Personal, controversial view of Monsanto, Globalists and Technology

[onawah]

Blufire, I suggest that the reason you remain a forum member here may be that deep down, you don't really believe the line you are selling us about how great GMOs are yourself...
Otherwise you would probably just go and hang out with a lot of people who really do think that way.

[gripreaper]

Thanks Dennis for you post yesterday. You really are my long lost brother.

For those who missed this (and many did) I'm adding a link to it.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...470#post695470

[Christine]

Posted by blufire (here)
But the needs of the many of humanity outweigh the needs of the few of us who are capable of caring for ourselves and those immediately in our care.

If we don’t like how it is being done today and how it looks it will be done for many more years then when are we truly going to create that better way that is more acceptable? Point me in that direction and I will most definitely go at it.

As you pointed out you have been a member of Avalon for years, isn't that the most redundant question you could ask after 58,000 threads of better ways!

Posted by blufire (here)
What is happening to me on this thread and others is a smear campaign . . .albeit I do not think it is on a conscious level or on purpose. By Bill, amer zo and many others even hinting that I may be deceived or brainwashed or hypnotized by ‘them’ ……

You yourself posed the question, so if the answers don't fit your own self concept then no need to accept them, this is not a smear campaign, conscious or unconscious! You are very astute at turning just about anything anyone says to your favor. But blufire it is so obvious to those who have eyes to see. And yes, I agree with Bill, Amzer Zo, and can sympathize with Sierra, sway, avid and others who are tired of your shenanigans.

Posted by blufire (here)
Do I agree that I could be flat out wrong . . . yep I very well could be . . . but right now where I sit in the middle of the road, neutral as possible and balanced as possible I ain’t feeling wrong.

I ain’t in no hurry and I don’t need to be right. But neither can I just idly sit by and not voice what I feel strongly may be heading our way.

To find our mission to do our part to heal this big blue jewel of a planet?

Glad to hear that! Wow, I only hope you mean it.

Posted by blufire (here)
So hit me with your best shot and just fire away . . . I can take it and still love you all. . . .and I mean that.

I hesitate to write one more word to you, my PMs have gone unanswered, previous questions ignored so my very human nature tells me that there is a probable ploy operating here. All the energy that has been funneled to you for months now, this leaves me feeling that you may have a truth to tell but then have not ever answered the critical questions from the hints you are prone to use in such a tantalizing way, always promising to reveal something important for humanity and then withholding.

The questions that remain unanswered by you are:

What is important about the Jesus and Magdalene bloodline?
Who are those you call "the shepherds"?
Your contact as a child, what did you experience?
And finally what is the ELE (extinction level event) that is going to happen?

I would think that in spite of your up bringing, the religious deceptions and the innumerable events of your life that you have valiantly confronted you have proven you are a very strong woman so playing poor misunderstood me doesn't cut it. You yourself claim your strong spirit.

I feel compelled to call you on this, are you honest enough to share what you have held back? Any person of a deep noble heart, who has accepted the purpose of service to other in their life, would feel compelled to share this information if it would truly help preserve life … to not to do so would be untenable to such a person.

Asked of you with respect… and love.

[heretogrow]

Yes bluefire please do share what Christine has asked for. Especially, of importance to me, is the ELE. I have only one reason to beg you for this and that is I wish to save my family, loved ones and as many others who will listen once the news is revealed. This is a wish that is so deeply ingrained in me. It has been a part of my path for years, although it has always been out of reach because I have never been in the circles privy to this information. You can change that. Please do tell...

Much Love,
Julia

[Bill Ryan]

I, too, bump these questions.

Posted by Christine (here)
The questions that remain unanswered by you are:

What is important about the Jesus and Magdalene bloodline?
Who are those you call "the shepherds"?
Your contact as a child, what did you experience?
And finally what is the ELE (extinction level event) that is going to happen?

To put it simply and crudely, please put up -- or just stop talking about this stuff in such an unhelpful way.

Be a scientist. Present the data for peer review.

And be intellectually honest. (Which means if you don't know something, just say so. That's always perfectly fine to do.)

Generalized innuendo is manipulative (knowingly or otherwise) and to spend the last year or more dropping unclear hints, even when specifically questioned, leaves a negative effect and a negative taste in the mouths of many readers.

