Chris Thomas

[turiya]

Posted by Herbert (here)
10 Questions with answers from Chris Thomas

I was] asked me to share our thanks to Chris Thomas by showing him what he had found which confirmed the assessment of Andrew Bartzis provided by Chris.

As Chris says, he suffers from RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury) so his answers are briefer than they might have been.

Chris [said] he has done about 10 internet radio shows around the world and would be happy to do another one. So if enough people here have questions regarding clarification beyond what he has already written in his books and essays, I’m hoping that –just maybe -
we could arrange for an interview . . . I will have to ask . . .

Here are the Q&A:

Hi Herbert

That's the problem with channelled messages, they can appear to be one thing but be something else entirely. Just try to ignore anything channelled as it is all Velon.

When you ask questions, you don't ask little ones so I will see what I can do.


Hi Chris,

A number of us who absolutely resonate with your material have been discussing, and one very sharp individual has confirmed your analysis and provided the evidence contained in this youtube video where Bartzis lets it slip (catching himself in mid sentence) that he has been channelling Ashtar Command;

Some questions my friends would like to ask you:

1) Chris, several of my friends wonder if you are planning any more books or articles regarding the Akashic, and if you plan on doing any more updates on the human plan. Also would you be available to do an internet radio interview?

At the moment, all of the energies of the new sun are hitting very hard and so the whole situation is in a state of flux. This makes it difficult to come to any useful conclusions and so I am not planning any new books (they take about 18 months to produce in any way) or a new essay just yet.

I have already done about 10 internet radio interviews with various stations around the world . . .

2) Since experiences expand human conscious sentience and that is stored energetically in our soul’s Akashic DNA (increasing the soul energy frequency and expanding size – I guess), do all individual planets also have their own Akashic stored in their soul’s energetic DNA?

The Akashic exists on many multiple levels, none of which are fractal-like or hologram-like. As events occur, on planets, in solar systems, in galaxies etc, they are all recorded in the "local" Akashic. All of these local records interconnect with each other to build up to a Universal Akashic. Ultimately, the purpose of the Akashic is to allow the Creator to learn from the experiences undergone in a particular universe.

Strictly speaking, souls do not have DNA, at least not in the way that humans have DNA. DNA memory only exists on Earth because of our peculiar physical nature and the division of the soul into two.


3) I understand that the moon’s main function is to act as a (electromagnetic) balance tool which stabilizes Earths wobble, ranging from 17 degrees to 23 degrees, as we jointly spiral around the spiralling sun . . .

Knowing that our moon is positioned in such a way between the Sun and Earth that scientists say goes statistically and significantly against the random odds, does that mean our moon has a soul consciousness and therefore its own Akashic?

Or was it simply that Earth consciousness sequestered a piece of the exploded planet and it somehow became sort of globe shaped and Earth/sun consciousness (gravity) put it where it would, fortuitously, allow life to continue on Earth?

We have been told there is a lot of technology on the Moon and there is a base on the dark side. Is the Moon really hollow?

When the first two planets within our solar system decided to leave, they exploded causing the asteroid belt. Both of these planets exploding close to the orbit of the Earth, generated a disruption to the local energy patterns giving the Earth a slightly eccentric orbit. The Earth "captured" about one quarter of one of the planets to use as a counter balance to settle Her orbit. In doing this, the planetary consciousness (of the destroyed planet) left a portion of its consciousness in the fragment to help the Earth. This fragment became the moon and the portion of the original consciousness still remains.

See the essay I did earlier on this year about gravity but, the moon is not held in place by gravity. Gravity, as described by scientists, does not exist. All planets, moons, solar systems, galaxies and the Universe itself hold their relationships by conscious interaction - what scientists call electro-magnetic forces.

There is long-standing base on the dark side of the moon - since the early 1950's - but I would not encourage anyone to try remote viewing it as there are far too many psychic watchers who will attack if they sense your presence. Mars also has a human base, it has been there since the mid 1980's.

The moon is not hollow as such. If you think of magma flows here on Earth, when they cool, gas voids are formed under the hard shell. The same with the moon - it is full of gas voids as the original planet's core cooled. It "rings" if you strike it because of these gas voids.


4) Does the Akashic hold anything that is denoted as “Time Wars”; a Quarantine that is presently in place surrounding Earth or our Solar System? Apart from the Velon travelling back in time are there any other instances where time travel has affected life on Earth?

The simple answer is no.
It is not possible to travel forwards in time as the future has not yet happened - see Q9 .

This is my own interpretation: [Perhaps I’m confused but if the future has not yet happened then the Greys that claim to be our future human selves (re: George Kavassilas) could not actually exist. Could they? Alternative time-lines always confuse me. Actually it would make a good question for Chris. ]

5) Given that the Reptilian race were the 14th Faction from another Universe, does that mean there are zero Reptilians left in our Universe?

Correct, they and all of their energies were removed with the 14th Faction in 2003.


6) A lot of people report abductions and even cross bred children with various races like the Greys. I know you said that for example Mantis beings (and I guess also Lion beings) are not in the Akashic and must be bio-mechanical technology based – Is that abduction type of experience based on a higher-self, soul contract (karma) or was it limited to the period prior to 2003 when the 14th Faction energy was still present in our Universe and being used by the NSA, etc. taking away people’s free will?

That is a difficult question to answer precisely.

I'll give you my experience. Some years ago, I woke up one morning knowing that something had happened during the night but I could not identify it. All I knew was that I had a very sore bottom (yes, the infamous anal probe is true - and they are not collecting farts). Gradually, I had recollections of being taken out of my bed and examined by the "Blues".

A couple of months after the first "abduction", it happened again. But, this time, I was aware of what was happening and I said (psychically) to the Blues carrying me: "you are not going to examine me again as I do not want you to. But, seeing as you are here, can I have a tour of the ship?" This they agreed to very happily and they gave me a full tour.

I haven't been "abducted" since.

The lesson here is that they turned up and asked my higher self if it was OK to take me for examination. As soon as I said no, they were happy not to do any more and they were all very friendly.

So that was my personal experience of abduction. But there are others. I have carried out extensive research on many levels about these hybrids and my conclusion is this:
THE VAST MAJORITY OF CLAIMED ABDUCTIONS ARE CARRIED OUT BY THE MILITARY, AND NOT ALIENS, AND THOSE ABDUCTED UNDERGO MIND CONTROL OR HYPNOSIS TO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED WHATEVER IT WAS BUT DID NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN.
THEY ARE ALSO INDOCTRINATED TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE HYBRIDS OF HUMANS/ALIENS OR HYBRIDS OF ALIEN RACES. THE MANTIS AND LION BEINGS DO NOT EXIST.

Since about the year 2000, very, very few abductions have been carried out by any alien race - they have all been by the military.

Because so many people are aware of the Grey race, they have been used by the military in their propaganda, misinformation and disinformation and so virtually every single story about Grey hybridisation is false and intended to add to confusion and fear. Don't forget that one of the next things on their "to do list" is an alien invasion of the Earth.

If they can make people believe that the Greys are the bad guys, they have a ready built argument to weaponise space (sorry, make the weapons they already have in space known).


7) Since they are still using psychic children in spy ops, are these children being forced into this because of soul contracts?

The alphabet spaghetti agencies all have psychic trackers or use specialist contractors (such as the College for Noetic Sciences) to track down children with psychic potential - usually as young as 5 years old. They also recruit adults who do so voluntarily. If the children live in America, they approach the parents and the parents agree to their children working for the government. Some parents are paid for their children others agree because it is their patriotic duty.

Other children are taken from the streets (abducted) particularly in countries such as the US, Brazil and Mexico. Many are brought from orphanages in countries such as Rumania (Indigo Children). The children are persuaded that they are "special" and that they will be allowed to explore their special potential in a special facility.

When they get to this "special facility", they are fitted with a colostomy bag and a catheter and strapped to beds in "cells" of 10 children. They are then given instructions on what they are to do. If the children do as instructed, they are "rewarded" with chemicals that stimulate the body's pleasure centres. If the children refuse, they are punished with chemicals that cause pain.

These are not soul contracts but the agencies feeding off gullible and confused children. This has come from personal contact with a few of these "cells".


8) FOURTEENTH FACTION QUESTION:
Chris - In Project Human Extinction, you explain how the FOURTEENTH FACTION gained access to Earth, and “infected” some 33,000 souls that were on their way toward Earth to have a physical life. And that some of the 14th Faction energy patterns were picked up by some of these souls, which gave them the ability, or desire, to remove freedom of choice from others. For example, one affected soul manifested as the human that you identify as Alexander the Great and also one as George Bush Sr.

You say, it took a while for the FOURTEENTH FACTION to be evicted from Earth. This came to be completed in the year 2003, whereby the 33,000 souls who chose to hold onto those frequencies could no longer make use of this energy in this way.

Q: Although you have not said it in your book, is it correct to assume that the 9/11 event (as well as the 7/7 event, war on terror ) was the direct result of the affect of FOURTEENTH FACTION energies influence over those 33,000 souls travelling toward Earth? And, since the 14th Faction is gone, that we are likely not to see another horrific type event like this play out again in our near future, as we continue to move toward completion of the whole soul reintegration process?

9/11 was a classic "Hegelian Dialectic" - an act deliberately enacted to cause fear and panic leading to the introduction of legislation that nobody would have wanted until the "attack" took place.

The current state of fear replaces the "Cold War". Now that Russia and communism is no longer seen as a threat, the Cabal/Illuminati/Elite needed a new bad guy to make people afraid.

So "International Terrorism" was invented with the chief bogey-man being Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda.

AQ began life in 1948 when the British realised that the newly created state of Israel had expansion plans towards Lebanon. The British recruited a band of Wahhabi Moslems and set up AQ to harass Israel. When Israel went to war with Egypt, resulting in the Suez war, Israel backed down and AQ was put into mothballs.

When Russia invaded Afghanistan in 1987, the CIA was looking for a way of harassing the Russians but without making it obvious that the USA was involved and so the British gave control of AQ to the CIA and the CIA have remained in control ever since. All atrocities attributed to AQ have been carried out by the CIA including 9/11.

Bin Laden was the son of a Saudi billionaire who runs several huge transnational organisations.

The White House confirmed a few years ago that Bush senior works for a Bin Laden company since he retired from office. The White House also confirmed that half of all retired senators also work for the Bin Laden family.

Osama was flown from Afghanistan to Saudi for treatment for his kidneys by a CIA chartered jet where he had treatment in the American Hospital and he was flown back to Afghan by the same CIA jet (reported in the Paris newspaper Le Figaro). Osama died at his family home in Saudi in 2003
from kidney failure.

I watched the BBC evening news in October 2005 where there was a live statement made by MI6. The statement said (in part): "The SIS (MI6) can confirm that a rogue cell within the SIS planned recruited and carried out the London bombing".

There is no terrorist threat, just politicians creating fear to control the people.

My suspicion is that we are going to see more of these types of events, particularly in the US and Britain over the coming months as the cabal tries to get people to riot so that martial law can be imposed. This has nothing whatsoever to do with residual 14 energies.


9) Linear Time is indeed a funny thing and I wondered if the Akashic cannot look into the future, how do some people have premonitions that come true. Some even live the following day in their sleep and find it quite psychologically draining. Is this experience related to individual akashic stored in DNA?

When one makes a decision, one sets a future path. Up until then, there existed an infinite number of future paths that had a varying degree of possibility. When someone makes an accurate prediction of the future, they have tapped into the most likely possibility and the individual has made a decision that fulfils that possibility. This is why the Akashic cannot predict the future - the future has not been chosen by anybody or anything.

Very weird that we once had black holes but they no longer exist, which meant Hawking had to retract his statement that nothing comes out of a black hole. At one time they postulated ‘White Holes’ that were returning the broken up exploding suns as elements to create new suns. And these new suns were almost always put out in pairs.

Confirmation that black holes were made by the 14th Faction and did not exist in this Universe before then. Proof of the removal of the 14th Faction.

Also interesting that this is an instance in which we (at least those who studied physics) can actually remember the change which future generations will not have lived through. The ongoing time travel and event erasure theme of movies has driven into our psyches the expectation of memory erasures, not only from our minds but also our books. Just shows how intrusive technology has become.

This is a case of fiction following fact. School text books now leave out a huge amount of information that I was taught as a child. The whole fiasco over so-called Global Warming/Climate Change being the perfect example of substituting history with political rhetoric to indoctrinate children with lies.

10) Is there something special about dream sleep beyond the usual REM that allows our Higher Selves to interact with specific others and perhaps even create magic? Since dream time does seem to step outside of linear time, is there a strong creative potential there that we can tap into with our consciousness?

Dream sleep has a number of functions that are beneficial to the body and mind. For example: We use dream sleep to live out events in our lives so that we understand them better or to clear them as they were causing emotional problems.

Also, many people have a "night job". This can be doing healing work, helping people who have recently died to "pass over" peacefully or, if there is a war, many heal the sick and wounded on a soul level.

When we sleep, depending on our personal emotional needs, most of the soul leaves the body and travels to places where our work is needed or helpful. So a proportion of our dreams are of the work we did whilst, apparently, asleep.

I realize there are a lot of questions and we’d be grateful for any you choose to answer. I also realize that we should be trying to connect to the akashic and answer them ourselves and some of us have tried but it’s not as easy as you make it look. :>))

I do expect we will all be capable eventually. I mean we are looking at the world even now in a very different way to how we once did. And those clear blue skies are worth working for. How many people in the 90’s looked within for the truth? Now it is the first place we look.

With warmth and gratitude,
Herbert and friends

I hope I have answered your questions. They could have been longer answers but I didn't want RSI.

Best wishes t'ya'all
Chris

Herbert - just want to thank you for connecting with Chris with these great questions.
Thank you.

turiya

[turiya]

Posted by Delight (here)

Posted by turiya (here)
The “spiritual” liar-archy does not want us to grow on our own to a place of self-empowerment that will allow us to simply walk away from their entire control system. This is why the channeled messages subtly disempowers people, while pretending to actually offer them an empowering solution. As long as we are sitting and waiting for “the good guys” to come and save us, we will not be able to discern who truly has our best interests at heart, nor will we be able to actually fix our own problems for ourselves.

For the ENTIRE ARTICLE

I listened to Cameron Day's interview here.

I resonate to these ideas: Clearing the way to be fully incarnated and connected to Source here and now.

