The New World and Civilization (the messages from my Contact as a child)

[SilentFeathers]

Blufire, is it possible that your contactee revealed to you "their" desired and or predicted outcome? That what you are describing is one possibility among several possibilities?

BTW, much of what your saying IMO is VERY possible, some things you speak of are happening now...

Personally I believe nothing is written in stone and the future is yet undetermined, although much of what you describe is a very likely outcome considering observing the world around us right now....the ongoing messes and chaos possibilities mankind has created for himself, not to mention a surprise meteor/asteroid/comet strike or super volcano, etc. Anything is possible and in my opinion with anything being possible, certain unseen events can change the course of destiny, re-write the future so to speak.

Patterns and cycles in some way shape or form repeat and we are due, most are feeling this coming.

But for now, getting and being even more prepared the best one can be for whatever is coming is the wise route to take.

I hope your wrong, but I do think many things you mention will happen soon.

Regardless if you are 100% correct or not your message is important, keep doing what your doing.

Posted by blufire (here)
OKAY YOU GOT IT!! Here is is . . . . AGAIN

We (globally) are already very deep into being brought into a One World/ New World Order

THERE IS NO STOPPING THIS . . . . DOES EVERYONE HEAR ME???? THERE IS NO STOPPING THIS!!!!!! We are already deep into it for the past 10 or 15 years or more

WE (global humanity) are being totally stripped of all religion (including New Age), social structures, financial and economic structures, all governments and regimes, nationality, all borders and trade . . . . everything that keeps us polarized and divided.

THIS WILL CREATE HELL ON EARTH for the next 25 + years and until this new global structure is fully implemented. But there is no other way to do this other than how they are doing it. HOW MANY WILL JUST ideally sit by and let this happen???

Christianity, Muslim, Buddhism, Jewish etc will ALL BE GONE how hard and how destructive do you think things will become when even just religion is continually stripped away.

ALL FINANCIAL systems will be obliterated . . . . EVERYONES financially security they have worked for all their lives IS GOING TO BE GONE. Read Paul’s newest thread about this that he posted just this morning.

This also means EVERYONE on subsidies, ssi, food stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare and pensions of any sort or type, bonds, treasuries, mutual funds, cash, stocks EVERYTHING will be gone and this will happen very soon.

People will starve, people will kill each other, people will riot, it will be utter and complete chaos globally.


Regarding the ELE (extinction level event)

NO ONE and I mean NO ONE, the aliens, the cabal, the controllers, god, jiminii NO ONE knows when the next ELE will happen. CAN WE STOP IT? Probably NOT!! But the controllers or what ever you want to call them know it is just a matter of time and THEY ARE SCARED THAT IT COULD HAPPEN AT ANY TIME. We have already dodged many things already.

‘They’ are frantically preparing and have been preparing for 50+ years in a massive way.

GMO’s, Chemtrails, HAARP are a TINY part of this extreme preparation. And YES this part of the preparation is (to a large degree) winding down. I posted more than a year and a half ago that we would see chemtrailing and gmo production slow way down.

Yes . . .’they’ have been using our NORMAL and cyclical changing weather patterns to enhance and create certain ‘conditions’ to prepare. ‘They’ create (using haarp and chemtrails and other) the certain weather or climate or growing conditions so they can then produce the genetically modified (mutated) seed that will grow in that specific condition. That seed is being carefully saved and stored in the Seed Vaults and underground facilities WHEN THAT SEED WILL BE NEEDED to grow in extreme conditions after the ELE!! These different strains of mutated seed is being saved right along side all the heirloom and standard seed. ALONG with a DNA sample of almost EVERY living thing on the planet INCLUDING every human race and every blood type within every human race on this planet.

Every scientific and technological advancement is also being carefully stored and preserved in many places around our planet.

This is so WHEN the ELE occurs and our planet settles back down humanity will emerge fully intact and prepared SIMPLY to pick up from when the ELE hit.

I do not know either nor does anyone else what type of ELE it will be, but I do know water will flood and rise above where I was living in Kansas, which is just south of Kansas City. And I do KNOW this. I and the people I am responsible for are safe where I am living now and I KNOW this no matter if it is because of an ELE or the next 25 years of extreme hardship and chaos the planet will endure.

During the time before the ELE hits (could be tomorrow or in 100 years) and after the next 25+ years that we are brought into a Unified or One World scenario, humanity will continue . . . . there will be no killing off of thousands of people ‘they’ are not exterminating us anymore than we are exterminating ourselves.

The planet will become overpopulated. People will be live either in the ‘dead zones’ and they will be taken care of as much as possible with the natural resources available. Or a much smaller amount of the planets population will live in certain areas in close relationship with nature and sustainably and will thrive . . . .these areas will become legendary.

The mass majority will choose live in the dead zones.

It will be kinder for humanity if the ELE hits sooner than later.

“They” are not responsible for your welfare or feeding you or clothing or entertaining you or saving you from the chaos that will ensue during the establishment of the New World or when the ELE hits.

HEAR THIS . . . . ‘they’ are not responsible for how you CHOOSE to live your life. They are not responsible for YOUR CHOICE.

LOOK AROUND YOU!! Look at what is happening globally with what I just said above. Look without emotion or anger or bitterness or hatred . . . . just look at the harsh cold REALITY of this.

