How to find god in two easy steps

[Tony]

Dear Tim,

Been in other parts of the universe, and we missed one another

We move without moving…Rigpa…Rigpa expression…Rigpa display…Rigpa ornament.
First we clean off the non existent mud, from the jewel.




All the best,
Tony

[Tony]

Do karmic overlays bother me? No. They are part of the process, a reminder.
When anger arises it is merely mirror-like wisdom. The same goes for all the emotions.



Tony

[Tony]

Tsoknyi Rinpoche:

Rigpa (Emptiness) is not something that you can extend. It is something that you have to develop a habit of,
you have to train in it. In fact, what you are training in is the removal of the obscurations in order to be able
to see the rigpa which is always there.

There are two methods of doing this. One method is to get involved in creating virtue
and to set about accumulating a lot of merit.

The other method is to look directly at rigpa.

To make an example for this: I have paper and I need to cut it. To cut it I need to have a knife and then to
actually cut it. Accumulating merit is like making the knife. Continuing to accumulate merit is like continuing
to improve the knife, but not using it to cut the paper.

Using rigpa practice is like actually cutting the paper. As far as these two methods are concerned,
you could put a lot of effort into creating or furthering the tool that you already have by working on the
accumulation of merit, but in the end you have to do the practice of rigpa which is the actual cutting.





Tony

[Tony]

Hello again,
Just to clarify. This is from the Nyingma Tibetan tradition.
There are two approaches to realisation:
One is to find the view(emptiness) in the meditation- vipashana.
The other is to find the meditation in the view (emptiness)- Dzogchen.

Finding the meditation in the view is merely sustaining emptiness (Rigpa).

When directly being introduced to the nature of mind, by the pointing out
instruction, one recognises emptiness…an unstable baby emptiness, called
Rigpa essence.

This is effortlessly sustained by mere recognition.

Having gain some stability one can expand into Expression Rigpa = essence love.
Although a mere i is involved.

Then to Rigpa display- radiation!

Then Rigpa ornament - Dharmakaya complete emptiness.


There are many way to skin the non existent cat…as you can see he is happy to hold nothing!

[Shadowman]

Yes,

Hence the included ad for Spock vs Spock. Most will have observed that Audi 2 was empty as it drove off (Śūnyatā), but few will have realised that all three cars, Audi 1, Mercedes and Audi 2 (with and without driver) were all actually empty, lol.


Young Spock (Audi) = Satori or as you put it, unstable Rigpa. Samadhi with effort, still some pride/ego/seeking/racing.

Old Spock (Mercedes) = Turiya, Samadhi without effort, non-judgemental swearing/kind/relaxed/detached/victorious

Audi 2 (driver/no driver) = Turiyatita, Rigpa, Dharmakaya, Uncarved Block, Śūnyatā - fascinating!


With Love
tim

[Shadowman]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Do karmic overlays bother me? No. They are part of the process, a reminder.
When anger arises it is merely mirror-like wisdom. The same goes for all the emotions.

Tony

Yes, all that is reflected in the mirror (mind) is actually the Source/Self, from the absolute perspective. Then, when you Gno you are the eternal Self/Source, every day is a good day...

Yun Men said, "I don't ask you about before the fifteenth of the month, try to say something about after the fifteenth." Yun Men himself answered for everybody: "Every day is a good day."

The fifteenth of the month is the time of the full moon and traditionally the full moon is associated with enlightenment and clarity. So he's asking, "I don't ask you about before that time; what about after that time?" Nobody else could answer apparently, so he answered for himself, "Every day is a good day."

http://www.boundlesswayzen.org/teish...every-day.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yun-men

(The) All is well. It's all G(o)OD when you're the big dude...



http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/abide?s=t

And to those still confusing the unreal with the real, enjoy the Sins of the Father...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hIATS8b0MWA

Cheers,
tim

[Tony]

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Sounds a perfect end to the story.

[Tony]

Different approaches.

It is important to understand our individual path and temperament
(path, meaning our own created confusion about ourselves).
Once we recognise the potential for liberation, we recognise there
was nothing to be liberated from in the first place.
Then everything becomes a gesture of kindness.

Bodhisattvas have an altruistic attitude.
There are 3 paths to approach this: going before, going with and coming after.

Going before: The King - our intention is to become enlightened and come back to help others.
Going with: The Boatman - as we learn, we share and take others with us.
Coming after: The Shepherd - not attaining enlightenment until every other sentient being has also reached that stage too.

We are not all the same…you may see this differently!





