the way.” Florence Scovel Shinn

“Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own, instead of someone else’s.” Billy Wilder

“Good instincts usually tell you what to do long before your head has figured it out.” Michael Burke

“Follow your instincts. That’s where true wisdom manifests itself.” Oprah Winfrey

“Trust yourself. You know more than you think you do.” Benjamin Spock

“Intuition will tell the thinking mind where to look next.” Jonas Salk
“Listen to your intuition. It will tell you everything you need to know.”
Anthony J. D’Angelo
“Come into the silence of solitude, and the vibration there will talk to you through the voice of God”. –Paramahansa Yogananda

“Truly successful decision making relies on a balance between deliberate and instinctive thinking.” Malcolm Gladwell

Faith is a passionate intuition. William Wordsworth

“No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” Albert Einstein

"Good design begins with honesty, asks tough questions, comes from collaboration and from trusting your intuition." Freeman Thomas

“Often you have to rely on intuition.” Bill Gates

"An absolute can only be given in an intuition, while all the rest has to do with analysis." Henri Bergson

[TraineeHuman]

More quotes about intuition. Must be something in it if so many wise people have gone to the trouble of making statements about how great it is. Also, many of these quotes are simply about listening to your intuition. And the more you manage to listen, the more fully the HM descends even as you're doing so.

"Common sense is instinct. Enough of it is genius." George Bernard Shaw

"Life is like music; it must be composed by ear, feeling, and instinct, not by rule." Samuel Butler

"Truly successful decision making relies on a balance between deliberate and instinctive thinking." Malcolm Gladwell, Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking

"One of the reasons why so few of us ever act, instead of react, is because we are continually stifling our deepest impulses." Henry Miller

"If you let your fear of consequence prevent you from following your deepest instinct, your life will be safe, expedient and thin." Katharine Butler Hathaway

"Trust your hunches. … Hunches are usually based on facts filed away just below the conscious level. Warning! Do not confuse your hunches with wishful thinking. This is the road to disaster. " Dr. Joyce Brothers

" Life is one long struggle between conclusions based on abstract ways of conceiving cases, and opposite conclusions prompted by our instinctive perception of them." William James

"Remember, there are no mistakes, only lessons. Love yourself, trust your choices, and everything is possible. " Cherie-Carter Scotts

"Intuition is given only to him who has undergone long preparation to receive it." Louis Pasteur

“Never ignore a gut feeling, but never believe that it's enough.” Robert Heller American Business Writer, Editor of Management

“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” Albert Einstein

“A leader or a man of action in a crisis almost always acts subconsciously and then thinks of the reasons for his action.” Jawaharlal Nehru

“Intuition is what tells a wife her husband has done wrong before he thinks of doing it.” Anonymous

[TraineeHuman]

I suspect that a major reason why some people find the idea of astral travel fascinating is as follows. At some level these poeple realize that most of what nearly everyone does , and even is, is just habits -- mostly!

Most people don't realize that that is so. Which means that all, or nearly all, of those habits are subconscious or unconscious! (By that I mean what's below consciousness in the sense of being a lower level of existence.)

Another thing. Habits are by definition always purely mechanical, purely robotic things. Even when they're not purely physical, they mostly don't have scarcely as much life-force in them as the non-habitual things.

The astral world, by contrast, is full of life-force almost everywhere -- but mostly not manifested into physical form. Also, to consciously travel there or experience there means to be conscious, and therefore not habitual. That, I suspect is a major reason why it seems so attractive.

When people complain about how most are required to work in effect as a slave, that's a very insightful complaint, because it clearly recognizes that we are capable of something much better. And of course, the way the ruling elite manipulate society etc is altogether monstrous. But I'd like to ask, even in a much better, reformed world, what other work will one be able to do well if they are mostly still the slave of subconscious impulses? After all, animals are also slaves to their subconscious impulses.