The stories differ. CT and CD (and Bartzis with whom I don't resonate) spend lots of time spinning the story. Do you think CT is fully committed to his story as the "truth"? If we see the stories as "myth" holding certain themes, that means all the stories can be seen as examples of the principle. Otherwise, one story has to be argued against another...right?

Thank you, Delight, for the Cameron Day mp3 interview.

Certainly, distortion will occur. The distortion point is the mind itself. Communication through the use of words & language passes through the intellect, the source of much obscurity. I think Chris is attempting to be quite careful about how he chooses his word selection. while expressing what he's found in his research of the Akashic.

Chris Thomas said from that Robert Stanley / Fourteenth Faction interview:

What I also did was to start checking everything I possibly could to make sure the kind of answers I was getting were as accurate as they could be. So, wherever possible, I would check through history books, whatever information I could find about a particular subject, to see what correlations there were, or if I was putting some kind of interpretation onto it. And, over the years, it led me to believe that what I receive from the Akashic is accurate & correct.

I am presently listening to the Cameron Day interview & find that he is also being quite careful with his view & how he is expressing it.

Whereas, Andrew Bartzis, Cobra, Rob Potter, Sheldan Nidle, GFOL, Tolec, Drake, Lady Dragon etc., appear to be more subsumed/consumed by the 'Ascended Master' Demiurge/Velon concocted influence - that is in my opinion. Because if you listen carefully to their discourse, the material contains quite a bit of the related information - creating & opening portals, ascension with the help of alien craft - using terminology relevant to the Ascended Master Teachings. Although, they may, no doubt, absolutely believe that they are on the right track, but unknowingly serving the liar-archy, as how Cameron Day puts it.

Thanks again for posting that mp3.

turiya

[FireHorse]

Posted by turiya (here)

Posted by Heartsong (here)
Thank you for the interesting reading. Can you tell us more about Chris Thomas beyond his unique access to the Akashic record. What is his educational background, vocation etc. This is the first that I've heard of him. Is he mostly a writer? lecturer?
Thank you

Hey Heartsong, you are playing my song...

From what I know, which is not much, Chris Thomas has been, for most of his life, what he calls a psychic healer.
From one of the interviewed videos that can be found on the internet, he says that it was from one of his clients, that came in with a problem that he had difficulty resolving. Chris said that he was able to scan his DNA and found that it was something in one of his client's past lives that was where the root of his problem laid. The more he went into to the root of the problem, he came to find that the cient was connected to an alien 'Velon' entity that provided the Annunaki Fantasy story to the Sumerian tablet maker. That is how I remember it, anyways. It was from this client's past life that prompted him to go into researching more about the history of the human race. I think its one of the following videos that has that information on it.

Bases 8 Part 1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Zf7scVDQ1g

Bases 8 Part 2

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=m-RSwTihJQ0

A 3rd interview is planned, Questions are Requested, so he can be challenged on these statements.

I did order that third interview. Its not available on youtube, yet.

Cheers to you, Heartsong
turiya

Did you ever get that third interview, Turiya?

~FireHorse

[onawah]

I have only read page 1 of this thread so far, and part of page 7, but it is all really resonating with me.
Thanks so much to Turiya for bringing awareness of Chris Thomas to Avalon.
It is connecting many more dots than I would have thought possible, and I will be eagerly reading the rest asap.
Please continue posting this information!

[turiya]

Recently I was asked by another member some things. I thought that it was worthy for others to read about. As follows:

Avalon member wrote:

Are you familiar with channelers Darryl Anka who channels Bashar?

Lately, I have been noticing that various characters amongst the 'players' that have gathered a certain number of 'followers', have been occasionally launching attacks upon each other. For instance Drake & company, Tanaath & Sunfire, have been recently dissing Tolec, Tolec has obviously been shaken by this, which he (Tolec) had since made a youtube rebuttal - (Tolec: Setting Things Straight) - of the allegations of him working for the darkside.

Then, I found a 'Walking in Energy' interview whereby Andrew Bartzis had jumped on a caller when he brought up the Metatron entity, and advised the caller to turn off his computer, yet Bartzis, himself, has held a Conference at Mt Shasta with Rob Potter, who appears to be extremely into the Ascended Master Teachings, GFOL, and channeled entities such as the Djwhal Khul entity that Chris Thomas has said was a Velon entity that had channeled material to Madame Blavatsky, and later Alice Bailey. Rob Potter, on his website, had also promoted for the activation of the Mt Shasta Portal - something that Chris had advised people not to do, as it allows the Velon to continue to have access to Earth & its people.

Also, if you are not aware of it, I have also noted that Rob Potter appears to be acting as the agent for Cobra, and if he is, then he's is not doing much of a good job with that, as he let the the January 08 2013 Coast to Coast interview with Cobra proceed without making certain the Cobra's voice was being correctly modulated to obscure his voice - it turned out it wasn't, yet Rob had remained on the line to answer questions posed by John B. Wells.

And yes, I too find Darryl Anka's channelings quite entertaining & resonate with much of that material. I also wonder, at times, whether there will come a time when the 'other shoe will drop', meaning of course - whether the mixing of truth & lies will come forth more deliberately, so it can be more easily distinguishable where the Bashar entity actually sits, perhaps at some time in the future.

Bottom line is, we don't need other outside influences to proceed with the total soul reintegration process. Outside influences are, but, only distractions that keep individuals from looking within. Doing one's own inner work is paramount - it is something that can only be done for oneself, and by oneself. Real Masters, i.e. Krishnamurti, Buddha & others, have also stressed the point - one needs to be a light unto oneself... everyone has the capacity & capability within themselves, of doing it for themselves, nobody can do the work for you.

Avalon member wrote:

I like the advice also to clear out all old emotions, concepts, etc.
It's what I've been focusing on the past few years especially.
I wonder if writing on newsprint is the only way to do that, though.
I am always a bit leery when someone says that here is only one way.

There is more than one way. This is one method that Chris advises, imo, because it is the easiest for people (who are not use to "letting-it-go"), who have been programmed (by society) for self-suppression & repression, to implement. In the Robert Stanley interview, Chris does advise for people to swear alot while doing this sort of thing - to express (vent) these pent-up emotions in the most emotionally charged way possible. I have previously shown an example of this 'other' method of doing this that includes involving the physical body. Look at post #47 Other methods are as simple as going to the gym & doing a strong workout, pump iron while expressing one's inner anger, going for a long bike ride pumping the pedals, and simple long-distance running is a good way of purging the system. And, understand that the 'system' is the bodymind mechanism - it is one system - bodymind. The body in the more dense part & the mind is the less dense part - but it is one mechanism.

I use to go to India & participate in an ashram there. Most all meditations were combined with a physical therapy, a cathartic therapy, that involved physically moving the body while expressing the pent-up emotions that one has buried within themselves - as everyone has been taught to repress themselves emotionally by the societies in which we live. Every society teaches this to its members to do this. It is so the society can appear to be a healthy one, but it comes at the cost of the individual members becoming unhealthy (emotionally & physically). The society looks good, but the individual members are plagued with numerous health problems

The meditation would begin with catharsis & end with everyone sitting in complete & utter silence. It was & is well understood that modern man needs to unburden him/herself in this way. Otherwise, to simply sit in meditation (as was done in the past) is not possible. One will be constantly interfered with by the body-mind that has too much built-up & pent-up energy that is contained within muscles, bones, nervous system & subconscious mind of that mechanism.

Thanks for connecting
turiya

Posted by turiya (here)

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
The important thing is to practice getting rid of the baggage we have, so we can become all we were meant to be. that in turn raises our vibration. I really think that is key information. I believe that all the microwave energy etc. IS ***king us up royally as a species. We have to take back our power of choice, and give back our baggage to the universe. Fear and negativity is what we have to let go of to move forward. That entire story makes sense to me. and I think like anything else, we all have to take from things like this what will benefit us, and leave the rest. We will not all ever agree on everything, but I find this information not only interesting, but imperative to our personal growth.

Chris Thomas suggests writing your unresolved issues out, using a pencil & old newspaper (emotions that are held within the body-mind mechanism) as a way of "clearing out" the clutter that is contained within. Pencil & old newspaper, because then, whatever was written out, cannot be read back, or re-ingested back within.

I remember a video that offered a way of doing this in a more physically expressive way. I think it is important, for many, to find ways of vocalizing, especially, anger that is pent-up inside the body & subconscious part of the mind. Take the following redneck rant as a method that could be useful. The idea is to clean-out the crap without affecting others, or injuring oneself while doing so. This can be viewed as an effective way of preparing oneself for receiving the entire soul to enter one's physical body. Destroy anything, that has little or no value, do it in a private setting. This kind of thing can be made into a meditation... making sure to allow for a period afterwards (15 minutes or so) to sit & connect with the silence that is left behind that will come in the wake of expressing one's fury.

The best part is when he goes to the laundry room...

The RedNeck Rant

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xjbEQcGq7Xo

turiya

[Kalamos]

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[soleil]

hi turiya, thank you for this thread. im resonating HUGE with CT and have let go of any attachment to read others like andrew bartzis etc. using common sense goes to show, if someone is banned from amazon for example, there has got to be truth in the info. i wonder if theres anything worthy of transcribing from other interviews on this thread. i admit i cannot listen to them at this time, weve reached our net bandwidth max.

my questions... i wonder what ct thinks of drunvalo m?
and about allegations that the moon is a satellite? (barbara m,something)

i love hearing that sidhe is nature spirit and not some evil fae like represented in most fairy literature. more importantly , to me, im excited they are in akashic as real. cuz so much of "magic" is left looking fake.

what would ct say about simon parkes being a mantis( et all his info) ..does that get ruled /lumped in to velon manipulation?

i wonder if truths like this has legitimate truths that will be announced by natural news in jan2014? regarding healing, and how we can take back comtrol(in a good way). i am speculating here, bc i resonate with ct and empowering truths coming from natural news, info wars and energetic synthesis(lisa renee). they all seem to jive with truths and i feel surprisingly more dicerning now after reading your thread. please continue. hebert, also a huge thanks to you bud. i wonder if any of my questions can be asked?

(edit) i wish i could find his books in pdf, does anyone have any? :D

[onawah]

I'm on page 5 of this thread now, and would love to read CT's books, but I have checked and they are pretty pricey for my budget and aren't widely available, so what I have seen and read here is all I will have to go on for now, at least. And I have questions, though perhaps some of those are answered on pages 6 and 7, but here goes, anyway.... Does he answer questions on any of the websites where his info is being featured, or might he join us here on Avalon? I certainly would like to run some questions by him!


I noticed that you, Turiya, quoted Sir Laurence Gardner in one of your posts. I've read a lot of his work. His research indicated that there have generally been two factions in the ruling classes over the ages, one idealistic and humane, the other controlling, greedy and cruel. Because they were often born to the same bloodlines and the bloodlines became mixed, with much rubbing of elbows going on in the upper echelons of society, it's not always been easy to tell which is which, or to understand when how and why, realistically, compromises sometimes had to be made since the Service to Self souls were ruthless, persistent and could not be defeated outright.

Has CT gone into any detail about the US Founding Fathers, who he claims were taken over by the Illuminati? Does he mean that Velon souls were walk-ins into the bodies of Washington, Jefferson, etc. , “possessing” them, or just that they were being heavily influenced, and if so, how? Energy implants? Why would the FF have gone to the trouble of creating the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, and fought so hard to liberate the colonies from Britian if they were Illuminati? The ideals they planted in the minds of humanity of personal sovereignty and freedoms are antithetical to the Illuminati goals, so this premise that they were taken over by the Velon doesn't make sense to me. Granted, the FF were Freemasons, but there have always been Freemasons who were genuinely idealistic, spiritually oriented souls who sought not so much to control as to guide humanity in a positive way.

I don't understand why the Velon want Earth. With their technology, which allows them to travel from a different galaxy, it should be easy for them to find gold elsewhere, if gold is what they really want, and without having to deal with all the complications of an inhabited planet. There is evidence that has been explored on other Avalon threads which indicates that gold is actually a very common metal in the Universe. Or is it just because they want human slaves, or they like our DNA? Is it because other ET races have mixed their bloodlines with ours, making us a unique species, and they want to mix their bloodlines more with ours? Since they are so obviously willing to destroy so many of the lifeforms on Earth, it doesn't seem to be because they like the planet, or are fond of Gaia as an entity in her own right. Could we possibly present some kind of intergalactic threat to them, or perhaps they are simply envious, or want to thwart the goals of the other ET races who have been interested in Earth...? Do they not get it that Gaia doesn't want them here and is powerful enough to expel them?

One of the great mysteries of the Sumerian culture was how it developed and became so sophisticated so rapidly. If that wasn't due to the Annunaki, does CT think it was due to the influence of other ET races? The latter is the case, according to the channeler Tyberonn (whose messages, incidentally, don't say anything about the Annunaki or humans having to leave the planet in order to “ascend”, but that the planet is evolving to a higher vibration and humans who remain here will also evolve to that higher frequency. His messages claim that Pleiadians, Arcturans, Sirians, Andromedans have been here on and off for a long time, using their advanced technologies in Atlantis and other ancient civilizations, and that some of their underground facilities are still here and operational. His messages state that the crystals that were left here after the fall of Atlantis are being reactivated to help form a new crystalline grid which will be instrumental in providing the planet with clean, sustainable energy-- not to open portals to allow E.T.s access to the planet.

I see that CT doesn't say that all channeled messages are from the Velon, but it's not that black and white when it comes to deciphering which ones are and which ones aren't. For example, Tyberonn channels an entity which he calls Lord Metatron, but his messages are unlike the GFL and Ashtar messages in most respects, even though they post his messages on their sites. For one thing, because he is a geologist, there are a lot of detailed scientific and historical explanations about geology, sacred geometry, ancient cultures etc. And he is well acquainted with various indigenous elders, knowledgeable about the Crystal Skulls and other subjects, all of which get incorporated into his messages.

Another channeler I read is Suzy Ward of Messages from Matthew
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm
... though she is not strictly a channeler, more of a medium, since her messages come mostly through her deceased son. She also says that many souls who are not ready to journey with Earth to a higher frequency are leaving this planet, and those who stay will be rapidly passing through 4D into 5D frequencies, but will be doing so here on the planet.