No-one likes to hear vague inferences from someone else that that person knows more than they do, but are unwilling to share, and are for some reason just playing cat-and-mouse. (You projected that on to me, once, and it wasn't true. Was I being your mirror?)

In this habit of yours, it feels like you are always attempting to control (again, knowingly or otherwise), and this may be why many on this forum who are reading your posts are, as best as I can see, increasingly irritated by you.

Despite the opportunity given to you by your own thread about your experiences and worldview, there are so many good questions left unanswered that many members just raise their eyebrows (or shrug their shoulders) and move on to other threads where, in a confusing world, they at least have clearly explained facts, sequences, correlations and arguments presented for their intelligent consideration.

I do believe that in this (and some other of my recent posts addressed to you) I am echoing and representing the views of quite a number of other members.

[william r sanford72]

while i wait..dont wanna add fuel..or take sides...Gmos play a role like it or not in our food supply and what started out as something good and true..well we know whats going down on that end..it was hijacked and stolen.by the beast..the agenda.ptb..etc..monsanto is so big.so hooked into whats going on around us..our water.our soil.plants insects.us...if bluefire was given the visions i was giving ..then by all rights she must despair..what i saw..was unlike anything i have ever seen or felt..they didnt put me into room to watch a screen..i lived it.the smell.the sounds.all as if i was there.when it was done and i was dropped back to home..carryn there wonderful gift..i froze..in horror.for months every time i closed my eye..and every waking moment the vision consumed me..my sanity..and life..it took a moment of utter despair..so dark..that i was begging for release..for them to take it back..in that moment i felt the heavy of it lift..so light for just a brief moment..and relief..i still carry the visions with me.always will.they are a part of me.but i survived..with my sanity somewhat intact..and hope..light..its still heavy tho..so if bluefire be carrying this around..well..have grace and mercy..it is enough to drive one to seek answers and comfort might even make one a bit..hard..fear is suttle..tricky..leads ones mind and heart in all kinds of directions.everyday i come on avalon and most times now go right to the bee thread..a thread that Bill Ryan and avalon made happen..no i wont talk about the visions..i chose to go the other route...truth always.no fear.william.

[soleil]

bump?

[ulli]

I just want to say this, without getting too personal.
And kudos to those who can glean useful insights from this ...
We are all 100% unique, to the point of being extra special
Yet each single one of us is also 100% dispensable.

When a person can reconcile this contradiction they can start operating on several levels simultaneously.

Then they can reach a larger faction of people with their message
and they can receive intuition from not only a variety of ET races,
but even from the Source that created those races.

However, I just hope that my awareness of my own uniqueness does not blind me to this fact, namely that
the planet and total reality will always be bigger than little me,
no matter how special I feel, and how many private VIP tours the Creator Source of all universes takes me on
to show me how other galaxies are formed.

[Nickolai]

LOL

Now, it's Blufire is cornered....

Who's next?

[onawah]

I would just like to add that Blufire has a habit of answering questions with questions, an evasive tactic that is often attributed to shills, along with providing much distraction to deflect from the central, communal task of rooting out the truth.
I am not accusing her of being a shill; I think it's more complicated than that, but it's another reason why her motivations are being held as suspect by some here.

[nonesuch]

It's obvious to me that blufire is no shill. She's always prefaced her 'out there' comments with an acknowledgement that what she believes is controversial and will press many people's buttons. There are plenty here who post far weirder things than she's ever shared or intimated without a hint of self awareness or care about how their comments come across to others. At least she warned us and keeps us up to date.

What I see is a lot of buttons pressed and outright attacks or anger footnoted with love and respect but mostly by what appears to me to be primitive group think. Blufire won't back down simply because what she's saying is politically incorrect according the experts here. If she's wrong, she's wrong. Why all the artillery? I think blufire has proven herself as articulate and credible in many many posts that were quite well received until she told us she would share something we'd probably find unpalatable and then did so (at least as far as Monsanto and corporations go).

Bill, when you insist that blufire agree that pure evil rules the day, you DO sort of sound like a fundamentalist preacher who's been crossed by a member of his flock who is his equal in intelligence and experience but who doesn't follow the party line he'd established as a baseline for credibility in his kingdom.