How many of those working in government, in science and technology, in academia, in the arts, and so on, are truly doing more than mostly regurgitating certain habits -- called things like their "policy" or their "style" or their "school"? Doesn't that make a mockery of what their field of practice could and should be like, in a better, more conscious world?

This is also why I consider it's great when people devote time regularly to doing their best to consciously wake up. Whether through meditation, or astral travel, or whatever, or through looking with a critical and informed eye at the issues found in any of the areas this Forum covers.

[TraineeHuman]

According to much of Western psychology, the only way to truly get rid of a habit is to replace it with a less offensive habit; plus gradually de-condition (i.e. re-program) yourself by rewarding yourself for gradually doing it less and less.

But the only thing I know of that permanently eliminates the source of a habit is the HM. When the HM begins seriously entering into you, it causes all your habits to bubble up to the surface in your dreams, and thereby get dissolved.

Equally, it's a great thing for any of you to work on accurately remembering your dreams. This also brings some of the light of the HM right in and thereby at least partially dissolves your biggest and worst habits. I kid you not.

You won't realize they're just habits. In this thread I've been saying (most of) your dreams are your HM's attempt to show you whatever you'e not facing the most this week. But you're not facing such things only because the habit has convinced you that it's an indispensable part of your core. (And so many of those habits are made mostly out of fear -- fears you have no conscious knowledge of even having.)

So, recording or remembering your dreams is a much bigger deal than most would imagine. (Having been "outed" by being identified, your habits will no longer be permitted to show themselves freely while you're in the waking state.) That's the real, wonderful reason why I've encouraged it considerably, and done my best to offer intuitive interpretations of some aspects of members' dreams or OBEs.

Please do keep it up, folks -- or start this week. keep a dream diary (a large pad or exercise book, etc) by your bed. Write whatever you remember of your dreams in the instant you wake up -- however much it feels like a nuisance for you to pry yourself from your pillow and write while your mind is still in a haze. Give it a try for. say, three weeks. What have you got to lose? (That question was an attempted ironic joke.)

I happen to have a psychology degree and a social work degree, and lots of experience in counselling and psychotherapy and psychic healing. I believe this is the most powerful way there is that you can be healed of your habits.

Incidentally, nearly all of the dreams members have shared in this thread in detail have covered very broad areas -- which is great. To me it means they have broken through in quite a big way in each case. Even if sometimes a little fantasy gets mixed in with the details. I'm truly proud for them that they've managed to get to that point. But they need to keep going, until all the biggest/broadest/deepest habits have been dissolved forever -- through their dreams or OBEs, no less. Sounds like the stuff dreams are made of, n'est pas? But as Shakespeare said, our lives are of such stuff as dreams are made of.

[Jake]

What have you got to lose? (That question was an attempted ironic joke.)

Priceless!! LMAO...

[TraineeHuman]

Freed Fox,for instance, has already had an experience of the kundalini rising fully. The kundalini energy rises through the 4D energy/emotional/subtle body, not the physical body at all. But once it has done so, it opens up what was up till then a barrier to the flow of energy (again, at a 4D level) of the crown area at the top of the head and in the area above it.

What happens then is there is clear communication between the HM and the body-bound consciousness (which includes the lower intellect and the emotions). Well, as clear as "communication" can be between something formless and hugely silent (but "saying" more than any non-silence) and a being who is trying to "translate" everything into forms.

I'm saying this because at least AwakeInADream and Freed Fox have evidently both had the barrier to their HMs removed already. I want to reassure them, and any others, that they do already have direct access to the Higher, non-separative consciousness as well as their ordinary mind.

I'm not convinced it's necessary for the kundalini to rise fully before that barrier can be broken. In my own case the two didn't seem to coincide.

I do know, though, that in India many holy men and women apparently with fully risen kundalini fell victim to epilepsy. Earlier in this thread I had suggested to Deneon that the experience of the abnormal heat in one's body was "normal" for someone with activated kundalini, which I strongly suspected he had also. And that I had been experiencing such body heat for decades. I believe the reason why some of the Indian sadhus developed epilepsy was through dehydration -- because the extra heat burns up extra water in the body. This is why I suggest it helps such individuals to drink plenty of water -- preferably with a dash of sea salt or mineral salts or fruit juice.

