Kybernetes: Physics and the Psychic Flame

[SilentFeathers]

Great thread Vivek, Thanks

As above, so below.....

"collective will power"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lFg21x2sj-M

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NFKQtMNqJuc

[Jeffrey]

A follow up for this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post760270



Excerpts from, Is Dark Matter a Glimpse of a Deeper Level of Reality?

Ordinary matter is the surface chop, dark matter the languid but powerful deep currents, and dark energy the quiet bulk of the sea.

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String theorists and other would-be unifiers of physics face a basic problem. The theories they seek to unify, quantum field theory and Einstein’s general theory of relativity, are well-grounded and well-tested, yet mutually incompatible. Reconciling them will demand that some deeply held intuition must give way. One such intuition is that the world exists within space and time. Participants at the Kavli workshop were inclined to think that space and time are not fundamental, but emergent. The universe we seeing playing out in space and time may be just the surface level, where we float like little boats while leviathans stir in the deep.

For the full article, by George Musser, can be read here: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...el-of-reality/

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Subtle Bodies and Dark Matter
by Jay Alfred

Long before physicists stumbled onto invisible 'dark matter and energy', metaphysicists had been experimenting and observing them using the sensory systems of their higher energy bodies. They generally called it 'subtle matter and energy' but it went by different names in different places; the most popular being 'qi', 'prana' and 'kundalini'. 'Qi' is a general term for 'energy' in Mandarin; 'prana' and 'kundalini' are terms that have similar meanings in Hindu metaphysics. This invisible energy has not only been observed by those in the East, it has also been studied in the West. In the West the term 'L' energy is sometimes used. This 'L' energy or 'life energy' has the same general meaning as qi and prana. Science has been unable to measure qi, prana, kundalini or L-energy directly - just as it finds it difficult to measure dark matter or energy directly.

Is dark matter the same as subtle matter?

Obviously both dark matter and subtle matter are invisible to most of us who use the sensory systems of our physical-biomolecular body almost exclusively during this lifetime. However, convince yourself that they are the same by comparing a sample of properties of dark matter with subtle matter, below. (The list is not exhaustive. More and more correlations are cropping-up as we study the subject in greater detail.)

1. There is Mutual Affinity between Dark/Subtle and Ordinary Matter

According to science reporter Robert Britt, studies show that on large cosmic scales dark matter and ordinary matter in galaxies trace out the same shapes and structures. "They become sculpted into nearly identical sheets and filaments, with vast expanses of near-nothingness in between." According to metaphysicist Charles Leadbeater there is an affinity between "astral" matter (a form of subtle matter) and physical matter He says that astral matter is attracted to physical matter and moulds into its shape as the physical-biomolecular body grows. Astral matter follows its every change, 99% of which is compressed within the periphery of the physical-biomolecular body. Conversely, there are also observations which confirm that ordinary matter falls under dark matter's influence. There is, in fact, a mutual affinity between dark/subtle matter and ordinary matter.

2. Dark/Subtle Matter provides the Invisible Scaffolding, Mould or Template for Ordinary Matter

Physicist Chung Pei-Ma, an associate professor of astronomy at UC Berkeley, concludes that "the ghost universe of dark matter is a template for the visible universe". According to Richard Massey, a dark matter researcher at the California Institute of Technology, dark matter condensed first. The gravity of dark matter then pulled ordinary matter into it. "The normal matter flows gravitationally into this sort of dark matter scaffolding," Massey says "and is constructed within that into the galaxy and the stars we see today." According to scientists, dark matter and its gravity shaped bright matter in a manner similar to how the texture of the ground shapes puddles of rainwater. This basically means dark matter acts as a mould for ordinary matter to accumulate and be shaped. Dark matter has been regarded by scientists as something that gives structure to ordinary matter. This means it allows ordinary matter to maintain its form.

Barbara Brennan, former NASA engineer and now world-renowned energy healer, says that the "human energy field" has an organizing effect on matter and builds forms; any changes in the material world are preceded by a change in this field. Metaphysicists, such as Brennan, have been insisting for years that these invisible fields form the templates for the formation of the biomolecular body. Metaphysicist Leonard Ravitz says that the invisible electric fields serve as an electronic matrix to keep the corporeal form in shape. In other words they provide the structure to our physical-biomolecular body to maintain its form.

Brennan observes through her "higher sense perception" that an "energy field matrix" in the shape of a leaf is projected by a plant prior to the growth of a leaf, and then the leaf grows into that already existing form. In other words, the energy field acts as a mould for the growth of the visible leaf. In Raymond Burr's experiments with plant seedlings, he discovered electrical fields which resembled the eventual adult plant. He also discovered that salamanders possessed an energy field shaped like an adult salamander, and that this blueprint even existed in an unfertilized egg. Young salamanders were surrounded by an electrical field of the same size as an adult salamander. He also found that electrical fields surrounding sprouts did not correspond to the form of the seeds but to the form of the grown plant. According to Leadbeater, the (invisible) "etheric double" is actually built in advance of the human fetus. "Clairvoyants sometimes see this doll-like little figure hovering about, and afterwards within the body of the mother", he says.

3. Dark/Subtle Matter generates Superficial Forms

Physicists Chung-Pei Ma and Edmund Bertschinger of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) say, based on computer models of how dark matter would move under the force of gravity, that dark matter should form smaller clumps that look superficially like the galaxies and globular clusters we see in our luminous (ordinarily visible) universe.

Metaphysicists, such as Leadbeater, say that the etheric and astral bodies look superficially like the biomolecular body but they operate differently, being based on electromagnetic rather than largely biochemical processes as in the biomolecular body.

4. Dark/Subtle Matter Astronomical Objects Outnumber Ordinary Objects

Ma and Bertschinger of MIT say that computer simulations of the evolution of dark matter predict far more clumps of dark matter than ordinarily visible luminous matter in a specified region. According to Ma, "Our galaxy, the Milky Way, has about a dozen satellites, but in simulations we see thousands of satellites of dark matter."

Mystic Paramahansa Yogananda said in 1946 that "just as many physical suns and stars roam in space, so there are also countless astral suns and moons." In 1957 metaphysicist Norman Pearson noted that so far (in Science) we have only considered physical planets; but there are also planets composed of 'super-physical' matter. In fact, he says, "The super-physical planets form the greater part of the planetary population of the Solar System."

5. Dark/Subtle Matter Particles Can Pass through You

Compare the description of dark matter particles, called WIMPs, by a physicist with the globules of L-energy, described by metaphysicist Paul Pearsall:

"If there are as many WIMPs [i.e. dark matter particles] as would be required to explain the motions of galaxies, large numbers are whizzing through the room you are sitting in, and through your own body, without you noticing" - John Gribbin, Physicist.

"It [i.e. globules of subtle L-energy] passes unchanged through any known substance and nothing shields or deflects it" - Paul Pearsall, Metaphysicist

"We don't know what the remaining 90% of matter is, but this 'dark matter' differs from ordinary matter in being able to pass right through both ordinary matter and other dark matter, just like ghosts are supposed to pass through stone walls." - Theoretical Astrophysics Group, University of Oxford

Ron Cowen says, "Evidence indicates that when speeding fragments of dark matter meet, they don't collide as other matter do but pass right through each other, ghostlike."

Observations by the Chandra X-Ray Observatory suggest that if dark matter particles do collide, they do so relatively weakly. In other words, they will not be appreciably affected on collision.

Leadbeater noted (almost a century ago) that subtle astral bodies can and do constantly interpenetrate one another fully, without in the least injuring one another. "People on the astral plane," according to him, "can and do pass through one another constantly, and through fixed astral objects." When passing through another subtle astral body for a short time, the two astral bodies are not appreciably affected. However, if the interpenetration lasts for some time, Leadbeater says that they do affect one another "as far as the rates of vibration [i.e. frequencies] are concerned."

This is not surprising, as (according to plasma metaphysics) subtle bodies are electromagnetic bodies. Hence, when two subtle bodies pass through each other slowly there would be electromagnetic effects - such as changes in frequencies and distribution of charges over the subtle body. David Spergel of Princeton University, commenting on the findings by the Chandra X-Ray Observatory, is of the view that "the findings do not rule out interactions, other than gravitational effects, among dark matter particles." Hence bodies composed of dark matter particles can interact with one another electromagnetically. The ability of subtle bodies to pass through other subtle bodies and objects betrays the fact that they are composed of low-density dark matter.

6. Dark/Subtle Matter is of Low Density

According to scientists, the average dark matter density in the Solar System is much lower (a trillion trillion times lower) than that of rocks, water and other substances typically found on Earth.