Your comments appear to me to be a misuse or at least a miscalculation of your authority and the implicit power you wield as the big kahuna here. Without researching your history with blufire, I don't have an understanding of why you're acting the way you are. In the current atmosphere, I wouldn't post anything I thought you might disapprove of without a lawyer, a therapist and a flock of animal spirits present to protect me from your Divine Certainty. (They're standing behind me now).

Surely, you've noticed how you automatically garner multiple thanks if you as much as fart in public on the forum, so your power and words, particularly when engaged in an holy intervention, are amplified much more greatly than you seem to be taking responsibility for; unless of course there is an unowned aspect of your intent which IS to inspire blufire to disenroll from the forum.

I have no interest in Monsanto other than to shut it down and send the criminals to prison. But with all the amazingly nutty beliefs that are tolerated on this forum, I'm pretty surprised at the vehemence with which mods and the leader here are going after blufire. What I consider wildly fictional scientology ideas are spread here with great tolerance and enthusiasm. Rabidly anti-gay comments are tolerated or ignored... with a mere slap on the wrist from the mods, if that.

It's frustrating to me that blufire teased us long ago with the mostly undelivered promise of crucial information from her childhood contacts and the revelation of a massively horrid vision of what's coming. Is that pretty much what all the heat is about here?

Regardless, it's seems deliberately insulting to tell an intelligent, insightful and articulate woman that she's been deceived by the 'evil ones' particularly as a basis for countering her ideas...followed by a denial of the similarity in tone and content of that argument to a backwoods preacher from the past!

I would very much like to know how blufire came to believe as she does. Can there be anything to it? I think she's tried to tell us a little in many recent posts, but her ideas are dismissed and yes, shunned, precisely because her explanations are unpopular.

I personally have no doubt Monsanto and corporations crossed the line a long time ago, but I never signed a loyalty pact that prevents me from thinking outside the box of what looks like the truth to me.

Rigidified dogma by any other name smells just as rotten.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Posted by nonesuch (here)
It's obvious to me that blufire is no shill. She's always prefaced her 'out there' comments with an acknowledgement that what she believes is controversial and will press many people's buttons. There are plenty here who post far weirder things than she's ever shared or intimated without a hint of self awareness or care about how their comments come across to others. At least she warned us and keeps us up to date.

What I see is a lot of buttons pressed and outright attacks or anger footnoted with love and respect but mostly by what appears to me to be primitive group think. Blufire won't back down simply because what she's saying is politically incorrect according the experts here. If she's wrong, she's wrong. Why all the artillery? I think blufire has proven herself as articulate and credible in many many posts that were quite well received until she told us she would share something we'd probably find unpalatable and then did so (at least as far as Monsanto and corporations go).

Bill, when you insist that blufire agree that pure evil rules the day, you DO sort of sound like a fundamentalist preacher who's been crossed by a member of his flock who is his equal in intelligence and experience but who doesn't follow the party line he'd established as a baseline for credibility in his kingdom.

Your comments appear to me to be a misuse or at least a miscalculation of your authority and the implicit power you wield as the big kahuna here. Without researching your history with blufire, I don't have an understanding of why you're acting the way you are. In the current atmosphere, I wouldn't post anything I thought you might disapprove of without a lawyer, a therapist and a flock of animal spirits present to protect me from your Divine Certainty. (They're standing behind me now).

Surely, you've noticed how you automatically garner multiple thanks if you as much as fart in public on the forum, so your power and words, particularly when engaged in an holy intervention, are amplified much more greatly than you seem to be taking responsibility for; unless of course there is an unowned aspect of your intent which IS to inspire blufire to disenroll from the forum.

I have no interest in Monsanto other than to shut it down and send the criminals to prison. But with all the amazingly nutty beliefs that are tolerated on this forum, I'm pretty surprised at the vehemence with which mods and the leader here are going after blufire. What I consider wildly fictional scientology ideas are spread here with great tolerance and enthusiasm. Rabidly anti-gay comments are tolerated or ignored... with a mere slap on the wrist from the mods, if that.

