What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Robert:

I wish FE could happen that fast. There are some key differences between the FE and Internet analogy. With the Internet, there were some cognitive skills needed, but the “nerds” made computers easier to use so that anybody could do it. The Internet was developed by being subsidized by the USA’s government. While there is spying, censorship, and a taking over by commercial interests (similar to how radio was originally a public good, to be totally privatized), the Internet is still a pretty public good, which is why I plan to use it like nobody has done before. But FE has been purposefully suppressed for over a hundred years by the world’s most powerful people. One was promoted, one has been suppressed.

The bigger issue, however, is integrity. People have had the opportunity to develop and use integrity since the earliest days of the human journey. If mystical material such as Michael’s is to be believed:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

or Ra’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#ra

the reason why we are here is to act without integrity (create that negative karma), and learn from the consequences of our actions (pay that karma back). There have been beacons of integrity over the millennia, and they usually became religious figures:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#infinite

In a world of scarcity, the consequences of acting with integrity can be severe (such as being nailed to a cross, or Dennis’s preposterous journey http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis), so almost nobody does it of any consequence, and because FE is a quadrillion dollar technology for starters:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

almost nobody can handle the idea of FE, much less pursue it for long before they fall off the rails in one way or another. That is why this is a conundrum.

To get this back on topic, what else becomes obsolete with FE and abundance? And this may be the entire crux of the issue: acting without integrity becomes obsolete. If the purpose of being here is acting without integrity, then making it obsolete may make the entire purpose of being here obsolete. That may seem like a silly idea, but I have regularly seen it in mystical material, I get so-called “mystical” people telling me that all the time, and when I have been involved in FE efforts myself, I have had to wonder if that was the source of resistance that everybody manifested: it would make our kill-or-be-killed world obsolete. If that is the case, then I want to live where kill-or-be-killed is not the name of the game, if there is such a place. I consider it very likely that we are in a situation where anything but kill-or-be-killed is instantly avoided because it would remove our souls’ opportunity for growth. Again, if this is the best that the Creator could come up with for growing souls, then I have many suggestions to make.

But it is also very possible that kill-or-be-killed is a transitory game that some souls (such as ours) have played for reasons that none of us Earthly personalities are aware of (oh, the joy ), and we can leave behind scarcity, kill-or-be-killed, and those other “wonderful” games. I consider this future Earth to be a real one:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672748

where anybody on Earth today can choose to incarnate into in a future life. But the ticket of admission is love. I believe that love is the energy of creation, and that we are here to learn about love, and love and FE are joined at the hip in more than one way:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

Love and fear are mutually exclusive, it seems to me, so love makes fear obsolete. Will FE and abundance make all fear obsolete, make greed obsolete, make acting without integrity obsolete? I kind of doubt it. However, today, greed, fear, and acting without integrity (AKA the dark path http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) run the show on Earth today, and those dynamics are destroying Earth’s surface, and are rapidly making it uninhabitable by complex life. So, instead of greed, fear, and evil-mindedness running the show, they will become fringe behaviors, a kind of throwback to an earlier, primitive time that are engaged in by very few, and they will not be able to secretly engage in such behaviors to the detriment of society, but when they engage in such behaviors, they will be treated for it, like a medical problem, not something to be punished.

Time to get back to writing the essay.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

I've just been sent the animation below and it's actually one of those things deeply backed in us that will go away with Free Energy. Enjoy!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cxUuU1jwMgM

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

It is a good thing that every "actor" in that cartoon had white skin!

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

The quest for Free Energy is a scam.

Why? Because it implies that there some energy that is not free... that is has a "cost". But a "cost" in exactly what?, I ask... in other energy? In circles we go.

If you consider the latest findings of quantum mechanics, then there is nothing out there but energy! Matter, as we usually think of it, is nowhere to be found.

My hand, typing this, is not actually touching the keys. It's just a buzzing energy pattern interacting with other energy patterns.

So this energy acts as if it "needs" other energy patterns in order to "grow" and "develop". Energy feeding on energy?

There is this grand illusion that I need something that I do not have access to so I need to "pay" someone, to give "it" to me...

But at a quantum level, is the one that needs stuff really separate from the one that gives? Aren't boundaries really a convenient made up thing?