Drunvalo Melchizedek, in the most recent interview I have seen with him:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...alo#post753915
...seems to be questioning a lot of what he previously thought to be true about how we will survive all the changes, including the issues of the declining bee population, increasing amounts of methane being released into the atmosphere, the decrease in the magnetic fields, the unwillingness of TPTW to allow advanced technology such as free energy devices, etc. He says now he doesn't know how anyone is going to make it, though he has been generally ever hopeful, for the most part. Not long ago, he was predicting, along with some of the indigenous elders, 3 days of darkness in which our Sun would transform hugely, taking us into a much less dense level of existence, where presumably we wouldn't require food or the other props that currently make existence on this planet viable for organic human life. It wasn't clear from that last interview if he thinks that massive leap is still in the works or not, but I believe the window for that was sometime within the next decade.

Though I also have a lot of questions about the information coming from these sources, they do all seem to have pieces of the puzzle, and to at least be sincerely searching on the track of what's gone before and what's really happening now. Though of course, they are human and may also be subject to incursions by entities seeking to control them. But all of them, including George Kavassilas, whose work has been featured a lot on Avalon, are not advising that we leave the Earth to continue our evolution, but on the contrary, to remain here and work with Gaia to attain our evolutionary goals.
I wonder if CT has an opinion about James Gilliland, and who the ships belong to that appear so frequently over ECETI Ranch...

There is certainly still a lot of confusion about the terms “dimensions” and “densities”, and how those terms relate to “frequencies” and the more generic “vibrations”. But the sources I've mentioned, along with Bashar and others, feel that Earth is going to be a great place to be once we get past the current roadblocks. Though it's still very unclear how that is going to be possible; even if we are doing all our homework, clearing our emotional bodies, etc. we are still vulnerable and very dependent on these frail organic bodies that require so much care and maintenance. It seems to me we are going to need a lot more help from E.T.s who are much better equipped to deal with the negative ETs and the Illuminati than the rest of us are, particularly since our time to resolve all the current problems seems to be growing so short.

update:I was really tired when I wrote this, so I am correcting this now, with apologies, especially to Flash, who caught me out. Simon Parkes concurs with CT to some extent on the reason CERN was actually developed, which is to create a wormhole. He says the first one didn't work so they are building another which they hope will allow them to escape Earth. But there is a narrow window of time in which they can do this, and it seems likely the project will not be completed in time. There's a great thread about Simon here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t=simon+parkes

[turiya]

Lisa Harrison interview with Chris Thomas
Part1
Source Video Interview: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HhE1aBSBzrc
Published: Oct. 15, 2012

A HUGE THANK YOU goes to Herbert for transcribing this Lisa Harrison interview with Chris Thomas – lots of good & interesting info. Will attempt to lay it out is a couple-three parts.

October 15, 2012 Interview Pt1

Lisa: Chris has been somewhat psychic since the age of 7 and has the ability to read the Akashic Records and I want to welcome Chris Thomas.

Chris: Lisa it’s nice to be here.

Lisa: Lovely, now in one of your interviews I did hear you talk about having the ability quite young to read auras. You seemed to develop psychic ability quite young but it wasn’t really supported, and you suppressed it somewhat.

Chris: No. My mother had comparatively strong Christian views and so anything that had to do with psychic abilities was heavily frowned upon, to put it mildly.

Lisa: So can you really suppress it, can you do that kind of thing, can you switch it off, or did you just stop talking about it?

Chris: Yeah, it’s just like everything else, it was just a question of not working with it and trying to think of something else, you know.

Lisa: So you could stop yourself from seeing people’s auras?

Chris: Not entirely, but I stopped talking about it, and didn’t really develop what I could do.

Lisa: And when did that change for you?

Chris: When I was early 20’s. I met someone who was developing themselves into their own version of ‘medium-ship’, and so, really, I started to pick it up from there and investigate things much more deeply. I found that I had, like a lot of people obviously, that I had a very natural healing ability. Which I then wanted to develop as much as I possibly could.

Lisa: And you mean just energetic hands-on kind of healing?

Chris: Yup. And, also like a lot of healers, I found that I had an empathic response with the people I was working with. In other words, I could feel what their problems were within my own body. But I’ve managed to find a way of NOT hanging onto those feelings, if you like, so that by recognizing that they weren’t mine – they were somebody else’s – I could get rid of them. A lot of healers have problems actually ending up with an accumulation of their clients’ problems.

Lisa: Yeah, a very uncomfortable state to be in I’m sure.

Chris: Ah, yes very. And then I made a conscious decision one day to get into what people call ‘psychic surgery’. And so, that’s the way I developed along those lines. Eventually, what I ended up being able to do was to literally read inside people’s bodies, a bit like an MRI scanner. I could actually see in 3-dimensions and in real time what was actually going on.

Lisa: Now what we’ve seen here in Australia of psychic surgery is footage from predominantly Indonesia, usually with the agenda to paint it as a fraud. It is people literally putting their hands in somebody else’s body. Were you getting to that point?

Chris: Yes, and I decided not to. Again it felt to me as though I had a clear choice. I could go either way. I could go into what they called the intrusive psychic surgery, or non-intrusive psychic surgery, and I thought of putting my hands inside someone’s body would scare the life out of me, never mind the one I’m working on. So I thought I’m not going to go down that route. LOL!

Lisa: LOL! I don’t actually blame you at all… lol.

Chris: LOL! It is, you know, quite fascinating in the Philippines they do have a tradition. Unfortunately, you do also have a lot of charlatans working in those kinds of way by secreting little blood clots, around the place & all that sort of thing. So I felt that if I can work without even touching the people, then it’s proof to me that I’m doing what I think I’m doing, and it’s proof to the person I’m working with that we’re dong something that is genuine but also different.

Lisa: When it comes to the Akashic, though, I’m interested in a couple of sort of practical aspects of the Akashic Record. Where does the Akashic reside? If we talk densities, or dimensions, or realms - where would you say the Akashic lives?

Chris: Right... There are actually multiple layers to it. So what you actually have is an Akashic of people, so on a human level. All the word Akashic means is ‘Record’ so it’s pure and simply a record of events that occurred. So there’s an Akashic that works with the Earth and with human activities. Then there’s Akashic that works at solar system level. Then there’s another layer that works at the Galactic level, and then obviously there’s then the overall picture which is part of the Universal Akashic.

So essentially, it’s recorded within a scientific way I suppose you could say it’s recorded within Space/Time. It’s actually recorded within energetic swirls within the actual structure of the Universe itself.

Lisa: So how does this relate to what we call the collective consciousness?

Chris: Yes, you could see the collective consciousness as being one layer of the Akashic.

Lisa: So lets say, for an example, the collective consciousness is an in-the-moment repository of the potentials, as well as the thoughts and the various potentials as to the way events could go, and yet once it’s done, once it’s happened, it becomes part of the Akashic?

Chris: Essentially yes. We live in a Universe that is constructed of the energies of ‘freedom of choice’. So literally every soul that exists within this Universe has absolute ‘freedom of choice’ to choose their actions. What you cannot do is to act in such a way that removes somebody else’s choice to act freely. So what you have on a human level: We all have our ‘free choice’ so we exercise that free choice in taking the decisions we do to carry on with our lives. But once our decision is made then a fixed point occurs, if you like, and it’s that action that is recorded rather than , as you say, the potentials and the possibilities.

Lisa: So if you wanted to read potentials and possibilities, you’d look at the layer that is the collective consciousness, and if you wanted to look at the history, you’d look at the level you call the Akashic.

Chris: uhmmm… yes. (Laugh) It’s an immensely complicated question. I mean to answer properly.

Lisa: O.K. Good answer. (Laughs)

Chris: But yes, that’s a reasonable summation of it. There are always potential situations which can and cannot occur, and then it depends on what choices made, either individually or collectively, as to which direction that potential is taken.

Lisa: When you say that you can 'read' the Akashic... With regard to language... what language is the Akashic written in? Does it come to you in words? What does it look like? Is it in images?

Chris: It can be a combination of images, and it’s more like thoughts than words. So whatever language your brain works in, or thinks in, then it would be in that form. I don’t know how other people work but for me, I have a very strong connection with my own Higher Self. And so, basically we work together if you like to look for whatever answers I happen to be looking for at the particular time. Therefore, the answers come through the Higher Self and then into any room they can find in this crazy brain of mine. And then my brain translates it into the images, or words, or thoughts, to find the answer.

Lisa: So how much of it is left up to your personal interpretation? How much do you bring to it?

Chris: Hopefully nothing. This is what I try to do. The essential test to me is to – if I’m looking for the answer to a question – is to ask that question from about 25 different directions. From as many directions as I can possibly think of. So that what I’m actually homing in on is the reality of the situation – of what actually did occur. Because it is very easy to put an interpretation on it from your own lifetime’s experience. And so I try very hard to avoid that by asking as many questions as I can think of to try and work out really what the event was.

Lisa: When did you realize that what you were doing was reading the Akashic?

Chris: Again, it would have been sort of mid 20’s.

Lisa: And how?

Chris: (laugh) Actually I’ve never thought about that one. My very first book - The very first manuscript I ever wrote – I really wanted to look at what Human history was all about – Why we’re here, what we’re doing, and why we’re doing it. And so I set about on that really – of unraveling what is the reality of human history rather than the rubbish that is in the history books. And so I just began on that process. It seemed a perfectly natural way for doing it at the time.

So obviously, it was me working with my Higher Self, and it was presumably whatever my Higher Self had planned as the next thing I was supposed to do in my life was to get this manuscript. So, that's how I got started. And I’d come across something that was contradictory to what the history books say… So I’d think about that and then ask various questions around the Akashic, and then I’d find a reference to it somewhere. Whether it was two people I didn’t know speaking, like two strangers speaking on a bus, or whatever. I’d find that they were having a conversation about the point that I was trying think about. Or, I’d pick up a book somewhere and I’d find a reference to what I was looking at, and find that there was a confirmation of what the Akashic said, rather than what the history books said. And so, really, it became a developmental process from that, and I found that every time I did come up with an answer to something, which was contradictory, somehow or other it was confirmed.

So then gradually over a few years, I learned to recognize what was the Akashic and what were my own thoughts, and that I could trust what was coming from the Akashic.

Lisa: Now one of the words you use, and that I haven’t heard before, is the word 'Velon'. Who are they? Or, what are they?

Chris: Within the Universe there are 13 races of beings who are, if you like, human sized. Their souls have an energy pattern that would roughly correspond to what humans are. So 6 of these races are entirely non-physical. In other words, they exist purely as a soul energy. They have no physical form or physical density. But the outline of the energy that they’re constructed from is basically humanoid. And, 99% of the souls that exist on Earth who originate from these 6 races. So we’re – essentially, all Humans are aliens in some respects if you like.

But, then we have in between these non-physical races and the full physical Human we have, what the Akashic describes as semi-physical races, and there are 7 of them. So these are the guys, who UFOs, the aliens, and the Greys, and all the rest. So, they’re all part of the semi-physical races.

Now one of the semi-physical races calls itself Velon. Now they originate from a Galaxy that in the night sky is in the direction of the constellation of Sagittarius. It’s about 32 Galaxies beyond it. But in the same way that humans, you know, you’re human, I‘m Human, you wouldn’t call yourself human. You’d call yourself Australian, I’d call myself Welsh, or Jewish, or Greek, or Christian, or Moslem, or whatever it is - we wouldn’t say Human. And so the Velon themselves are made up of 6 different races in the same way as Australian is one Race, Welsh is another race.

So the Velon divide themselves up in that same way, and there are 6 of them. They usually call themselves by whatever their race name happens to be rather than call themselves Velon. The 6 races are the Anunnaki, the Hathor, Jjundaa, Johnaan, Oa and Mila. I’m sure a lot of people have heard of the Anunnaki, a few less people probably recall the Hathor. Some will have heard of the Oa and Mila, particularly in Hawaii I understand where the Oa and Mila have concentrated on in their communications to Earth. And so that’s who they really are.

And the Velon are a strange race in many respects in that they’ve kept themselves very much to themselves. They didn’t travel out of their home galaxy as it were, unlike say the Pleiadians, or the Greys, who get pretty much everywhere when it comes down to it. So the Velon stayed within their home Galaxy, but somehow or other had a revelatory moment and decided they would come to Earth and with basically the intent of basically removing people off the planet so that they could take over the planet for themselves.

Now, I know that sound like the script from a ‘B’ sci-fi movie but this is what they’ve been doing ever since for the last 300, or so, years.

Lisa: So, to recap - there are 13 races that are essentially human sized and the soul is human sized.

Chris: Yeah, human shaped anyway.

Lisa: 6 of them have no form, they’re just energetic and 99% of humans here on Earth are from these races. There are then 7 that are semi-physical , one of which is called the Velon, but the Velon have within it 6 races.

Chris: Yes.

Lisa: So when you say they had a revelatory moment to come here, we were already here then?

Chris: Yes this only occurred 350 years ago. No, let me rephrase that a little bit - 1000 years ago it occurred in human time frames - 1000 years ago they had this revelatory moment. It then took them 650 years just to get here.

Lisa: So what about the concept that we have been interfered with for a lot longer than that?

Chris: What do you mean - the Anunnaki story from Sitchin’s material?

Lisa: Things like that... Yeah... the interference on this planet goes back 1000’s of years.

Chris: Rubbish.

Lisa: Oh O.K. (Laughs)

"Sitchin’s Translations of the Anunnaki Material - A Fabricated Story"

Chris: No, No, I understand a lot of people believe in this very strongly because of things like Sitchin’s translations of the Anunnaki material. Now, I have read pretty much all of Sitchin’s books on his translations, and I think the most interesting thing about it is - a proof, if you like, that this is actually a fabricated story. It’s made up by the Anunnaki.

If you think of the Old Testament which Sitchin says it is the basis of the Anunnaki story. If you think about the way the Old Testament is written, what you have is: it’s just a record, it’s a story book of all the peoples that are within the story - how they travelled, how they moved, and how they ended up in Canaan. And that’s all it is. It just says: this is what we did and this is how we did it - kind of idea.

If you research in translations what virtually every section of what the stories says, this story is being dictated to a scribe. In other words, somebody turned up with a full story already put together, and they’re dictating that story to someone whose taking it down into clay tablets. That doesn’t happen. Not if it is genuine history, then it doesn’t happen that way. It’s just written as people who are undergoing and living through it – it says well we’re going here – You know we’re travelling from Egypt to Canaan, and this is the experiences we have had along the way.

Lisa: Well if the Velon only turned up 350 years ago, was there another presence here prior to them that came here to mess around?

Chris: No, not really. I’ll tell you... I’ll give you a brief history of the Universe. Even quicker than Stephen Hawking can do it:

The Universe first came into being roughly 14 Billion years ago, and that’s about the only date the scientists seem to have got right, as far as the Akashic is concerned. The purpose of the Universe is: There is a Creationary Source out there - shall we say, however you want to describe it – who had a thought: "What would happen if?" That’s about the only way I can describe how these things work. So 'what would happen if'... there were souls who had free choice and freedom of movement throughout space with all the energy patterns necessary to support and sustain that life?