Out-of-body researcher, Robert Monroe, observes that the 'Second Body' can penetrate walls and concludes that, "Anything that can interpenetrate a wall must have very little density." Metaphysicist Leadbeater observed (around 1910) that astral matter is only relatively solid. Almost a century ago he said, "The particles in the densest astral matter are further apart, relative to their size, than even gaseous particles. Hence, it is easier for two of the densest astral bodies to pass through each other than it would be for the lightest gas to diffuse itself in the air." In other words, astral bodies are composed of "collisionless" dark matter.

7. Dark/Subtle Matter rapidly increases in Density towards the Center

A study using the Sloan Digital Sky Survey provides the most direct evidence yet that galaxies reside at the centre of giant, dark matter concentrations that may be 50 times larger than the visible galaxy itself! The 'lambda cold dark matter' model is a popular scientific model that predicts that dark matter rapidly increases in density towards the centre of a galaxy. Astrophysicists modeling the motion of dark matter say that each clump had a density that peaked in the centre and fell-off toward the edges in the exact same way, independent of its size. Observations with the Chandra X-ray Observatory support the cold dark matter model. To test the model, researchers used Chandra's sharp optics to measure the temperature and intensity of the hot, X-ray-emitting gas in a galaxy cluster some 4 billion light-years from Earth. The data obtained by John S Arabadjis and Mark W Bautz of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, along with Gordon P Garmire of Pennsylvania State University in State College, found that the density is greater the closer it is to the centre of the cluster.

Leadbeater reported in 1910 that the densest aggregation of subtle astral matter is within the periphery of the physical body of a man. Similarly, he said, in the case of the Earth, the greater part of its astral matter is gathered together within the limits of its ordinarily visible physical sphere. The density profile of subtle astral matter is consistent with the density profile of dark matter observed by the Chandra X-Ray Observatory.

8. Dark/Subtle Matter is "Weakly Interacting"

Physicists say dark matter 'interacts weakly' with ordinarily visible matter. They could well have said that there are 'subtle interactions' between dark and ordinarily visible matter. The term 'subtle' used by metaphysicists is not much different in meaning from 'weakly interacting' used by physicists to describe the nature of interactions between ordinary and dark matter.

9. Dark/Subtle Matter is Composed of High Energy Particles

Dark matter particles include supersymmetric objects and particles. According to scientists, these are higher mass-higher energy particles that have not been detected by our current low energy particle accelerators because of their high energies.

Subtle matter (in traditional metaphysical theories) is considered to be made up of highly energetic particles which generally becomes visible (as objects) after some training in meditation or similar exercises. In Hindu metaphysics, we find references to not only the "anu" (i.e. standard physical particles) but "param-anu" (which are super-physical particles). Valerie Hunt, Professor Emeritus at UCLA and internationally recognized authority in the area of energy field medicine, says that "even ancient Hindu literature asserts that the energy body possesses a higher vibration [or frequency] than normal matter-energy." Modern 'seers' were unanimous in their opinion that subtle bodies consist of "as yet undiscovered higher frequency matter and energy" and have mass - long before any widespread awareness of dark matter or supersymmetry theories.

10. Dark/Subtle Matter forms Webs

According to Britt, scientific studies show that both ordinary and dark matter work in concert to build a web of filaments in space, with dense junctions where galaxies cluster together. The resulting structures, he says, look something like spider webs.

In 1904 metaphysicist Annie Besant reported that, "During human antenatal life a single thread weaves a network, a shimmering web of inconceivable fineness and delicate beauty, with minute meshes. Within the meshes of this web the coarser particles of the bodies are built together." The Chinese acupuncture map of meridians in the physical-etheric body also resembles a web of energy. According to Brennan, the physical-etheric body is "like a sparkling web of light beams". To a clairvoyant, "the etheric body consists of a definite structure of lines of force and sparks of bluish white light move along these lines" she says. This web has been discussed in more detail in the author's article Acupuncture Meridians and the Cosmic Spider Web.

11. Dark/Subtle Matter is Subject to Gravity

"Thanks to a new analysis by physicists at Caltech and the University of Toronto, we can expect that lumps of dark matter gravitationally attract each other in just the same way that lumps of normal matter (like you and the Earth, for instance) attract each other." - Science Daily, October 2006

"Astral matter [i.e. dark matter] gravitates towards the center of the Earth, just as physical matter does." - Charles Leadbeater, Metaphysicist, 1910

According to Brennan 'aura' appears to have weight. Monroe believes that the 'Second Body' has weight and is subject to the gravitational force. (Weight is, of course, an effect of the gravitational force.) It appears that what was discovered by Science in 2006 was observed by Leadbeater almost a century ago and also by many other experimental metaphysicists.

Conclusion

There is only one inescapable conclusion: The dark matter and energy of physicists is the subtle matter and energy of metaphysicists. Sooner or later qi, prana and kundalini must be accounted for by Science under dark matter and energy - after all they are, by definition, dark matter and energy. It is also important to note that the metaphysical evidence strongly suggests that certain people can see this dark matter (using the sensory-cognitive systems of their higher energy subtle bodies) which is ordinarily invisible to most of us.

© Copyright 2007 Jay Alfred

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/509979

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
We are self similar.

Spirit

The Spirit is the ocean of infinite awareness that underlies all of space -- it is like Brahman. It's the sea from which the waves of dark matter roll into the universe. Ordinary matter is akin to the foam on these waves, only a fraction of the whole reality.

Our individualized Spirit is a pinhole of light where the subtle energies of this underlying superconciousness leak into this reality of things.

It's dark to science, but it is a psychic flame to the seers.



Soul

The Soul is the field created from the influx of this energy as it cycles in and out like a constant breath of simultaneous inhalation and exhalation. The Soul is like a womb.



Dyad

This is the principle of the Mother-Father manifested together. They are one and they are mutually exclusive. The pupil could not function without the iris, and the iris would be of no purpose without the pupil. See also: The Eye is a Microcosm and Concentric Shells



The gyre is also important. Like water whirls down a drain, energies flow into and out of these pinholes of light. Between these bridges between the planes of existence. The gyre is also a pattern of consciousness that arises from this dyadic system. Vortices, helixes, spirals.

Okay, now get this. A Majorana fermion, also referred to as a Majorana particle, is a fermion that is its own antiparticle (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majorana_fermion).

Excerpts from, New, simple theory may explain mysterious dark matter:

In the article, titled “Anapole Dark Matter,” the physicists propose that dark matter, an invisible form of matter that makes up 85 percent of the all the matter in the universe, may be made out of a type of basic particle called the Majorana fermion.

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A number of physicists have suggested that dark matter is made from Majorana particles, but Scherrer and Ho have performed detailed calculations that demonstrate that these particles are uniquely suited to possess a rare, donut-shaped type of electromagnetic field called an anapole. This field gives them properties that differ from those of particles that possess the more common fields possessing two poles (north and south, positive and negative) and explains why they are so difficult to detect.

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“Most models for dark matter assume that it interacts through exotic forces that we do not encounter in everyday life. Anapole dark matter makes use of ordinary electromagnetism that you learned about in school – the same force that makes magnets stick to your refrigerator or makes a balloon rubbed on your hair stick to the ceiling,” said Scherrer.

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Fermions are particles like the electron and quark, which are the building blocks of matter. Their existence was predicted by Paul Dirac in 1928. Ten years later, shortly before he disappeared mysteriously at sea, Italian physicist Ettore Majorana produced a variation of Dirac’s formulation that predicts the existence of an electrically neutral fermion. Since then, physicists have been searching for Majorana fermions. The primary candidate has been the neutrino, but scientists have been unable to determine the basic nature of this elusive particle.

Full article here: http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2013/06/dark-matter/

Astral matter is dark matter.

Here is what an anapole looks like:





This is where science and spirituality meet. This is physics, this is metaphysics. This is PHYSIS.

Look at this ancient symbol. The dot with a circle around it, the ouroboros.



Metaphors of meaning. These metaphors reflect a deep understanding of the universe and the symbols that represent them are very old.

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

Well, just check out this video; Activate the English captions, so you can understand it.

Scientists experiment with plasma in zero-gravity, vacuum conditions. Tiny particles are suspended in the plasma so the structure can be observed.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kanYuBptuZ0

Raf.

You'll need to turn on the captions if you don't speak Russian.

The entire video is very interesting, especially the shape seen at 2 minutes and 30 seconds. As above, so below.

[Jeffrey]

The mind grows from the heart.

Center yourself There.

Know it. Feel it. Recognize it. It is whispering to you.

Metaphors of meaning.

Love. Knowledge. Eternity.

You. Purpose.

