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    As to the veracity of this thread..

    Understandable then why when folks initially 'wake-up' to the conditioning of our societal constructs and personal perceptions that they may very well default to: Trust no one/nothing and keep your intuition laser focussed at all times..

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    And according to that book that Paul recommended his name is an anagram....well it is an anagram for Amen Ra is back BHO USA. I understand he had his name changed in British Columbia. This ties in with all the Sirius business surrounding 9/11 and the Egyptian New Year.

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    And according to that book that Paul recommended his name is an anagram....well it is an anagram for Amen Ra is back BHO USA. I understand he had his name changed in British Columbia. This ties in with all the Sirius business surrounding 9/11 and the Egyptian New Year.
    What is BHO?

    Playing the anagram game also produces the following less American-biased result:
    Abba's human race is OK
    (where Abba is a name for God).


    Granted, there is a Satanic version wherein OK becomes KO: but that is definitely not okay, because Abba reverses, not to Satan, but to Abba.
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    Barack Hussein Obama is BHO

    I haven't heard "Abba" before...something missing in my education.
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    Quote Posted by heretogrow (here)
    I apologize upfront and have to tell everyone that I have not had time yet to read the responses from page five to eight. I hope to do that now. However there is something about Obama that has haunted me from the first time I became entranced by him. I am going to put this out here as crazy as it seems because maybe some of you had the same experiences of have felt the same way. if this has been postulated in the pages I have missed then I apologize in advance.

    For me the strangest and most compelling thing about Obama has been, above and beyond the hypnotic qualities of his speeches, the second I tuned into him, I felt a familiarity like I had known him from before. Did anyone else experience that? Now as we are further unto the agenda I wonder if we were not implanted with a memory of him in order for all of this to take place. Really it has been uncanny for me. I have felt so connected to him that I have sought to give him hell and call him out on all of the unconstitutional laws of late. There is a very real familiarity of this man and I do not think this familiarity is natural. I believe we have been genetically implanted to accept what he has to offer. I believe the real challenge is acknowledging this and seeing it for what it is, a manipulation, whether via timeline of genetic, and start thinking for ourselves and realizing that this is the point in history where freedoms will slip away never to be reinstated in many lifetimes. I am asking you, dear friends, does anyone else feel like the familiarity level of this is off the charts with this guy? If so how far have we been manipulated and how do we take back the reins of our future???
    What about inner discrimination? Treat everything he (and others) say as if it were channeled information! You can do that. Don't trust anyone - even if they are smooth talkers - until they have earned it, and that may be never.
    -- Let the truth be known by all, let the whole truth be known by all, let nothing but the truth be known by all --

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Well, as far as all actual ancient Sumerian language experts state, and these are people from all over the world, Sitchin was not qualified to make any translations at all and the biggest part of his books came straight out of his imagination.
    Which I qualified here:

    Quote Well, Stichen got some of it right, and other things he extrapolated and biased based on his subjectivity.
    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    So, as far as I have investigated, Sitchin's books are at least 90% fabricated, with no real substance at all.
    Which I qualified here:

    Quote Therefore, his interpretations are subject to additional verification from other sources in order to triangulate a postulate which has a high enough percent probability to be considered as a variable for a more collated and synthesized context.
    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Feel free to believe that Sitchin was more correct than the Sumerian dictionaries themselves, though...
    Where did I say Stichen was more correct than the Sumerian Dictionaries? Look Raf, it’s a slow Saturday and if you want to “have a go” at me, that’s fine. You would just need to do better than that and actually find a point in which there was an error, discrepancy, or point of view you disagreed with.
    I'm responding to grip's comment, not to single him out, but to help clarify a terrible injustice that appears to be shared by [some of] the members.

    Zecharia Sitchin was a pioneer into a little known part of Human History. It is true, he didn't get everything correct, however, as researchers from renowned universities such as Oxford University, The University of Pennsylvania, and others have been decoding the Sumerian Cuneiform Cylinder Seals, over the past one hundred years, they are producing text that very much resembles what Sitchin reported.

    Sitchin gleaned much of his interpretations from text found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Atrahasis, and The Enûma Eliš. All of these documents have been scrutinized by the most learned Sumerian scholars, and any one of us can also read those documents. The stories one would find very much resemble what Sitchin reported.

    Anyone wishing to learn more about what the Anunnaki were, and how they have controlled this particular reality - right up to the present day - should spend some time researching Gerald Clark's work.

    This thread is about "who Obama really is". If one looks closely at who the Anunnaki are, one quickly discovers that no one becomes King unless he is given the keys to the palace.