So YES, compassion, love, empathy, and consciousness all these things will also be paramount to human survival and THRIVING!! Whether you CHOOSE to live in the dead zones or in the safe zone areas

Both our reptilian practical side and our mammalian compassionate loving side. BOTH OF THEM balanced and melded and this is what we will see in the ‘safe zones’ or/and after humanity emerges from the ELE

Now . . . . . this only seems very bleak and dark and horrendous for all of us but this simply is not TRUE.

I and those I am responsible for are safe and very happy. I am prepared (almost now) in everyway . . . practically and spiritually. I am fully cognizant and conscious of what our future holds. If I don’t have food or resourses then it is only from my shortcomings.

And by the way . . . .I also am preparing for the time we are through the dark years. I will be waiting and watching to see what this New World looks like and how the next generations I will be responsible for teaching can enter in this New World in the best possible way.

We are Reptilian and we are Mammalian we carry both bloodlines and we need both bloodlines . . . .they are opposite in the most defined way possible and they are also exactly what we need to move forward into the future.

My reptilian nature and DNA IS more prominent I know this and fully accept this. I do not resent or hate this obvious trait of who I am . . . THIS IS my REALITY. But my more suppressed Mammalian nature is strong . . .without it and because I embrace this part of MY REALITY I love and have compassion and empathy and my heart and soul weeps for what I know many will endure. I am making and building as safe a HARBOR as I know how, using EVERY resource and technology I can afford. I am building a safe place for those I know will come my way.

So I am here on this forum getting ripped to shreds trying to warn and TELL THE MESSAGE I was given as a child and remember as an adult.

So either YOU HEAR me and try to work with me instead of trying to discredit or undermine me.

OR

I have NOTHING ELSE for any of you . . . NOTHING and I WILL BE DONE with this forum.

I am woman and hear me freaking ROAR . . . because I AM PISSED at what this forum does just as we are about to break through.

[Kristin]

But for now, getting and being even more prepared the best one can be for whatever is coming is the wise route to take.

In this Bluefire has been very wise indeed!

From the Heart,
Kristin

[sandy]

Hi Blufire,

Thank you for your compassion and passion in sharing your "knowing". The only thing I "know" is there is no end and what will be will be

[enfoldedblue]

Hi Bluefire,
It has been interesting for me to follow this thread. I can feel your passion and your conviction. I would just like to say that I hope regardless of what others say and feel you continue this thread and share your pieces of the puzzle. I have no doubt that there are important pieces for others in what you have to offer. However, that being said, I would like to point out the healthiness of having different perspectives and opinions shared in this thread.

bluefire: So I am here on this forum getting ripped to shreds trying to warn and TELL THE MESSAGE I was given as a child and remember as an adult.

So either YOU HEAR me and try to work with me instead of trying to discredit or undermine me.

OR

I have NOTHING ELSE for any of you . . . NOTHING and I WILL BE DONE with this forum.

Personally I don't see you being ripped to shreds in this thread. But I understand that this is your perception and I am sorry you feel this way.
Frankly I would find it very disturbing if everyone was hanging on your words and accepting all you say as gospel. There are many people who have had profound experiences that feel like 'the truth', all over the internet and on this forum...all these versions claimed as 'the truth' describe different outcomes for humanity. For someone who is not you, there is no reason to take your version as more real than anyone elses....no matter how adamant you are. Surely you can understand that. I am not saying this in anyway to diminish what you have to offer. I do see value in your sharing and hope you continue. But I also see value in all the different perspectives being presented. I would hope that you continue sharing your perspective, but try to let go of any attachment to being seen as 'right', or even to how others perceive you at all.

Thanks for sharing

[andrewgreen]

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
Hi Bluefire,
It has been interesting for me to follow this thread. I can feel your passion and your conviction. I would just like to say that I hope regardless of what others say and feel you continue this thread and share your pieces of the puzzle. I have no doubt that there are important pieces for others in what you have to offer. However, that being said, I would like to point out the healthiness of having different perspectives and opinions shared in this thread.

bluefire: So I am here on this forum getting ripped to shreds trying to warn and TELL THE MESSAGE I was given as a child and remember as an adult.

So either YOU HEAR me and try to work with me instead of trying to discredit or undermine me.

OR

I have NOTHING ELSE for any of you . . . NOTHING and I WILL BE DONE with this forum.

Personally I don't see you being ripped to shreds in this thread. But I understand that this is your perception and I am sorry you feel this way.
Frankly I would find it very disturbing if everyone was hanging on your words and accepting all you say as gospel. There are many people who have had profound experiences that feel like 'the truth', all over the internet and on this forum...all these versions claimed as 'the truth' describe different outcomes for humanity. For someone who is not you, there is no reason to take your version as more real than anyone elses....no matter how adamant you are. Surely you can understand that. I am not saying this in anyway to diminish what you have to offer. I do see value in your sharing and hope you continue. But I also see value in all the different perspectives being presented. I would hope that you continue sharing your perspective, but try to let go of any attachment to being seen as 'right', or even to how others perceive you at all.

Thanks for sharing

What a great post, summed up just how I was thinking. Blufire is clearly speaking from her heart and is brave speaking out. The most wise realise how little they know and I don't think any of us are beyond learning from what other members have to say.