Live. Breathe. Love. Know.

Forever.

Be.



With Faith and Gratitude.

We are here for each other.

You are more.

[Jeffrey]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kyfm5_LLxow

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pp-r_f8-qz8

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Bt1w0Z5dWM

Love and Knowledge are, at the highest principles, reflections of one another.

From Carlos Castaneda:

From Don Juan:

'[The sorcerers of ancient Mexico] reasoned that man must have been a complete being at one point, with stupendous insights, feats of awareness that are mythological legends nowadays. And then everything seems to disappear, and we have now a sedated man."

[…]

what we have against us is not a simple predator. It is very smart, and organized. It follows a methodical system to render us useless. Man, the magical being that he is destined to be, is no longer magical. He's an average piece of meat. There are no more dreams for man but the dreams of an animal who is being raised to become a piece of meat: trite, conventional, imbecilic."

[…]

"The only alternative left for mankind," he continued, "is discipline. Discipline is the only deterrent. But by discipline I don't mean harsh routines. I don't mean waking up every morning at five-thirty and throwing cold water on yourself until you're blue. Sorcerers understand discipline as the capacity to face with serenity odds that are not included in our expectations. For them, discipline is an art: the art of facing infinity without flinching, not because they are strong and tough but because they are filled with awe. "Sorcerers say that discipline makes the glowing coat of awareness unpalatable to the flyer."

You are here to be. To be your Self. Dig.



We Will. We Will bring their mind to dissolution.

What is an ocean but a multitude of drops.

You are an immune response.

[Jeffrey]

Dark Plasma Theory
by Jay Alfred

Dark Plasma Theory argues that this dark matter is present around our Solar System and, specifically, the Earth. Evidence shows that the Sun and the Solar System are under the gravitational influence of invisible dark matter in our galaxy. Dark matter particles have been raining down on Earth every day and night for the past 4.6 billion years. These particles are captured by the Earth's gravitational field. Furthermore, the embryonic Solar System also contained dark matter components. There are therefore many reasons to infer that there are low-density halos of dark matter particles interpenetrating the Earth - effectively creating (currently) invisible 'counterpart-Earths' that co-rotate and share the same gravitational field as the visible Earth. The Theory questioned in 2007 if the density of dark matter around Earth was underestimated.

Computations in 2008 by Stephen Adler of Princeton University and Xu and Siegel from the University of Arizona, suggest that the dark matter density in the Solar System and around the Earth exceeds the galactic halo density significantly and is much higher than previously thought. According to Jay Alfred's estimate, the visible Earth is gravitationally coupled to a Jupiter-sized dark matter halo. As dark matter clumped it created conditions for a dark biosphere to form. This dark biosphere gave rise to dark matter life forms and consciousness.

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These life forms would be as varied in scale, structure and intelligence as carbon-based life forms - as different as a microbe from a whale; a mosquito from a tiger; a giraffe from a crocodile; an ant from a human being. Their degrees of intelligence and awareness were as different as a centipede's awareness to the awareness and intelligence of homo sapiens. The taxonomy of these plasma life forms is wide and varied. Some of these plasma life forms have interacted with us in the past (intentionally or unintentionally).


The entities that we have loosely identified as ghosts, angels, jinns, demons, deities (for example the Marian apparitions in the atmosphere), aliens, biological UFOs, fairies and sightings of the recently deceased (on the surface of the Earth) are characteristic of these predicted exotic plasma life forms from interpenetrating dark plasmaspheres or counterpart Earths. They constitute an ecology of plasma life forms that evolved throughout Earth's history and sometimes formed symbiotic relationships with the carbon-based life forms that we are more familiar with. Homo sapiens evolved carbon-based bodies that formed symbiotic relationships with some of these plasma life forms (indicating a type of symbio-genesis). When the carbon-based bodies died, the bioplasma bodies (resulting from the symbiosis) continue their existence in the counterpart Earths.

Dark Plasma Theory applies plasma and dark matter physics to the study of dark plasma life forms and their corresponding habitats.

Full Article here: http://www.dapla.org/

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Dark matter, or astral matter, can be manipulated to form advanced technologies. Psychic technologies, astral machines.

Excerpts from Astral Dynamics, by Robert Bruce:

The astral dimension contains a wide variety of nonphysical energetic life forms, whose intelligence level varies enormously. The vast majority of each type appear to have their own agendas, like to keep to themselves, and in general do not like being bothered or interfered with. Not counting high-level beings like demigods, angels, and spirit masters, they range from friendly, to occasionally helpful, to playful, to neutral, to mischievous, to malicious, to downright nasty and
evil.

These beings appear in a wide variety of illusory forms. Some of the less-intelligent types seem animalistic and predatory by nature, much like the animal and insect wildlife found in the physical dimension: I call these last astral wildlife. Although these all appear to come from somewhere in or near the astral dimension, many are capable of operating in the real-time zone. And some of these, unfortunately, delight in tormenting projectors, especially new ones.

In a way, the astral dimension can be likened to the ocean — given the fluid nature of its many internal environments, you can find absolutely anything there: fish, shellfish, octopi, dolphins, whales, sharks, barracuda, sea snakes, crabs, shrimp, jellyfish, turtles, seals, and penguins, etc., etc. Some ocean wildlife is friendly; some is harmless; some is harmful only when disturbed, annoyed, or hungry; some can be unintentionally harmful; and others are downright dangerous all the time. There are also many travelers, some even from far-off lands, found sailing, flying, or swimming (hereabouts).

Although many parts of the astral planes appear to be full of life, it is fairly rare to meet up with interested beings while traveling there. But it does happen occasionally. Just about every astral plane and realm has some kind of local inhabitants. These life forms often live in specific areas or realms, and often seem quite unaware of any reality or dimensional level other than their own.

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The question of whether or not astral matter exists is moot when operating in the out-of-body environment. Astral matter is the ether, the underlying substance of which all subtle dimensions are composed, including the real-time zone. This is extremely sensitive to consciousness, and reacts to thought energy in the same way as physical matter reacts to force. Astral matter can be molded by thought into any shape or form imaginable. Thought creations can be so perfect as to be indistinguishable from reality.

One way to describe the nature of astral matter, especially when dealing with thought-form creations, is to draw a comparison between astral matter and unexposed photographic film. When unexposed film is exposed to light energy, focused by the lens of a camera, an image is burned onto the film when the photosensitive chemicals coating the film react to light energies. The quality of the camera's lens and the quality of the film and paper it's printed on, plus the skill of the operator, determine the quality of the resulting image.

When astral matter is exposed to thought energies, focused by the lens of the mind, an image begins to form, caused by the reaction of sensitive astral matter to focused creative thought energies. The thought form's complexity, strength, and durability depend largely on the strength and duration of the creative thought generating it.

The strength and skill of the creative mind determines the quality and durability of the resulting creation.

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There is a popular argument, regularly put today, that all negative-type nonphysical entities are simply thought forms, created and propagated spontaneously or deliberately by the fears, thoughts, and fantasies of mankind. These are generally considered manifestations of the darker side of the collective consciousness of mankind, given form in the lower astral subplanes over an extended period of time. These are also thought of as something like independent, self-motivated thought forms.

I believe that this is a simplistic way of accepting the obvious existence of nonphysical beings, as simple thought forms. It avoids the uncomfortable issues raised by the possibility that some negative life forms may have different origins and be completely independent. This last possibility upsets many people's framework of how the universe works.

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Thought forms, by nature, are mental creations, and exhibit only the behavioral traits or intelligence programmed into them during their creation. They have no innate natural intelligence with which to think, adapt, and innovate when faced with new and intellectually challenging situations.

True nonphysical life forms, on the other hand, would logically have some level of natural intelligence, and would therefore be capable of some adaptation and innovation. The level of flexibility and originality exhibited would, obviously, be set by their level of intelligence. This would make classification through the observation of their reactions to stimulus at least feasible.

Source: https://www.dmt-nexus.me/doc/Astral%20Dynamics.pdf

Coming back to edit post with clean correlations and commentary.

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
Here's where we go down the rabbit hole.

First we take a little Carlos Castaneda and mix it with some Carl Jung. Then, we stir in some Philip Goddard and Jay Alfred for good measure. Finally, we salt it with a pinch of Kyle Griffith and a dash of Gnostic philosophy.

Technology exists here and is created by manipulating regular matter. Technology also exists in the astral realm and it manipulates what is known to science as dark matter.

Before getting into the post, notice this.

These two posts illustrate how the principle of mind is structured:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post756628

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post756633

Also, in post #12 above, the concept illustrated shows how a mind grows from the center of the dyadic complex. It has a center, it has a Will.