    Research Resources:

    The Anunnaki On Nibiru With Gerald Clark - Beyond Ordinary News -
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=o8tYYkhU8gU
    (move timer over to 36min.:25sec.)

    The Atra-Hasis -
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atra-Hasis

    Epic of Gilgamesh -
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh

    The Enûma Eliš -
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enuma_Elish

    Contrary to what some of the members believe, none of these documents were "planted" in the deserts of Iraq and Iran by some group of extra-dimensional time-traveling extraterrestrials.

    If one were to spend the time and research the links that can be found here, one would quickly realize the phenomenon known as 'implanted telepathic thought' is an electromagnetic technology that dates back to the Dawn of Man here on this planet, and is now a technology used by the Global Elite.

    I now return the thread to the topic (although I never really diverged from that theme).

    Link to other comments in this thread -
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post758630
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    Quote Posted by heretogrow (here)
    I apologize upfront and have to tell everyone that I have not had time yet to read the responses from page five to eight. I hope to do that now. However there is something about Obama that has haunted me from the first time I became entranced by him. I am going to put this out here as crazy as it seems because maybe some of you had the same experiences of have felt the same way. if this has been postulated in the pages I have missed then I apologize in advance.

    For me the strangest and most compelling thing about Obama has been, above and beyond the hypnotic qualities of his speeches, the second I tuned into him, I felt a familiarity like I had known him from before. Did anyone else experience that? Now as we are further unto the agenda I wonder if we were not implanted with a memory of him in order for all of this to take place. Really it has been uncanny for me. I have felt so connected to him that I have sought to give him hell and call him out on all of the unconstitutional laws of late. There is a very real familiarity of this man and I do not think this familiarity is natural. I believe we have been genetically implanted to accept what he has to offer. I believe the real challenge is acknowledging this and seeing it for what it is, a manipulation, whether via timeline of genetic, and start thinking for ourselves and realizing that this is the point in history where freedoms will slip away never to be reinstated in many lifetimes. I am asking you, dear friends, does anyone else feel like the familiarity level of this is off the charts with this guy? If so how far have we been manipulated and how do we take back the reins of our future???
    Those speeches were in a sense a form of conditioning and mind control propaganda tactics, now many are realizing the extent of the lies and deception involved in them, and then there are many who don't even remember them and are drunk with illusion, holding on to their Obama phones like they are bars of gold.

    Cult of personality

    Apotheosis

    Political religion
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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

    Quote DISASTER CAPITALISM
    A Neoliberal catalyst towards further vulnerability
    http://www.academia.edu/1159959/DISA..._vulnerability
    Yes. This would be more accurate, indeed.

    Sorry guys. With all due respect, you have received a very poor and biased sociological education...

    Giving freebies to poor people is not Socialism; It's populism. Acquiring near to bankrupted companies just for the sake of stabilizing the market is not Socialism as well, it's a just a Neo-Liberal Capitalist measure.

    Have in mind that, by any means, I'm defending Socialism. I'm just trying to avoid crude misconceptions here.

    Private corporations are clearly in charge of the USA. If Obama was trying to implement a socialist system, even it was a fascist one, the Estate would be in charge of the country, not private owned companies. That'a a fact.

    For all I know, Obama works for private owned companies, which are the same which financed his campaign. This is exactly opposed to Socialism.

    He's been socializing the debts and privatizing the profits. This is not Socialism at all. It's just the opposite.

    This is plain and simple Capitalist Corporatocracy. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Raf.
    Just been reading this thread and I have to say that RMorgan, I always find your posts to be some of the best and most informed post on Avalon. They are also consistently level-headed and correct.

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    Jeff Rense & Mia Pope - Shocking Obama Revelations Pt 2

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    Quote Posted by addsub (here)
    The same can be applied to today's political situation...it really doesn't matter who is President or which laws are passed. The Federal Reserve dictates the control and flow of money. Corporations benefit from the funds created, as evidenced by the stock markets. There is a measured pace in transferring control from the people to the corporations, governments and various cartels. This transference is happening faster than the upliftment of the masses. Without Earth changes, people would lose any hope of reestablishing control over their own lives. For a short period, a loss of control over everyday activities is inevitable...NOT a desired outcome, but we're stuck with a very disruptive transition from the Obamas, Bushes and Clintons of the world to whatever shall follow.
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    1. Massive upgrade of consciousness (divine intervention)
    2. Big earth changes (dismantling of the control structures)
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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

    Quote DISASTER CAPITALISM
    A Neoliberal catalyst towards further vulnerability
    http://www.academia.edu/1159959/DISA..._vulnerability
    Yes. This would be more accurate, indeed.