The more you look, the deeper you look, your realize there is nothing but energy and a miraculous/mysterious way to perceive that energy is.

So how can energy ever be free? Or have a cost? What would you use to pay for energy if energy is all there is?

Isn't all this like being on the ocean fighting for a cup of water? Actually more like being a wave in the ocean trying to find some "free water" to pay your dues!

Do humans need energy? It seems that way.... But does Life need energy? I am not so sure... If Life continues to go on even after this energy pattern has disintegrated, then perhaps Life needs energy just as a child needs sand to build its temporary worlds out of.

So I am feeling a bit odd today, chasing this ever elusive so called "Free Energy", when in fact it seems that it was all energy to being with.

What if the chasing stopped? What if we suddenly realize we are already in an ocean of energy, and it was this chase for the "free one" that kept us from seeing this.

What if I am the free energy I've been looking for? What then?

Wouldn't that make this entire reality obsolete? Wouldn't that be "game over" for this world of sand?

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

Getting provocative today, are we? Great post, young man.

A scientist would likely not disagree that the only thing in the universe is energy, and that everything that seems to be something else is an “emergent” property of energy. My view is that there are only two things in this universe: energy and consciousness. Consciousness has been removed from consideration by kind of a sleight of hand by scientists (as consciousness made that decision!), but the greatest physicists did not buy it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#schroedinger

While a scientist (a White Scientist, that is) would agree that it is all energy, as far as we can see, there is also the idea that it is all dispersing into infinity, so energy will eventually all fall to such a dispersed level that the universe has some kind of heat death into oblivion. That is one way that White Scientists look at it, but I sure don’t. But the idea that for energy to be usable there needs to be more of it in one place than another, so that “work” can be done by taking advantage of the differential between those two energy levels, is the crux of the energy issue that scientists face.

I believe that at its root, love is the energy of creation, and that the name of the game here is to learn about love. When that accomplishment is achieved, maybe it will be game over for this reality, but maybe not. These folks live in daily love at levels that we can barely imagine here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672748

but they seem to find plenty to do, and none seem to be Level 19s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

Maybe they are not done yet, or “done” may mean graduating to higher levels of manifesting love here and elsewhere. I sure don’t have the answer, but it makes for a nice story.

The “quest” for energy security is a game that has been played on Earth since life began, and the FE quest could be seen as more of the same, but if that need was fulfilled at a level where nobody had to worry about it again, what next? I think that the fun could be in moving toward that Roads-ian world and beyond, to Level 19. I would like to see us turn the corner to where the road ahead was an exploration of fun and love, where we did not always have our toes out over the edge of the cliff.

In the big picture, I consider it very likely that Godzilla is performing a divine function here, keeping us mired in scarcity and fear until we decide to reach within and find our power and love, and not look elsewhere for it. I doubt that we will all become Level 19s overnight, but I think that the personal empowerment that comes with enlightenment has been the missing piece of all FE efforts so far. Heck, it has been missing from all human endeavors so far, so we see the games that we see and play our part in.

That you are thinking boldly about the energy issue is very good work, as that is the crux of what is happening. Who has energy, who doesn’t, and why? Those are truly the big issues on the planet right now, and the more that people grapple with the issue in their minds and hearts, the closer we will be to turning the corner.

Back to work.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Scarcity as a motivation for innovation

This post will start out as somewhat opposed to the topic of this thread, but I think it is a concept worth looking at, since it's buried really deep inside our minds.

As you may know, one of my biggest passions in life has been computer programming. And even today I marvel at the latest developments in speed and technique, and I appreciate the evolution that has happened from writing really low level machine code to almost "writing software" via a drag-and-drop interface.

The virtual explosion of processing power and storage capability has had a huge impact on the way that people write code. This also shows how higher energy availability has contributed big time to changing the paradigm in the IT world.

But now I want to look at something else..

Not so long ago the processing power and the available memory were very scarce and very expensive. Just to give you an example: today, my keyboard has a better processor and a larger memory than my first computer had.

So, because high speed CPUs were expensive and RAM (memory) was not very large, the programers had to write code in a very specific way! It was NOT enough just to solve a problem, you had to strive for the most efficient solution in terms of cycles required to get there and the amount of memory you were using.