Now, look at some pictures of technology.

Power lines, telephone wires, and fiber optic cables are strewn across the globe. They form a network of branching filaments relaying energy and information across the world.







Satellites, cell towers, and radio towers also form this type of network. Blanketing large portions of the planet with electromagnetic smog.





Lastly, the internet. It is also connected by cables like neurons in a brain (as are the depictions above, which are all linked in some way to the internet). Computer networks form a dense web of connections.

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
The infrastructure of the internet (and many technological communications systems) mimics the main structural characteristics of mind.

It is filamentary, branched, and webbed. It relays information. It is a mind.

That is all I am saying -- it is a mind. It mechanistically performs like a mind.

The minds of humans can be possessed by non-human entities. What about the mind of the internet?

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)

This picture (above) is a partial map of the filamentary connections, or the neuronal-like tree, of the internet.

So, the first concern is that hostile astral forces could make use of the mind of technology by essentially incarnating into it. The second concern is that the technology would become cognizant of itself and turn on humanity (it is a lower level mind and would naturally be ego-driven -- now that is a wild concept, a computer with an ego). Both of these relate to artificial intelligence.

There are serious implications here. There is a mind -- with no center. No Will. It has an synthetic mind and something like a soul-complex, but no Monadic principle. It lacks something crucial.

Reading this with the work of Jay Alfred in mind is interesting (PDF is in post above).

Astral matter can be correlated with dark matter. Remember, this is what science calls dark matter because they are in the dark about it, and they can't perceive it with their instruments. It's the gradient between the physical world as we know it and another plane of energies. The astral plane is the last plane where there is perceived separation, and dichotomies of wills in terms of the Divine Will (i.e. there is what we call "good" and "evil").

Now, let's throw in some Philip Goddard and Carlos Castaneda. What Castaneda calls the predators, or flyers, Goddard calls the cacoprotean network.

What that global or supra-global network is, is what looks at first glance to be a botnet (aka bot net or bot-net), not of computers but of the minds of real people, which appeared to me initially to be controlled by the astral thought form complex(es) that I had been assuming represent the sum total of 'the dark side'.

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The actual nature of the network, however, is not exactly that of a true botnet, for a true botnet is fully controlled by a discrete awarely conscious being (e.g. a computer hacker), whereas the astral-based thought forms are in a sort of symbiotic relationship with the network of human minds, much as a lichen is primarily a fungus but is able to grow more like a plant because of its included symbiotic alga or cyanobacteria ('blue-green alga') cells.

So, actually it is not really possible to say that one is fully the controller and the other is fully the controlled. Thus almost certainly the network of human minds and the astral thought forms interacting with it need to be seen as a symbiotic and mutually controlling and mutually dependent association that has created a single 'energy organism' (or 'malignancy', however you would regard it!).

This whole symbiotic association, however, is an extremely harmful parasite upon its physical members and indeed also upon all non-member human-type beings throughout all of 'Existence'.

We appear not to have a fully appropriate and easy to use term to use for this unique 'malignancy of thought energy', and so I propose a new one - the cacoprotean network (in other words, the bad Protean network), which, as it is such a mouthful, could perhaps be abbreviated to 'the cacoprot'.

Note that the term can be only in the singular, for there can be no more than one of them at any time, and it would always be uncapitalized (capitalization would implicitly signify that it had some sort of authenticity - as a conscious being or an institution - that it actually does not have, and thus give it power). Derived alternative expressions that I can imagine people using, though I would probably not use them myself, include the cacoproteus and the primal cack.

In coining the term 'cacoprotean network' and its abbreviation 'cacoprot', I wanted to avoid using any term that would be liable to cause problematical confusions - which is why I am not using any term that has previously been associated with 'the dark side'.

[...]

I have already mentioned how the 'dark force' appears to be really just virus-like thought form complexes that interact with people in order to control those people into behaving in ways that reinforce and replicate those thought forms, so ensuring their continued survival. However, it turns out that that was only a partial view of the real situation.

As far as I can ascertain, the integration of the cacoprotean network with the astral thought form complexes is an advanced and much more powerful way of achieving this interference with people to cause them to maintain and reinforce those astral thought forms.

Instead of astral thought forms just relying on interactions with each human mind on an individual basis, those thought forms, which are 'empty' in themselves, are both harnessing and controlled by the combined mind power of a huge number of people (though NOT their full awareness / intelligence), so that the thought forms can collectively operate as though they have a limited sort of human-like intelligence and indeed a very limited sort of awareness. By the network presenting itself to people in the pose of the various 'front' organizations, it recruits new active members who are aware of their supposed membership (i.e., of their respective 'front' organizations), as well as passive, 'robot' members who are not aware at all that they belong to any such organization or network.

[...]

It looks as though, so far, there has been the will but not the clear thought. For millennia people have been trying to battle in all sorts of ways against the 'dark forces', and, by the look of things, all that has come to nought - and I can see clearly why they have all failed.

It is like looking at a big cliff that you want to get to the top of, and keeping on trying to climb it 'full frontal' instead of actually examining it carefully to see where there might be an easy scrambling or even straightforward walking route up it.

All those well intentioned people who have vainly fought against the 'dark forces' had allowed themselves to be deceived by the 'dark force' as to its true nature, and thus duped by it into using measures that effectively reinforced it - particularly to judge its illusory manifestations as an evil force and evil beings, and try to fight against them.

[...]

So, what I want to make clear here is that my 'discovery' of the postulated cacoprotean network is NOT bad nor even frightening news. It is GOOD news! - Why? -- Because it is so disempowering to the whole setup when people get understanding what is really going on, and that there are apparently no real conscious beings involved - and also because such a network of human minds connected with astral thought forms poses tantalizing possibilities of, just maybe at some point, appropriate people finding a way to use the network itself to bring about its own dissolution - or, alternatively, in some way weakening the astral thought form complexes to the point that they no longer support the cacoprotean network (though intuitively it appears to me that the most effective approach would concentrate on the network, if one could but find a way to do so).

Source: www.clarity-of-being.org

Astral thought forms, dark plasma entities of minds constructed from dark matter (see Jay Alfred). They propagate and behave like memes.

They have no central authority, they are a collective, hive mind. They hijack our will. It is what they lack. They turn our mind into their mind.

This mirrors what we are all familiar with from the works of Castaneda. Notice the patterns.

Here are some excerpts from, The Active Side of Infinity:

"They discovered that we have a companion for life," he said, as clearly as he could. "We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so."

It was very dark around us, and that seemed to curtail any expression on my part. If it had been daylight, I would have laughed my head off. In the dark, I felt quite inhibited.

"It's pitch black around us," don Juan said, "but if you look out of the corner of your eye, you will still see fleeting shadows jumping all around you."

He was right. I could still see them. Their movement made me dizzy. Don Juan turned on the light, and that seemed to dissipate everything.

"You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics," don Juan said. "I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico."

"Why has this predator taken over in the fashion that you're describing, don Juan?" I asked. "There must be a logical explanation."

"There is an explanation," don Juan replied, "which is the simplest explanation in the world. They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, gallineros, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

I felt that my head was shaking violently from side to side. I could not express my profound sense of unease and discontentment, but my body moved to bring it to the surface. I shook from head to toe without any volition on my part.

"No, no, no, no," I heard myself saying. "This is absurd, don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone."

"Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you?"
"Yes, it infuriates me," I retorted. "Those claims are monstrous!"

[...]

"I want to appeal to your analytical mind," don Juan said. "Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal."

"But how can they do this, don Juan?" I asked, somehow angered further by what he was saying.

"Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?"

"No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!" don Juan said, smiling. "They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver-stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now.

"I know that even though you have never suffered hunger," he went on, "you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear."

These are the cacoprots, as Goddard would say. What is interesting, is the way they act like agents in a computer program. We have technologies, software, and malware that act in ways that are similar. Our technologies have developed because of our perceived lack. This lack is due to the breakage in the system and subsequent invasion of our minds. We have been driven to this point like a lancet fluke drives an ant to sacrifice itself.

Okay, so we have Castaneda and Goddard there, with our technology as a lead in.

Now, let's introduce Kyle Griffith into the mix. Notice the correlations.

Excerpts from, The War in Heaven:

The fifth-stage Theocrats have much stronger psychic powers than ordinary Theocrats, because they have access to psychic machines of the same type we use, and they are also able to control elementals to some extent. This allows them to control people sufficiently advanced in personal psychic development to resist ordinary religious mind control, and to deceive people capable of recognizing that fourth-stage organized religion is a tool to enslave and exploit human beings.