    Sorry guys. With all due respect, you have received a very poor and biased sociological education...

    Giving freebies to poor people is not Socialism; It's populism. Acquiring near to bankrupted companies just for the sake of stabilizing the market is not Socialism as well, it's a just a Neo-Liberal Capitalist measure.

    Have in mind that, by any means, I'm defending Socialism. I'm just trying to avoid crude misconceptions here.

    Private corporations are clearly in charge of the USA. If Obama was trying to implement a socialist system, even it was a fascist one, the Estate would be in charge of the country, not private owned companies. That'a a fact.

    For all I know, Obama works for private owned companies, which are the same which financed his campaign. This is exactly opposed to Socialism.

    He's been socializing the debts and privatizing the profits. This is not Socialism at all. It's just the opposite.

    This is plain and simple Capitalist Corporatocracy. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Raf.
    Ah and I am sure your sociological education is far superior to us all. Love the little insults.

    You are probably right that Obama is no more of a socialist and Marxist than just about every president we have had since TR. His rhetoric is a bit more socialistic, you didn't build that sort of bull****, but overall he is not any more socialist than the rest. It appears to me his playbook is taken right out of Communist Manifesto though.

    "The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state, i.e., of the proletariat organized as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.

    Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionizing the mode of production."

    But I guess my education is too poor to understand it. What I really don't understand about your superior education is WHERE DO YOU SEE CAPITALISM IN AMERICA? You just have a really poor understanding of Capitalism.

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    at my most recent job, my boss played for everyone, obamas "fired up" speech. i was the only one not completely eating it up.

    hes so contrived, i hope its going to be as easy to impeach him since the grounds to impeach holder are so much less in comparison.

    how do we do the next step i wonder. councils instead of government?
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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Observing him as a person is a complete distraction, it was designed and planned (VERY WELL PLANNED) to be this way. While every one is arguing and debating if he's an alien, anti-christ, an American citizen, Muslim or Christian, gay or straight, etc. etc etc, or even if he's black or white, is basically just a strategy to pull a whole nation down a rabbit hole of nonsense while they move forward with their shift of greed and destruction, enslavement and control. This is really actually genius and IMO, well thought out. They have pretty much left no stone unturned and made it about impossible to come to any verifiable and solid conclusions about the guy. He's basically just an invention of someones imagination, created out of thin air.
    I would not be surprised to learn that Obama the human has been replaced by Obama the clone. The 'powers that be' appear to have that capability.

    Whichever is the case, puppets are always expendable, as are the banksters and illuminati who manipulate humanity. The plan may be to get rid of them all when they are no longer useful. If the NWO and a new religion is established that incorrectly portrays ETs as our saviors, why would the non-human 'powers that be' let any human manipulator live who may later offer a first hand story that contrasts with the official story of a new religion?
    Who do you think he's a clone of? Akehnaten? freeman thinks so, I wonder myself sometimes

    Also, do you think that this new religion could possibly be a political religion? perhaps a forced ideology to worship the NWO system itself as God?

    Just curious about your thoughts in these directions.
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    Regardless of who Obama was or how he got to be President, as President he's one lost human being. He probably doesn't know a fascist from a communist, a socialist from a capitalist and certainly wouldn't promote one over another. The fellow is a consensus builder not a leader. He's not the one who will say "my way or the highway". In the political world of "winning is everything", he's a football coach telling everyone that it doesn't matter who wins it's "how the game it played." He wants everyone to go home happy.

    Whoever or whatever prepared him for the job, Obama was set up to fail. Politics is not in his nature. Through his polished incompetence we have chaos. Nothing is getting done. Power is used indiscriminately. In Congress, energy is wasted in anger by those who are accustomed to winning/losing patterns.

    Remember the phrase "order out of chaos?" I'm very leery of who will come next to offer up their services as President and am watching carefully who is funding them.

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    My perspective on this topic has been stated numerous times in the past 3 years. Controller manipulation, MKUltra, I agree with most here about what type of programming Obama has undergone. But, as I continue to contend, there are other issues as well that are at play. In the current discussion, I find the following aspect most fascinating as it corresponds to some of my most recent research in DNA and genetics.