And that’s the reason for the Universe. Basically, what would happen if every soul that was in this Universe had ‘freedom of choice’?

The Universe is a Conscious Being - Its Another Soul -
It Has Choices - It Can Do Whatever it Chooses to Do

So the first things to be created are... the Universe envelope itself is a conscious being, it’s a soul itself, made up of 13 separate beings, 13 separate souls. But then within that you have what we look at as a structure of a galaxy is actually a consciousness itself, as well - its another soul.

So everything that is within the Universe is alive. It has consciousness and has choices that it can do whatever it is that it chooses to do. But part of the purpose of the Universe was then to work with souls who are of this Human scale. So that we had choices to move freely around the Galaxies and have experiences and explore whatever we chose to explore.

Lisa: So that we were compatible no matter where we went?

Chris: Yes. And that’s how it was originally, and then these 6 non-physical races said: “We’re missing something.” You know: “we can interact with every other soul in the Universe, but we can’t touch something, we can’t feel something physically”. And so a decision was then made collectively within the Universe to think of: “what would human life be like?” So the semi-physical races were brought into being (as a sort of half-way stage, as it were) and then humans, or the Earth started to form and our solar system started to form.

So basically, the 6 non physical races were first created 100 Million years ago. So you, as a soul, are 100 Million years old. Then the semi physical races came into being, were created specifically to be semi physical about 30 Million years ago. But in between, about 40 Million years ago, the solar system started to form, came into being, started to look at what kind of life it wanted to have & how it could express life. So, I know the scientific view is that the Earth is 4 Billion years old. But that’s based on a meteorite that has come from somewhere, no one knows where it came from, that was found on the Earth a few years ago. They put it through some testing equipment and came up with a figure of 4 Billion years.

Which I think is completely a lot of rubbish and actually scientists themselves say it’s a complete load of rubbish, because when scientists first started working out how old life was on Earth , they came up with a figure of 25 Million years and that’s what the Akashic says. That 25 Million years ago life started to develop on Earth.

Lisa: So does that mean that Earth Humans are the pinnacle of evolution in terms of vessels that hold soul mass?

Chris: No. We’re just another layer of experimentation with choice. See everything that’s souls that exist on this planet’s Universe is of human scale is equal. We’re all the same. No one’s different, whether we’re non-physical, semi-physical or human. We’re all essentially equal. So there’s no such thing as pinnacles of development. It’s just another level of exploration of what is possible.

Lisa: I guess what I meant in terms of pinnacle is the most physical vessel.

Chris: Alright in those terms: Yes. The human is the densest form of life in the Universe, whichever way you want to look at that. Don’t forget that everything is energy so we see our bodies with the physical but they’re not, they’re just highly compacted energy. So in those terms humans are the densest form of life in the Universe. We’re the most highly compacted form of energy forms that exist.

Nothing like a human exists anywhere else in the Universe. Only within our solar system can human life exist in the form that it’s in.

Lisa: So does that mean that all the ETs are essentially inter-dimensional in terms of as opposed to extraterrestrial?

Chris: Um... they’re both, because ETs cannot exist in their normal state within our solar system. They have to alter their energy patterns and their physical density for us to see them. This is why you get so many reports of UFOs suddenly disappearing from sight or you couldn‘t see an ET inner eye kind of thing. It’s because their energy patterns are entirely different to ours. They don’t NATURALLY exist at the kind of energy compaction levels that we exist at. So to come into our solar system they have to actually alter their energy patterns quite radically to make themselves visible.

Lisa: And what are your thoughts on let’s just pick a couple of well known ETs that are supposedly here because the Greys and say the Reptiles. What are your thoughts on why they’re here and what their agenda is?

Chris: The Greys are an interesting bunch. So that’s your classic ET you know just over a metre tall, grey skin and big black eyes. They don’t actually have big black eyes, Their eyes are actually bright yellow with vertical irises. It’s just the energy patterns within our solar system means they literally have to shield their eyes or otherwise they would get damaged. So they basically wear eye shades.

They have physiological problems. They see their bodies as being unstable and in the process of deteriorating… and so, they’ve come to Earth to learn about human physiology to see whether they can learn about a more physical form that they can adopt to themselves to make their body stronger. That is essentially why the Greys are here.

Lisa: That sounds like nature made a mistake some how in making them.

Chris: No, not really because everything is an experiment. Nobody knows what these things are. This is why we’re here to find out what happens. The reason why the semi physical races are there is to find out what happens. And so, as far as the Greys are concerned, that’s how they see their body in that they have slight problems with it.

It’s not a major problem, ultimately to sort the Greys out, but they’re here as much out of curiosity as anything else to see what they can learn from humans.

Lisa: Do they pose any real threat to humans?

Chris: No. Nobody does other than the Velon. All the other races are essentially benevolent to everybody else. They get on very well. It’s only the Velon. For some strange reason the Velon seem quite bizarre in their approach to things.

So the other races you’ve got the Pleiadians, again another semi physical race. They act like the universal diplomatic core, getting involved in pretty much everything that goes on within the Universe. They are regular visitors back and fourth to earth and they’re very human in appearance.

The next one is the Blues. Have you yourself come across the Blues?

Lisa: Would that be the ones depicted in Indian culture sort of like the blue Deities?

Chris: Um, no not quite. In terms of living entities, the Blues are like cartoon characters, or pantomime. They are very short and covered in thick blue hair. But they are geneticists. That’s where their interests lie is within genetics. How our genetics are built and how they go together.

Lisa: Oh, is this what Whitely Strieber described?

Chris: Um… could very well be. I can’t remember what he was writing about, um… but there is these small blue characters but they work very closely with the Greys because they’re trying to find the genetic answer. So they visit the Earth quite a bit as well, and yes several people have written where they had close encounters with the alien races. They have described the Blues and the Greys.

So you’ve got those and then you’ve got those who come from Sirius of course, and they’re very similar in appearance to the Greys but a bit taller. They’re very friendly towards us and have had an awful lot of contact with people on Earth. There’s a tribe of people in North Africa called the Dugong tribe who have a very detailed history of Sirius – known well before any Western scientists got there. So yes, they’ve had close contact with this Sirian race. And again, they’re very friendly.

The people who’ve had the most to do with Earth, we don’t actually have a name for because they’re name for themselves doesn’t translate into any kind of Earth language. But they originate from a star system known as NGC584 . So that is their catalogue number basically. Which is located in the night sky somewhere in the arc of the Pleiadian stars, but many galaxies beyond the Pleiades. They are the ones who worked with the Earth more than any other race, because they are master geneticists.

So if the Earth wants a new plant form, or a new animal form designed to work on Earth, then she would call in these beings from the NGC584 star system and they work closely with the Earth to develop a new form of life. They really are superb at what they do, without any agenda, to help whatever planet requires their help.

NGC584 star system

Observer: Warrington Collegiate
Telescope: Faulkes Telescope

Lisa: And what about humanity herself. Were they involved in the creation of these different races on Earth?

Chris: No. It is just bio-diversity. You know people were black skinned live in hot climates because a black skin is most appropriate for a hot climate. Like people with paler skins live in cooler climates because that’s more appropriate to the kind of climate.

Lisa: But if 99% of humans are from the non physical races are we representing at least 6 of those races?

Chris: Well yes, each of those races do fall into distinct races. So they are in separate from each other. So yes, they will be represented on the earth as being slightly different, but I mean we wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Even a very good psychic wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. But there is a certain amount of variation in human form – and obviously look at the Japanese people, they tend to be fairly short with that sort of yellowish colour skin, and then you look at the Nordic races which are very tall with pale skin. So, there are variations that could reflect people coming from one of the 6 non physical races, but really it’s much more to do with human genetic patterns and energy patterns within particular regions that create the variation in human form.

Lisa: So you said the only ones that really pose a threat are the Velon. But what kind of threat?

Chris: Well essentially they want humans off the planet. When they first came here about 350 years ago, as I said, they took a look at the place and each of the 6 Velon races took on a different strategy. So the Anunnaki concocted a story which is Sitchin’s translations. It’s based on certain facts that they’ve also embroidered considerably to make it look as though they are man’s creators.

So what the Anunnaki hoped was that the humans at this time would get hold of Sitchin’s translations, and welcome them as our gods and welcome them in when they turned up, at the present time, that’s what it’s all about. Now the Anunnaki story is a combination of stories so if you go way back into history what you find is: There is an archaeological dig going on at the moment in a place called Gobekli Tepe. Which is on the borders of Northern Iraq, southern Turkey and Turkmenistan I think it is.

Gobekli Tepe

All that is there is an old temple complex, what archaeologists are describing as the oldest complex ever found on earth which they date to being 14,000 years ago, but the Akashic dates it as more 7,000 years ago. [Please NOTE: Chris, in a private email to Herbert, corrects his misstatement by clarifying this point, as he, in fact, meant to say that the Akashic dates this complex at being 18,000 years ago, putting it in par with the dating of the Pyramids of Egypt, South America, Tibet. See post # 154.] Just down the road form Gobekli Tepe is the ancient biblical city of Ur of the Chaldeas, which is where Abraham originated. The Old Testament is all about Abraham and his descendants, and also Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. These all originated from Abraham.

This area around Gobekli Tepe they called 'Eden'. And, they were attacked by a race who came from the north, who they called 'gods'. So this is the origin where it says in the Old Testament “Tall Pale Gods” coming from the North and mating with the locals. So what you have is... em . . . if you look at the people of Turkey and Iraq at the moment they are pretty much of the same appearance. They are of medium height, dark-haired and olive skinned. So you can imagine people at that time living in Eden suddenly finding themselves confronted with people who are fair-skinned, fair-haired and something like 8 or 9 foot tall.

Because what these tall northerners were, the people that invaded this area around Ur de Chaldeas were hangovers from a different human race which scientists called gigantopithicus. And they no longer exist on the planet. So they have no DNA connection with current humans, with Homo Sapiens. And so what they did was to mate with people and create this new sort of semi race that totally died out. The local people who lived in Eden actually attacked these northerners and they destroyed them all, they killed them all, massacred them totally.

This is the reason why they left Eden was to get away from the fact that they had killed their gods. Travelled down into Egypt, and then became the Jewish race, which then formed the Old Testament and these stories have been written as experiences of what they had experienced as a race. So, that part of the Anunnaki story of these ‘Tall Pale Northern gods’ came down & mate with the inhabitants and they create this new genetic strain. Then on top of that, within Sitchin’s translations, you have planets that are talked about which are actually the planets of the Velon home solar system, and events that occurred within the Velon solar system. So, the planet called Marduk hit one of the moons of another planet and dislodged a lot of that planet. You know that sort of thing.

And you also have a planet called Nibiru within the Anunnaki/Velon solar system. Now, the Velon solar system has... um... 9 planets... (can't remember off hand, its been a while since I looked at this stuff....), but 9 planets, and its got 2 suns. Now, 3 planets...er... or... whichever way it is? ...can't remember off hand... 3 planets orbit around one sun, and 4 planets orbit around the other sun, and then one planet orbits both suns. So it has a huge orbit and that’s Nibiru. And the Anunnaki originate on that travelling planet. And so, what they’ve done is to create a story that combines very early human history & their own history to try and make us believe that we are their creation – that the Anunnaki created us - but it’s a false story.

Now, I’m not saying Sitchin made it up for whatever reason, because in fairness, having read all of Sitchin’s books, he has done his extreme best to translate these clay tablets that are written in Sumerian cuneiform writing that have been buried in the sands for 5000 years. So I’m not saying he’s wrong, I’m saying the story itself is false.

Lisa: But if they’ve only been her 350 years, we weren’t doing a real good job it either before then so. . . Laugh

Chris: Well if you want to look at real human history, it’s very different again to how the historians have reported it. As far as I’m concerned, you know, the early form of human life that appeared on the planet, I don’t know what figure they put to it these days – about 40 Million years ago or something like that, and we’ve slowly developed since. And that’s not correct.

What we have is several different forms of very early humans living on the planet. The Earth herself is a consciousness. She is a soul that creates life, so the animals and plant life on the planet are actually a creation of her’s. The Earth, herself, actually chose and designed plant and animal life with the help of the semi physical race NGC 584. As part of that, obviously she also developed human forms, because that was the purpose of our solar system was to explore the potential of the human body form.

Now every single planet within our solar system supported life at that time. So, when life began 40 million years ago within our solar system, every single planet had life on it. And there were 13 planets originally - not the 9 we currently have. And 4 of the planets disintegrated for want of a better way of describing them, because if you think of a planet as being a soul – a consciousness within it’s own right – then it has the choice that every other soul in the universe has. And they decided they did not want to be a part of this Human Experiment. And so they decided to leave the Solar System.

Unfortunately, that created difficulties in that two of the planets exploded and what they did was to rip through the solar system and destroy all life on all the planets other than Earth. Earth, herself, came very close to giving up and we nearly lost all life on the planet at that time. This was 3.8 Million years ago. So that’s when the dinosaurs and all life was destroyed 3.8 Million years ago.

But the Earth decided to start again. At that time, what she did was to develop Cro-Magnon man. What you find is Cro-Magnon man is located on every single continent at the same time. So, where paleoanthropologists start digging around looking for old bones, what they find is that our ancestors, Cro-Magnon man, which later developed into Homo Sapiens originates spontaneously 3.6 Million years ago on every single continent. But they don’t want us to know that. There is an awful lot of what is buried beneath the soil that remains hidden quite deliberately by scientists.

On one level they don’t want to do anything that contradicts stories in the Bible and that is written into the charter of ALL ARCHAEOLOGICAL ASSOCIATIONS around the world. Also of course what is underneath all this cover-up is the Anunnaki story which has been going around for a very long time and higher levels of Freemasons for example and Illuminati firmly believe in that story. And that is what they’re trying to present as fact to most people.

But when you start looking properly at archaeological research and anthropological research, you will find that every single continent on Earth had Cro-Magnon arrive spontaneously 3.6 Million years ago.

Spreading Homo Sapiens (Cro-Magnon)

"You will find that every single continent on Earth had Cro-Magnon arrive spontaneously..."

Human history as far as it is presented in its official sense, is all a pack of lies. It really bears no resemblance to the reality of what has gone on on Earth.