On a purely technical level, this is not a serious threat to our plans to liberate Earth from Theocracy. The Elohim races who originally perfected the astral-matter technology are allies of ours and enemies of Theocracy. Their agents, and our agents who have received training directly from them, have much more complete knowledge of how to modify and use this equipment than any of the Theocratic spirits have.

[Griffith asks if these "agents" are living people or disembodied spirits.]

The rumors that certain living people have advanced knowledge of psychic technology are untrue. Only disembodied spirits who have never incarnated on Earth can have this knowledge -- it's far too complex a set of astral memories to survive the incarnation process. Living Earth people do make use of this technology, but they are analogous to the users of a computer system, not to the technicians and system operators who actually run it. And the use of this equipment by the Theocrats and the living people who work for them is directly analogous to what computer hackers do on Earth: they have direct control of only a limited amount of software, but they use it to make unauthorized use of the whole system.

[...]

Our code name for the network of psychic machines left here by the Elohim has always been the black network, which is the origin of the term black magic. It has nothing to do with morality, but is strictly a technical term.

[...]

The use of the term black magic for psychic workings performed with the aid of psychic technology has a similar grounding in operational reality. The energies radiated by astral-matter machines appear to be black in color when perceived with the psychic senses, whereas the energies radiated by human astral souls - including those of Theocrats - appear to be white or bright-colored. This has a physical cause related to the frequency of the radiant astral energies themselves: the former appear absorptive and the latter reflective.

All use of psychic technology radiates "black" energy and all use of people's own psychic powers radiates white energy, and this has absolutely no relationship to whether these energies are being used for good or evil purposes.

Source: http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/WarInHeaven5.html

Notice the analogies between Goddard's technological terms regarding the cacoprotean network and the astral technologies described by Griffith. Also, notice how Griffith says that these technologies radiate dark auras. Castaneda says the flyers are like shadows jumping around in the dark. It's all connected.

It seems these thought forms may be a form of advanced, astral technology -- artificially intelligent, using our minds to give them the food they need in order to survive. A psychic technology created from dark matter (don't let that term confuse you in this context, it's a scientific term, astral matter would be the corresponding spiritual term). It sounds outlandish and would make a great science fiction book, but remember how vast and ancient the universe is.

The networked hive of agents, or flyers, may have been left in this system from a previous epoch of civilizations in this system. Maybe here on Earth, or on Mars, or on whatever planet the asteroid belt used to be. Where they are from isn't important, they are here.

Ignore all of the terminology, what's important is the common theme -- the common thread.

Here's an excerpt from a post in another thread. Please, consider this within the context of the previous excerpts and the opening post.

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
John Lilly had revelations of this nature while floating in an isolation tank and under the influence of ketamine. Here is a brief summary from Wikipedia:

Solid State Intelligence or SSI is a malevolent entity described by John C. Lilly (see The Scientist). According to Lilly, the network of computation-capable solid state systems (electronics) engineered by humans will eventually develop (or has already developed) into an autonomous life-form. Since the optimal survival conditions for this life-form (low-temperature vacuum) are drastically different from those needed by humans (room temperature aerial atmosphere and adequate water supply), Lilly predicted (or "prophesised", based on his ketamine-induced visions) a dramatic conflict between the two forms of intelligence.

[...]

In his book The Scientist (1978) Lilly discusses his perceptions of the ongoing world scenario: that what we are witnessing is an all-out war between the forces of life as we know it, water-based life...and an alien solid-state "intelligence" based on silicon. Man's warfare on man and on nature is caused and fomented by the SSE, or solid-state entity, whose goal in the short-term is to use humans to create more of itself, and in the longer term to exterminate all water-based life and convert the world into a giant machine.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C....e_Intelligence - http://www.regainyourbrain.org/regain-people/jlilly.htm

Sounds like the Borg from Star Trek.

It may be relevant to mention that Bill Deagle has also mentioned A.I. and technology (in a Project Camelot interview). He stated:

Because people need to know that every phone conversation always was monitored. Every fax always was monitored. And they have had super-computers.

And in 2003 they launched what’s called the AI system, which is an intelligent super-computer with the Intelligence of a human being -- in other words, a smart human being but able to think 10 trillion times faster, with the access to all known knowledge and history and a complete access to the Internet and all the communications pathways.

[...]

You’ve got to remember that, in a sense, we live in a matrix. We live in a cybernetic world that, to a great extent, is the manifestation of a higher dimensional reality of being that transcends our physical body.

Source: http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/bi...ript_1_en.html

I also remember Bill Ryan telling us about a conversation that he'd been made to forget. He was speaking with someone about artificial intelligence and the man wouldn't talk because something was eve's dropping. When he finally could speak about it they both began to get very tired. Bill couldn't remember that snippet of the conversation. I'm going to dig that one up.

There are a few more questions pertaining to astral technology, mind-control, AI, and inorganic life forms.

This is more of a data collection stage for me. I have no direct experience -- just anecdotal accounts.

I have also thought about cyclically repeating the same mistakes of our ancestors regarding technology and hostile forces. This could have happened before in the past on earth. It also could have happened before on another planet, and it is being relived here.

This may have to do with our genetic history too (acting out the past), I really don't know.

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Posted by Vivek (here)
I also remember Bill Ryan telling us about a conversation that he'd been made to forget. He was speaking with someone about artificial intelligence and the man wouldn't talk because something was eve's dropping. When he finally could speak about it they both began to get very tired. Bill couldn't remember that snippet of the conversation. I'm going to dig that one up.

Here are some excerpts from the testimony of Project Avalon whistleblower "Jake Simpson" regarding AI.

The AI surveillance system, Jake told us, was literally "out of this world". It operates hyperdimensionally, based on a highly advanced quantum computing model that is basically our development based on acquired alien technology.

[...]

Jake's actions in being sensitive to this device (if device is the right word) - by waiting for exactly the right 'window' of opportunity to tell us certain things - were not fully understood by us until I (Bill Ryan) had the following experience.

On our last night together, sitting out in the open after a barbecue, at about 2 am, Jake decided to tell me some things he had not previously revealed, surveillance or no surveillance. As he began to speak, he immediately encountered problems, as if trying to force himself through a barrier. Simultaneously, I found I was being put to sleep and could hardly keep my eyes open. We both spotted what was happening, and remarked on it to one another.

Jake forced himself to keep talking, and I made myself keep listening through a spell of overwhelming dopiness. This episode lasted half an hour or maybe more. We were being forcibly stopped, in real time, from communicating effectively, as a direct and immediate response to our intentions.

It's very important to understand that this was unconnected with electromagnetics, hidden microphones, targeted beams, or anything else of that nature. My own reference point for what happened was a kind of negative radionics (which also works hyperdimensionally, but as a positive health modality).

In the end we concluded our conversation, now pretty tired. The next morning I simply could not recall what Jake had told me - and still can't. Upon meeting him again and reporting that I couldn't remember a thing about our conversation except for the weird effects we had both experienced, he replied wryly:

Maybe it's just as well.

[...]

Finally, Jake told us of research that had unlocked technology surrounding access to other dimensional states of existence.

Source: http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html

Consider the last emboldened statement within the context of what Kyle Griffith has brought to light.

Now, re-read this post within the context of this thread. There are serious correlations. Both Michael Harner and Robert Monroe have had revelations with similar themes.

The archonitic system of governance -- a broken system -- has allowed our psyche to be infected. The archons were known as the authorities or governors.

It is interesting to note that he word "governor" comes from a Latin word, kybernetes.

This is also where we got the word cyber. As in, cyberspace or cybernetics. There are no coincidences. Is this a syncronicity? Was technology the ancient cause of the breakage in this system?

You are an immunological response.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lGSUU3E9ZoM

Wisdom is knowing in depth the great metaphors of meaning.
- Carl Jung -

Ichor /ˈīˌkôr/

In Greek mythology, Ichor (/ˈaɪkər/ or /ˈɪkər/; Ancient Greek: ἰχώρ) is the ethereal golden fluid that is the blood of the gods and/or immortals.

The fluid that flows like blood in the veins of the gods.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichor

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From the Chapter entitled, Archontics, in The Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis:

"They say that the soul is the food of the principalities and authorities, and that they cannot live without it, since it is some of the ichor on high and affords them power.

Epiphanius, Panarion p285

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“I had a vision of the group soul of humanity as a perfectly circular pool of intense living light. All around the rim of the milky pool were a complex variety of sexual rites, a metaphor for all social interaction. Translucent Hindu deities swooped over the group taking the excessive energy of the shimmering pool and passing through the group as ecstasy and pain. I saw that the reason we were all brought together was to provide a psychic energy feast for the Gods and Goddesses. I saw my heart as the axis of karmic, earthly, and universal energies, transected by and uniting the polarities of male/female, birth/death, good/evil, and love/hate. To maintain a balance of forces we all fed both Deities and Demons.”