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)

    Maybe it's a bloodline thing Bill. Maybe they found, in Barry Soetoro, some strand of rare, ancient, mystical bloodline that traces its way back to god knows who and where. 'They' - TPTB - love this sort of thing. Some sociopathic, megalomaniac figure from ancient history. Perhaps his (Obama's) was even a planned conception from the beginning, his parents brought together for this express purpose. Thus he was known, watched, and nurtured every step of the way, from childhood, to adulthood, knowing that one day he would be the perfect puppet - a black one too, serving a different agenda - and with all the perfect attributes. Who knows.
    I would agree, Star Mariner. Emphatically. A couple of points:

    Last of the Amarna Pharaohs: King Tut and His Relatives
    http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf

    Quote Average MLI scores in Table 1 indicate the STR profiles of the Amarna mummies would be most frequent in present day populations of several African regions: including the Southern African (average MLI 326.94), African Great Lakes (average MLI 323.76), and Tropical West African (average MLI 83.74) regions. These regional matches do not necessarily indicate an exclusively African ancestry for the Amarna pharaonic family. However, results indicate these ancient individuals inherited some alleles that today are more frequent in populations of Africa than in other parts of the world (such as D18S51=19 and D21S11=34).

    Table 1: Top MLI (Match Likelihood Index) scores for Amarna mummies based on the world
    regions identified by DNA Tribes® STR analysis. Each MLI score identifies the likelihood of
    occurrence of an STR profile in that region versus the likelihood of occurrence in the world as a
    whole.

    The Akhenaton Dynasty's roots were indeed African and, therefore, Black-oriented, despite the mainstream media and many, many, many others insistence upon the Pharaonic Dynasties being European-oriented and Caucasian in nature. The evidence for that becomes more and more flimsy and evident of wishful thinking and willful ignorance by the hour. Whether Obama's father was Malcolm X, the Kenyan or the Black American philanderer, part of his roots do go back to Africa, the same as the Pharaohs in question. In support of the more general point and also indicative of where we currently are, why the world is the way it is, and what ancient dramas are playing out now, more DNA evidence is available:

    Modern Mixed Populations in the Context of World Genetic Structure (SNP)
    http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2013-09-01.pdf

    Quote Modern African-Americans are descended from a mixture of Sub-Saharan African (primarily West African; average 73.8%) and West Eurasian (primarily Northwest European; average 7.9%) populations that has taken place since the colonial period, with additional Native American (primarily Mesoamerican; average 2.9%) ancestral components. However, similar but more ancient mixture between African and West Eurasian populations (primarily via Eastern Africa, Northern Africa, and the Middle East) have also taken place prior to the modern period.
    Quote In this ancient genetic continuum between Africa and West Eurasia, sampled African-American individuals are most similar to sampled individuals from the Nilotic and Horn of Africa regions. This is because the recent mixture between West African and Northwest European populations that has taken place in North America since the colonial period is genetically similar to more ancient patterns of mixture near Eastern and Northern Africa.

    Figure 2: MDS plot of randomly sampled African-Americans and individuals from
    African and West Eurasian regions. Native regions that are most similar to modern
    African-Americans are circled in red.

    My conclusions, based upon this evidence and knowing the long-ranging plans and machinations of the elite factions, as well as being able to intuit and energetically "read" current world events and situations based upon my own research and knowledge, are that the Illuminati forces are attempting to "hijack" destiny, to use Obama and his genetic potential in order to forestall their own reckoning. Given the state of the world today, White Supremacy as a global system of command and control is done. Over. Finito. That is as it should be, as these days, the world is rising against it in a tide that cannot be overcome by any but psychopathic, genocidal means.

    If they cannot continue to control the planet under the guise of White Supremacy, they intend to destroy it. Make it uninhabitable by those who would continue to coexist here in a new way of being and interaction with the planet. In the context of Obama, his genetic structure does mirror those of ancient Egypt, while those of Black Americans in general do as well, being extraordinarily similar to that ancient peoples by way of West, Central and Southern Africans in the days of the Pharaonic Dynasties. DNATribes has other articles that support this. The key aspect of this, is that Obama also has ties to these same controller factions, as evidenced by the genealogical research that has been shown to tie him to the royal families of Europe, as he has been found to be related to Cheney and also Dubya going back some generations.

    So they think that this insertion of their DNA into the line makes them able to control him. And, so far, they have been right, to a large extent. By so doing, they also seek to control the outcome of this ponderous rise of the "3rd World", and their efforts are geared toward preserving their power, continuing to consolidate their own economic and political hegemony through military means, thereby insulating themselves both physically and socially from the inevitable crash of the world system and the institution of newer, and more equitable ways of governance and living.