It's frustrating to me that blufire teased us long ago with the mostly undelivered promise of crucial information from her childhood contacts and the revelation of a massively horrid vision of what's coming. Is that pretty much what all the heat is about here?

Regardless, it's seems deliberately insulting to tell an intelligent, insightful and articulate woman that she's been deceived by the 'evil ones' particularly as a basis for countering her ideas...followed by a denial of the similarity in tone and content of that argument to a backwoods preacher from the past!

I would very much like to know how blufire came to believe as she does. Can there be anything to it? I think she's tried to tell us a little in many recent posts, but her ideas are dismissed and yes, shunned, precisely because her explanations are unpopular.

I personally have no doubt Monsanto and corporations have crossed the line a long time ago, but I never signed a loyalty pact that prevents me from thinking outside the box of what looks like the truth to me.

Rigidified dogma by any other name smells just as rotten.

Well said. That is pretty much how I feel. Nonesuch, you pretty much perfectly represented my views better than I could have. The whole "publicly admit you are wrong and I am right" type posts leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Perhaps what blufire is hinting is very personal and painful?
Anyway, I am bowing out with these words of wisdom from Kate Bush: (the "we" in the lyrics below are blufire and the rest of us)

If you can't tell your sister,
If you can't tell a priest,
Is it so deep you don't think that you can speak about it?
To anyone,
Can you tell it to your heart?
Can you find it in your heart?

To let go of these feelings
Like a bell to a Southerly wind?
We could be like two strings beating,
Speaking in sympathy...

Kate Bush - Love & Anger

[Christine]

Posted by nonesuch (here)
What I see is a lot of buttons pressed and outright attacks or anger footnoted with love and respect but mostly by what appears to me to be primitive group think. Blufire won't back down simply because what she's saying is politically incorrect according the experts here. If she's wrong, she's wrong. Why all the artillery? I think blufire has proven herself as articulate and credible in many many posts that were quite well received until she told us she would share something we'd probably find unpalatable and then did so (at least as far as Monsanto and corporations go).

Bill, when you insist that blufire agree that pure evil rules the day, you DO sort of sound like a fundamentalist preacher who's been crossed by a member of his flock who is his equal in intelligence and experience but who doesn't follow the party line he'd established as a baseline for credibility in his kingdom.

I guess since I stepped into these waters again I will continue to do my best to help clarify a complex situation, complex because it strikes the chords of some of our deepest held truths and an underlying fear of our destruction. As note, it is very obvious that we ALL read into words our own interpretations.

In all the "dialogue" both on forum and in private (mods and admins) I have never heard anyone, Bill or otherwise express a dogma that blufire need to accept anyone else's opinion. While many, if not most, of the forum members disagree with her point of views on Monsanto, "shepherds" to protect us and the reasons for geoengineering, I have experienced in myself and in mediation with the mods nothing but a desire to work with blufire and help her find a safe way to get her story out, not to ridicule her but because Bill and many of us really believe there is merit in hearing what she has to say and could help ALL of us in our endeavor to understand the truth of our perilous situation here on planet earth.

Posted by nonesuch (here)
I'm pretty surprised at the vehemence with which mods and the leader here are going after blufire.

No mod is "going after blufire with vehemence". There is however a large body of frustration with her constant evasive and accusative replies to some very direct and heartfelt questions.

As is the case it is impossible for the whole forum to know the amount of care, respect and love (do not chide another's words for they are sincere) that we exercise on a daily basis. I assure you and anyone else who thinks differently, blufire has received not only respect but large amounts of time and energy all directed at helping her reveal her story, not only for the readers benefit but for her own.

The below pretty much nails it…. everything else you wrote is your own subjective opinion which you are entitled to of course, but that doesn't make it true nor does it help bring clarity.

Posted by nonesuch (here)
It's frustrating to me that blufire teased us long ago with the mostly undelivered promise of crucial information from her childhood contacts and the revelation of a massively horrid vision of what's coming. Is that pretty much what all the heat is about here?

Posted by nonesuch (here)
I would very much like to know how blufire came to believe as she does. Can there be anything to it?

Yes, I would too… the ball remains in her court on that.

Judgement of another's motivations smells pretty rotten too.