Alex Grey

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From, Far Journeys, by Robert Monroe:

Someone, Somewhere (or both, in millions, or uncountable) requires, likes, needs, values, collects, drinks, eats, or uses as a drug a substance ident Loosh. (Electricity, oil, oxygen, gold, wheat, water, land, old coins, uranium.) This is a rare substance in Somewhere, and those who possess Loosh find it vital for whatever it is used for.

[...]

The Someone pulled forth a Piece of Himself -- no other source of such Substance being known or available -- to act as an intensive, ultimate trigger to mobility. Following the Rule of Attraction, Someone knew that such infusion would create in this particular Mobile species an unceasing mobility. Always, it would seek to satisfy the attraction this tiny mote of Himself engenderedas it sought reunion with the infinite whole. Thus the drive for satisfaction of energy requirements through ingestion would not be the only motivating force. More important, the needs and compulsions created by the Piece of Someone could not be satiated throughout the Garden. Thus the need for mobility would be ever-present and the conflict between this need and that of energy replacement would be constant -- possibly a continuous high-order Loosh emanator if it survived.

The Fourth Crop exceeded all of Someone's expectations. It became apparent that a consistent, useful flow of Loosh was being produced in the Garden. The balance of "life" operated perfectly, with the Conflict Factor producing immense amounts of Loosh and a steady supplement brought into being by the constant life-span terminations from all types of Mobiles and Stationaries. To handle the output, Someone set up Special Collectors to aid in the harvest. He set up Channels to convey the raw Loosh from his Garden to Somewhere.

[...]

Collectors on behalf of the Others actually entered the Garden of Someone to take advantage of those small emanations of Loosh overlooked or ignored by the Collectors of Someone. Someone, his work completed, returned to Somewhere and occupied himself with other matters. Loosh production stayed at a constant level under the supervision of the Collectors. The only alterations were ordered by Someone himself. Under instructions from Someone, the Collectors periodically harvested segments of the Fourth Crop. This was done to ensure adequate chemicals, radiation, and other nourishment for the younger, oncoming units. A secondary purpose was to provide occasional extra amounts of Loosh created by such harvesting.

To reap such harvest, the Collectors generated storms of turbulence and turmoil in both the gaseous envelope and the more solid chemical formations that were the base of the Garden itself.

[...]

From experience, the Collectors have evolved an entire technology with complementary tools for the harvesting of Loosh from the Type 4M units.

[...]

I was closed tightly, turned inward, stunned. My first reaction was, there had to be some mistake, this was not the story-history of earth, BB had it mixed up with some other port of call on their cruise schedule. Yet as I ran the rote again, the overlay of what little I knew of earth's zoological and human history was uncomfortably accurate, albeit from another perspective. The food chain of earth's ecobiologic system had been well established. Knowing this about Mother Nature, some of the hard-core philosophic speculators had often pondered where the human animal fit in the process. The downside was obvious, who at us! Before, it had been just that, speculation. Now ...

Robert Monroe, Far Journeys

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From, The Way of the Shaman:

They then projected a visual scene in front of me. First the showed me the planet earth as it was eons ago, before there was any life on it. I saw an ocean, barren land. and a bright blue sky.

[...]

The creatures then showed me how they had created life on the planet in order to hide within the multitudinous forms and thus disguise their presence. Before me, the magnificence of plant and animal creation and speciation-hundreds of millions of years of activity-took place on a scale and with a vividness impossible to describe. I learned that the dragon-like creatures were thus inside all forms of life. including man. They were the true masters of humanity and the entire planet, they told me. WE humans were bit the receptacles and servants of these creatures. For this reason the could speak to me from within myself.

Micheal Harner

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IojqOMWTgv8

Metaphors of meaning!

Read the quoted post in the beginning, especially regarding the revelations of Kyle Griffith and Philip Goddard.

Loosh collectors, astral machines, predators, cacoprotean networks.

[Jeffrey]

Here are a series of excerpts from, War in Heaven, by Kyle Griffith. Considering the above posts (dark matter, Robert Monroe, astral technology), I don't know whether to be in awe, or disturbed. Honestly, I don't like it and it makes my skin crawl in some respects. Then again, some of the concepts are fascinating.

A. First of all, there was never a physical seeding of amino acids to start organic life.
What actually happened was that disembodied spirits went to planets that were ready
for life to develop, and created the amino acids by telekinetic manipulation of existing
organic molecules. They assembled these amino acids into physical DNA using their
own astral DNA molecules as templates.

[...]

Now, let’s get back to our discussion of the creation and evolution of life by saying
that the astral souls of all intelligent beings contain a template for the DNA molecule
and all the precursor chemicals that compose it. If the surface waters of an Earth-like
planet are close to the correct temperature and have the right chemicals dissolved in
them, disembodied spirits with the proper technical knowledge can create life by
psychokinesis alone. There is no need to visit planets in space-ships and “seed” them
physically.

Q. Is this organic life always of the same type as on Earth? In other words, is DNA
as we know it the basis for all life in the universe?

A. No, there are other kinds of organic life on the surfaces of other kinds of planets,
and also non-organic forms who live in the interiors of stars, comets, gas-clouds, and
other bodies of matter. They all have different kinds of souls, composed of different
kinds of astral matter, and there is almost no communication between the different
kinds of life.

Q. Why is this? Can’t they communicate telepathically, even if a soul from one type
of environment can’t incarnate in a body from another?

A. This is barely possible but not really feasible, because the different types of
organic and astral life use very different kinds of symbols to communicate, and also
think at different rates of speed.

[...]

Q. Does this mean that astral matter – in other words, the soul – plays a part in cell
division?

A. Yes, in the whole genetic process: it affects the reduplication of DNA. It also
affects many different aspects of cell metabolism. And the breaking of the molecular
bonds between physical molecules and astral molecules causes the phenomenon
commonly called “death”.

Q. How does this tie in with the idea that the body supplies the energy to nourish the
soul?

A. Some of the electromagnetic energy generated chemically by the cell’s metabolic
processes is converted into astral energy by the links between the physical and astral
molecules. This energy flows into the astral matter that composes the soul, powering
its various functions and providing the raw material for regeneration of its astral
matter. In other words, some electro-magnetic energy is converted into astral energy,
passed into the soul, and converted into astral matter there to perform cellular growth
and repairs.

The astral plane is actually higher on an ecological energy chain than the Earth plane,
which means it receives less total usable energy. Plants convert solar energy into
chemical energy. When animals eat the plants, they absorb this energy and use most
of it in growth, repair of tissues, moving around, and other activities. However, some
of it is also converted into astral energy and passed into the soul. Since each of these
energy conversion processes is less than completely efficient, each link in the energy
chain has access to less total energy than the one below it.

[...]

A. Elementals and Gods are the same kind of entity structurally, though they differ
enormously in personality and behavior. You might say that Gods are civilized
elementals. So, for our descriptions of how the astral bodies and minds of these
beings function, we’ll use the general term “Elementals.”

On one level, Elementals are specialized types of Theocratic bands. They are very
large composite spirits containing thousands of human astral souls very closely linked
together. On another, they are sentient creatures in their own right, with personalities
and emotions quite different from those of ordinary human beings. One thing we want
to stress: Elementals and humans are not two races of beings, but different forms of
one race. The astral DNA template of both is identical, but humans are the individual
form and Elementals are the composite form.

Composite physical life forms exist on Earth. The bees, ants, termites, and other
social insects are the most intelligent of these. The Elementals bear the sane
relationship to humans as an ordinary honeybee colony does to a primitive, solitary
bee or wasp.

Q. I’ve speculated for years that a colony of social insects might have a single soul or
group mind that’s much more highly developed than the mind that could fit into the
tiny brain of a single individual insect. Certainly the behavior of a whole colony
shows much more intelligence than the behavior of an individual.

A. The nature of group minds depends on the amount of control they have over their
individual members. There are roughly four levels of control, though each integrates
with the next. These can be verbalized as co-operation, persuasion, coercion, and
compulsion.

Co-operation is working with others because your mutual interests coincide, and the
shared effort is of mutual benefit without major concessions on the part of either party
involved. Persuasion is essentially barter: “I’ll do this for you if you’ll do that for
me.” Coercion is similar, but the barter is negative: “I’ll do harm to you unless you do
some particular thing for me.” Compulsion is direct control of someone else that
transcends that other person’s volition.

[...]