    We are all quite aware of their fascination and understanding of genetics, their seemingly fanatical insistence upon keeping their bloodlines pure. And despite the common and biased belief that mixed blood leads to impurity, their deeper understanding of bloodlines and how their mixture can lead to the actual, physical incarnation of specific genetic families, shows the depth of their understanding of how these ancient passion plays can best be reenacted in the modern world.

    We are also well aware of the origins of these bloodlines, and their ties to these ancient kingdoms of Mesopotamia and, also, Egypt. The revelation that these Dynasties and bloodlines were, indeed, of African origins is actually quite revolutionary and will cause some to squirm in discomfort at the very thought as well as the inevitable conclusion that these self-same issues that were so dominant so long ago have continued to be of importance to this very day.

    That the controllers know this and have always known it places the continuing subjugation of Africans in general and Black Americans in particular in a new light. It reveals the baseline resonance of their fear and explains why so much time and effort has been spent in assaying the continuance of structural mechanisms designed to foment the absolute control of those who seem to be at the very bottom of the world hierarchy of racial lineage.

    That Obama has been placed in the position he is in, is undeniable proof of their recognition of this.
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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    from Bills post #125

    Quote I should clarify my stance, which is non-negotiable, rock solid, and crystal clear: that the NWO plans are evil, being implemented by evil people (and/or beings).

    They do not have the best interests of humanity at heart. They are serving something else.

    I profoundly disagree with your stance, and although I know you believe what you are saying, and I respect your courage in telling your truth, I feel that you are just as profoundly incorrect and I strongly suspect you have been misled by others who wish you to be a promoter of an evil agenda. And I write those words knowing exactly what they mean.

    In my opinion, you are inadvertently doing the cause for human freedom a huge disservice. It is a significant personal frustration for me that you cannot seem to see this.

    I do believe you are well-intentioned: but in your words and vectors you promote, you might as well not be.


    Bill, I will have to say I am having extreme deja’ vue right now and am very upset.

    I was an evangelist’s (preacher) wife for 16 long years and the church we belonged was very legalistic and dogmatic. I worked hard at being the best minister’s wife possible by following the legalistic expectations every step of the way. This particular version of Christianity is huge on bible study to the point of understanding the books of the ‘bible’ from the original Greek and Hebrew.

    The more I studied the ‘bible’ and what I was expected to teach and espouse and how I was to live my life (from the church’s dogma) I became profoundly troubled, because what I understood after all those years of personal study and application in my personal life and what this church and my evangelist husband wanted me to believe and do, simply did not match up. I found that I could not in any way support what my husband was teaching from the pulpit and what the church as a whole believed and promoted.

    I found myself in a huge quandary. At this point in my marriage I had 2 small children and although I am college educated I had worked outside the home very little. I was young and scared, but could not come to terms with the lies and misery that was foundationally being taught and not only in this church but in the Christian Religion as a whole.

    I began testing the waters with questions based soundly from scripture during bible studies at the church. I began asking questions and putting forth what was deemed by the leadership as disruptive and unsubmissive..

    My questions and understanding were exactly what is brought out right in this forum . . . the flat out misconception of what the bible is and how Christianity was formed and why it has been so promoted over the centuries. I found ‘like minds’ in the alternative world when it came to the truth of organized religion.

    Even though my questions and point of view could not be disproved or refuted I was told to cease my questioning and speaking my point of view.

    I was brought before the elders of the church several times and made to be prayed over and chastised and bullied.

    I was told over and over I was wrong . . . that I had been deceived by the devil and that I needed to repent and ask forgiveness for my sinful unsubmissive feminist ways. I was told I could no longer speak in the church or ask any more questions or make comments that were not in line with their and the churchs ‘truth’ and that I was being destructive to the congregation.


    Now I find myself in the exact same place with the alternative world and with this forum and with you.


    I know what I am saying is in direct opposition with the alternative worlds beliefs as a whole and what I am saying is as uncomfortable to most as my questions and comments were to the church.

    So what Bill would you have me do?

    You are saying much as the elders and my preacher husband said . . . .that I have been deceived by someone or something with an evil agenda to cause me to have these contrary points of view and beliefs . . . that just like the church I am harmful and a disservice to the forum and the alternative world.

    I am sitting here in total disbelief that I find myself in the exact same place.

    So you tell me Bill and the other perceived leaders of this forum . . . . am I being disfellowshipped and/or shunned and/or told to keep my mouth shut.

    Am I to believe that again I am being deceived and duped by the ‘evil ones’ . . . .

    Where do I go now? What do I do now?