[Delight]

Conversations have underlying premise. I have had conversations with people who are committed to greening desert by using permaculture, rehabilitating hybridized and GMO seed germ with essential microbes and sea minerals, turning garbage into oil, planting fruit trees everywhere and other visionary potentials.

I have spoken with people who have been prepping for the BIG ONE and the fall of civilization since 1965.

The premise that I discern under Blufire's support for GMO is that disaster will necessitate drastic measures and/or that humanity is so F'd up that only a few will be able to have the life she would prefer. She says she was told this by some blue people. They may have had the best info at the time but it is not present day updated truth. Many beings who used to think they knew what would happen have been changing their minds.

A need to upgrade our premise concerning the state of the galaxy is not just for Blufire but pertinent for all. The whole game has been changing. We have to be the ones to celebrate the change. Otherwise we keep feeling the fear and we cannot be open to the reality in this moment.

An inability to have a conversation based on visions which are not darkened by disaster, crisis and make do is STIFLING. It is not kind and respectful to proclaim "I like THIS beautiful rural lifestyle full of organic produce and messy but free life" but "Y'all need THAT constricted city dwelling with gruels and rules because......" This is not giving as one wishes to receive.

Recently a whistleblower Karen Hudes was interviewed. She was asked about arrest and conviction of political criminals. She said "there is no time" or something to that effect due to a whole earth crisis (the time has expired on that prediction). So, Karen, what about NOW?

Blufire, what about NOW? The experts you met may have been pleasantly happily WRONG.
Everyone, what do we intend now that is what we would have for ourselves?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by nonesuch (here)

Blufire won't back down simply because what she's saying is politically incorrect according the experts here.

Nope, you're wrong. The real problem is that there are some important questions which blufire will not (or cannot) answer. She appears to refuse to do so.

Each time she's asked any of these, she is silent, or talks about something else, or pleads that she's a victim. She is not. (It's possible that you're not up to speed regarding the various places and times that this has happened.) I treat her with respect, but I'm also a tough questioner. You would expect nothing less of me.

I'll say again that I'm steadfast and certain in my personal opinion that there's evil at work here. This is not Avalon's opinion (in some vague, general sense). It's my own. Remember: I'm a member here, as well as a mod. I can express what I wish, as long as I'm courteous, respectful and truthful -- and I am.

And I'm not accusing blufire of being evil, and never have. Please read what I write as carefully as I write it.

I'm stating very clearly that in my opinion she's been duped (very possibly for many years) by unknown beings with an evil agenda, and is inadvertently representing and trying to justify their agenda here. I'm entitled to that personal opinion, and I'll express it, with full explanation if need be.

This is not personal against blufire. As she'll confirm, I've actually supported her far more than most would have done to assist and encourage her to make her full presentation.

It's about what's going on in the world, and what possible future(s) may be in store for us all. (And, in my opinion again, we have a say in that. We're not victims, either.)

These matters are important, when there are so many people on Avalon and elsewhere who earnestly want to know what's happening in the world, and why. I have a personal duty to stand for the truth as best I see it. Others can do that, too. But if they don't like my opinions (and some do not!) -- they're free to leave.

[nonesuch]

Thank you Christine, Delight and Bill for your responses. Christine, I of course can't be aware of the amount of private communications that mods have had with blufire. I've had none, so I can't claim any depth of involvement or time commitment to her personally. My statements were my opinions based on what I've read, plus my intuition (a combo of reading between the lines and projecting my own emotions, at times), experience and common sense.

Delight, I'm certainly not in agreement with 'let them eat GMO cake" while I dine on freshly harvested free range pheasant, but I do know from experience that any physical health issues are more prominently caused by inner beliefs, hard won developed gifts of self healing (and more) than by purely outer influences. I'm pretty sure I can eat GMOs and survive because I've survived much more potent poison than that from the allopathic merchants of death . If there is an urgency for education and we can't stop Monsanto instantly its monstrous tracks, then maybe metaphysics as well as gardening needs to be given a more prominent consideration on the school curriculum. I won't be voting Monsanto executives onto the board, however.

Regarding my comments about mods… When I see more two or more mods approaching any member with what looks like a coordinated script of some sort, sometimes apparently to discredit that Avalon member, it looks like a not too well hidden conspiracy to me. I suppose that can't be avoided when each mod has had his or her own conversations with that member and I presume other mods in private, then goes public with their already pre-digested point of view.