Tony

[greybeard]

In duality we are seem to be different, the paths multitudinous, the ultimate "destination" is but the same.
Only "God" walks through the final door.
Chris

[skippy]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Coming after: The Shepherd - not attaining enlightenment until every other sentient being has also reached that stage too.

What a job ..

Bhagavad-gītā 7.3: "Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth."
Matthew 19:24: "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God"

[greybeard]

Posted by skippy (here)

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Coming after: The Shepherd - not attaining enlightenment until every other sentient being has also reached that stage too.

What a job ..

Bhagavad-gītā 7.3: "Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth."
Matthew 19:24: "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God"

From what I have read--its nothing to do with attaining "perfection" the Self already "is" and always was and always will be complete.
Perfection is a comparison job--in One, who or what is there to compare with?
It a demolition job--the removal of all concepts, belief systems, these are all dependent on an other.
The thought that, I know---I am the doer--- is to be discarded.
That which remains after this "work" is completed is "Self" One without a second.

Chris

[skippy]

Posted by greybeard (here)
the Self already "is" and always was and always will be complete.

Hi Chris,

Yes, Self "is" and it can be found in each and any one of us. “The kingdom of God is within you.” Luke 17:21. The first step is to recognize it; that it’s there. Many different paths can help you to get there. The second step is to step into “it”. This can only be done through a great leap of faith. What characterizes a leap of faith is the uncertainty that goes with it. Faith cannot be proven or disproved. That is why a leap of faith goes with 'fear and trembling”, it’s a jump into the unknown. Once we stepped into “it”, we 'know', but it’s a knowingness beyond the mind. The leap of faith is the act of believing in something beyond me without having empirical evidence or proof at forehand. A genuine leap of faith will not be a temporary and exchangeable choice. There will be a before and an after the jump. It will be deeply individual, without any guarantee of success.

Have a nice sunday, Marcel

[Shadowman]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Different approaches.

It is important to understand our individual path and temperament
(path, meaning our own created confusion about ourselves).
Once we recognise the potential for liberation, we recognise there
was nothing to be liberated from in the first place.
Then everything becomes a gesture of kindness.

Bodhisattvas have an altruistic attitude.
There are 3 paths to approach this: going before, going with and coming after.

Going before: The King - our intention is to become enlightened and come back to help others.
Going with: The Boatman - as we learn, we share and take others with us.
Coming after: The Shepherd - not attaining enlightenment until every other sentient being has also reached that stage too.

We are not all the same…you may see this differently!

Tony

Afternoon Tony,

Different approaches.

Yes, as I mentioned in post 39

“Votre véhicule est subtile, mon véhicule est direct non?
(Your “vehicle”/teaching is subtle/relative, my "vehicle"/teaching is direct/absolute)

But both vehicles/”cars” take the earnest seeker from the unreal to the real, which I referred to humorously (well, I certainly laughed) as going from lala land to alla land, the in joke here was that both are in fact the same, just a slight rearrangement of “perspective” ie rearrangement of letters, samsara is actually nirvana, in reality heaven and earth are not separate.

It is important to understand our individual path and temperament
(path, meaning our own created confusion about ourselves).
Once we recognise the potential for liberation, we recognise there
was nothing to be liberated from in the first place.
Then everything becomes a gesture of kindness.

Bodhisattvas have an altruistic attitude.
There are 3 paths to approach this: going before, going with and coming after.

Going before: The King - our intention is to become enlightened and come back to help others.
Going with: The Boatman - as we learn, we share and take others with us.
Coming after: The Shepherd - not attaining enlightenment until every other sentient being has also reached that stage too.

Yes, relatively, this is helpful, a metaphorical device for symbolising the stages of deepening intellectual understanding. From the direct or absolute point of view, from a Buddha’s point of view, they are metaphorical rafts, helpful for crossing the ocean of illusion, and appropriate for a certain level of seeker. He does however make allowance for those who can gno/grok the direct transmission of awakening by reminding Subhuti in the Diamond Sutra that there is no separate or relative “I” that liberates, and no “they” who are liberated....

"Good Subhuti," answered the Buddha, "whenever someone announces, "I want to follow the Bodhisattva Path because I want to save all sentient beings; and it does not matter whether they are creatures which are formed in a womb or hatched from an egg; whether their life cycles are as observable as those of garden worms, insects and butterflies; or whether they appear as miraculously as mushrooms or gods; or whether they are capable of profound thoughts or of no thoughts at all, for I vow to lead every individual being to Nirvana; and not until they are all safely there will I reap my reward and enter Nirvana!" then, Subhuti, you should remind such a vow-taker that even if such uncountable numbers of beings were so liberated, in reality no beings would have been liberated. A Bodhisattva does not cling to the illusion of separate individuality or ego-entity or personal identification. In reality, there is no "I" who liberates and no "they" who are liberated.” - Diamond Sutra

We are not all the same…you may see this differently!