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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    Quote Posted by blufire (here)

    If ‘they’ truly wanted to simply eliminate millions or even billions of people worldwide then they would STOP advancing medicine that keeps people alive for longer than ever before and especially people in 3rd world countries that are ravaged by complicated ruthless diseases or how about global hunger? I know this is a huge sore topic for most on Avalon but if it weren’t for gmo grains billions in third world countries would be dead. Remember the massive starvation of the 60’s and 70’s? This has nearly been eliminated.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65473-Who-really-is-Barack-Obama-THIS-APPEARS-TO-BE-THE-TRUTH.&p=758780&viewfull=1#post758780

    Quote That's the propaganda... the reality is pure psychopathic behavior: harm, maim or kill under the guise of "Let me help you..." :



    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

    Case 22A-B-C-D Hot Sodas Courtesy of Those... ?


    In 1937, a chemist in immunology studies, Walther Goebel, at Rockefeller University reports on the urine analysis of dogs fed benzoic acid;

    “When benzoic acid is ingested by dogs, it is excreted in the urine
    partly in the form of hippuric acid and partly as a benzoyl ester
    of glucuronic acid. The detoxication of aromatic [=benzene related] organic acids by conjugation with glucuronic acid is one of the important physiological mechanisms of man and certain animals.” http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/122/3/649.pdf

    Clearly, this Rockefeller scientist believes that benzoic acid is toxic and has to be detoxified by the animal.

    In 1943, another scientist at Rockefeller University writes a report on p-amino benzoic acid (PABA), citing that in very low doses it prevents sulfa antibiotics from working. At the time, sulfa drugs were the only antibiotics other than penicillin which was not yet in use. The scientist states that it has been shown to prevent sulfa drugs from inhibiting the growth of a strain of Clostridia. Yes, this is the same PABA chemical that was put in sunscreens.

    [...]

    Clearly, the utility of doing that study during the war was to figure out how to prevent the treatment of gas gangrene due to war wounds.

    “one molecule of p-aminobenzoic acid antagonized 23,000 molecules of sulfanilamide” www.jem.org/cgi/reprint/78/4/255.pdf

    [...]

    When I thought about the US troop’s sodas sitting in the sun, I wondered what the petrochemicals turned into in the heat. I figured that the writer of that CIA internal memo might know. The writer, on investigation, turned out to be a microbiologist at the US Army’s Chemical and Biological Warfare Labs at Fort Detrick Maryland. I called him up and told him that I would like to meet with him over a cup of coffee. He agreed and we set a time and place.

    [...]

    In response to my questions he admitted that the water being used in Iraq was to his knowledge not the problem. He said that he wrote the memo because benzoic acid was being added to the sodas and was the “petrochemical derivative” that was of concern. He said that it was a very useful chemical to fed populations in war zones because its heat caused metabolites which increased their risk of dying from wounds and dysentery. I asked him, if that is the case, then why was it being used in sodas given the troops. He looked at me that I was dense or naive. He said, “It is there to decrease VA hospital bills.” I said, “But that is absurd.” He said, “No, think about it. If a soldier is healthy, not much happens when he drinks the sodas. But if he gets seriously wounded then he is likely to get a wound infection. Then he will die from it and not be a long term burden on the VA with an amputated leg, say.”

    [...]

    ... You can go into an area where people are dying from dysentery and give them sodas and look like a hero. You know what the standard treatment for dysentery is now? Sodas. People consider them “safe” to drink beverages because they are sterile. Orange based sodas have the potassium in them that is needed to help replace the electrolytes. All you change is whether you heat them first as to whether you supply them to harm or help. It was truly a brilliant idea. We are really changing how we do things at the Lab. The people in the hot climates are overpopulating the world--now we can combat that effortlessly. People with AIDS in Africa, India, etc. just need a little help over the edge. We are giving them that help.”

    [...]

    What that “Final Solution” researcher had told me was that in the heat the Benzoate/Benzoic Acid turned into not just benzene but PABA (para-amino benzoic acid). There is some amino acids in the beverages, at least in ones with plant extracts in them. He said furthermore, some of it turns into PABA inside the human body where there are lots of amino acids and moderate heat as well. He said that the bacteria just need trace amounts of it to grow like a rocket. I said, I did not see how bacteria could grow on a crude oil slick. He said, “They can’t. But many of them grow better than ever before, when small amounts of oil is added to a lake. He said, look at all those contaminated lakes up near Detroit; people just changed their car oil and let the oil seep into the ground, or just a few drops of oil from their outboard motors got into the water. Bingo, the water is full of nasty bacteria.” He continued, “That is why the water is not drinkable in the US anymore, because it takes so little pollution by oil to make the bacteria take it over. I played skeptical and asked him to send me a paper on it. He did. I read it in some detail.