This strong limitation has been a great source of innovation in computer science. Faster algorithms were developed and concepts like "caching" have been implemented to help speed things along.

When I have started writing code we were actually counting the bytes to make sure we did not "lose" any along the way. Today, I know very few developers who concern themselves with either speed or memory usage efficiency. Most programmers consider the memory to be infinite.

The point I am making here is that scarcity was a strong motivation to do better, to find solutions that worked around these limitations. I have recently discovered, at a deeper level still, that we are addicted to scarcity because IT WORKS! It has worked for us in the past so we assume it will work for us in the future as well! Scarcity provides a "challenge" for the mind to overcome. Scarcity provides a game to be played. When you look at it in this way there is no wonder we are addicted to it. It's all we know, and it has served us in the past.

The questions then arises: if scarcity becomes obsolete, what will drive us? if wars become obsolete (arguably the force being a most of inventions) what else will stimulate our creativity? The "text book" answer is LOVE, but what does that mean? Do we know how to do this "LOVE" thing? Does it even work? I mean.... we know scarcity works... we have a history with it, but do we know if love works? I mean really KNOW, not just read about it in some book.

I'd have to admit, that if I am to look at myself as an example, so far I have gotten the greatest satisfaction by finding ingenious solutions to scarcity related problems. The more limited the resources the higher the satisfaction! Isn't this strange? If am to be honest with myself I never do things out of "love" or "pure joy", I do them because there is a challenge, because there is a limit waiting to be worked around... So then, what would happen to me and my passion for writing code in an abundant world? Will THAT become obsolete? It's my niche carved in hell also? Am I also ready for change as long as everybody changes but me?

It's pretty rough to consider that your hard earned skills may become useless overnight in abundant society. And I have to say that I do understand those that resist it! How will software development look in a FE world? Will it still be there or it will become obsolete? And if it will go away... then what happens with my passion for it? What will I do? What shall I be?

I know there are some answers to these questions, but even so, I think these are questions that are running deep in most of us. And we need to look at them and seriously consider if we are ready for the kind of changes that an abundance paradigm would bring in our lives. Even if it may threaten our perceived "identity" and "purpose" on this planet.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

You are bringing up highly important issues. Yes, each of us will have to go deep to wrestle with them.

Devoting effort to carving out our niches in a world of scarcity has literally been the name of the game of life on Earth since the very beginning. About the only exceptions were when a new environment became available to be exploited, and then there was a “golden age” of profligate reproduction until the biome was filled under the then-current energy regime. Those never lasted long. After the Permian Extinction, for instance, there was virtually only one land animal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lystros...Early_Triassic

as the land was cleared of everything else. Then came the competition and the easy days were over, and back came the struggle for existence. Scarcity, particularly energy scarcity, as a pressure to spur life to innovate and problem-solve, has been a universal “motivator” all the way to the present day. When the lystrosaurus was the lord of Earth, or during the golden age of the hunter-gatherer when humans spread to three virgin continents with their irresistible toolset, or when Europeans conquered those very same continents and wiped out the indigenous people many thousands of years later, a glimpse of “abundance” could be briefly experienced.

The argument can definitely be made that we “need” scarcity to keep us “sharp,” and a Darwinist might agree. However, the past does not need to be the future, and I would hesitate to call scarcity an ideal state. Humans, being the social animal and allegedly “sentient” species, have already made unprecedented evolutionary changes, such as the domestication of the dog and its many varieties, from the wolf.

Can we get past scarcity, should we, and who wants to? Even during those brief “golden ages,” nothing has come remotely close to the relative abundance that industrialized civilization has enjoyed, and the pace of change and potential is truly unprecedented. What if scarcity, competition, and fear became obsolete? Would our souls stop growing, or would we find horizons that we can scarcely imagine today?

Think about what might motivate people in this world:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672748

I’ll bet that they are highly motivated, but not by scarcity. Nobody feels “lost” in that world, or useless, etc. Comparing their lives to ours might seem silly, but I think that it can be a highly useful exercise to just imagine what a day in the life of one of those people might be like (in fact, I threatened to do just that, but have yet to get around to it).