Lisa: But even if we just looked at the last 1000 years we really aren’t doing a very good job of it, in terms of wars and . . .

Chris: Oh sure we’re coming to that. So what we have is 3.6 Million years ago we start off with Cro-Magnon man, and that developed very, very slowly. I mean let’s face it you’ve got a nice life – you’re wandering around the planet free of officials, you have all the possible plants to provide for you. No wars, no violence, no battles , no animosity between peoples – WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO CHANGE?

Lisa: There’s no worrying about what you want to do when you grow up and what you’re going to do to pay the bills. Laughs.

Chris: Laughs. So that’s what they did. They didn’t need to develop. I’m not criticizing Cro-Magnon man, I’ve nothing against them, but essentially they were more like animals than they were humans, because they didn’t have a whole soul that was in the body. What they essentially had was a group soul. So essentially, they existed on the level of a mass consciousness. They existed within an earth consciousness but they were not individuals, themselves. What was needed, or what was part of the purpose of this Universe, was to find out whether we could have individual Human Beings, and Cro-Magnon was very ,very slow in developing into a body form that could accommodate the whole soul.

So what we had was our friends from the NGC584 star system were asked by Earth to come in and investigate what the problem was. Why was Cro-Magnon so slow in developing into a full human being. And they took up residence on Lemuria. This is where Lemuria comes from in our mass conscious memories, that is, it was somewhere where humanity was investigated was to find out why we were so slow in developing. Ultimately the question was not fully solved even by the NGC584, so collectively, but up to those souls who wanted to be a part of what was going on.

Earth decided to start another experiment and we know that experiment as Atlantis. Atlantis did exist. It was a major continent that spanned the coast of Ireland and the Caribbean basin and at the time the continent of South America was much further out into the Pacific than it is now. So what we did on Atlantis was to genetically manipulate the basic body form of Cro-Magnon.

Lisa: When you say ’we’ what do you mean ?

Chris: All those souls of the non-physical races who wanted to come to Earth to experiment with what it is like to be physical and human.

Lisa: So we were doing that from a non-physical perspective though.

Chris: No, because what we wanted was a physical body. So we worked with Cro-Magnon’s body form – accelerated its development, and we ended up with a human body form that fulfilled all requirements that the Earth had set for herself and that the 6 non-physical races had set for themselves. Which is a physical human being who is capable of accommodating the whole of the soul of one of the non-physical races.

NOW THAT HUMAN BEING (in capital letters) was able to do so much more than we are capable of doing now. So in other words, it was highly developed, of psychic capability, psychic potential. We communicated with each other psychically. We could communicate with all living things psychically. We did very little in the way of food because the body was very much less dense than we’re used to, and so far as the earth was concerned, we had achieved what she had set out to achieve. Which was a perfect human being. That filled all the criteria of everybody within the Universe.

Lisa: So what went wrong?

Chris: Energy, unfortunately, and it’s always, always energy. Everything comes back to energy in the end. What we found was that the ‘Earth herself resonates at a frequency of 7.56 cycles per second (or Hz.) That base note frequency of the Earth – the base or root chakra of every living single thing on the planet resonated at 7.56 cycles per second, but that frequency was too low a frequency for the whole of the soul to remain intact within the physical body.

Lisa: So at the time of Lemuria, you could incarnate with the whole of the soul, but you couldn’t hold it for long?

Chris: No not Lemuria but Atlantis. Atlantis is where we developed this body formula. The human ife span at the time of Atlantis could be anything up to 2000 – 3000 years. So you know the old biblical one about Methuselah living till he was 900 and something years old. That was actually true.

Lisa: Having babies at 800 and stuff. Laughs

Chris: Yea. So that was our life-span but we couldn’t hold the whole of the soul within the body so we started losing some of the higher psychic functions. And this is when we started experimenting to see if there were ways around that. So there are people who have very bad memories of Atlantis, of genetic engineering and genetic experimentation and all of that sort of stuff. This is right at the end of Atlantis , because when we were having problems people did experiment a lot, and we ended up with all sorts of bizarre combinations and gene structures within peoples’ bodies.

We ended up in a situation where (this is a huge story but) we ended up with a bacteria which we couldn’t control, and so what we decided to do collectively – so, all the souls who were on Atlantis at that time collectively decided to prevent this bacteria from reaching other areas of the planet. We destroyed the continent. So literally we sank the continent of Atlantis into the Earth’s magma core (55:57) to destroy and contain this bacteria. And the Earth took 40,000 years to recover from that.

So, we destroyed Atlantis something like 65,000 years ago.

Lisa: This isn’t the ‘black goo’ is it?

Chris: What, the ‘black goo’ stuff? No. No. that’s something entirely different.

Transcribed by Herbert
posterd by turiya

[turiya]

Lisa Harrison interview with Chris Thomas
Part2
Source Video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HhE1aBSBzrc
Published: Oct. 15, 2012

VIDEO Part2

TRANSCRIPTION @ 56:23

Chris Thomas:
So we destroyed Atlantis and it took the Earth 40,000 years to recover. And we came back to the Earth 20,000 years ago. By we I mean all those souls from the non-physical races who wanted to come back and continue with this human experiment. So we came back to Earth and we started again with all of this.

And again we found that same problem. We had that 7.56 base note frequency which we tried several ways of overcoming. So this is what the pyramids, for example, are for in Egyptian pyramids, South American pyramids, Tibetan pyramids, and wherever you find pyramids on the planet. If you stood in the so-called King’s Chamber of the pyramids, and you made a tone, a voice tone of a specific frequency, then the whole thing would resonate at that frequency, and you could bring the whole of the soul back into the body.

It worked very well for a while but we started even having difficulties with that. So what we decided to do tactically was to divide the soul into 2. The so-called higher self makes up about 75% of the total soul and then there is the physical self which makes up about 25% of the totals soul. So what we decided to do was to live a series of lifetimes gaining knowledge as to what frequency we needed to alter our bodies to, and the Earth needed to alter her frequencies to so that we could maintain the whole of the soul within the body. And bring the Higher Self back in the physical body.

We started doing this 7000 years ago. It’s what the Akashic calls The Human Plan, so literally what we are trying to do is become human again, because as far as the Earth is concerned, for the past 7,000 years we’ve been SUBHUMAN, which explains a great deal about human history. And this is where we are at the moment. We’re at the end of that 7,000 year period. This is what December 21st 2012 case is all about.

We have worked out what the new frequency needs to be. Everybody on the planet has raised their frequency. This occurred in early October, 2011.

Lisa: So this 7.56 Hz you mentioned, is that what’s known as the Schumann Resonance?

Chris: Yes.

Lisa: And that’s the one that’s been rising.

Chris: Its raised. Yes Earth raised her own frequency back in May, 2000 to what the new frequency needs to be and that is 3.5 kHz. Which is considerably higher than 7.56 Hz. So, we’ve gone from 7.56 Hz to 3500 Hz. Now, Earth made that change back in 2000 and humans being humans it took us 10 years further to actually start catching up properly, but by the end of October 2011, we also had raised our energy levels. We had that frequency parity back with the earth at 3.5 KHz. And that’s where we’ve been for the past year at that 3.5 KHz which means that we can now move on. So this is what the end of 2012 is all about, the Mayan calendar and all of that. We are at the point where we can end this Human Plan. Where we can bring the whole of the Higher Self back into the physical body.

Lisa: Sorry. You’ve just brought up so many things for me – October last year (2011) you say?

Chris: Yes. October 29th 2011 was the actual date.

Lisa: So each individual has made a conscious soul choice.

Chris: Soul choice yes. Some have made it very consciously because they are aware of everything. But for most, unfortunately, it’s been only on a Higher Self level.

Lisa: To either raise our own vibration to match the Earth and to stay here, or to leave.

Chris: Yes.

Lisa: I personally had an experience at this time last year sort of end of August , September or where I felt a huge physical shift, or split, within the collective – that people had made a choice at that point and this could be the choice they made.

Chris: Well actually the choice was made in 1996 by everybody because there were new energy patterns back in 1996. they have been building up through the years to last October (2011).

Lisa: Well maybe I’m just a bit slow on the uptake. (Laughs)

Chris: That’s the one! Well in fairness we are operating at a frequency that is well below what we need to be, and we are operating at only one quarter of our full knowledge and potential within the body. It was inevitable that humans would be slow in catching up with things. There is no criticism for what our activities are anywhere in the Universe. Trying to understand what it is we have been through because we have been through one hell of a lot. Humans collectively have been literally ‘through the mill’. Literally we have been through everything you could possibly experience that could ever be on Earth. In order to understand and find a way of bringing back the whole of the soul back into the body.

Lisa: Well this is a subject that has come up many times on the radio show that I do and in various interviews about the number of peoples who would be choosing to leave the planet right now, and in the most amazing ways. You know the suicide rate has gone through the roof. I’ve had reports from both Federal and Local and State police that they are under orders not to talk about how many people are committing suicide. They are jumping in front of trains and off bridges and things. Um… murder suicides, freak accidents.

Chris: To give you the kind of scale we’re talking about here, in 1996, according to the Akashic the population peaked at 7.4 Billion. That was the human population in 1996 – never mind what the official figures say. October of 2011, the Akashic said that the human population is between 3.8 and 3.9 Billion.

Lisa: So how can we be getting told it’s more than twice that, and having it justified?

Chris: Propaganda. It’s propaganda. It’s fear-mongering by the Illuminati led government wants us to believe that we’re running out of available resources, and that they need to take greater and greater control over the population, so that they can control everything that goes on. This is what the New World Order is all about.

If you look at something like the Georgia Guidestones in America that were built in 1979 and it says in 8 languages that the Earth’s population must be reduced to a sustainable 500 Million. If you look at the UNCED agreement in Rio De Janeiro in 1992, it’s written into a massive document that government policy of all the governments who signed this document to reduce the world’s population to 500 Million in this century.

Lisa: It gets mentioned in Agenda 21 too doesn’t it?

Chris: Well yes, that ‘s what that document is - its Agenda 21 and the Biodiversity Treaty. So that is their stated aim to kill us off, but that is a Velon agenda because the Velon control the Illuminati. And the Illuminati control various governments, Bildebergers, Freemasons, you name it.

Source

Lisa: Well there’s every reason to believe that the Illuminati have been here, and working behind the scenes, for a lot longer than 350 years; so if the Velon have been behind the Illuminati . . .

Chris: Yea I can understand this. I’ve done a lot of research into this and there’s actually a book I wrote with a friend of mine, Dave Morgan, called Project Human Extinction which explains all of this.

Lisa: That’s a catchy title.

Chris: Yes, and unfortunately it’s very true. The book explains where the Illuminati came from, all the various levels of the Illuminati, various organizations that call themselves Illuminati. All the history - because don’t forget - the Illuminati just means the "illuminated ones" - who have more knowledge than any others. So you will find religious groups often call themselves Illuminati because they believe they have the truth of what the world is all about. So they are more illuminated than other people.

The other side of it of course is that the one who brings illumination is Lucifer. That’s what Lucifer means is 'the one who brings illumination'. So you’ve got all of that stuff mixed up together as well. So there is a huge untold history which is convoluted and really is a different kind of organization to what the current Illuminati aims are and what they’re up to.

So ultimately, the Illuminati are also known as the Bavarian Illuminati which was set up by Ansel Rothschild and Adam Weishaupt back in 1776. Now Weishaupt, if I can use a term that I really hate using because I don’t like it, is a 'walk-in'. The thing that 'walked-in' to Weishapt was a Velon. What it did was to take control of the Illuminati at its inception, and that’s how they gained control of it all because – how can I put this? – I also remote view. I can look at things from a remote distance which many find a problem. I don't find it a problem, it comes quite naturally to me.

I keep a very close eye on Velon activities just to find out what’s going on, and what really is happening in all of this, and a couple of years ago – I can’t remember the exact date off hand – The Illuminati and the Velon made a mistake which allowed to be released a lot of information that had previously been hidden in the Akashic. So I was able to pick up what had been going on and what was going on then.

"George Washington, whose elevation to the status of 'god' is recorded
on a frieze in the Rotunda in Washington DC"

ESSENTIALLY THE ILLUMINATI WERE DESTROYED PHYSICALLY JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.
If you’re working on a soul level rather than on a physical level, then your life span is very different. So this is what the Illuminati were all about. Virtually all of the original members of the Illuminati were still alive 350 years later as the Illuminati. And this is under the Velon influence. So, literally, George Washington was still alive, as a member of the Illuminati 3 years ago (2009). I know how bizarre that one sounds but that’s how they did it and that’s how they persuaded people. If somebody comes to you and says: “I can make you immortal in your physical body if you work with me and use the powers that are available to me.” Then an awful lot of people will go along with that.

You look at the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, whatever, they’re power crazy.

Lisa: And they all do seem to live to a decent ripe old age.

Chris: Yes and this is what drives them.. They have a huge drive in them. They want to hold on to the power that they have. So, if an alien turns up and says: “I can give you that power to have a long life that you crave if you work with me.” And this is what happened. So this is what happened with the Illuminati. They were taken over by the Velon right at their inception.

Lisa: So what do you mean they were destroyed though 3 years ago?

Chris: Um it’s a very convoluted story that one, but essentially because of these energy changes that are going on on the planet, then certain things of Velon and Illuminati activity could not be maintained, and it broke some of the energy patterns that the Velon were using to maintain their hold over the Illuminati, and by doing that it literally blew some of the Velon energies off the planet which literally blew the bodies of the Illuminati apart. Because they could no longer be sustained by the Velon frequencies.

So it’s basically that kind of process that went on and as I say it was only a few years ago.

Lisa: You say this information was actually released into the Akashic. Were they actually able to hold information and stop it from being released into the Akashic to be read?

Chris: Yes, if you have sufficient energy potential, which is what the Velon were deliberately doing, using some of their energy patterns to create a blank if you like within the Akashic or to not allow information to be released of events. Then yes, it can be done but it requires a vast amount of energy over a period of time to do that. But this unfortunately is what they did. The book Project Human Extinction has all the events and dates on this subject.

So that’s what happened and the pattern broke so that THE ILLUMINATI PRACTICALLY LOST THEIR POWER. AND THE GAP WAS FILLED BY POLITICIANS.

Because you have a lot of politicians who obviously know about the Illuminati and have been pushing to become members for a long time. So you have a sort of political coup occurring, oh say, about 3 years ago, if you like, (2009). So the situation started to shift a little bit, and the Velon energies were disrupted and broken. So literally, the whole pattern of their power base of the Illuminati broke at that point. It could not be reconstructed, which means that as humans are developing and moving forwards to the Dec21, 2012 date, the energies that have been holding us back, and causing us a lot of problems, have been broken, so there’s nothing holding us back anymore.