[onawah]

Thanks to enfoldedblue for her-- as always-- gentle and wise perspective.
As she points out, there are many, many pieces to the puzzle and many predicted outcomes and possibilities.
We each have our own perspective and pieces to share.
It's fine to share what your piece is--that is what Avalon is all about.
But when we demand agreement, or seek a following, we run into problems, as we have seen from past attempts.

Some predictions come true, some are averted because we take heed of the warning, so to invest in a belief in one possible outcome as if it were written in stone is not something I choose to do.
Investing in a belief in a negative scenario helps to make that possibility a reality--that's a good way to help make a negative prediction come true, and I also reject that.
The possibility that seems most likely to me is that we have been getting just enough help so far to avert the worst scenarios, but not so much that we are not compelled to look at the problems that we have created on this planet and do something about them ourselves.
I think once there are enough awakened people, and people are awakening every day, we will get more help, and problems will be averted which may now seem inevitable, so I leave myself open to ever more positive scenarios as we evolve.
The more people are awakened to the power of Love, the better.
If our focus is on Love, not on Fear, then the more Love we can create, and the more Love we create, the more peace and harmony there is in the world.
IMHO, even cataclysmic catastrophes can be averted in this way, and it doesn't even have to be focused, as long as the focus is on Love.

[panopticon]

I would encourage Blufire to continue her story.
It is an interesting one and presents an alternative perspective from the norm that gets delivered.
I agree with buares and would like a clearer understanding of what "dead zones" and the "safe zones" means.
Thank you Blufire for posting your understandings.
Kind Regards,
Panopticon

[T Smith]

Posted by blufire (here)

But there is no other way to do this other than how they are doing it.

Hello Blufire,

This is an important message and I am grateful you have shared it. At some level, however, we should consider this message is nothing new. The Report From Iron Mountain and the findings from the Club of Rome come to mind as similar messages that advocate for world peace and humanity’s ultimate survival via unity, albeit contrived (by force) under an authoritative New World Order. It is my intuitional understanding that the architects and social engineers of this conceived order (who may be contactees as well?) genuinely perceive some form of higher love as the inspiration of their vision. In pursuit they employ our species own weaknesses (or what we judge as weakness in our quest for unity) to shape the social order, which many of us loath, e.g. the lust for power and corporate greed, to name but a few. We recognize these agents are destroying our free will and the planet itself. But if we dig deeper we might also come to understand that this isn’t the end game. The end came is complete control. Greed is but an asset of power, not an objective of it. Power is but an asset of control. In short, these types of assets are employed merely as a necessary means to achieve an end. My concern is – and this is where you and others come into play -- the controllers (as in the they who proclaim there is no other way) employ social engineers and various messengers in a similar fashion, who thus employ human frailties and base ambitions and base emotions en masse to affect an order conducive to their higher understanding of sustainable being or perhaps even integrated humanity among the larger and extended community of beings.

I’m not judging the message, either positive or negative. I use the words “higher understanding” and “higher love” only because I believe this is perhaps the best description of the dynamic at play. This does not mean (to employ judgment only now) that I resonate with the force that drives these beings, nor do I behold it a virtue by which to achieve our human destiny. I am merely being intellectually honest by recognizing those in power, who have the means to direct the fate of the species, judge differently and resonate with this type of perceived service-to-others. From your posts, I perceive the same residue in the message these beings have showed you.

If you are still in contact with these augurs, my comments are directed directly at them and to any other beings who employ the paradigm described above to affect social creation, for whatever the motive. This is not an imploration, a judgment, or an attack on the message. I sincerely hope you don't receive it that way. It is simply a declaration:

As a sentient being endowed with spirit, I declare an explicit transgression against the Divine Order for any being(s), human or otherwise, to interfere, manipulate, or engineer the evolution of any species being of the divine capacity in spirit to create their own collective destiny per their own collective creation, without their explicit approval or consent. Grant it, this transgression has been at the very cornerstone of human history on this planet, and it would be naïve not to recognize TPTB, being in for a penny, have no moral or amoral reason for not being in for a pound.

Whatever the motive, moral or amoral, I, as a sentient being endowed with spirit, do not grant consent to this violation against the Divine Order. I am under no illusion that any one voice of declared dissent, even if echoed en masse, will ever deter the strong from consuming the weak on this plane of polarity consciousness. As important as your message is, however, it is equally important for all spiritual beings to explicitly withdrawal consent if they are being consumed by beings of greater power and control without their explicit approval. So I will not mince words. I offer up my spirit, but I do not consent. If an ELE awaits the planet, if the manipulation of our DNA or vast reductions in population should be required for the species to survive in this manifestation of reality, if it be true that the only route to human survival is via contrived unity, eugenics, and enslavement of the species, I call upon the guardians who have bestowed this augury to abide by the will of Divine Order and to solicit first the explicit consent of the species before rendering this violence upon humanity and its unwitting souls to an imprisoned laboratory.

Is this the only way? I ask the question fully understanding it may be the only way.

If we as a species judge this course necessary or inevitable--indeed the only way--after full disclosure, full participation and upon the collective genius of the human spirit, I shall be the first to submit my existence into slavery or sacrifice my physical being, if population reduction is required or inevitable. I shall volunteer for any mission we, as a species, collectively self-determine, whether our destiny shall be fashioned or inevitable. We are warring animals, tribal, savage, and base, deeply rooted in separation from Source. We are also spiritual beings in transition to unity. This dialectic is beautiful and the very essence of creation. Allow for self-determination. I do not believe, in my profound ignorance and naiveté, that it is ever appropriate to enslave sentient and spiritual beings. Herding souls, who have incarnated in flesh to co-create their individual and collective destiny as a species, into a safety coral, via social engineering and in the name of avoiding extinction, be it the result or consequence of a first-time or ongoing experiment, is a violation of Being and not appropriate.