Now that I look back, for close to two years it looks like my body may have stopped overheating altogether, after decades of doing so. It had also been getting progressively less overheated for a few years before that.

I had told Deneon he probably had no option but to get used to perspiring abnormally at times, and having to drink plenty of water, and probably, like me, sleep with at most a single sheet for covering, except maybe in winter.

There's one thing I forgot to mention. I did manage to determine for sure that the heat had something to do with the gigantic (electromagnetic) energy that the presence of the HM continually brings. I've now narrowed this down further, to the conclusion that the heat is all caused by something like "static" or friction. And I'm almost certain now that that static or friction or whatever amounts simply to some level of resistance against the HM's full force and against surrendering to the HM.

I hope this information can save some individuals years of sweat, if they can learn to truly surrender.

By the way, if your third eye has been opened (i.e. if you could swear that sometimes there is an open tunnel into your head from the center of the lower half of your forehead), then your crown area will also be open energetically. It will be sufficiently opened that the HM will indeed have descended as far down as the mid-head and be active from there. To those who've done that: welcome to the end game (regarding reincarnating).

[TraineeHuman]

For the HM -- and intuition -- to come down into you more fully, you need to cultivate a state of being very open. That state, though, is also something others around you may try to take advantage of unless you're vigilant about that.

You need to become extremely vulnerable to whatever comes down from the Divine and the higher. At the same time, being vigilant about some others around you will mean to at times deliberately not show too much tolerance, patience, empathy, and so on to, say, some workmates and quite possibly some family members. You have to put on an act of being "tougher" in that sense. Otherwise, someone will take you for an easy target. Imagine negotiating with someone while you let slip your huge natural smile, and that instantly shows a great generosity inside you. How would you expect that would affect the whole negotiation, and the implementation of its conclusion?

Also, you need to be vulnerable only to the Divine and Higher forces, but somehow not to the forces of Darkness which live somewhere inside you, in your shadow side.

Simply through being vulnerable to the Divine influences, you'll become more and more conscious of them. As you become conscious, you need to surrender to them, to deliberately invite them in.

If you are someone who hasn't as yet become conscious that the Divine influences are present in and around you, you need to keep in some fashion deliberately calling on them -- which can be something like prayer, if you like, or affirmation, I guess; or, alternatively, you can concentrate on your heart center and to opening your heart fully to them, i.e. to loving them. (Maybe you need to practice meditation intensively for a few months, though, before you'll appreciate how hugely lovable they are.) That will bring the HM's forces and power down, though only so far as to (the 4D energies of) your heart area and above (i.e. including the head area). Keep at it. "If you build it, they will come."

If you're able to practice feeling the aliveness in you and you're able to let go into that really fully, that will bring the HM (at first temporarily) down into all your body at least down to the belly. Since fear "lives" in the belly area, that will automatically burn fear (and anger, and hate) away any time it descends to there. Talk about healing yourself psychologically!

Then, the price of getting the HM to stay is endless vigilance, I'm afraid -- until you can walk daily in the Light.

Getting the HM to come down right to your feet and below -- and therefore fully into your subconscious and unconscious -- is the hardest part. That does take real surrender all right, real letting go, in a way different from anything you did before. Maybe that's a "story" for another day. Especially since everybody gets tripped up at that point and-- in some special way of their own or other -- really gets things quite wrong for a while then, as far as I've seen. The Major Leagues. But as J. Krishnamurti said, something inside you can flower, quite unexpected.ly out of the blue, any moment, if you're ready, and if you truly let it. But you really have to have made some room ready for the possibility of a life that's genuinely full of roses.

[Joe Akulis]

"By the way, if your third eye has been opened (i.e. if you could swear that sometimes there is an open tunnel into your head from the center of the lower half of your forehead)..."