But even so, there are an awful lot of people on the planet who have already undergone whole soul reintegration. They are scattered in isolated communities around the planet. So it is now known that it is possible for a person to bring the whole of the higher self back into the body, even with the problems the Velon were creating.

The total disruption of the Velon hold on Illuminati and governments means there is nothing to stop anybody from going ahead and completing this process. You know, you said you felt this July the schism appearing within humanity as those who were saying "No, I can’t stay" and those who were saying "I want to stay." But for those who said they don't want to stay, there is nothing to stop them from staying, if that’s really what they want to do. So nobody is saying, “You’re a bad person. And you have to leave the planet.”

The option is still open to every single soul that is still physical on the planet. You can still do it. It just means clearing out a bit of rubbish from your life.

Lisa: So if you’re still here, there is still the possibility that you can change your mind. So, if our bodies have raised their frequencies so dramatically, how do we know? Is there any physical sign or symptom that will tell us that we’re in the process of doing this? Or is it simply you’ll know because you’ll be … basically the whole soul will be returned?

Chris: Well, as things stand at the moment, we’ve all been changing for 10 years now since 1996, a lot of people have been changing and we saw that first with the change of the colours of the chakras. You know the 7 chakras are traditionally the rainbow colours of red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet colours.

Those changed – so the 1st chakra went to a sort of coppery-gold colour, the 2nd went to a petrally-blue colour, the 3rd to petral green. And by the time you got to the 4th chakra you started to get into transparencies - so pure energy without any colour.

So there’s the intermediate stage. Literally there is nobody on the planet who is alive now who has the old chakra colours. I know there is a lot of people who say I still see the old chakra colours but that’s because it’s what they are looking for.
They are not looking at what is actually there.

And then after that, it changes to a transparency. So all of the chakras become totally transparent. And the next change is that the chakras actually disappear altogether. Because what the chakras actually are is aspects of the soul within the body. They are just concentrations of soul energy at particular points within the body. Each point relates to each of us as an individual person also on an emotional level and a physical level.

So you can read the chakras to find out why you’ve got health problems for example, because everybody has problems with the abdominal organs – at the 3rd chakra - organs. And what the 3rd chakra continues to deal with is issues of personal power – of how seriously are you taken by others around you. And the emotions connected with those situations. So for example the liver deals with fear and guilt, the gall bladder deals with anger, the stomach deals with literally things you can’t stomach, the intestine deals with emotions that you are trying to process but haven’t dealt with.

So everybody has problems in this region. This is why diets never work. I mean it’s got nothing to do with the food you eat. It’s emotions we haven’t expressed. So where people are having major problems is the abdomen, particularly within the liver because there is an awful amount of fear in the world at the moment. This is why a lot of people are dying from liver disease, liver cancer, whatever, because as that fear builds within people, they don't understand where it’s coming from so they don’t express it, so there liver literally breaks down and collapses.

So literally, the chakras were a way for the soul to communicate with us to say you’re going wrong in life. You need to change direction in life. And here’s a symptom to tell you how to do it. I’ve worked with disease for over 30 years and never found anybody who falls out of the chakra patterns on this planet. All the 1000’s of people I’ve worked with as a healer, everybody falls into identical patterns related to the chakras. So it does work, you can tell someone’s personality just by what their symptoms are.

Once we bring the Higher Self to within the body, we don’t need the chakras any longer because the communication from the Higher Self is instantaneous. You don’t need the slightly separate chakra division. So that is the penultimate stage where we have brought enough of Higher Self into the body to where we are ready to make that final change to full consciousness. Quite a few million people around the planet are in that stage.

Lisa: So is that final stage September 21, 2012?

Chris: It should have happened before - the end of 2011. We should have had a year where we sorted ourselves out and gradually changed from the end of October 2011. But because of all the political shenanigans that are going on , the very deliberate attempt using things like HAARP to hold us back has prevented this change from occurring. It has been much more of a struggle than it was intended.

Lisa: It has been an interesting year actually in terms of fear mongering and supposed events we are told will take place and what has actually happened.

Chris: Yes very little in comparison. (1:20:26)

Lisa: And so the fear-mongering has gone into overdrive and you’re saying that’s a part of the attempt to keep people in the fear state so that they don’t go through this integration process.

Chris: Yes. Well one of the biggest weapons they’re using is HAARP. The American military who obviously control HAARP has admitted that they’re flooding the planet with extra low frequency (ELF) entities. And this is a deliberate attempt to reverse the shift from a 7.56 Hz to a 3.5 KHz.

Lisa: To what benefit, though? I mean if their agenda is to eliminate most of the population to under half a Billion people . . .

Chris: It’s about control. That’s all it’s about. It really is about control. You know, if you look at several of the books that are written around Sitchin’s translations and the Anunnaki. It says we were a slave race. We were built by the Anunnaki as a slave race. This is what Sitchin’s story is all about. You know we were built to work in the gold mines of Africa on the Anunnaki behalf, and therefore that’s in the back of people’s minds – that we are a slave race. What they are trying to do is to recreate that slave race.

So, what the Illuminati agenda appears to be is that we have 500 Million people on the planet that are slaves, literally slaves to however many of the elite are left. So you know there are a few thousand elite that are connected with the Illuminati and the Velon and the 500 Million become slaves to them. And they just have their power and that’s really all it’s about is just holding onto power.

Lisa: And the more people who are able to integrate more of their soul, the less their chances are of doing this.

Chris: they would throw it all away because they cannot have control and power and fear over a population that has the whole soul within the body. That’s why they’re trying to stop people.

Lisa: So the Akashic is telling you what’s already taken place, so how do you extrapolate from that what’s going to occur over the next few months?

Chris: Well you see, that’s the problem, the Akashic doesn’t. (Laughs) It doesn’t predict.

Lisa: But you do.

Chris: No, no I make very few predictions. The Mayan calendar ended on October 29, 2011. So Calleman’s date is correct. So it gave us through this year to sort ourselves out and all the rest of it. But we’ve had a hell of a struggle because of all the fear mongering and the use of HAARP frequencies to try and slow everything down. So nobody really knows.

We are faced with a situation that has never existed anywhere in this Universe, EVER. Nobody is going through the kind of processes that Humans are going through at the moment. It has never ever been done before. This is the first time, and so nobody knows, really, how it’s going to work or which way things are going to go and all the rest of it. All we have at the moment is a rough idea of the number of people who have said YES they can exist and they are going to go through with it and the number of people who said NO they can’t. “We’re not going to go through with it, we’re going to die and leave our bodies behind and return to our basis of origin. We’re going to go back to the 6 non-physical Races."

Lisa: And you can look at the Akashic and see what the numbers are. Where are we at, at the moment? (October 15, 2012)

Chris: Roughly what we’re looking at on the face of it is something like 2.4 Billion people have said they will. So bearing in mind that the current population is about 3.8 Billion, it means that those who are going to change are in the majority. And those who are not is, you know the remainder, 1.4 Billion people.

Lisa: Do you see major Earth changes and catastrophic circumstances as being a way that some of these people leave or what do you think the Earth itself, having made the choice that she’s made is going to do this gently?

Chris: Laughs... Well there are some indications as to what is going to happen as far as the Earth is concerned. I mean, for example, there is no such thing as ‘tectonic plate movement’. What has happened is that throughout history and over time, the Earth has expanded. All of the continents have always been more or less in the same position that they are now. The Earth has just gotten bigger and at a couple of points she has actually got smaller, and then increased in size again. So at the moment the Earth is 10% below her maximum size. Actually close to 5% her maximum size. The size she was on Atlantis.

So if you think of the Earth as a consciousness, her consciousness expands and contracts to suit human consciousness expansion and contraction.

Lisa: So it’s like breathing.

Chris: Literally yes. So she’s working with us. You know the root chakra is given that name because it literally connects the human soul into the earth. We are all interconnected with the planet herself. So as we alter our situations, then she responds as well. So the Earth needs to get a little bit bigger than she is now. We should have seen, for example, the San Andreas Fault should have popped 20 years ago, because she needed to get bigger. She needs that room for expansion. But unfortunately, what we also have is HAARP frequencies are being used to hold those points together. So those things like the Chile earthquake were caused by HAARP quite deliberately.

There are other regions which are ready to expand, that HAARP is being used to hold closed. There have been many predictions of massive earthquakes and tsunamis hitting the Pacific Rim like the Eastern coast which is where Sidney is in Australia. There has been a lot of predictions of that happening. And you know we saw the Japanese earthquake a few years ago. The Rim is shifting. It’s trying to move. But HAARP is being used to stitch it together and prevent that from happening because they don’t want the Earth expanding to full consciousness in the same way that they don’t want people moving into full consciousness.

It’s because then they would lose their control. I mean it’s immensely narrow-minded ridiculous views that the Anunnaki and Illuminati have. That’s what they seem to have that - they are determined to prevent the change form occurring because then they would lose their position of power and controls.

Lisa: So does that mean that when she does get the opportunity to expand she’s going to do it sort of sharply. . . .

Chris: It will be spectacular yes. And this has been a problem that has been discussed by all souls connected with the Earth for a long time. Now, as to how to prevent a nuclear winter from occurring, because obviously there is a point where we must achieve what we set out to achieve. And then all the people die because there’s no food on the planet because of a nuclear winter?

So there are all sorts of combinations and factors being discussed and looked at, and this is why I can’t say to you: “This is what is going to happen.” because literally nobody knows. There is no way you could estimate what is going to happen over these next 3 months leading up to Dec. 21, 2012. Or even the next 50 years.

There are a lot of people who have said: “I am ready to make this change.” Because they have done so hopefully, but they are not in any way, shape or form ready to make this change because they can’t. At some point, therefore they will have to die. They cannot sustain their positions on the planet because their energy frequencies will be too low. So do these people have to die before Dec. 21, 2012? Or will they be allowed to live out their natural lifespan for the next 40 or 50 years?

Nobody knows the answer to that one. This is what I mean by it is impossible to predict what is really going to happen over the next few years. Just because I know what it will be like in 2050 doesn’t mean I know what it will be like between now and 2050.

Lisa: Sorry, did you say you know what it will be like in 2050?

Chris: Yes, it will be like it was on Atlantis: no pollution, we’ll be able to psychically communicate with each other, communicate with every living thing, freely travel around the planet by translocation. It is literally all you do is remote view a spot, think about it and take your body along with your thought, so you can shift continents just by thinking about it.

Lisa: But how do you know that?

Chris: That kind of life is what we should be living and we will be again, but for those who make this change by 21/12/12 will be able to do so almost immediately.

Lisa: So is there anything we can consciously do to make this change?

Chris: Work with your Higher Self. That is all that you can really do. It’s the best thing that you can do is make sure your communication with your Higher Self is as strengthened as possible. And listen to what your Higher Self is saying to you. I know a lot of people complain about: “My Higher Self is saying this to me but I want to do the right thing so I don’t miss it or what’s being said in case I misunderstand it.” But it doesn’t happen that way.

Communication from the Higher Self is basically intuition. So you can be doing something and say: “What I really must do is this. I must sort out this situation with Great Aunt Lucy. It has been hanging on for years and years and I’ve never done anything about it.” That’s communication from your Higher Self.

Because by leaving situations unresolved like that means you are holding onto all the emotional issues and problems that you have never sorted out and let go of. Literally, what that does is take up space that your Higher Self could occupy within the body; so you need to clear all of those out.

Lisa: What about relationships?

Chris: Can I plug another book?

Lisa: Absolutely.

Chris: Well my latest book is called Synthesis and what it does is to go through basic overall history of humanity and what’s been going on, but most importantly what’s in the back are exercises for people to do for themselves. It is a series of meditations where you can work with your Higher Self, reinforce the connection with your Higher Self so that communication becomes so much easier and then there’s another meditation that allows you to access the Akashic for yourself, so that you can work out what you need to do for you and how to resolve those overall situations for yourself.

And there are a few other exercises as well in the back of that book to help you clear out this emotional debris that is within your system. You know it’s not impossible. If people want to go through this change, this soul integration process, there is absolutely nothing outside of themselves to stop them from doing so. Even if they said no, they don’t want to do it in the past, it doesn’t matter, they can change their mind as long as they are prepared to put the work in to do it. And all that work is getting connected with the Higher Self and clearing out the emotional debris. And that’s what we need to do.

Lisa: It all sounds so easy. (Laughs)

Chris: It is. You know I’ve been working with quite a few people over the past years who’ve been working out this process for themselves and they are scared stiff of doing it. They are absolutely petrified of taking the responsibility of looking at what their emotional problems are of dealing with Great Aunt Elsie or whatever it is in your life. And then they start to do it and they realize . . . It’s hard to start but once you’ve started everything starts to fall into place. I mean everything, your whole life just smoothes out and all your problems disappear because you’ve resolved that situation.

Lisa: But what if you’ve got a sort of Aunt Elsie type character in your life who was just a negative, disruptive force?

Chris: Well most people have got those.

Lisa: So what do we do with those? Are we supposed to make peace with them?

Chris: If there’s a way to do it, then yes.

Lisa: I mean it doesn’t mean you have to have them in your life does it?

Chris: Well I’ll give you an example. I mentioned my mother earlier literally preventing me from investigating the psychic side of things and what I could do within the Akashic and stuff. I tried for many years to explain to her what I was doing and why I was doing it and all I ever met from her was resistance and total opposition. And I said, “that’s enough!” and I have had no contact with any member of my family for the last 12 years. I just walked away from them, I said get stuffed I’m not having it in my life any longer. And it worked you know. It sounds like a harsh thing to do and even sounds like a difficult thing to do but for a lot of people that is the best way of dealing with it. Just say I’ve had enough of this. Go away.

Lisa: But the important part is dealing with your emotions around it.

Chris: You are the ones carrying it. More often than not, the people causing you problems don’t know they’re causing you problems. Because you’ve never told them that they’re causing you problems.

Lisa: There’s also psychopaths aplenty and many of us have to deal with that. Many of us have them in our lives and in our personal lives and they know that they’re disruptive.

Chris: Yes and so what you have to do is walk away from them. Get rid of them out of your life.

Lisa: A lot of the new age talk is, you know, you’ve got to be light and love and forgive.