And so given my overwhelming ignorance I am left with so many questions. Are these conflicted human beings, both separate from Source yet endowed with One, not capable of discovering global consciousness on their own? Must it be foisted upon them? Who has determined what need be done to survive? By what and how was this determined? Is humanity not capable of this determination on its own? Are human beings so week in spirit that they truly won’t make whatever fate awaits them? Are we so compromised, in constitution, that we require further tinkering? When does the experiment stop? Are we simply too frail to survive? If that is so, is that not the natural order? On what grounds is spiritual oppression and enslavement warranted? Are control and violence but a perceived dynamic of the natural order? Are we but children then? Are we but prey? Are these the dynamics by which such violence is warranted and justified? Would we reject the current course of action given full disclosure of dynamic and motive were it founded on voluntarism and self-determination?

I have to beg for forgiveness of my profound ignorance. I respectfully hope these questions do not impede or derail your very important message. I am not all knowing and I may be profoundly mistaken in any judgment I’ve rendered and by any declaration I’ve made above. But these are but some of the questions I, in my very humble and imperfect human form, need answered by this discussion.

With warm regards and respect,

T Smith

[Limor Wolf]

Carefully worded: I am willing to put my fingerprint ONLY on this post above.

Thank you, T Smith!

[Calz]

We all want blufire to continue her story.

We all hope that her strength includes resisting perceived "attacks" when there are so clearly other avenues for interpretation and offered in good spirits in a forum environment.

We all hope she would consider all the times she was on "the other side of the fence" wanting to voice her own opinion in reaction to others in threads she was not completely on board with.

I truly hope this hurts no one but consider ...

Here is her first post I was aware of in a Monsanto thread I started:

Posted by blufire (here)
WARNING . . . .full bore rant and anger are about to be spewed.

I don’t post very much but this is something I do know something about.

I AM an organic farmer . . . not gardener. . . . farmer of 75 acres and for the last 30 years.

I apologize Calz-Avaretard but these types of lawsuits are asinine. They will be in court for years until all the money runs out (which will be quickly) and NOTHING will be accomplished. To a massive company like Monsanto this isn’t even an annoyance.

Example: The land I currently farm was conventionally farmed for at least 50 years and so the land had been registered with the USDA. Because of this past registry I get all the shiny brochures from Monsanto, chemical companies and other conventional seed companies. There was a “temporary “block against Monsanto the past couple years to restrict them from bringing in gmo-alfalfa and gmo-sugar beets. The individuals or group who brought this very expensive lawsuit against Monsanto thought they had accomplished the goal of Monsanto bringing in ANY more varieties of genetically mutated seeds.
Two weeks ago I got a letter from Monsanto announcing that alfalfa and sugar beet seed was available for purchase (after you sign the very convoluted contract of course). The letter included the court ruling that stated the block for alfalfa was overturned in Monsanto’s favor the January 27, 2011 and overturned for the beets February 8, 2011.

DO YOU NOT SEE!!!!! They never stopped producing the mutated seed because they KNEW they would be distributing and selling it. This means hundreds of thousands of pounds of these seeds have already been growing in the farm fields of the USA. So they would be available for purchase. The lawsuit didn’t even slow them down. Further proof is a friend of mine is wanting to put in a few acres of organic or “regular” alfalfa can’t find that seed . . . . it is gone. We so far found three 50 pound bags of two year old seed and when we asked the company if we could get more he said no because no one is producing regular seed anymore for farmers.

The conventional farmers here in Kansas are my neighbors and my friends. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. Farming is their livelihood and it is what they love. The row crop (corn, soy beans, wheat, etc) farmers have to farm 200 acres just to break even and after that they may clear $40 to $60 dollars an acre . . . . .you do the math. They are forced to use the gmo seed and chemicals.

Yes, there is heirloom and organic seed available for the backyard gardeners and small producers, but for those of us who farm acres the seed is simply not available or it is so expensive we can’t make the bottom lines work. We need hundreds of pounds of seed not ounces. We can’t use our own land to produce our own seed because we need that land for production.
Example: I was known many years for my sweet corn. We ran a “you-pick” operation and sold at the farmers markets. Just four years ago the sweet corn seed was $265 for a #50 bag, that same seed (when I can find it) is $625 for a #50 bag . . . I need a minimum of 6 bags. Add to that the cost of fuel, organic amendments and fertilizers and labor. We have not grown sweet corn the last two years and will not this year either. No matter how I work the bottom line I end up on the short end of the stick or I have to sell my corn and other vegetables at such a high price the people will not buy it. More often than not I have consumers become angry at the price because they remember when a dozen ears of corn cost $1.00. Consumers have been conditioned to cheap food and my experience is they will not support the small farmer for that very reason.

I have watched the past several years . . . . very motivated small organic farmers start up and work extremely hard, only to go flat broke and disappear in two years.

I don’t have the answers . . . . I do know I am completely frustrated and angry when I see these types of threads and asinine law suits NOTHING will come of them . . . I’ve seen them for years. We (organic farmers or growers) are jerked one way and then the other.