Hmm. Now I'm starting to wonder if what I've been feeling on the forehead was indeed a blockage, or something else... Over the winter last year, I'd been noticing more and more often during the daytime as I'm going about my usual routines, this pressure/buzzing right in this exact location. I've learned enough to know that this wasn't anything related to headaches, because it only started up after I had been working on my meditation practices. Up until now, I've been treating it like a blockage of my third eye, and whenever I'm in meditation and I feel it coming on, just like when I think any other of my primary chakras are complaining, I use a technique to sort of accept the blockage more fully and then send it to Source. I wonder if it's not a blockage. I will tell you some more about things that have been going on with me lately. (Sometimes I swear the things you're posting here Trainee, it feels like you are in tune with our progress, intuitively.)

About two weeks ago, I decided that I need to work harder at ditching some of my energy-killing habits. A couple coffees in the morning, a couple nightcap alcoholic drinks in the evening. Rather than treat it like some kind of challenge, I've been sort of just allowing my HS to help push it aside. It's not really a conscious effort as much as just an understanding. Like they are some mechanistic habits that I need to get above.

Before I tried moving out of my lazy mode and working meditation into my routine again, I went through a 3 or 4 month period where a particular recurring dream had hit me a couple more times: I'm always back at the place where I went to college. But it's later on in life after I've been well into my career. Almost like my place of emplyment has agreed to keep paying me while I'm at school. :- ) And it's the beginning of a new school year. The same thing always happens. I never go to pick up the form that tells me what time and location where each of my classes is going to be throughout the week. I know that there are a bunch of courses I need to be attending, and that I'm there to work on some kind of advanced degree, but I never go to any of the classes.

I haven't ever asked you about this one because I figured the meaning was pretty clear. I came here to Earth to learn. And I'm putting it off. I need to get crackin'! So I pick up the meditation, and try to work at improving my energy levels, and no more recurring dream.

Speaking of energy levels, I wanted to ask if anyone else has noticed different times when they are either writing something in an Avalon post, or when speaking to a group of people, where your body starts shivering? Does anyone else get the shakes? This is happening a lot to me lately. I have a feeling it's a lot like the phenomenon experienced by the group of people who called themselves the Quakers, in the early days of the colonization of America by the Europeans. Some pretty religious folks in Pennsylvania would gather together and pray, and a lot of them would all start shaking. My take on all this is that it's similar to the full body vibrations that hit before someone achieves an OOB state. But not sure. I've been treating it like a side effect that occurs whenever I am allowing my HS to come through and do the shining for me. I try to consciously reassure my body that this is nothing to be alarmed about, that the experience is welcome. That seems to help.

My intuition tells me that my HS has decended to the throat chakra level, and is just dying to break through to my heart... Being male, and growing up around males who sorta behaved like listening to your heart is something that makes you a woman... I guess there's still a little hesitation there. But, another question, can my HS have descended to the level of my third eye chakra if I still don't see things? I mean, I can't see auras, or see anything when I meditate, so I figure I'm blocked still, but I really don't know. Could be that I just need more practice in meditation.

With gratitude and love to all in this thread,
Joe

[Joe Akulis]

Little Joe: "I know you're up there, and I know that you can hear. Show me how to get to know you. Teach me the way to reach you."

Big Joe: "Wait there. I'm coming to you."

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by seeker1972 (here)
I'm starting to wonder if what I've been feeling on the forehead was indeed a blockage, or something else... Over the winter last year, I'd been noticing more and more often during the daytime as I'm going about my usual routines, this pressure/buzzing right in this exact location. I've learned enough to know that this wasn't anything related to headaches, because it only started up after I had been working on my meditation practices. Up until now, I've been treating it like a blockage of my third eye, and whenever I'm in meditation and I feel it coming on, just like when I think any other of my primary chakras are complaining, I use a technique to sort of accept the blockage more fully and then send it to Source. I wonder if it's not a blockage.