The 'group think' I referred may be generated during deliberations that are mostly out of view from most of us. I suppose after hours of discussion its hard to realize that mentioning even a hint of what was actually agreed on in private when presented in public comes across more strongly as a conspiracy than perhaps intended.

I respond to the unseen and interpret through the seat of my pants, like many here do. I used to distrust my intuition when I saw abuse, to the point of apologizing for what turned out to be my strengths. Now I tend to call it as a I see it, even if the very people I’m addressing don’t see it my way.

When I come across anyone fighting absolute evil, I'm reminded of those who study war in the pursuit of peace. I hope they haven't taken all their research so seriously that they attract or imagine as the greater truth the very thing they were once trying to eliminate. I often take breaks from Avalon because my own negativity is stirred up or amplified by the topics covered here or when I'm frustrated by the importance given to topics that don't move the discussion along (i.e., the recent Obama high school testimonial/hearsay acting thread that mostly reconfirmed already amply supported opinions).

Bill, regarding bluefire, maybe you're right about put up or shut up. That conclusion could have come from spending far too much time negotiating with blufire, when she either doesn't have the goods or won't share what she does have, for whatever reasons. Without going back through numerous threads, I will take your word for it that she's stepped forward to share information then withdrawn her offer more than just a couple times.

In that case, it probably is appropriate that she (you, bluefire, since you’re in the room) drop the subject and come clean with herself that she's not going to pursue those topics here no matter how much she feels compelled to. I have had to do that myself many times in life and it becomes easier with each instance. No one person is solely given the key that will save the world. Our divine nature is something that is shared. If I can't or won't heal it, someone else can and will. I'm not the only channel of good here.

If I've been told by "God" or some cheap imitation that I'm the sole recipient of crucial info I must act on or it won't get done, and worse, if it doesn’t get done then we’ll all die (!!!) then I'm probably being lied to or lying to myself.

[onawah]

I would like to ask Blufire if she has ever, or would ever consider having regression therapy to revisit those contacts she had with ETs to bring them up to the present time for evaluation and examination.
(I think there are people who can do this long distance, so it would not necessarily have to entail travel.)
And I think it is probably a good idea for anyone who has had Contact to be checked for implants--whether physical or energetic.
There are many cases of Contact with E.T.s who appeared to be benevolent but were not, or who, at the very least, had a hidden agenda.
Perhaps a reading with Bill Ryan's psychic friend Carol Clark would be a good place to start...

[gripreaper]

And this post will be cross pollinated in its entirety. It is very relevant to this discussion.

Posted by blufire (here)

I am offering a different view based on years of observation and research and from my childhood contact. Most of all from what I see happening on a foundational level (globally). I am coming from a very neutral balanced place . . .no fear . . no hate . . . just watching and remembering.

I understand that. Correct me if I am wrong, but your "subjective" childhood experiences are corroborating the need for GMO, chemtrailing, microwaving and terraforming earth because of some cataclysmic "event" which will wipe out the current genome and is therefore necessary to sustain life "after" the event, based on the need for humans and animal and plant species to adapt and survive with radiation and the existing conditions which will be prevalent post apocalypse.

This is somehow benevolent on the part of the controllers to preserve the integrity and the survival of the species and there is NO ALTERNATIVE to this scenario. It is carved in stone so to speak.

Well, the alternative narrative, context and scenario, which is corroborated by history, suggests that a group of off world interlopers descended upon this planet and altered the DNA of the indigenous species for their own nefarious reasons, and are now reaping the results of that manipulation and find it necessary to alter the genome again in order to maintain that agenda.

All of our institutions: government, religious, education, media, finance and corporate production is designed for the benefit of these few psychopathic interlopers at the behest of the 7 billion sentient empathic hybridized beings on planet earth. The current structure of control can be back engineered thousands of years and corroborated by history.

Where you and I disagree, is whether these beings are benevolent or malevolent in their intent. I am leaning towards a nefarious viewpoint based on all of the available evidence. My added subjectivity is not corroborated with alien childhood visitations, but what is available historically and what is available based on what these elite are doing.