I hear you, in that if programmers see CPU speed and RAM as abundant, they may not program very efficiently. However, time will never be abundant, not in this dimension. I read, not long ago, a lesson that Bill Gates learned from Warren Buffet, if I am recalling the people accurately. The lesson was that no matter how much money you have, you cannot buy back spent time. With FE and abundance, our life expectancies will likely go way up, but even then, there will be only so many heartbeats while we are here. So, I see that wasting time would still be a “scarcity” motivator even with FE, although the pressures would be tiny compared to today. It is a great investment of the soul to incarnate a personality here, and wasting a life is not something that a soul wants to do. At higher levels of awareness, however, nothing is wasted, as all experience is valuable.

As Zoosh once said, the ideal here is about 99% light and 1% darkness, as a spur for growth. The problem here is that darkness runs the show, and it is up to all of us to solve it, if we really want to. I think that in a world of FE and abundance, people will not spend time on activities that do not bring them joy, and joy will be had in making sure that all creatures are well. I think that that will be a baseline, and when that is taken care of and maintained, what might humans focus on? What would motivate them? I submit that we can barely imagine what that might be. Imagine a world without fear. I’ll bet that there would be quite an inner and outer world to be explored by such people, and I would certainly like to give it a try. I doubt that anybody in that world knows boredom.

I truly think that if there was nothing to fear, and that nobody would need to worry about being “unemployed” or homeless or hungry, that there would be a new octave of being awaiting us. But, as you know, humanity fears the unknown, because they feel that they will “lose.” Understanding people’s fears, and the way that scarcity has shaped all aspects of our existences, is required, I think, in order to really understand what abundance means. That is part of the heavy lifting that the “choir” will need to do.

If you step back and think about this, what incredible subject matter. I sure don’t get bored, and I know that FE technology already exists on the planet. The tools to bring about that world, where we have to deal with the “problems” of abundance, are already here. It only awaits enough of us manifesting sufficient personal integrity and awareness. It should be easy, right?

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Illie, scarcity of Love is a challenge too The way i understand Love is through service to others and finding/creating ways to most efficiently and ethically provide it and take personal joy and satisfaction from providing it selflessly

Love (or service to others) requires a sacrifice of expending your personal energy. Time, matter, matter transport and transforming matter into electromagnetism directly using your body or augmenting it's force output with tools requiring energy too. Since all our personal energy must first be acquired at "a cost", such a sacrifice, in an assumed state of scarcity, is a big challenge to most of us... Leading to amplification of scarcity assumption. And stabilization of the system. A negative feedback loop.

With the advent of free energy that self limitation of Love should be easier to overcome. A positive feedback loop should become operational.

There is still going to be darkness to Lighten up even in The Free Energy World. It is an aspect of free will and it has apparently nothing to do with "outside" energy (Love) abundance. Rather it is a matter of resistance against letting sunshine inn. It is up to an individual personality to make the choice. You can always ask them to (or pray for them). Until they magically change their mind. According to some channeled material destiny of all the planets, and then all of the Universe is a state called Light and Life. Ie. everything and every creature and every personality becomes perfect. As perfect as The Creator is. Pure energy. Lots of it

But first we have some cleanup at hand down here Sorry if i traveled too far into "mysty" land...

[Ilie Pandia]

I am going through a strange period right now and I struggle with concepts like service to self and service to others.

In my view those are completely irrelevant in an abundant society. In that world everybody serves themselves and in doing so they serve the other as well. There is no distinction between the two. There are no more victims and no more messiah. Even someone like Wade would be completely out of place in that world (if he were to do what he does today).

A FE world would be totally different and the motivation behind doing anything may actually be incomprehensible to us right now. (It is at least to me).

That is my current view, but is still developing so I can't have a more "in dept" talk about it until I "sit with is" some more .

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

I respect the struggle. The ideas of service to self, service to others, karma, and the like are big, multifaceted issues. It really takes a long time to be immersed in those issues for them to begin to make sense, although the Golden Rule is the still the one that matters. Everything else is just noise:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#jesus

One way that I have seen service to others described is service to self through service to others, and I think that is a great way to view it. Karma is really just that idea that everything we do, we ultimately do to ourselves, as we are all one. We sow and reap, but it generally happens here across the stretch of lifetimes, with each life having little or no awareness of the others, so cause and effect are not always evident, and that is part of the paradox and cruelty of this plane of existence.