As far as I know, a strong buzzing, particularly anywhere near the surface of the mid- or upper head, isn't a blockage but means that that area is indeed opened. Remember, the chakras aren't physical anyway, though they have such strong energy people mistake them for something physical. You may like to read one or more of Lobsang Rampa's books. I understand at least one of his books is all about the opening of the third eye. Since he came from the Tibetan tradition, it would have been combined with lots of meditation and with working on the heart center first before one moves on to the third eye.

I don't know if it's in the book by Rampa that Ray provided us with a pdf of earlier in this thread, in April I believe. (I haven't read most of that book yet.) Maybe sway or someone else knows?

Sometimes I swear the things you're posting here Trainee, it feels like you are in tune with our progress, intuitively.

Because each person's HM is non-separative in many ways, it's not surprising that synchronicities and telepathic exchanges of information are going on. When Ray was making posts, there were two occasions when he beat me by one or two minutes with a post that said something very similar to one I had just drafted or was just finishing to write and was intending to post right then -- and I had to cancel what I was about to post. I believe I also managed to steal his thunder somewhat at least several times too. At times I've experienced some other very interesting synchronicities with regard to members contributing to this thread too.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by seeker1972 (here)
My intuition tells me that my HS has decended to the throat chakra level, and is just dying to break through to my heart... Being male, and growing up around males who sorta behaved like listening to your heart is something that makes you a woman... I guess there's still a little hesitation there. But, another question, can my HS have descended to the level of my third eye chakra if I still don't see things? I mean, I can't see auras, or see anything when I meditate, so I figure I'm blocked still, but I really don't know. Could be that I just need more practice in meditation.

"Enlightenment" is a word that tends to be used to refer to any of a whole number of different things, which inevitably causes plenty of confusion. This is quite relevant to your insightful observation, Joe, that you're waiting for the HM to descend stably (permanently) into your heart center. I'll have to save discussion of the heart center for hopefully my next post, because that center serves different functions in different dimensional levels, which can also create confusion.

There are different levels of enlightenment. The first level is where the HM descends stably into the head area (the mid-head chakra). Obviously, its permanent descent into each of the major chakras further down the (subtle) body will be a slightly higher level of enlightenment.

Sometimes an individual experiences the HM's powerful descent into all the chakras for, say twenty minutes, but that may not be permanent and the HM will retreat but remain permanently at least in the head chakra. Nevertheless, that will often be a very transformative experience that totally changes how the individual sees reality from then on. Such an experience will include some experience of union with Source (actually not the fullest possible level of that, but the lowest). At that stage, Source will seem to the individual to be totally kind of aloof even though the individual sees that everything that exists inside it and that it is likewise somehow "in" everything. Fuller experiences of Source, if they happen, will eventually reveal to the individual that Source is not so "aloof" but quite "entangled".

Sometimes the entry of HM happens gradually. In the major Zen school, the Soto school, they prefer it to happen so gradually that the individual doesn't hugely notice the change until the HM has descended fully into the feet and therefore all the chakras.

[TraineeHuman]

True enlightenment, at any level as mentioned in my previous post, is not some kind of escapism. True, it's some kind of new birth, and that does involve a type of death or leaving behind. And it does, for example, always include some "escape" out of the matrix -- in just about any sense of "the matrix". But one "escapes" by facing and outgrowing, not by denying and not by losing one's vulnerability.

I prefer usually not to talk of "enlightenment", but of freedom from unhappiness instead. If I say I'm happy and you say no, I only think I'm happy, then I can ask: "Tell me what's the difference?" The only difference would be that I would be avoiding certain things or areas, carefully avoiding facing them at all. But the type of happiness that's linked to true enlightenment involves never avoiding anything, but facing it fully, as far as practicable.