Organic growers were forced by the government and the consumers to become “certified organic” The “eaters” or consumers want that little green circle that deems the product “USDA CERTFIED ORGANIC” do you NOT SEE . . . . The organic farmer spends thousands of dollars to get that little green circle which then allows the GOVERNMENT (United States Department or Agriculture) to come onto your farm, test your soil and crops, find the “ violation” and rip your certification away. Mission accomplished.

I have had consumers get in my face and yell at me because I am not “USDA certified” and call me a liar and fraud and that I am not an organic grower because I don’t have the “little green circle”. I used to encourage them to come to my farm and see how the vegetables are grown . . . . very very few would. They would rather trust the bureaucracy of the government than the actual living breathing farmer.

I am exhausted.
I am broke.
I give up.

I am in the process of moving back home to the Appalachian Mountains. The people (my people) have been living off-grid and truly self sustaining for hundreds of years. I’m stepping out of this illusion and game.

Which is fine ... but now GMO is okay and necessary for the continuation of humanity?



Humanity ... without all that makes us human???



I get the don't shoot the messenger ... and it would seem clear that is the case here.


Jim Sparks tells his tale of many years of fully conscious abuctions where his perception and trust changed over the years as well as meeting with various "flavors" of reptiles.


Simon Parkes (though I cannot link due to a members only thread) suggests he has very direct (aka father) reptilian blood of the highest rank. He also suggests that the very fate of humanity rests on how the military/police/agency powers react to any orders to turn on humanity.


Anyway ... point being so many wildly diverse stories offered in complete honesty and sincerity yet all over the map.


I only offered a couple close enough to consider ... think about the rest ...

[gripreaper]

There is nothing new under the Sun.

In our experience on Lemuria, we polarized towards the feminine, and without the masculine inertia, our existence just pooped out and stopped. Been there, done that...

In our experience on Atlantis, we polarized to the masculine, embraced the outer technology and disregarded the feminine, and by force, without the balancing receptive and magnetic, we blew up the whole thing and it took thousands of years to re-establish. Been there, done that...

We lived the Golden Years in the early epochs of Egypt, in perfect balance as gnostics of the true knowledge of energy, the righteousness of the "right use" of energy, in balance. Been there, done that...

Then why choose to polarize once again towards the masculine and take the route of outside technology? This is where we are now. Listening to astral beings who reside in duality suggesting we take the route of the polarized masculine in order to achieve the gnostic balance for sentient souls to come into unity consciousness and live in balance is, well... Nothing new under the Sun. Been there, done that...

We have the inner core, visceral, cellular, reptilian/ mammalian DNA soul memory, all of us, of all the polarized epochs as well as the balanced epochs, so why choose to go through a cataclysmic experience again in order to obtain unity? I'm not choosing that. My inner gut and my inner experience is urging me NOT to do that again.

To say that a catastrophic ELE timeline is inevitable and that there is nothing we can do about it, negates free will. If we are governed by outside influences and there is a divine destiny to which we have no say so or any influence, then what in the hell are we doing here? What is the benefit of uniting both polarities of consciousness without the benefit of contrast?

I'm tired of these malevolent astral beings laying claim to this planet and also imminently determining its path or its outcome. I say, we choose. I say, we embrace the INNER technology as we did during the gnostic period of our experience and bring it into balance with the outer technology. I say, we are sentient enough, awake enough, and ready enough to CHOOSE to say NO to any other path, to say NO to the "there is nothing we can do" path, to say NO to "we are in control and we are doing this to "save" humanity from an ELE event which is inevitable and therefore we need to make GMO foods and chemtrails to have life sustaining food for AFTER the event....

Who needs food when you are sentient? Life force is everywhere in everything and we can breathe it in if WE CHOOSE. Who needs any of the crap we claim to have value now? Electricity and oil are obsolete and have been for at AT LEAST a century. The existing patriarchal structure is collapsing, yes that is true, but we DO NOT need to go through 25 years of hell to embrace that which already exists and that which is inherent within us all.

If we collectively choose to remain ignorant, we choose to embrace great suffering and pain, and we choose annihilation, then who am I to judge or change this outcome? If an ELE event is inevitable, will my soul not continue on its sentient path towards other planets and other dimensions and galaxies? Is it over for me if an ELE event occurs and I die during the event? Does that mean my soul loses its individuated consciousness and I return to the void undifferentiated?

I am personally choosing to remain sentient, choosing to balance the reptilian masculine with the mammalian feminine within, choosing to emanate a balanced resonance into the matrix of all things, and choosing to embrace the other dimensions and choosing to listen to my other senses of claireaudience, clairesentience, and clairegnosis. I've also got six months worth of long term storage foods and enough heirloom seeds to plant an acre.

Collectively, all it would take is for ONE thing to happen, for energy, which is in abundance, to be exposed, recognized and then... the whole paradigm collapses, and a massive surge of power in balance within and without all, both implicate and explicate, destroys the divisiveness and extreme polarities which have been fostered by the incarnate controllers and these malevolent astral beings... evaporates!

That's what I'm choosing. Anyone else choosing that too?

[Gardener]

Grip:--->That's what I'm choosing. Anyone else choosing that too?

Yes, we have been round that loop so many times, and still the dark satellite exerts its influence bleeding the life essence from beautiful souls who have no other desire than to work co-linear with the earth and her inhabitants in an abundant life.