One karmic concept that may make this easier to understand is that of philanthropic karma. It is a karma that is positive for both people. It is a more evolved karma than kill-and-be-killed. I have no doubt that Mr. Professor and I have philanthropic karma, as we do with Dennis. I have been told, by sources that I respect, that we are all here on special assignment, and that voice leading me to both of them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3

sure makes the idea pretty clear to me, even if I will never get over Mr. Professor’s ruined and prematurely-ended life and don’t want to hear from that voice again. Mr. Professor and I are likely not done with our tasks, but will work together in future lives, and if it is on a world that already has FE and abundance, and I’ll take a lifetime or five on that Roadsy world:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post672748

then we will be building more of that philanthropic karma, which I think can be seen as service to self through service to others. And yes, I can imagine that in that world, it is not seen as karma is today in mystical circles on this planet. I think that in that world, if people really needed to channel, it would be far more loving, exalted, and enlightened than the current phenomenon that we see today, as there is so much channeling “distortion” happening through channels mired in scarcity.

If I may be so bold, I highly doubt that the standard mystical stuff that we see today would be all that relevant in that world. The mystical stuff that is on the planet today would be seen in that world as the kindergarten version. Again, I doubt that any of us can really imagine very well what life in that world is like, or what motivates them, but I think is it probably the motivation of love (for self and others), joy, and curiosity. That can sound like Peter Pan, but I think it is real. But it is far from easy to glimpse it in a world where we are constantly battered by scarcity.

No need to get a conversation going on that right now, but it will be subject matter for the choir. It will be the spiritual part of it, but, as always, the economic reality is going to come first. There are no hungry philosophers.

Best,

Wade

[Limor Wolf]

What I truly appreciate in this thread and on Wade's Healed planet one is what may not be under the definition of ' Energy', but appear to be a must for this important goal Wade is directing at in his complete totality, and that is creative thinking patterns. And this is what Ilie's posts above are about, I identify with it. If we want to move something then we need to change our observation of it, and how can it be done if we don't ask ourselves (and others) some deep meaningful questions. I bet the greatest minds of science work this way even if the final results are strictly leaning on what can be proved or measured, however, it had to start with an innovative questioning mind that wanted to pose an experiment. In order to transform our views and shift our consciousness, besides doing the regular thing we are used to do (an essential part) when learning new stuff and that is going through plenty of material someone else has wrote and thought about, is also to use it as something that will ignite our own curiocity and creativity and see where it fits with our inner 'construct', then be as flexible as possible, not be afraid to change. Ilie, you said something in your post #526 about the will to lose our 'percieved identity', that seems to be the greatest challenge we all have and may be the root of the 'Abundance fright' people have that Wade often talks about, it is the number one 'threat' that we may experience, it may not so much be the notion of the living in abundance itself, but more the need to leave the familar structure that is the current definition of ourselves, our beilieves, our perceptions, and let it all crumble, there is this inner feeling that we might cease to exist as we know ourself. to cease to exist=death. so, that is what may be delaying us from collectively moving forward , as: a) lack of curiocity b) innovative mind of our own c) a will to leave behind 'who we are', become flexible and create something new (the notion of 'death' seems to be an illusion of the mind and the ego but, in effect, is an expension of the self, a re-arrange)

The strength of this thread is that it dares to take us out of our 'structure' and pre-concived ideas of what is and move forward to 'what can' and 'what will' with all the questions and dilemmas associated with it, by this process we are creating the 'future'. time of past present and future may very well be nothing similar to what we think it is, science is unable to have any official stance on 'time' and the Egyptians or whomever tried to define it using a duodecimal system have added to our great complication as programmed human beings, now we are requested to 'throw' our 'percieved identities' and that is a very uncomfortable thing to do and is not in the horizon or vision of most people, the thing that may push us forward is the strong desire and intentions to build something new (new to us, but not so new to others) derive from our complete dissatisfaction from what there is and the explicit threat on our life here, here scarcity do play a role which sums Ilie's post above - ' Scarcity as a motivation or innovation', anyway, just wanted to say thank you Wade for doing all that already and leading us here and Ilie for continuing with the line of thought, and that what came out.