    The paper was about a small town in Africa during an epidemic of cholera. Some inhabitants were given the pre-heated sodas and some were not. The town’s people were not told that they were being studied for how well they could be killed off! Both putting the benzoate in the sodas and the study were unethical in my opinion. The town folk believed that the researcher and his staff were there to help them. The mortality was 40% higher in the group given the heat treated sodas. This was not a town with a particularly high AIDS rate. Less than 10% of the people were HIV positive. The study had tested people for HIV. Those who had AIDS and cholera had a high incidence of death, about 80%, if they drank the heat treated sodas. Their mortality if they came down with cholera was high anyway, about 50%. Those with just cholera and regular sodas had less than a 2% death rate.

    From Sue Arrigo's case 22B.


    Innocuous sunscreens and cosmetics to interact with laced vaccines and water from the "poisonned wells"... and there is the loaded gun held at the head of the female of the species of "useless eaters."


    “Depopulation should be the highest priority of US foreign policy towards the Third World….”. Henry Kissinger National Security Memorandum (NSSM 200) early 1970’s

    This post resonated with me so much - thank you Amzer Zo - it vindicates years of suspicions and strikes a chord on humanity in these vile times
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    Well, the alternative narrative, context and scenario, which is corroborated by history, suggests that a group of off world interlopers descended upon this planet and altered the DNA of the indigenous species for their own nefarious reasons, and are now reaping the results of that manipulation and find it necessary to alter the genome again in order to maintain that agenda.

    All of our institutions: government, religious, education, media, finance and corporate production is designed for the benefit of these few psychopathic interlopers at the behest of the 7 billion sentient empathic hybridized beings on planet earth. The current structure of control can be back engineered thousands of years and corroborated by history.

    Where you and I disagree, is whether these beings are benevolent or malevolent in their intent. I am leaning towards a nefarious viewpoint based on all of the available evidence. My added subjectivity is not corroborated with alien childhood visitations, but what is available historically and what is available based on what these elite are doing.

    What these elite are doing goes against nature and goes against the current genome. This is fact, not a subjective interpretation.
    You always bring the noise, Grip, and I appreciate that. And also appreciate these statements, which I agree with in toto.

    To delve into those extraterrestrial realms since it is "out there" in the thread, and to go beyond the mundane understanding of even genetics and sociological evolution, the star ancestry of the many world populations, having been manipulated so extensively in the distant past, has resulted in a potpourri of distinct ethnic populations, which we call racial, even though there is only one human race, and many ethnicities of varying colorations. Neanderthal, Denovian, the unknown Neanderthal "cousin" that existed only in Africa and whose DNA imprint is present only in those from certain sectors of West and Central Africa, as well as the other early humans that predate Homo Sapiens and Homo Sapiens Sapiens, attest to the fact that our differences are the result of a continuous and ongoing coalescence of the genetic lines of distinct precursors to modern humanity that may indeed have been brought from other spaces and places, but who have found themselves here in order to continue this "grand experiment" of a universal nature, resulting in a unique and extraordinary evolution of human nature that is quite probably not repeatable anywhere else in this galaxy.

    It is ancient African wisdom that incarnations are continuous amongst soul groups. Meaning, that souls that enter bodies of a certain genetic line, continue to do so over many millennia. So souls who enter the genetic line and inhabit those bodies today of the European Elite, some might call them reptilian or demonic, continue to do so today as those bloodlines rarify due to their insistence upon racial purity. Now in the context of my last post, that Barack Obama has a certain DNA line that links him to ancient Egyptians, but also to more modern European royal lineages, is, for them, the perfect opportunity to co-opt the inevitable by creating the perfect "Manchurian Candidate" that spans genetic potentiality of a large segment of the world population and that allows them to control the destinies of the world through him as the figurehead/priest king.

    They think in terms of energy. In terms of global populations and in terms of time, spanning, again, millennia. Because of that, Obama cannot be taken out of the longer context. Implicit in this understanding is the realization that they really believe that we have reached some sort of culminitive point in history, and that Obama is a lynchpin figure in the continuance of their domination of the world. I really can't imagine at this point who would come after him presidentially, or even if we will continue to have a system of this sort 2 years from now. This seems to be an apex of some sort, a time when all of these long-term plans are coming to a key point, where extraterrestrial, terrestrial and higher-D plans are focused and set upon shifting the balance of world power in one direction or another. Much of what will happen in the next decade or so is being affected by what seem to be petty political machinations currently occurring. The United States, as the crucible of elite power and the instrument of hegemonic dominance is the focus of these efforts, it seems to me, and what is happening Here and Now is key to determining how things will play out in the near and distant future.