I often think if we had created the internet inside of us instead of projecting it outside...........

[onawah]

We had only to project the Internet outside of us so that we can take the next step and instead, manifest it inside of us.
Brilliant post, Gripreaper! Thanks! And yes, I'll choose that too...

[Calz]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

That's what I'm choosing. Anyone else choosing that too?

Perhaps your best and most important post among so many you have shared.

To me ... a no brainer if it is within our free will choice.

Is it?

Or else is this simply the circle of time ... movement of the solar system ... end of the cycle ... harvest?

... times up ... game over ... everyone based on their "progress" (consciousness) go to your next learning station ...


I hope your perception is closer to what comes.


Yes ... I choose.

[onawah]

I also find lots of reason to hope in the testimony we have from many indigenous elders, and artifacts such as those discussed here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...698#post748698
which point to a very positive emerging paradigm, and assistance for us in getting there such as the artifacts which portray ET ships averting ELE events.

[Flash]

We have to remember that those astral being as gripreaper says have no power in physicality, none at all, if they are not going through us. Their only power is through our brains and our programmation.

Working through the heart annihilate their power. Being a "stupid" (no brain needed) hearted person annihilates their power. We got to let the brain serve the heart - and clean up our thinking processes and our emotional outputs.

Those are astral/mental beings trying to convince us they are Superior, when in fact the chose again and again the wrong developmental path. Why would we listen? They are stucked in astral/mental field and need to feed on us. Why would we give them food.

Accepting to go technological because they told us is accepting to let go of our own evolution. Technology is fine, based on evolution, not on imposition.

Anyhow, apart from computers, which revolutionary break through have we had in the last fifty years. Even GMO is not a break through, modifications were done for centuries, albeit they were easier to absorb by the body, not being spurred for the unique needs of commerce. The discovery of ADN may be, that is about it. For the moment. I bet it will remain that way, because knowledge is power.

[soleil]

i dont know why im even posting this, but please dont hate me for sharing my 2cents.
this all seems to be a random case of personal fear porn. i mean, its seems to be a personal belief/postulate that is being given/pushed bc someone dangled a carrot of an out there experience to all of you, who wanted to hear it.

im sorry, but i do not read or intuit any truth to this ELE story. i understand that the communication you were given sounds true, because it was provided to you. i do not discount your experience. but it truly may not itself (the message given to you blufire) be of the absolute truth. for another, monsanto is the devil, so you lost me after that....

i think personal decisions/beliefs of truth run this town(reality) so, be careful what you wish for, or be careful what you place any stock into. id say disinvest yourself from the message and live like it aint gonna happen. not out of cognitive dissonance, but out of our own personal power!

(and grow non gmo, that you can feel proud of.....ack, i can hardly believe youre calling the end result organic. )*runs away*

[Conehead]

Posted by Calz (here)
We all want blufire to continue her story.

We all hope that her strength includes resisting perceived "attacks" when there are so clearly other avenues for interpretation and offered in good spirits in a forum environment.

We all hope she would consider all the times she was on "the other side of the fence" wanting to voice her own opinion in reaction to others in threads she was not completely on board with.

I truly hope this hurts no one but consider ...

Here is her first post I was aware of in a Monsanto thread I started:

Posted by blufire (here)
WARNING . . . .full bore rant and anger are about to be spewed.

I don’t post very much but this is something I do know something about.

I AM an organic farmer . . . not gardener. . . . farmer of 75 acres and for the last 30 years.

I apologize Calz-Avaretard but these types of lawsuits are asinine. They will be in court for years until all the money runs out (which will be quickly) and NOTHING will be accomplished. To a massive company like Monsanto this isn’t even an annoyance.

Example: The land I currently farm was conventionally farmed for at least 50 years and so the land had been registered with the USDA. Because of this past registry I get all the shiny brochures from Monsanto, chemical companies and other conventional seed companies. There was a “temporary “block against Monsanto the past couple years to restrict them from bringing in gmo-alfalfa and gmo-sugar beets. The individuals or group who brought this very expensive lawsuit against Monsanto thought they had accomplished the goal of Monsanto bringing in ANY more varieties of genetically mutated seeds.
Two weeks ago I got a letter from Monsanto announcing that alfalfa and sugar beet seed was available for purchase (after you sign the very convoluted contract of course). The letter included the court ruling that stated the block for alfalfa was overturned in Monsanto’s favor the January 27, 2011 and overturned for the beets February 8, 2011.

DO YOU NOT SEE!!!!! They never stopped producing the mutated seed because they KNEW they would be distributing and selling it. This means hundreds of thousands of pounds of these seeds have already been growing in the farm fields of the USA. So they would be available for purchase. The lawsuit didn’t even slow them down. Further proof is a friend of mine is wanting to put in a few acres of organic or “regular” alfalfa can’t find that seed . . . . it is gone. We so far found three 50 pound bags of two year old seed and when we asked the company if we could get more he said no because no one is producing regular seed anymore for farmers.

The conventional farmers here in Kansas are my neighbors and my friends. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. Farming is their livelihood and it is what they love. The row crop (corn, soy beans, wheat, etc) farmers have to farm 200 acres just to break even and after that they may clear $40 to $60 dollars an acre . . . . .you do the math. They are forced to use the gmo seed and chemicals.