For example, I would say I've outgrown movies on the whole. It's not that I'm avoiding movies, but I occasionally watch one that seems particularly promising and find I simply can't stay interested to stay in there till the end. After all, the reason why people watch movies or plays is primarily so they can vicariously play out some of the ego's dramas inside themselves. (The almost non-stop playing out continues in the subconscious for at least two days after you've finished watching. And drama is the ego's language, and only the ego's language.) I'd like to think I don't find some of the ego's nonsense so interesting or relevant, these days. I just don't find it interesting.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by seeker1972 (here)
About two weeks ago, I decided that I need to work harder at ditching some of my energy-killing habits. A couple coffees in the morning, a couple nightcap alcoholic drinks in the evening. Rather than treat it like some kind of challenge, I've been sort of just allowing my HS to help push it aside. It's not really a conscious effort as much as just an understanding. Like they are some mechanistic habits that I need to get above.

You bring up many issues at once, Joe, because you intuitively see in a glance how they're interconnected in the big picture. To the HM, everything always looks connected, and simple, and one whole.

That's great, because that's exactly how the HM works. From five years ago to three years ago and on, most of my posts used to be "multiple-issue" like that. I eventually realized I was brining up way too many issues at the one time for most readers to grok what I was talking about. Still, I suggest, do keep managing to look at the big picture, Joe -- and everyone! Because that's the HM's home turf.

In this post there's more on the HM's descent. In my next post I'll say more of what I understand regarding the heart center -- which should address some of the other concerns in your post.

As I've said, you don't ever really fight with your bad habits/vices. And you almost never fight your conceptualizing mind. The ego will still be largely in control of that mind. It will win that "battle" every time.

You have to continually take a step back from anything that's mechanical, such as habits. You have to silently shun them. I believe you're saying you're already (usually?) doing that? You have to let anything lower wither away through lack of attention.

I don't mean that you should totally repress your sexual or other desires. What I am saying is there's a lower expression and also a higher one. I guess in the case of sexuality, the higher form is the expression of love. Unfortunately, in our society we are barraged with artificial sexual messages as part of the control matrix. Our body consciousness finds most of these sexual "hypnoses" or impositions painful and offensive and extraordinarily insensitive to how it actually feels. We need something like the practices of tantric sex, where I understand traditionally one only engaged in intercourse once a month, for instance. Certainly tantric lovemaking, when done rightly, is a way of bringing the HM temporarily down to the sexual chakra, and that is an enormously healing thing to do. The HM will always guide us towards such Higher expressions of the lower chakras, provided we're receptive enough.

Dealing with the mind. It's not so much a matter of turning off the mind altogether as it is of transforming or replacing what had been the lower mind (which sees thoings from the outside only) with the Higher Mind.

What does that involve? In brief:

First always look, instead of thinking

The HM is the part of you that does the looking. This is in contrast to your analyzing/critical mind. We do need the latter as well. It's simply a matter of one of the two -- the looking -- always taking priority.

One final thing. You don't use your (lower) mind to make efforts to somehow pull down the HM. that won't work, though staying open for the HM to descend does help.

[Andrew]

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[TraineeHuman]

What is the heart center, and how does it fit in with everything else? Firstly, I'd like to say I wonder if Joe's interest in the heart center has something to do with his astral travel experiences. When a person is traveling in their (4D) emotional body -- which is usually the case for most astral adventurers -- they're in a rather wild world. This is because it's a world built of pure emotions. While we are in the physical body, the physical acts as a type of shock absorber that kind of dampens the full force of our emotions. It also creates limits on our emotions. In the physical world, we usually need to travel to where another person is, or at least communicate with them by some means, before we can express an emotion to them or regarding them. But in the 4D world we are by their side (the side of their 4D body) instantly, the moment we think of them. I'm wondering whether Joe's astral travel experiences may have influenced him to want to achieve something in his physical world life that's more similar to the emotional expressiveness of 4D.

Leaving that aside, let's look at the (4D) heart chakra. This actually does a few things. Firstly, half of its intended primary function is to filter out negative emotions. That means not to allow negative emotions (sadness, anger, fear, etc) to reach its level. Secondly, The other half of its major intended function is it amplifies whatever emotional energy it does allow through from the lower chakras.