[Ilie Pandia]

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The Niche Carved in Hell

Today someone sent me a motivational article about the difference between the rich and the poor. The author made a good case that it is the difference between creators and victims: creators create their own wealth and victims just complain about their misery and how nothing works for them: they know that it does not work, even if they did not try anything!

I've just finished reading the article and I think to myself: well... he has a good point! He reminded me of Yoda's description of the victim mentality: "Always with you what cannot be done".

However something bothered me in that piece of writing. The author kept praising the system and the rich people for being the ones that create jobs and business that drive the economy, while the poor people only complain about being suppressed and not having the same opportunities. And that is true... but only up to a point...

I had to ask myself: am I now in the process of making excuses for not taking any action about my finances? Am I trying to prove him wrong and I right?

And then it occurred to me: this man is a perfect example of someone defending their niche in hell!

He is a hard working person, intelligent and motivated to take charge of his life and get out of poverty. After a few years of hard work and a long trail of failures, he had succeeded. He had carved his niche in hell and now he teaches others how to do the same.

I am not really criticizing thy guy. Actually I admire his perseverance and ability to find solutions and make it work. But what bothers me is that the process he went through, the process that he teaches others to go through, would be made obsolete in a Free Energy society. He seems now to be transforming from a "self-development nut" into a defender of the system where he makes a living. He dismisses out of had any "conpiratorial stories" or any idea that some poor people are actually taken advantage of. And he has good arguments to! But only from the point of view of his niche where the "poor people" are only those watching TV all day and making excuses and then complaining in a bar how life screwed them over.

So the solution to do well in life is simple but you need to put in the hours: work on your personal development, see yourself as responsible for your life, become a people's person, become a marketing guru, learn all the emotional triggers that you'll need to use when writing your ads and then get out there and make tons of money by using the push buttons that you have discovered most people have: sex, money, fame and self esteem issues!

The problem that I see with this is that it narrows down your "way of life" around working hard for money. You may be a science genius, but if you don't know how to market yourself, chances are you will die poor or be abused or your stuff be stolen from you.

The way I see it, is that in an abundant world this process of carving your niche in hell is completely unnecessary. Yes, you need to take responsibility for your life, you need to start acting as the creator that you are and get out of your victim mode, but don't limit yourself to the narrow band of "I have to make tons of cash, 'cause that's how this system works and once I make my ton of cash I'll defend this system to my grave 'cause it's what puts food on my table."

Once you realize that FE will make profit and marketing obsolete, it becomes clear how the process described above is a niche carved in hell that is then defended.

Having said my piece, as limited as I see it, this process does promote taking charge of your life, but you also need to keep the larger picture in view. Myself (as I assume many others) still work for money, so in that sense I am chiseling away at my own niche.

A quote from Noam Chomsky describes this best:

"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate."

Once you've carved your niche in hell you are very likely to defend it, see it as "right!", the result of good work and most importantly.... you FORGET you are still living in hell and you are very disturbed by anyone trying to remind you of that.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

Very perceptive. Yes, that is a classic instance of defending one’s niche. As you also saw, it takes a self-centered tunnel vision to do that. Scarcity encourages that kind of egocentric tunnel vision. All of the dominant scarcity-based ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

have their foot-soldiers who defend the system that feeds them. And as Chomsky says, once the parameters are set (the “framing assumptions”), like a fence around one’s mind, people then believe that they are thinking freely, when they are really imprisoned. Nobody is as thoroughly imprisoned as those who think they are free. Dennis used to say, "Put a man in a big enough cage, and he thinks he is free."

A primary way that the mind-imprisoning works is for all contrary information to be dismissed, usually by not even examining it. For the nationalist, Orwell had a great quote:

"The nationalist does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them."

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#orwell

For the capitalist and nationalist, similar atrocity denial is denying that the USA invaded Iraq to get its hands on the oil, even though it has now come out that the oil companies were clamoring to get in on the spoils.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/...y-for-oil.html

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

And the millions of people that we murdered are totally swept under the carpet, as usual:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tan#post652292

The fact that all FE pioneers are wiped out or bought out is one of those “atrocities” that capitalists will dismiss as a “conspiracy theory”:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

And, actually, every one of those dominant ideologies denies the fact of FE’s existence and suppression, because it collapses their ideology, whether it is capitalism, nationalism, scientism, rationalism, or materialism. An exception could be argued for organized religion, but FE would also collapse their ideologies, because their foundations are scarcity (only Christians go to heaven, of course). That is why I say that with FE, all of those ideologies would become obsolete.