What these elite are doing goes against nature and goes against the current genome. This is fact, not a subjective interpretation.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...810#post758810

[onawah]

I don't want to go too far off topic, but if you haven't taken a look at the thread about Chris Thomas, Gripreaper,
At:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-Chris-Thomas
...and the two about Simon Parkes...
65 page members only thread at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...kes+interviews

public thread at: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...----Interviews

...part of the discussions there has been about the Annunaki and whether the clay tablets that Sitchin translated were correct.
Chris Thomas, who says he can read the Akashic Records, says that they are only partly true, and Simon Parkes says they are correct except for the part about how they bio-engineered the human race.
The reason why they lied is apparently because they want us to see them as our Gods so they can take complete control of this planet.
Turiya, who started the thread about Chris Thomas's work, has been posting a lot of his writing, and Herbert has been transcribing a lot of the info from his video interviews.
Simon is answering questions directly from members, and will be giving an interview in December with Avalon Mod, Karelia.
I'm hoping we will get more discussion as to which of the various agendas are originating from the Reptilians, the Greys, the Annunaki, etc.
I hope you will join in if you haven't already. I always find your take on things to be of great interest.
And anyone else who is interested in this subject which has been kicked around Conspiracy sites for so long.
The more the merrier, and who knows, we might finally get some real clarity on the subject.

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Gripreaper, are any of your conclusions based on Zecharia Sitchin's work?

Well, Stichen got some of it right, and other things he extrapolated and biased based on his subjectivity. Some have said he was commissioned by the Illuminati, of which he was a member, to interpret the Sumerian stone tablets and cylinder seals. Therefore, his interpretations are subject to additional verification from other sources in order to triangulate a postulate which has a high enough percent probability to be considered as a variable for a more collated and synthesized context.

The postulate which states that beings from other planets and solar systems visited earth and manipulated the genome, used these hybridized creatures to mine gold for themselves which they took off planet, and summarily eliminated all indigenous humans who were not part of their hybrids, while expanding their agendas and their influence across the entire planet, after almost totally destroying earth through a cataclysmic event which they themselves perpetuated, causing them to be stuck here for millennium until they were able to rebuild their technology which they lost...

Well, I think he got that part right. As far as Nibiru and the 3600 year orbit and some of his other postulates, there is no way to know for sure how correct he was or how influenced he was by his connections, commissions, and subjective bias.

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--> gripreaper

Here as always, the controllers are up to no good. Why then do they wish to preserve the integrity of the species? After all, it sounds such a good thing to do.

Because they want to restore us to as we are now after the evolutionary leap predicted by people as serious as Paul LaViolette. Compared with what’s coming, they much prefer us the way we are, and intend to interfere with nature taking its course on this massive cosmic level.

According to LaViolette, the solar system’s current one in 29-34 million year passage through the galactic plane is the reason behind the interstellar dust we are seeing, which will compound the effect of the galactic superwave now due (or overdue), which also drives cosmic debris (including all these comets) into the inner solar system. He refers to Ernst Mayr’s theory of quantum speciation:

Often these evolutionary quantum jumps occur at times when the population of the parent species has become decimated to the point that all that remain are one or more localized populations, a situation termed catastrophic selection. This evidence weighs against Darwin’s theory of natural selection (…) The superwave hypothesis fares much better in accounting for these characteristics of natural evolution. Adaptive radiation, quantum speciation, and catastrophic selection would all follow as natural consequences of a superwave event. (Earth Under Fire p.319)

What I am suggesting is that on an altogether larger than Monsanto scale, the real Operation Roundup is the galaxy weeding out certain species in the manner of a careful gardener or farmer so that others can thrive. The controllers are on the wrong end of this situation: they are the weeds being rounded up. They are seeking to turn themselves into a strain that is resistant to this pesticide, and us into a docile crop they can replant later. Genetic modification on this scale is truly unbelievable, but I gather it has happened (many times) before. However, this time it is not going to work.

We are not necessarily here to ensure our own personal survival (maybe for some), but primarily to prevent this interference and to make sure this event takes place unhindered. We need to act now because with the combination of a superwave combined with a galactic planar position and probably other things as well, it is now or never.