Chris: If I could use a very English word for that: Bullocks!! (Laughs all around.) But it’s true. I’ve had people come on to me and say well surely we must love the Velon because after all they’re only misguided and that’s where that word comes in. I mean it’s utter rubbish, why do you want to love your enemies. It’s not going to change them. It’s not going to make a bloody bit of difference as to how they act.

But what you need to do is to change the way you act so you need to tell them to get stuffed and you need to sort out this emotional debris you’ve been carrying around with you. You do that and you’re there. Literally you can change over night.

People say it’s difficult and all of this, but it really isn’t. As I say I’ve been working with many people over months with e-mails and that’s what they’re finding. Once they start, it suddenly becomes very, very easy. Everything falls into place. Their life, and all the problems in their life, just smooth out. They’re gone. Trouble free. Everything just happens as it should be and they know that they’re ready.

Lisa: In your healing work, do you work with people remotely?

Chris: I have done in the past. I tend not to at the moment. The reason for that is that in trying to find out what the Velon are up to, They’ve been watching me quite a lot and I’ve been attacked quite severely by the Velon energetically, which has resulted in a lot of physical damage to my body. So my concern is that if I go off and remote view someone for healing work, I might then make them a target for the Velon who are watching me, which I REALLY don’t want to do because that then becomes not very clever. I will still do it sometimes but I need to be extra careful so that there are no Velon watchers or even NSA watchers because the NSA watch a lot of the time as well.

Lisa : And as for your books they are available from www.cygnus-books.co.uk aren’t they?

Chris: Yes. Amazon has banned them all. I know quite a few people who have tried ordering through Amazon and they will tell you they are unavailable and Amazon has never ever placed an order with the publishers.

Lisa: You must be doing something right. That’s always a good sign. I want to thank you very, very much.

Chris: Well it’s a pleasure to speak with you. I hope I made some kind of sense along the way.

Transcribed by Herbert
posted by turiya

[Flash]

Onawah, we seem to be reading Simon Parkes totally at the reverse. Anyhow, one of us is wrong in its interpretation.

update:Simon Parkes concurs with CT to some extent on the reason CERN was actually developed, which is to create a wormhole, but according to him, it is desirable so that some of the negatively oriented still on Earth can escape. There's a great thread about him here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t=simon+parkes

Found some quotes, Simon does not seem at all to be wanting the Cern Hadron Collider to work

Hi,
Fifi,
If they activate it - they will reduce the ability of humans to "connect" at a critical time, no disaster, no nothing like that, it is designed to manupilate time as humans understand it, its rather a simple machine, complex in its opperation I dont doubt but its purpose is simple. You cant stop it, but you can hold true to your values and what makes you, well, special X
Simon.




Quote Posted by fifi (here)
Hi Simon,

You said



Quote if your interested... you know of the hadron Collidor ? called also the Cern ? in Switzland.
Its real purpose is Time / and the potential manupilation of " dark matter"
I understand that it is to be activated on 22nd december 12.00 noon 2012 ( but this might change by a day either way) should it be activated around this time it would not be helpfull.
Simon
What will happen if it is to be activated? If it creates a disaster, what can we do to prevent its activation?

Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge and insight here.

With much respect,
Fifi

The strangest thing is happening right now. I have seen a few posts of people who truly liked Simon Parkes, like you Onawah (I presume). Those posts were distorting the information given to us by Simon. If not plainly contrary to what he said. I had to correct someone else lately who likes Simon but was miscarrying the information.

I Wonder why this is happening. It borders disinformation, unconscious disinformation. Someone may be p ed at Simon up there and be playing with our brains.

[soleil]

hey turiya, i loved how he says to tell people (that you dont want in your life) to "get stuffed". if not just another thing i like so far about ct.

[heretogrow]

Dear Flash I have been away for a while and I don't follow. Can you explain what you mean? I will try to revisit the thread and gain some understanding but if you clarify your meaning that may help to send me in the right direction...so much to catch up on, you know!

[onawah]

Hey Flash! Actually, I think Simon said both things, that if they build the new CERN ( the first one didn't accomplish its purpose, to allow the negative ETs trapped on Earth to escape), its operation certainly would be bad for the Earth, but its purpose would be to allow the negative ETs to leave the planet. There's a window deadline for the new one though, and it looks unlikely they will be able to finish building it in time to meet the date. Presumably then, the ETs will die, as they cannot withstand the new frequencies here.

I hope I don't have to go back and read all of that Simon Parkes thread again too!
( I wonder what Simon and James Gilliland will say about CT's statements that the Mantids and Lion People don't register on the Akashic as living beings? )

Following is what I've got so far from reading this thread, though I did it much too quickly, so if there are discrepancies, I apologize. And I've only just read this last page, and not really integrated it yet...


I'm glad to see at the Cygnus site that C.T.'s books aren't that pricey in the UK, at least, though shipping to the US will certainly up the price.

I've come up with a few questions so far (which hopefully are worth noting) after finishing reading the thread quickly once, though I will have to go back and read it all again as it's a lot to process and I'm sure not all of it has registered. But after I've posted this tonight (well—morning...), I'm going to bed!


From:https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-Thomas/page7
Chris: “Sure. Okay. The Velon are a semi-physical race. They originate in a Galaxy – if you look up at the night sky, the Galaxy is behind the constellation of Sagittarius, but about 38 Galaxies beyond the constellation. Although, the Velon have access to several Galaxies, like the other semi-physical races do, they intended to stick to their own Solar System. 

Now, their Solar System has two Suns – it’s a binary system – and, eight planets. Three orbit around one Sun, four orbit around another, and the 8th planet orbits both Suns. I am trying to think of the names of the planets… There’s a Marduk, there’s a Tiamat, and a Nibiru. Nibiru is also called Anu, by the people that live on it.”

So in the false annals that the Annunaki created for our solar system, they said that there was a “war” between the planets of Tiamat and and Marduk, and the asteroid belt and our Moon is the result, if I recall rightly. According to Chris, it was actually the explosion of 2 planets from our solar system that created the damage responsible for the asteroid belt and our Moon, however. Was there actually a “war” of the planets Tiamat and Marduk in the Velon system?
Do planets have disagreements and fights?
What about comets that hit planets? Do they have “issues” with those planets? !!

Does Chris discuss in his books more of what the Velon did who went back in time and were trapped over the centuries on Earth, after they created the false annals? What finally happened to them? Were they all able to survive to the current day (since he states they are basically immortal, provided their bodies aren't destroyed. Did they go to Mars? I think I've read his comments on this, but I've forgotten now...
Can he offer any proof that George Washington and others of the Founding Fathers lived on in the same bodies up until recently?

Is the giant 2 mile long ship on the dark side of the Moon a Velon ship? What is its history and purpose? What happened to the rest of the crew?

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Chris: “The biggest thing about Human technology is that it is destructive. So, in other words, everything we do to build something involves the destruction of something else. Even, doing something supposedly simple like taking oil out of the ground, uses a massive amount of energy in order to do so, creates massive pollution, and then requires massive more amounts of energy to refine that oil into something we can use. If you look at the semi-physical races, what they do is work with what is available on their planet. So, if you want to build a flying saucer, for example, they don’t mine material in the way that we would. What they do is they work on very psychic levels. And so, what they do is create a psychic template for the shape of the craft they want to build. 
And they use living plants to grow that shell. So, in other words, the plant grows & expands itself around the psychic template that’s been built. So, its like an organic metal, almost. So, that’s the kind of technological level that the semi-physical races work at, which is on a very natural level – they only use whatever is available within their environment. They don’t actually destroy anything. 

And if you look at the propulsion systems that all the semi-physical races use for their craft, they use the natural flux of electromagnetic energies that actually hold this Universe together. I mean, forget about gravity. Gravity doesn’t exist. What we have is a conscious Universe that’s held together by electromagnetic forces. So they use those electromagnetic forces as a means of propulsion. So, in other words, they are not taking from anything, they’re not destroying anything on their planet, they’re not creating any pollution anywhere. They’re using what is naturally available. 

And the same, more or less, applies to the Velon. The Velon technology is based on that level, as well. For example, these ‘Me’ computer discs are actually made from something like yeast. Again, that’s the nearest I can come to in terms to what we have available on Earth. “

Henrik: It’s a biological technology. 

Chris: “Yes, it’s a biological memory system, yes, that’s a good way of putting it. So, they put the ingredients… whatever their equivalent to yeast would be put into a mold, and they psychically program that mold. So, as that mold grows into the shape of the disc, it takes on the imprint of whatever its been programmed to do. So again, its very natural technology. Although, the… Velons on their home planets do mine for minerals & raw materials. But, again, they don’t destroy the planet.”

Chris says above that the Velon are semi-physical and that they do not destroy their planets , but then he contradicts himself and says the Velon have used up everything on their planets. ....???

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Chris says that most of the souls of the humans on earth are actually non-physical beings who came here millions of years ago. Yet there seem to be souls here at all different levels of intelligence, experience, sophistication, adaptability, “soul age”, etc. Why is that? What about autistic people, people with Downs Syndrome, etc. Are those conditions a result of karma? Or are those semi-physical souls who came here later and so have had a harder time learning how to be more fully operational in physical bodies?

Will the individual souls who were once part of a unified soul, that became “soul groups” eventually reintegrate back into one unified soul? I think Chris spoke of group souls somewhere, but the idea I am aware of that the individual souls regroup again is from “The Michael Teachings”, if Chris is not aware of that system—there is lots of info about it online.)

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Chris:“Effectively, they destroyed most of the life on all the other planets. Earth managed to survive, and what she did was to adopt part of one of the planets as the moon, because we didn’t have a moon prior to this explosion occurring. So the moon is there because the Earth wanted… well, I’m not entirely certain what she wanted… so the moon is sitting there, and having influence on Earth & the Earth is influencing the moon, and all the rest of it.”[

Why were the two planets which blew themselves up so unconcerned about the damage they would do to the rest of the planets? Did they not realize what the result would be?

I don't remember now the sources of the theory that the Moon is older than Earth, and that, from the study of Moon rock that has been done so far, it appears to actually be from a different solar system because it doesn't match the rock from any of the other planet, asteroids, etc., but I know I've seen it and it seemed fairly well researched. Does anyone remember who was disseminating that information?

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Is Chris aware of the book “The Ringmakers of Saturn/” by Norman Bergrun? If so, what does he think about it?
What about Alex Collier's work? Does Chris think Alex got any of that right, particularly the part about the Paa'taal? ( See: http://www.alexcollier.org/ )

Do the Creators of the Universe continue to direct involve themselves in what happens once the galaxies are created, or is it essentially up to the created to take it all from there?

Why are the elites building so many underground cities?

[Flash]

Onawah, please find me the source of what Simon says, about Cern being a good thing allowing ETs to leave, because I have not seen it anywhere. And I did read everything more than once. As I always do when i have to understand. And yes, you should go back in order not to promote wrong ideas. What I did is search Cern and Simon Parkes in the Avalon search engine.

What I read is that Cern was used as a wormhole for them to go back and forth and that they intented to use it again and keep it open before the énergies of the local universe have change and that they cannot anylonger. But keeping Cern's wormhole open this was not a good thing because we do not want them to be able to come here again. The wormhole has to be closed. And tough luck for those caught here not able to go back. It is the way I interpreted it after reading.

You are one of the good ones Onawah, with your sincerity and hard work. Imagine what is going around if even you, or I, are misreading or misinterpreting, imagine the rest of the planet.

That being said, I wish I can trust what you said about Chris here above too. kidding you today.

However, now I understand why in research they insist we gave the name, the year and even the page of the sources we talk about. I think that it is a humain caracteristic to reinterpret our way, often in order to undrestand, or make sense of things, or fit it in our old paradigm.

Chris always gives his source, we just do not have the ability to check it. lol

Last week one professor asked me the source of what I had mentioned in class, in front of 100 students. I was taken aback, not knowing what to answer, because the source was me. I had to tell the source was me and my experience in the field.

[onawah]

Thanks Flash. When I have time, I will look back on the Simon Parkes thread to see where I saw what I think I saw.
Or perhaps someone else reading this can clarify for us.
It was me saying it would be a good thing for the negative ETs to leave-- I don't think Simon said that, and I should have clarified that. Apologies.
I didn't mean that it would be a good thing to keep the wormhole open, just good for the ETs to leave.
But I think I do remember pretty clearly that he said the first CERN didn't do the job.
So they have started construction on a new one, and there is a narrow window of opportunity for that one to work, so it follows that the new facility may not even be built in time to be of use.
If that happens, presumably they are stuck here for a long while, though if that's true, I suppose we don't know if they will be able to withstand the new, higher frequencies on Earth.
I would imagine they could create some technology that would allow for that, but apparently they are anxious to leave at this point, and certainly welcome to leave, too, from our perspective!!
That info may have been in one of the video interviews and not transcribed or quoted or written here by Simon, so the search engine wouldn't work in that case.
Thanks Flash, you are one of the good ones too.
As to trusting anything anyone has written here, you know very well by now, I'm sure, that you have to use your own discernment.
We can only speculate about this kind of information.
Maybe we are just going to have to learn to read the Akashic Records ourselves.
Now, that would really be interesting!

[Flash]

Posted by onawah (here)
Thanks Flash. When I have time, I will look back on the Simon Parkes thread to see where I saw what I think I saw.
Or perhaps someone else reading this can clarify for us.
It was me saying it would be a good thing for the negative ETs to leave-- I don't think Simon said that, and I should have clarified that. Apologies.
I didn't mean that it would be a good thing to keep the wormhole open, just good for the ETs to leave.
But I think I do remember pretty clearly that he said the first CERN didn't do the job.
So they have started construction on a new one, and there is a narrow window of opportunity for that one to work, so it follows that the new facility may not even be built in time to be of use.
If that happens, presumably they are stuck here for a long while, though if that's true, I suppose we don't know if they will be able to withstand the new, higher frequencies on Earth.
I would imagine they could create some technology that would allow for that, but apparently they are anxious to leave at this point, and certainly welcome to leave, too, from our perspective!!
That info may have been in one of the video interviews and not transcribed or quoted or written here by Simon, so the search engine wouldn't work in that case.
Thanks Flash, you are one of the good ones too.
As to trusting anything anyone has written here, you know very well by now, I'm sure, that you have to use your own discernment.
We can only speculate about this kind of information.
Maybe we are just going to have to learn to read the Akashic Records ourselves.
Now, that would really be interesting!

You may be able to ask him yourself, he may come back because he has more free time these day, he was much too busy all spring and summer and he is sorry he could not maintain his thread. So we will see....