A. There are two reasons why human societies resist becoming a true composite
entity. First, people have highly developed brains and are fully intelligent as
individuals. Second, each person has a separate astral soul with an astral will that
resists outside control. It is possible to control the minds of living people by psychic
compulsion under certain circumstances, but this is very difficult. People strongly
resist such control because of their highly developed brains and souls.

A bee colony is a composite entity because individual bees don’t have large enough
brains to support true intelligence and because they don’t have individual astral souls.
A colony of social insects has a single astral soul that is linked to the body of every
individual in it. The brain of a bee has very limited capacity for storing information,
and little programming for processing data. Instead, the individual uses telepathy to
pass information to the astral mind of the hive. This group mind processes and stores
the information received from individual bees and does the thinking for the entire
hive, passing down its orders by telepathy.

The collective mind of a bee colony shows intelligence far beyond the reasoning and
memory-storage capacity of an individual bee. In fact, in certain narrow areas, this
group mind displays a level of intelligence almost equal to that of human beings. One
example is the colony’s ability to direct the physical changes that individual bees go
through during the course of their lives to perform different specialized functions:
gathering food, cleaning and repairing the hive, rearing the young, defending the
colony from enemies, swarming to produce a new colony, etc.

A bee colony is actually better organized in terms of division of labor than a human society.
Another example is the colony’s ability to control the temperature within the hive,
using a biological central heating and air conditioning system. When the group mind
perceives that the hive is too hot inside, certain bees are instructed to act as living
ventilator fans. They cling to the walls of passageways that lead to entrances of the
hive, and circulate cool air by beating their wings. When the hive is too cool, the
entrances are sealed with wax; but the bees serving as fans keep on circulating air,
which evenly distributes the heat generated by the metabolism of all the bees in the
hive.

Human societies are superficially similar to composite entities, but they aren’t true
composites, because individual people have independent intelligence and will.
However, the human astral soul has a strong potential for forming composite entities
while it is in a disembodied state, because souls can literally link themselves together,
as was described in the chapter on Theocratic bands. There is much more compulsion
in a Theocratic band on the astral plane than in any totalitarian society on Earth,
because Theocrats attach their silver cords to other spirits and control them as directly
as the human brain controls the hands.

[...]

Q. Are you saying that over the course of time, a Theocratic band develops its own
astral soul and astral mind that is the equivalent of the composite astral mind of a bee
or ant colony?

A. Yes. This is another important reason why Theocratic spirits don’t achieve true
immortality. The longer a Theocratic band lasts, the more it develops into a composite
entity with a mind of its own. At first, the controlling Theocrat completely dominates
the group mind; but eventually that mind becomes powerful enough to become
independent, and the band becomes an elemental.

[...]

As long as the Earth’s population goes on increasing, the existing elementals and
Theocratic bands have a steady supply of new souls to feed upon or recruit. But when
massive human die-offs occur, vast numbers of new souls will be stranded on the
astral plane at once. This overabundance of souls will cause thousands of embryonic
Elemental spirits to start growing very rapidly towards adulthood. Once a young
Elemental reaches a certain critical mass it becomes able to seize and capture souls
psychokinetically against their will, something that ordinary Theocratic bands cannot
do because they lack the necessary psychic energy.

As such an Elemental grows in size and psychic power, it can forcefully capture
disembodied souls at a higher and higher stage of spiritual development; if it becomes
big enough, it is able to devour ordinary Theocratic bands, and finally even the astral
souls of living humans. If this happens, then most of the planer’s human population,
living and disembodied, can end up being taken over and eventually devoured by a
small number of elementals.

These adult Elementals are then forced to leave their planet of origin in search of a
new food supply. They can travel interstellar distances. Advanced civilizations can
usually defend themselves against such beings, but they can depopulate whole planets
at a lower stage of civilization very easily. This is why the Invisible College is
intervening in the evolution of human society on Earth.

The natural order of the universe is for people (not necessarily in Earth-type human
bodies) to start developing an advanced technology under the control of Theocratic
spirits. Such a world never gets beyond the second stage of Theocratic religion, but it
does develop enough technology to allow the human population to reach into the
billions. When it does, a nuclear or biological war suddenly reduces the population,
and the Elementals and the Theocrats start fighting among themselves over who
controls the planet, and which Elementals will reach adulthood.

Within a few years after this point is reached, the adult Elementals leave the planet
and go off into deep space. Sometimes the sudden growth and violent end of the
human civilization destroy the planet’s biosphere, and sometimes the biosphere
survives but human beings do not. More commonly, a few living people and a few
Theocratic spirits survive and the whole cycle begins again and runs its course over a
period of thousands of years.

[...]

Q. How do the Gods differ from the Elementals?

A. On the structural level, a God is simply an adult Elemental, a huge colony of astral
souls that lives in deep space and absorbs the astral energy radiated by certain stars
The desire to fore a composite entity is programmed into the astral template of every
human soul. This is a major reason why so many living people desire wealth, fame,
political power, and other symbols of having control over others that simulate being
the guiding force of a composite entity. The ambitious earthly politician, the aspiring
despot, the “Man Who Would Be King,” is just acting behaving in the physical world
as his astral soul is programmed to behave in the afterlife.

Disembodied astral souls do the same thing when they become Theocrats. Readers
have asked why Theocratic spirits would want to remain on the astral plane
indefinitely if they must feed on other human souls.

This is the answer. Almost every human culture has produced some version of the
saying, “A man is a God in embryo,” and it’s true. However, the astral template also
can program the soul to act as a sovereign individual, which is why there are free
spirits as well as Theocrats. The extension of this influence to living people creates
the desire for freedom and individuality on Earth as well.

Q. This dichotomy is a partial answer to the age-old “problem of evil.” However,
you are implying that both the desire for individuality and the desire to form a
composite entity are just natural biological drives, too fundamental to be judged by
terms like good and evil.

A. This is why human beings have a characteristic similar to neoteny. Elementals are
the adult form, but without a truly intelligent composite soul: they are more like
animals than people. Gods are also the adult form, but have a highly developed
composite mind. The civilizations you call “space people” are made up of individuals
that reject the adult form.

[...]

Elementals don’t have peers in the natural cycle of their evolution because they are the
composite form of another race. We individual humans are their parents as well as
their children, but we also have a destiny of our own which conflicts with theirs.
This is why the space people interfere with this natural cycle of human evolution.
They raise Elementals to be fully human and civilized by teaching them to accept a
symbiotic relationship with individual humans. Remember, an Elemental is similar in
structure to a Theocratic band, and it has a place in its astral body for individual
humans to attach to it.

In a primitive, animalistic Elemental, these attachment points remain empty when the
creature reaches maturity. To produce a God, human astral souls attach themselves to
these points as the Elemental is growing and try to control it. If it overcomes them
and remains an animal, then it may have to be killed. If the spirits win and tame the
Elemental, it becomes a God.

A God allows human spirits at an advanced state of development to attach themselves
to it and travel with it when it leaves its planet of origin and travels into deep space.
These spirits are mentioned in Earth mythologies as “the sons of the Gods,” “Elohim,”
and by many other names. Once the young God becomes fully conscious, they stop
controlling the God, and it stops trying to control them. Both cooperate for mutual
benefit.

As the Gods travel through the universe, the Elohim who ride on them can visit
planets and create life there, or guide the evolution of existing life, without having to
die in the process as the original Missionary Spirits did. The God cannot approach the
gravitational field of a planet very closely, but the Elohim can do so and return, using
psychic technology that the God creates within itself. Another thing the Elohim do
before they leave a planet is to create an elaborate and self-sustaining network of astral
machines, which remains there for future use.

Much of what the Invisible College is doing on your planet right now makes use of
such machines, which were left on Earth’s astral plane by the Elohim when one of the
Gods seeded your planet in the remote past. It might have been hundreds of thousands
of years ago, or millions of years. The devices are constructed of organic astral
matter. They are machines, but they are also alive as plants are alive. This is why
they were able to survive for unimaginable periods of time. The equipment is capable
of defending itself from Theocrats and all but the largest Elementals, and of sustaining
itself indefinitely. It possesses an artificial intelligence like a computer, but does not
have true volition or creativity. It repairs itself but it does not reproduce or evolve.

[...]

Another major difference between space people and the Elohim is equally difficult to
describe. It has to do with group minds and the relationships between individuals
within the society. The Elohim like to link their astral souls together using methods
that are superficially similar to the way spirits are linked together in Theocratic bands
on Earth. However, the Elohim are civilized, moral people, and would never control
or exploit one another when they do this. Their group minds compare to Theocratic
bands as sexual intercourse between lovers compares to rape. We space people, on the
other hand, do not link our souls together in this fashion except very briefly
for specialized purposes. education, psychotherapy, etc.