This is an issue of paradigms:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#introduction

Once the reality of FE is admitted, and its rather obvious implications:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

all of those ideologies collapse. Of course, scarcity has been so deeply baked into human awareness that virtually everybody fights against removing it, as they have carved out their niches in hell. All of those people who refuse to admit the reality of FE and its organized suppression, or even be willing to snoop into it a little, are called ideologues. Ideologues can’t allow contrary information into their minds, or else their ideology would be threatened:

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/d...ican/ideologue

and Mark Twain remarked on that nationalist phenomenon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#twain

Of course, Twain and Orwell were both censored by the "free press":

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#twain

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#orwell

Unfortunately and ironically, the rad lefties are ideologues, too, but their ideological assumptions are more subtle. Scientism, rationalism, and materialism are seductive ideologies that have actually trapped Uncle Noam, I am sorry to say:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle

Led by Uncle Noam, structuralists of the rad left have an ideological aversion to the idea of organized suppression, dismissing it as a “conspiracy theory.”

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#conscious

Similarly, mainstream scientists dismiss FE as being “contrary to the laws of physics,” and also dismiss organized suppression as a “conspiracy theory,” and can never get out of their armchairs long enough to actually check anything out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular

So, when FE is mentioned, the knee-jerk capitalists, nationalists, and religious immediately go to Level 1 and stay there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

The more thoughtful “progressives” usually end up in Level 2:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level2

And the real “smart” ones, the rad lefties, scientists, and academics, end up in Level 3:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

and they tend to be the most dug in, as they have invested so much of their mental energy in building their houses of cards (and they live in those houses, as those houses feed them).

People can argue that conspiracists got past all of that, but not really. What they have in common with the structuralists is their victim-oriented view of the world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

It took many years of my journey, and banging on all the doors, before I could see what all of those reactions had in common: fear and scarcity. With love and abundance, those ideologies all collapse or, as I like to say, they become obsolete, which is the theme of this thread.

While I have immense respect for the hero’s path, there are not enough people on the planet today with the right stuff for that approach to work:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

Again, I am not looking for heroes, but sentient lambs who can “merely” imagine abundance in a world of scarcity, and it is far, far harder than people might think. I have almost never encountered anybody who could, as they dragged their scarcity-based, victim-oriented perspective with them. We have to let them go if we are going to get there. We can’t drag our scarcity-based baggage with us to a world of abundance. We have to think like creators, not victims, in order to make FE manifest, and creators create with love.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi Wade,

Your big picture is really huge and it's very difficult to keep in ones mind at all times.

There are so many levels of awakening and awareness. You become aware of something and you think you've got it. You think that now you see the big picture, only to realize later on that your prison got slightly larger but it's still there. I feel like I've learned so much in these last few years and yet there are days when I feel just as trapped and limited as before.

I am writing mostly about myself here as I keep getting caught and charmed back into the scarcity paradigm: "Yes, having a healed planet is a worthy goal that would benefit everyone, but until that happens you need money! And to get money you need to do this and that... no time for idle imaginings or fantasy reading! That may be useful in some future, but not now! Not in this system!". And back I go, taking my shovel, carving at my niche... "Once you have your niche carved... only THEN you can think of Free Energy and basically making obsolete everything you've worked so hard for!"

Imagining abundance, keeping it ones mind, thinking in Energy terms and trying to understand how a Free Energy world may work is really difficult to do. I did not believe it be so a few years back, but now I know it to be so after working at it.

Luckily for me, I usually remember to ask: How would this be different if Energy would not be an issue? Would I still do this? If yes, how would it work? What would others think and do? What would motivate them?

Most of the time that question brings the Free Energy perspective back!

So Wade, your posts on the forum are a necessary reminder and they are appreciated . At this point, it seems to me, that repetition in abundance thinking and imagining is required in order to dislodge and clear the scarcity conditioning.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

I am replying to your latest over here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post757866

so as to not pollute this thread with other stuff.