Thirdly, it interconnects with the physical heart, which contains many brain cells and has an intensity of energy about a thousand times stronger than the brain -- though considerably less structuring or capacity to handle thoughts. Fourthly, through the thymus gland it regulates the level of life-energy in the physical body, and the flow of that energy.

In pratice the heart doesn't succeed in filtering out all negative emotion, though. What it doesn't succeed in filtering out is whatever has been lurking in your dark side -- which might equally well be called your "blind" side.

For instance, anger comes up out of your dark side and into your heart because your heart is fooled by the positive aspect associated with anger. This aspect concerns wanting to be successful in communicating something that the person you are angry with is failing to see and failing to be receptive to. The dark side of anger exists because anger involves the use of force -- ramming what you have to communicate down the person's throat. The physical heart -- which is also a brain -- gets fooled because when we're angry we temporarily aren't conscious of the negative side to what we're doing.

So far I'm talking mainly at a 4D level. Notice, however, how the 4D world is the world of emotions and therefore, naturally and ideally, connected with the heart center. Similarly, the 4D mid-head and inner eye chakra/center is naturally connected with the 5D world of pictures, thoughts, and concepts. And this is just one example of how interconnected the worlds of 3D, 4D and 5D get.

At this point I'd like to digress from the topic of the heart center. because I'd like to talk about what did and didn't happen (so far) with regard to "ascension". This will illustrate more about how 3D, 4D and 5D get interconnected. The next post will appear shortly.

[TraineeHuman]

"Ascension" did in one limited sense happen over 2012/2013. It wasn't "Ascension" as many fans of Ascension had conceived it to be. What I observed actually happened was, Gaia progressively strengthened and extended her energy field, apparently throughout the planet.

Specifically, starting somewhere around July 2012, Gaia began transforming the energy field at certain urban and agricultural locations. The energy at these locations suddenly had the strong, rather wild energy that up till then had only been found in some wild natural regions.

That energy is very re-vivifying. Truly spiritual people had before then felt strongly drawn to Nature and wanted to spend time in such places. But from July 2012, some urban and semi-urban locations became fully re-charged with the energies of Nature at her finest, no less. This re-charging gradually spread. By early March this year, all locations seem to have become totally re-charged -- certainly, at least, in the parts of Australia close to where I live and work. For various reasons, I suspect this has spread throughout the entire planet.

I need to be more specific about what I mean by "re-charged". (Can anybody who's been noticing it too help with what facts they've experienced or observed?) One thing I've been experiencing has been that Nature spirits, and their beautiful type of life-energy, are now strongly prevalent absolutely everywhere. Even in the most urban "concrete jungle" locations. It's almost as if Gai has everywhere -- and I mean everywhere -- transformed supposedly dead bitumen and glass and concrete into what feels like beings that are intelligent and sentient.

I guess that (and some other phenomena I haven't found an explanation for so far) amounted to "Gaia going 5D". So, one of the things predicted by the Ascensionists seems to have actually happened. But humanity going into 4D or even 5D while still in physical form? Not a crumpet, not a crumb, of anything resembling that.

My own limited experience has been that Gaia's ascended energies did indeed clean away or dissolve many great negative energies in the 4D worlds. Energies which had no doubt been there for millenia. (I hate sounding anything like a channeler. But I have to tell the truth as best I know it.) Nevertheless, we are still vulnerable to negative energies such as the aftereffects of Fukushima, HAARPs, and so on.

It also seems clear that the new Gaia isn't currently strong enough (yet, maybe?) to neutralize the effects of certain mind-control technologies. For instance, one member asked me to attempt some healing of his chronic anxiety and depression. I discovered (I believe) for certain that he was a victim of the type of thing Dr Barry Trower has described -- though a slightly milder version of that than Trower describes in his videos. To experience what this person's situation was really like, I needed to briefly astral travel to the hell-like area of the lower astral that he was currently stuck in. That area still existed in spite of Gaia's amazing "rebirth" of 2012/2013. I don't claim to have all the answers about this -- really, just incontrovertible clues.