We are exactly the same/Self. Only the reflections of the moon in the rippled (disturbed) lake (mind) appear separate. One who is truly awakened does not cling to egoic points of view or relative perspectives. The differences are unreal, only the Self, which is whole(y) and undivided is real.

It can be difficult to encounter a Buddha, as referred to by Buddha in the Mahaparinirvana Sutra, but like the chinese character for crisis it is both a danger and an opportunity. It is a danger to your ego, but an opportunity to awaken to the reality of who you really are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese...r_%22crisis%22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayan...inirvana_Sutra

The direct gnosis/realisation alone of Nirvana/Brahman/Heaven is paramount in “seeing” this. Intellectual or conceptual understanding is only useful to develop the faith necessary to take on the extraordinary challenge of stilling the mind.

Then, one gnows, the Self evident Truth, you are not, nor have you ever been, the reflection, in any of it’s myriad forms, you are, and will always BE, the eternal Source/Self,

The secret, Chiang says, is to "begin by knowing that you have already arrived."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonatha...ngston_Seagull

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Evht41pyNGU

Namaste
tim



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Posted by greybeard (here)
In duality we are seem to be different, the paths multitudinous, the ultimate "destination" is but the same.
Only "God" walks through the final door.
Chris

Exactly Chris

Namaste
tim

[markpierre]

Here's another coupla easy steps.
1. Take note of your hands and your feet.
2. Decide for yourself what you'd like to use them for.

[Shadowman]

Posted by greybeard (here)

Posted by skippy (here)

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Coming after: The Shepherd - not attaining enlightenment until every other sentient being has also reached that stage too.

What a job ..

Bhagavad-gītā 7.3: "Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth."
Matthew 19:24: "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God"

From what I have read--its nothing to do with attaining "perfection" the Self already "is" and always was and always will be complete.
Perfection is a comparison job--in One, who or what is there to compare with?
It a demolition job--the removal of all concepts, belief systems, these are all dependent on an other.
The thought that, I know---I am the doer--- is to be discarded.
That which remains after this "work" is completed is "Self" One without a second.

Chris

Excellent Chris.

Sublime.

With Love
tim

[Shadowman]

Posted by skippy (here)

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Coming after: The Shepherd - not attaining enlightenment until every other sentient being has also reached that stage too.

What a job ..

Bhagavad-gītā 7.3: "Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth."
Matthew 19:24: "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God"

Indeed Skippy,

But what an outcome...

Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone altogether beyond, O what an awakening, all-hail !

Thankyou for your welcome insights,

In Lak'ech
tim

[Tony]

Dear Tim,
Merci pour votre translation. Je suis tres content d'aller...moment by moment.

Tai Situpa (one of the four regents to the Karmapa) said (and I was there when he said it),
“May I progress 1% each lifetime, so that in a 100 incarnations I shall be enlightened.”

Well, if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

My Mum said I'd never amount to anything...

Tony

[Shadowman]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Dear Tim,
Merci pour votre translation. Je suis tres content d'aller...moment by moment.

Tai Situpa (one of the four regents to the Karmapa) said (and I was there when he said it),
“May I progress 1% each lifetime, so that in a 100 incarnations I shall be enlightened.”

Well, if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

My Mum said I'd never amount to anything...

Tony

Evening Tony,

Perhaps it isn't about becoming, but about being.....

"And it's ever-present everywhere
And it's ever-present everywhere
That warm love"....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0kl_CIiQXVs

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post760053

With (Warm) Love,
tim

[Grizz Griswold]

Posted by tim (here)
Just stop doing this...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HEIVqiMR5EY

and stop doing this also OK...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2O15DXv3Vwg

That pretty much covers it,

Namaste/With Love,
tim




PS No it wasn't a typo, I meant god, dog would be getting it backwards. Unless you are a dog, in which case god would most likely be a dog, but then you probably wouldn't be reading this...

woof (just in case)

...who knows god may even be a chicken...



cluck cluck (best to be safe)

You can't keep a good dog, god, chicken er cat down.
Be nice to see this wonderful tread back up front a while.

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Namaste.....barry