Best,

Wade

[Carmody]

Since I can say what i want to in this thread, with no disturbance of another thread:

What we need is not one, not two, not ten, not 20 not 100, but a few thousand Free energy warriors, who will put it all on the line, regardless of personal cost.

I'm getting to the point that I'm not as worried about weaponization of said systems/methods/understandings... as much as I used to be.

Humanity will balance it self out, it will have no choice.

All it takes to change the world for the rest of all human existence and potential, is a few thousand humans. Not millions of dead, not untold millions dying in wars, not untold millions dying from cancer and disease, not untold millions subjugated into mystery from cradle to grave..which is what we have today and for the foreseeable future...but a few thousand humans who will put it all on the line.


When this is known to be the equation, that we cannot go forward due to the lack of willingness in humans, that is always the most difficult to take. To watch these people burn themselves down, in every way, on every day, and never see it, to never see what misery they give themselves.

All for the lack of awareness and strength in a few thousand humans.

Eg, one can look at all the threads on this forum, and see it as a microcosm.

And in those threads, their very existence, their very idea of being, in them...we see the inability to understand that the one thing, FE, makes all of those mental positions and projections obsolete.

ONE thing does that, just the one single thing. It breaks all logjams, all blocks, all barriers. in it, all change and all motion is given and takes place.

Yet it sits there, untouched.

And people wonder why we have a 'secret space program' and a 'separate breakaway civilization.'

The real question is why wouldn't we?!?!?!

If one cannot make the leap, then the leap will make/create itself....and walk away from you.

Why expect anything else?

Oh yeah, that's why. The mind does not make the leap. It contains not the directive, nor the inclination.

Why is this happening? Where did humanity's genius go? It got siphoned off into that 'dark ops' hole... and the rest that remain.. are killed off.

[Wade Frazier]

Carmody:

I am sorry, but there are virtually no free energy “warriors” worth two cents. Been there, done that. Nobody wants to really hang it out there, except Dennis and the very few like him.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

People approach me with “I know a bunch of underground warriors waiting for a cause!” and other nonsense. A bunch of anonymous cowards are not going to get it done.

That is why I am doing plan B.

Best,

Wade

[Dennis Leahy]

This animated video uses the concept of "enough" to describe abundance. It seems like the word "abundance" may be one of the many words that is either "poisoned" (a word is nearly destroyed in the normal lexicon, often into deliberate Orwellian doublespeak), or carries baggage (connotations that are not accurate, but get attached anyway.) I find that when I speak of abundance, the perception is often distorted beyond "enough for all" to "gluttonous and unlimited" - like an obese American at an all you can eat buffet filling doggie bags, pockets, and purse, after eating all that could possibly be stuffed in.

This is not really "technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy" but flows from Ilie's profound and honest words.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RxPVrr44KHI

Dennis

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi Dennis,

Most (if not all) of the concepts in the video you've posted would also be rendered obsolete with the use of Free Energy.

As far as I can understand, the "indigenous life style" is a romantic myth. Human population, left to its own devices, have always wrecked nature leading to species extinctions and desertification. There was never any kind of sustainable balance between man and nature and I don't think that is even possible without Free Energy, simply because without it, man would have to live at the expense of nature.

The indigenous life style looks awesome to us, because the indigenous people have been denied access to modern technology (except for alcohol and tobacco) and the rate at witch they destroy parts of nature is invisible when compared to the rate at which we are doing it. But they do not have sustainable practices either. They also live in scarcity. They may take a few hundred years to trash a place and that looks "in balance" to them because it does not happen in their life times, while we do it in 5-10 years and so it's a bit more obvious.

The indigenous people also need energy for their life styles and without Free Energy they will wrench that out of nature. I've seen movies and read stories about them being in balance with nature, but so far history does not seem to support that with the evidence available. Where humans appeared... trouble was not long behind.

[Rocky_Shorz]

according to the blue dude, Yolanda was an engineered storm meant to kill 10s of millions pounding into Asia...

it was tempered by humans, far more powerful than any ET/Black ops technology

there is no breakaway of the gifted they are staying to heal the damage from those leaving to an off world prison...

earth is a paradise compared to where they are going, trapped in an enclosure for the rest of their lives.