Yes, there is heirloom and organic seed available for the backyard gardeners and small producers, but for those of us who farm acres the seed is simply not available or it is so expensive we can’t make the bottom lines work. We need hundreds of pounds of seed not ounces. We can’t use our own land to produce our own seed because we need that land for production.
Example: I was known many years for my sweet corn. We ran a “you-pick” operation and sold at the farmers markets. Just four years ago the sweet corn seed was $265 for a #50 bag, that same seed (when I can find it) is $625 for a #50 bag . . . I need a minimum of 6 bags. Add to that the cost of fuel, organic amendments and fertilizers and labor. We have not grown sweet corn the last two years and will not this year either. No matter how I work the bottom line I end up on the short end of the stick or I have to sell my corn and other vegetables at such a high price the people will not buy it. More often than not I have consumers become angry at the price because they remember when a dozen ears of corn cost $1.00. Consumers have been conditioned to cheap food and my experience is they will not support the small farmer for that very reason.

I have watched the past several years . . . . very motivated small organic farmers start up and work extremely hard, only to go flat broke and disappear in two years.

I don’t have the answers . . . . I do know I am completely frustrated and angry when I see these types of threads and asinine law suits NOTHING will come of them . . . I’ve seen them for years. We (organic farmers or growers) are jerked one way and then the other.

Organic growers were forced by the government and the consumers to become “certified organic” The “eaters” or consumers want that little green circle that deems the product “USDA CERTFIED ORGANIC” do you NOT SEE . . . . The organic farmer spends thousands of dollars to get that little green circle which then allows the GOVERNMENT (United States Department or Agriculture) to come onto your farm, test your soil and crops, find the “ violation” and rip your certification away. Mission accomplished.

I have had consumers get in my face and yell at me because I am not “USDA certified” and call me a liar and fraud and that I am not an organic grower because I don’t have the “little green circle”. I used to encourage them to come to my farm and see how the vegetables are grown . . . . very very few would. They would rather trust the bureaucracy of the government than the actual living breathing farmer.

I am exhausted.
I am broke.
I give up.

I am in the process of moving back home to the Appalachian Mountains. The people (my people) have been living off-grid and truly self sustaining for hundreds of years. I’m stepping out of this illusion and game.

Which is fine ... but now GMO is okay and necessary for the continuation of humanity?



Humanity ... without all that makes us human???



I get the don't shoot the messenger ... and it would seem clear that is the case here.


Jim Sparks tells his tale of many years of fully conscious abuctions where his perception and trust changed over the years as well as meeting with various "flavors" of reptiles.


Simon Parkes (though I cannot link due to a members only thread) suggests he has very direct (aka father) reptilian blood of the highest rank. He also suggests that the very fate of humanity rests on how the military/police/agency powers react to any orders to turn on humanity.


Anyway ... point being so many wildly diverse stories offered in complete honesty and sincerity yet all over the map.


I only offered a couple close enough to consider ... think about the rest ...

Every single thing that blufire has wrote above is 100% true…sucks! It is so hard for non-ag people to get their arms around…makes no sense to consumers. There are answers….figure out what population you would like…food production gets easy!!!

[Flash]

Posted by Conehead (here)

Posted by Calz (here)
We all want blufire to continue her story.

We all hope that her strength includes resisting perceived "attacks" when there are so clearly other avenues for interpretation and offered in good spirits in a forum environment.

We all hope she would consider all the times she was on "the other side of the fence" wanting to voice her own opinion in reaction to others in threads she was not completely on board with.

I truly hope this hurts no one but consider ...

Here is her first post I was aware of in a Monsanto thread I started:

Posted by blufire (here)
WARNING . . . .full bore rant and anger are about to be spewed.

I don’t post very much but this is something I do know something about.

I AM an organic farmer . . . not gardener. . . . farmer of 75 acres and for the last 30 years.

I apologize Calz-Avaretard but these types of lawsuits are asinine. They will be in court for years until all the money runs out (which will be quickly) and NOTHING will be accomplished. To a massive company like Monsanto this isn’t even an annoyance.

Example: The land I currently farm was conventionally farmed for at least 50 years and so the land had been registered with the USDA. Because of this past registry I get all the shiny brochures from Monsanto, chemical companies and other conventional seed companies. There was a “temporary “block against Monsanto the past couple years to restrict them from bringing in gmo-alfalfa and gmo-sugar beets. The individuals or group who brought this very expensive lawsuit against Monsanto thought they had accomplished the goal of Monsanto bringing in ANY more varieties of genetically mutated seeds.
Two weeks ago I got a letter from Monsanto announcing that alfalfa and sugar beet seed was available for purchase (after you sign the very convoluted contract of course). The letter included the court ruling that stated the block for alfalfa was overturned in Monsanto’s favor the January 27, 2011 and overturned for the beets February 8, 2011.

DO YOU NOT SEE!!!!! They never stopped producing the mutated seed because they KNEW they would be distributing and selling it. This means hundreds of thousands of pounds of these seeds have already been growing in the farm fields of the USA. So they would be available for purchase. The lawsuit didn’t even slow them down. Further proof is a friend of mine is wanting to put in a few acres of organic or “regular” alfalfa can’t find that seed . . . . it is gone. We so far found three 50 pound bags of two year old seed and when we asked the company if we could get more he said no because no one is producing regular seed anymore for farmers.