    To delve into one particular stream of events, others in this thread have mentioned their belief that Obama was war-mongering for Syrian intervention. I have stated elsewhere that I believe that was a ploy to appear hawkish, knowing how - in a true tip of his Machiavellian hat - the conservative factions would rise against it just because it was him putting it forth. The result was, no intervention in Syria, an olive branch awarded to Iran, and, now, the rising focus, again, on Bibi in Israel and a concentration, again, on an Iranian nuclear reactor. The distance that the Kingdom - Saudi Arabia - is creating between them and the Obama administration is also noteable, given their previous ties of walks in the park and hand-holding intimacy with Dubya, at least. The care with which these old Zionist forces are approaching the issue reveals their tentativeness in raising these issues with Obama at the helm, which seems to me to be indicative of them not being certain what side he is on. That they represent certain factions of elite control tied in with the European illuminatic forces that are most implicit in the genocidal and Nazi International paradigmatic ends should also be apparent to those who have done the research.

    What does this mean? I do not know for certain, but, I think, the issue is not as "black and white" as many might have it be. Obama's DNA is indeed diverse, and that control they may think they have through genetic imprinting and programming may be creating a conflict within him that they cannot control, especially if he is as intelligent as he seems to be.

    Here, I have to give a (edited) nod to the OP, by stating that making up stories, being drug-friendly and a smoker, being homosexual and whatever other personal habits he may have cultivated over a lifetime, are not indicators of Obama being a stupid and limited man, as some have posited in this thread. Quite the contrary. Actors are well-known for their intelligence and openness, their holistic viewpoint and expansive natures. It is also important to remember, that acting used to be relegated to religious rites - to the Ceremonies, Temples, and to the Churches in most cultures - until, probably, around the Medieval period in Europe and then the world with the spread of the Western paradigm through Imperialism, Colonization and now Globalism. When acting was secularized, Actors, correspondingly, were still lionized but simultaneously demonized, which has continued to this day, with interesting and profound sociological, energetic and spiritual ramifications.

    I did watch both videos in the OP and respect the woman's testimony, which speaks to her own orientation as a Christian and perspective on human nature. What was most telling to me was her story of how Obama would bum a cig from people, telling tales, animated, jocular, engaging, and then, upon achieving his objective - having energetically dominated the person in question - he would immediately "drop the act" and move on to other interests, indicating the entire purpose of the play and his ability to control others through sheer force of will, intent and intellect. Don Juan, of Castaneda fame, might have called this behavior a form of "Controlled Folly", directed toward the achievement of a lower aim, i.e. smoking. But which was potentially only the reward for what was, for him, a more engaging and immediate aim: learning how to command and control others in his immediate environment through the force, and cult, of personality.

    Many consider this way of being in the world to be a negative, but the ancient streams of Hermetic and mystical thought do not necessarily hold that same viewpoint, being also insistent upon non-judgement, individual personal exploration of all realms of human potentiality and deeper streams of karmic involvement and debt payment that are difficult to determine based upon a single incarnation. His youth in Asia and exposure to Buddhism might consolidate and support this interpretation of his interpersonal demeanor when he returned to Hawaii.

    To return to my prior stream of thought and this entry, genetics are a limited means of control, as they can be overridden by will-power and intention, as also is well-known in the alternative community.

    And, as you state Grip, a more expansive understanding of these issues is much, much more synthetically inclusive of other realms of reality. But this manner of processing information is also much more demanding and paradigmatically shattering than most are comfortable attempting. The resultant cognitive dissonance is infinitely out of alignment with normative patterns of control and command and therefore, collective belief systems.
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    Whatever happens, Rahkyt, this poor chap is being used as a pawn in the great game. I feel sorry for him. He was meant to be here now - a mixture of black and white, gay and straight, Moslem and Christian, he probably suffers greatly by his 'handlers'. He is ageing beyond his years. Whatever 'their' game is - I hope he is released from it soonest - to actually have a life. This is truly horrific - to actually realise what is going on now, and to see the 'playing' of an individual to their detriment daily. Does he just say what he is supposed to say - is he allowed to have thoughts of his own any more? I doubt it. He is a figurehead - and most definitely a puppet. Horrendous.
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