[onawah]

Thanks Flash. I went back and corrected my earlier post in this thread where I mis-quoted Simon.
I've been keeping very late hours lately, and it has been addling my brain, apparently, which I also intend to correct!
It would be interesting to see what Simon thinks about the info from Chris Thomas.

[Herbert]

Regarding Gobekli Tepe



Fantastic photos of Gobekli Tepe here:
http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-ci...n-2448608.html


Turiya I was just reading the great job you did at formatting and inserting pictures in the Lisa Harrison interview with Chris Thomas.

Thank You for that fine job.

I did come across a slip of the tongue that Chris Made.

This is a subject I’ve been recently discussing with Chris.

And I am wondering if you could perhaps clarify that bit perhaps by using square brackets with note or something like red colour or whatever to alert the reader to a mistake made by Chris in his dating – probably just a slip of the tongue or memory.

Gobekli Tepe is the most important archaeological discovery ever.

It has NOT been written about as much in English as in other languages probably because of the ban on truth in the Western World. The Anunnaki only went back in time to 5000 yrs ago but this archaeological site which contains the TRUE UR and EDEN goes back 18,000 years according to the Akashic and 14,000 according to C-14 dating..


Quote from Lisa Harrison intview:

Gobekli Tepe

All that is there is an old temple complex, what archaeologists are describing as the oldest complex ever found on earth which they date to being 14,000 years ago, but the Akashic dates it as more 7,000 years ago. Just down the road form Gobekli Tepe is the ancient biblical city of Ur of the Chaldeas, which is where Abraham originated. The Old Testament is all about Abraham and his descendants, and also Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. These all originated from Abraham.

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A message from Chris Thomas (note Chris calls it Kobekli Tepe:



To get to Ur of the Chaldes, we have to return to Kobekli Tepe in southern Turkey/northern Iraq.

Archaeologists have dated the site at Kobekli Tepe to 14,000 years ago making it, in archaeological terms, the oldest man-made structure on the planet.

The Akashic would date it earlier than that at 18,000 years ago making it roughly the same age as the Pyramids of Egypt, south America, Tibet etc.

The archaeologists have been burrowing away at Kobekli Tepe for about 20 years and have uncovered all sorts of material that coincides with the stories in the Old Testament.

With their findings there, they have also found that nobody lived at the Kobekli site but lived about 3 km away in a town called Ur of the Chaldes. A village still exists on the site of the ancient town but I cannot remember what it is now called.

It is known (through both the Akashic and archaeological findings) that the people who inhabited the region around Kobekli called the region Eden. It is also known that they moved from this region, through Assyria and into Egypt then, from Egypt they moved north to Palestine and became the Jewish peoples.

Given that Ur was the home of Abraham, the claimed originator of the Jewish peoples as well as the founding father of Islam, would it not make considerably more sense that this Ur, next to Kobekli, is the actual Ur of the Chaldes of the Old Testament? It could be argued just on the names alone but all of the archaeological findings sort of confirm it really.

This means that Ur could not possibly be located in Rumania.

The peoples of Eden/Ur/Kobekli seemed to have moved from the region about 5,000 years ago, moving through Assyria/Babylon where they would have met the Southern Sumerians moving north to, eventually, northern India and Tibet.

Given this time frame, both groups (N and S Sumerians) would have avoided the Scythians as they did not rise until about 4,000 years ago.

The tablets that Sitchin translated were consistently dated to about 5,000 years ago and so it is possible that the S Sumerians took the story with them on their journey North and became the basis of some of the Indian (Hindu) Vegas.

What is very strange about the Sitchin/Annunaki tablets is that the tablets state very clearly at the beginning of each section of the story something like: “This story has been dictated to a scribe”.

If Gardner was correct in his assertions that the Annunaki were the Ring Lords then it would be automatic that anything they said would be taken down by a scribe. If the scribe was recording historic events, again it would be written as a record of those events and the scribe would not be mentioned. Everyone would know this and so why would the scribe make it clear that it was being dictated to him?

Surely it would only be noted if the dictation was of something unusual? In other words, this was not history recorded as it happened, but a particular story that was given to someone to write down in cuneiform writing.
This is the only story that I am aware of from any past time where the scribe makes this distinction.

Incidentally, the Scythians were so war-like that the Chinese built the Great Wall to defend themselves from them.
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- vampires -

The Roman Church had taken full control of virtually all of the ancient kingdoms of Europe by the eleven hundreds - except for one: Transylvania.

Transylvania was ruled by a King Vlad who was, amongst other things, a magician and alchemist who would have nothing to do with the Vatican. Any priest that entered his kingdom was asked to leave, if the priest refused, he was killed - see below.
The Vatican was not too happy with this as Vlad’s opposition could spread to other royal families.

Vlad had several unusual practices that the Vatican latched on to.
For example, Vlad believed that menstrual blood contained the “essence” of life and so he, and his followers, used to drink this blood as part of their practices.

If someone broke the law or offended him, Vlad had the moat to his castle lined with sharpened wooden stakes with the points pointing upwards. If anyone offended Vlad too much he had them thrown off the parapets and onto the stakes.
It might sound barbaric but compare that with the Vatican’s practices of boiling in oil, burnt alive, hung drawn and quartered and hundreds of variations that come under the term torture.

Vlad sounds very tame in comparison.

In order to vilify Vlad, the Vatican came up with the idea of exaggerating, to the extreme, Vlad’s practices - especially the drinking of blood and driving a stake through the heart.

When the story made up by the Vatican arrived in Britain, it was turned into the Vampire story by Bram Stoker and the story spread widely as did the concept of Vampires.

Whether the name “Vampire” was a Vatican invention, I do not know, it depends on what it translates to out of Latin. [It is actually Magyar language root and translates to Witch]

The Earth Created the Faerie and the Sidhe (Shee) 20 million years ago to tend the plant life of the planet. For Gardner to suggest that they are somehow connected to the Velon/Annunaki story, I find deeply insulting to the Earth and to the Faerie.

As I said at the beginning, Gardner’s version of the Ring Lords is so farcical and so insulting that I couldn’t really read all of it. It is a blessing that Gardner died in 2010 so we won’t have any more of this guff. Incidentally, Sitchin also died in 2010.

Best wishes
Chris



Part 2
In the Celtic languages names are descriptive of something such as the people's origins or an activity that the family clans were known for.

It is most usually assumed that travel between continents did not begin until comparatively recent times but that is not the case.

To begin with, transportation between continents was carried out by psychic means (translocation) but, by about 8,000 years ago, we could no longer achieve that level of psychic potential.

But, we had become used to meeting with the various human groups located around the planet and could still use ancient energy sites (pyramids, stone circles etc) to travel across the planet up until about 4,000 years ago (one stepped into the pyramid/stone circle and thought of the destination and the energies of the pyramid/circle would do the rest).

Also, we needed to develop a written form of language and so the Sumerians developed a form of writing that was based on the nerve impulses that run up and down the spine. This first language was a little like binary code in that it was a series of lines but with various additions to a line to differentiate one letter from another.

This "first language" was used world-wide but we know it as Runes (northern version), Ogham (Western version). My knowledge of the scientific descriptions of ancient languages is very limited but I do know that the Sumerian version was a precursor to Cuneiform, the Native American and South American versions were similar to Ogham as is the Australian Aboriginal version and the African version and the Minoans had a system identical to the Sumerian original.

This first language came about 12,000 years ago.

The ancient Egyptians also used this "Ogham" form originally and it was the origin of the main Egyptian language.

Hieroglyphs were developed as a "sacred" language only for the use of the developing priesthood and the Pharaoh.

When the Victorian scientists first translated Ancient Greek, everyone tried to claim that their language, mathematics, philosophy etc was based on ancient Greek as the scientists identified it as the "First" great civilisation.

BUT, don't forget that the Celtic peoples of northern Europe were using Pythagorean geometry at least 2,000 years before Pythagorus was born.
So attaching language roots to ancient Greek is very dodgy especially as ancient Greek arose from Minoan roots.

When we returned to the Earth 20,000 years ago (40,000 years after the destruction of Atlantis), we colonised 6 different regions of the planet.

One of the main regions was northern Europe. This included parts of Russia, France, Spain, Britain and Ireland. This meant that all of these regions were energetically similar but the primary energy source was in Britain.

When we began to lose our higher psychic functions, these "Celtic" peoples were the ones who built stone circles to record information (within the stones themselves) and to provide the energy links, connecting into lay lines, that allowed for travel across the planet to the other groups.

As we lost more and more of these higher functions, we developed languages, both written and spoken, that evolved along similar lines - not quite a common language, but close.

This is why, even today, there are marked similarities between Welsh, Irish Gaelic, Scottish Gaelic, Russian, French and Basque.

The material that has been unearthed at Kobekli Tepe, in southern Turkey/northern Iraq, confirms that the region was invaded by a group of "Tall Pale Peoples" who came from the north and set themselves up as gods. These "Pale Peoples" were the people behind the Jewish histories that the Velon "stole" to make up their version of human history.

These pale northerners brought with them a great deal of "religious-type" beliefs that have been incorporated into several traditions. When these northern Sumerians moved south through Assyria, into Egypt and then on to Israel to become the Jewish peoples they brought these stories of the invaders with them. But, as yet, I have been unable to find any reference to the Anu within this history. Most of this is due to the fact that every branch of all religions have condemned the material released by the archaeologists from the site as being heretical as it makes the Old Testament what it really is - a history book as opposed to a book of faith.

Because of this, getting hold of the information archaeologists have released from Kobekli Tepe is buried away in professional journals and not readily available.

It is possible that the name "Anu" originated with these pale northerners but, at the moment, it seems unlikely.

Getting into the Velon section of the Akashic is extremely difficult as they seem to have sealed it away as much as they possibly can. I do know that the Velon did create a false version of their Akashic to try and throw off anyone who tried to investigate their origins or intentions and so it is possible that some of the names they use are of Earth origin rather than Velon but, so far, it is impossible to track all of the truth.

So whether the name "Anu" originated with the pale northerners and was adopted by the Velon is, so far, impossible to trace.


Best wishes
Chris

[turiya]

Posted by onawah (here)
I'm on page 5 of this thread now, and would love to read CT's books, but I have checked and they are pretty pricey for my budget and aren't widely available, so what I have seen and read here is all I will have to go on for now, at least. And I have questions, though perhaps some of those are answered on pages 6 and 7, but here goes, anyway.... Does he answer questions on any of the websites where his info is being featured, or might he join us here on Avalon? I certainly would like to run some questions by him!

I sincerely doubt that Chris would become a member of Avalon. He has been ruthlessly attacked by the Velon/NSA over the years which has weakened his health. We're lucky to get his occasional update & interview when they become available.

Posted by onawah (here)
I noticed that you, Turiya, quoted Sir Laurence Gardner in one of your posts.

That was an excerpt - a quote of Chris quoting Lawrence Gardner - taken from his book Project Human Extinction - The Ultimate Conspiracy, pages (pages 49-53) by Chris Thomas with David Morgan

Posted by onawah (here)
Has CT gone into any detail about the US Founding Fathers, who he claims were taken over by the Illuminati? Does he mean that Velon souls were walk-ins into the bodies of Washington, Jefferson, etc. , “possessing” them, or just that they were being heavily influenced, and if so, how? Energy implants? Why would the FF have gone to the trouble of creating the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, and fought so hard to liberate the colonies from Britian if they were Illuminati? The ideals they planted in the minds of humanity of personal sovereignty and freedoms are antithetical to the Illuminati goals, so this premise that they were taken over by the Velon doesn't make sense to me. Granted, the FF were Freemasons, but there have always been Freemasons who were genuinely idealistic, spiritually oriented souls who sought not so much to control as to guide humanity in a positive way.

Please take care & try not to embellish what has been previously written with your own thoughts & imaginings. Since you have so many questions about his material, it may be a good thing for you to purchase these books Chris Thomas has written & study this material for yourself - just a suggestion. The more books that are purchased at one time, will save on the shipping cost.

CT only states that the co-founder of the Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt a.k.a Spartacus, had a Velon entity [Velus 1] "walk-in" to his body:

"...in 1773 he [Adam Weishaupt] suffered some kind of seizure from which he died. His friend, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, knew of his friend's death and was, therefore extremely shocked when three days later Weishaupt visited him, apparently alive and well. The explanation falls into the realm of the weird, but please try to stay with us, as so many aspects of the conspiracy can be explained by what happened after the seizure Weishaupt suffered. The "seizure" had been engineered by Velus 1, once the death had been confirmed and the information relayed to Rothschild, the Velus 1 consciousness reanimated Weishaupt's body with his own consciousness and not Weishaupt's.

[With what we know today of so many reported cases of NDE's that people have had,] ..."the reanimation of Weishaulpt's body by Velus 1 is certainly possible. But what effect would this have on Rothschild in 1773? Think of how you would feel - a close friend is declared dead, is in the mortuary for three days, then suddenly comes back to life, would you not see it as some kind of miracle? However, it appears that the transformation did not stop there; at some time following this resurrection, Velus 1 let Rothschild know that it was he, and not Weishaupt, who now occupied his body, with the Velus 1 explaining that he was a "god" who was capable of doing these kinds of "miracles". When Rothschild and Weishaupt established the Illuminati in 1776, not only did they promise their fellow conspirators control of the world, they also offered immortality.

The first members of the Illuminati numbered nineteen. At the head was Velus 1 acting through Weishaupt's body, together with five Annunaki who had taken on human body forms through the usual physical birth process. Together with Rothschild, there were twelve other humans (including George Washington, whose elevation to the status of a "god" is recorded on a frieze in the Rotunda of Washington.) With one exception, these nineteen have remained the same ever since."
Project Human Extinction - The Ultimate Conspiracy (pages 151 & 152) by Chris Thomas with Dave Morgan

Posted by onawah (here)
I don't understand why the Velon want Earth. With their technology, which allows them to travel from a different galaxy, it should be easy for them to find gold elsewhere, if gold is what they really want, and without having to deal with all the complications of an inhabited planet. There is evidence that has been explored on other Avalon threads which indicates that gold is actually a very common metal in the Universe.

Here, you are getting the 'Velon Fantasy Story' mixed up with what Chris Thomas is attempting to clarify. Be careful with ingesting too much of that Zecharia Sitchin/Annuanki/Nibiru/Gold-Mining Koolaid, imo.

Posted by onawah (here)
I see that CT doesn't say that all channeled messages are from the Velon..

On the contrary, in that Robert Stanley interview, Chris Thomas has said that ALL channeled material is Velon originated… this is the first time he has come forth & said this.

turiya