The conventional farmers here in Kansas are my neighbors and my friends. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. Farming is their livelihood and it is what they love. The row crop (corn, soy beans, wheat, etc) farmers have to farm 200 acres just to break even and after that they may clear $40 to $60 dollars an acre . . . . .you do the math. They are forced to use the gmo seed and chemicals.

Yes, there is heirloom and organic seed available for the backyard gardeners and small producers, but for those of us who farm acres the seed is simply not available or it is so expensive we can’t make the bottom lines work. We need hundreds of pounds of seed not ounces. We can’t use our own land to produce our own seed because we need that land for production.
Example: I was known many years for my sweet corn. We ran a “you-pick” operation and sold at the farmers markets. Just four years ago the sweet corn seed was $265 for a #50 bag, that same seed (when I can find it) is $625 for a #50 bag . . . I need a minimum of 6 bags. Add to that the cost of fuel, organic amendments and fertilizers and labor. We have not grown sweet corn the last two years and will not this year either. No matter how I work the bottom line I end up on the short end of the stick or I have to sell my corn and other vegetables at such a high price the people will not buy it. More often than not I have consumers become angry at the price because they remember when a dozen ears of corn cost $1.00. Consumers have been conditioned to cheap food and my experience is they will not support the small farmer for that very reason.

I have watched the past several years . . . . very motivated small organic farmers start up and work extremely hard, only to go flat broke and disappear in two years.

I don’t have the answers . . . . I do know I am completely frustrated and angry when I see these types of threads and asinine law suits NOTHING will come of them . . . I’ve seen them for years. We (organic farmers or growers) are jerked one way and then the other.

Organic growers were forced by the government and the consumers to become “certified organic” The “eaters” or consumers want that little green circle that deems the product “USDA CERTFIED ORGANIC” do you NOT SEE . . . . The organic farmer spends thousands of dollars to get that little green circle which then allows the GOVERNMENT (United States Department or Agriculture) to come onto your farm, test your soil and crops, find the “ violation” and rip your certification away. Mission accomplished.

I have had consumers get in my face and yell at me because I am not “USDA certified” and call me a liar and fraud and that I am not an organic grower because I don’t have the “little green circle”. I used to encourage them to come to my farm and see how the vegetables are grown . . . . very very few would. They would rather trust the bureaucracy of the government than the actual living breathing farmer.

I am exhausted.
I am broke.
I give up.

I am in the process of moving back home to the Appalachian Mountains. The people (my people) have been living off-grid and truly self sustaining for hundreds of years. I’m stepping out of this illusion and game.

Which is fine ... but now GMO is okay and necessary for the continuation of humanity?



Humanity ... without all that makes us human???



I get the don't shoot the messenger ... and it would seem clear that is the case here.


Jim Sparks tells his tale of many years of fully conscious abuctions where his perception and trust changed over the years as well as meeting with various "flavors" of reptiles.


Simon Parkes (though I cannot link due to a members only thread) suggests he has very direct (aka father) reptilian blood of the highest rank. He also suggests that the very fate of humanity rests on how the military/police/agency powers react to any orders to turn on humanity.


Anyway ... point being so many wildly diverse stories offered in complete honesty and sincerity yet all over the map.


I only offered a couple close enough to consider ... think about the rest ...

Every single thing that blufire has wrote above is 100% true…sucks! it and is so hard for non-ag people to get their arms around…makes no sense to consumers. There are answers….figure out what population you would like…food production gets easy!!!

[/LIST]
I know that what blufire wrote is sincerely what she lived and think. I am so sorry too for organice farmers having it so tough. And for all of us who will end up sick from generation to generation. Will we have to all move in countries that have forbidden GMO seeds?

And, as Conehead is saying, do not shoot the Messenger, which is entirely true. I would also like to have some more of Blufire story.

However, I do have to correct some information that Calz is reporting.

Here

Jim Sparks tells his tale of many years of fully conscious abuctions where his perception and trust changed over the years as well as meeting with various "flavors" of reptiles.


Simon Parkes (though I cannot link due to a members only thread) suggests he has very direct (aka father) reptilian blood of the highest rank. He also suggests that the very fate of humanity rests on how the military/police/agency powers react to any orders to turn on humanity.

Jim Sparks is probably right about different flavors of reptiles. I do not know, I haven't followed him throughout.

However, i did follow Simon Parkes eveything. Yes, he suggest that he has very direct reptilian link to a Draco king. He was kind of adopted from the Draco and offered as a child to be working with them. He was offered the same from the Mantids and preferred the Mantids.

Again and again, he says that the reptilian Dracos do not care for humans, they despise humans. Which is not the case of Mantids which are rather neutral.

He also repeated in many videos that it was quite hard to be around the Reptilians, although he respects and admire their civilisation. So it does not seem that Simon is telling us to be on Draco Reptoid sides.

What I heard was not that at all. On the contraty, if you end up in the 4th dimension altogether, it is full of self serving entities and humans will be in dire circumstances. From his point of view, we got to make the jump to fifth.

From mine, this is a different story, from mine, we've got to integrate the fifth here. And we are not far from missing our chance, in which case we may have to do what blufire suggest, in which case we are in for a very difficult evoluationary path, if we do not devolve altogether, or stop evolving. Which would be very sad for the souls.

Everything has to do with souls, this is a souls conquest, souls power usage, soul integration, soul jumping, soul families, even for Simon.

[Conehead]

Flash, disregard my post