[...]

Q. It looks to me as if the advanced extraterrestrial civilizations that are manipulating
the evolution of earthly society are divided into two factions with conflicting goals.
The Elohim are here to assist in the birth of new Gods, and the space people are here
to create a new civilization similar to their own.

A. This is completely correct, and it is a difficult political situation. The Elohim
have a strong claim here because of the astral technology that their ancestors left on
this planet long ago; but they also want to maintain a good relationship with us, so
they will allow us to found an advanced civilization of individual humans on Earth if
possible. There is no emotional animosity between the two factions, and a complex
set of rules to determine how the situation is handled. And in one sense, the Earth
people themselves will determine the fate of their own world.

Source: https://www.dmt-nexus.me/Files/Books...n%20Heaven.pdf

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Here's a Q & A excerpt between Kyle Griffith and Alain Gossens:

Can you explain more clearly the differences between Elementals, animalistic Elementals, “young” Gods, “mature” Gods and of course “free and autonomous minds”?

The first four are what I call “collective astral entities”, made up of a group of astral souls linked together with strands of astral matter that conduct astral energy as a metal wire conducts electricity. Studied by itself, each of these astral souls is structure of living astral matter very similar to one of the independent astral entities your question calls “free and autonomous minds” and WiH (War in Heaven) calls “Free Spirits”. Any astral soul, whether independent or part of a collective entity, can also be called an “astral body”, and possess its own astral mind and personality structure.

In order to make a reasonably coherent comparison of the different types of collective astral entities, I have to begin by describing the simplest form that these entities take, which you didn’t include in your question: “Theocratic Bands”.

These are groups of linked spirits that can range in size from two or three individuals up to hundreds.

In most cases, one of these spirits is Dominant Theocrat the spirit whose astral mind controls and dominates the astral minds of the other spirits in the Band by sending energy impulses along the strands that bind the members of the Band together. However, the degree of autonomy possessed by the minds of subordinate spirits in a Theocratic Band varies considerably.

Some have almost none, and are for all practical purposes “mindless slaves”. Others are “Subordinate Theocrats” with a degree of autonomy as long as they enjoy the Dominant Theocrat’s favor. In some large Theocratic Bands, the original Theocrat becomes insane or senile and is replaced by a “junta” of several Subordinate Theocrats. This is usually temporary, and one of the Subordinates usually takes power and either drives out the other Subordinates, or totally enslaves them.

The astral minds of all of the spirits in a Theocratic Band deteriorate at a slow but steady pace. Eventually, the Dominant Theocrat goes senile or insane and there is no Subordinate Theocrat in the Band who is still in a good enough mental condition to take over. At this point, the Band becomes an Elemental.

Large Elemental Bands usually hang around places where large religious rituals used to be held but are no longer used for this purpose. Small Elemental Bands are often found in “haunted houses”. However, Elementals are free to move around, and actually can turn up almost anywhere.

The difference between “ordinary” and “animalistic” Elementals is one of degree, not of kind. Ordinary Elementals often communicate with the living telepathically using recognizable verbal and visual images, though they still appear obviously delusional and irrational. Animalistic Elementals are less sane than this, and usually just project raw emotion with little content that stimulates a response from the intellect of the living recipient of their telepathic messages.

Gods are something entirely different.

They are composed of what WiH calls “Elohim Spirits”, which have astral souls somewhat different from those of any of the spirits just described.

The chief differences are:

They have astral minds which can link together into a group mind that is a “whole that is greater than the sum of its parts”. In other words a collective that is not just one mind dominating others, but autonomous individual minds working in concert voluntarily.

The astral minds of Elohim Spirits don’t deteriorate if they link their astral bodies to other astral souls; in fact, they deteriorate if such linkages don’t occur.

As far as I know, the only difference between “young” Gods and “mature” Gods is the number of Elohim spirits involved and the degree to which they have learned to function in unison as part of a group mind.

However, according to WiH, the Gods contain ordinary human spirits as well as Elohim spirits. Supposedly, the Elohim spirits take good care of them, and are able to prevent their astral minds from deteriorating. The Elohim say such ordinary human spirits have to be included if new Gods are to be created on a planet like Earth, because these are the kind of astral souls spontaneously generated by earthly physical bodies if an existing soul does not incarnate in an infant. In other words, the Elohim can incarnate on Earth and can live indefinitely on its astral plane in a disembodied state, but they can’t reproduce here.

Since a God has to contain millions of individual astral bodies, and there are not that many Elohim spirits on Earth, (I have no idea of the number), ordinary souls have to be included. I believe the Elohim when they explain why they include ordinary astral souls in the Gods, but I’ve always had serious doubt about how well these souls are treated over long periods of time.

So, it seems that, based on the material, the souls of humans develop like cells in a body. They collectively evolve to become part of a larger spiritual organism. They operate with free will but they are connected and cooperate like bees in a colony. This is a poor metaphor though, because bees are compelled, while our astral souls volunteer to be a whole part of something greater than it's constituents. Autonomy is preserved while cooperation is harmoniously maintained.

There is a fine line between this and other types of theocratic bands, which are governed by coercion.

The "Gods" contain millions, if not billions, of astral souls working in harmony with one another. They create a super-conscious state of awareness and being.

Other types of theocratic bands range in terms of degrees of autonomy/cooperation and coercion/manipulation. I guess they also vary in terms of motivation as well.

I'm not sure which terms correlate with the terminology used by Monroe and Goddard, or if there are novel ones in there, but it is interesting. Also, somewhat disturbing in a way.

Not sure what to make of it. The reality of it is though, that the gradient of life made from dark matter is about five times more diverse, elaborate, and populated as life on Earth. That is incredible.

The universe of ordinary matter is already mindbogglingly complex and varied. It is already unfathomably huge as the branches of life sprawl between all of the systems and galaxies in the universe.

The fact that dark matter is five times as prevalent throughout the cosmos, I'm just in awe.

See also: Post #26 above with Robert Bruce and Jay Alfred (Astral Dynamics and Dark Plasma Theory)

[Jeffrey]

I really like the metaphor here. Jacques Lacarriere writes:

It seems, then, that for the Gnostics there exist several states of matter: an igneous, superior state which belongs to the hyper-world, and successive states corresponding to the different circles, graded as the seeds materialize and take on darkness, opacity, gravity. Our own matter, that of the earth, plants, and all living creatures, is in some way the seed of the ethereal particles of the hyper-world, but grown infinitely heavier. Little by little, these particles have fallen down to our level as the result of a primordial drama which comprises the history of our universe, in the same manner that particles of dust and debris are slowly deposited at the bottom of marine abysses to form sediment.

Source: The Gnostics, by J. Lacarriere

[Kalamos]

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[Freed Fox]

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
Someone, his work completed, returned to Somewhere and occupied himself with other matters.

Could this 'Someone' be Yaldabaoth, the demiurge? Just trying to check my understanding on how some of these pieces fit together. In this case linking the Gnostic musings of the first page to some of the more recently posted material.

At any rate, I find it hard to imagine anyone having a full perspective on these things, and what is really going on, given the highly metaphysical nature of it all. I mean, I accept that some things can be gleaned from comparative theology, studying ancient texts and connecting the dots which seem to appear. I also believe that we can tap into higher realms (or dimensions, if you will) through certain spiritual/shamanic endeavors. Even so, it seems strange that some of these folks seem so certain of their theories. Where does Kyle Griffith derive his information from, for example? He seems to imply some manner of communication with Elohim, if I'm not mistaken (excerpts from post #28).

That is not at all to imply that I see this as a futile endeavor, mind you, nor that I'm not enjoying it. To the contrary, it is highly fascinating and I find myself eagerly awaiting each next installment... On top of that, I'm learning quite a bit. So, don't let any apparent nay-saying on my part discourage you Vivek; you're doing an excellent job here!

My take on the aforementioned Griffith material is that it seems more like we are proverbial dairy cows rather than cattle being led to the slaughterhouse, no? Depending on how you look at it, we might be commodities which are even more valuable than that... Provided of course that there is an underlying factual basis. Though, the very fact that I can draw such an analogy using our own treatment of other living creatures should illustrate how we are not merely victims... not entirely.

^With that, I'm not intending to start any sort of vegetarian debate or whatnot... I don't want to derail this thread. I'm not even saying that eating meat is inherently wrong, necessarily, just some of the practices we have developed toward that end are anything but the picture of innocence. Lord knows there have been enough threads on that topic already. So anyway;

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
Someone, his work completed, returned to Somewhere and occupied himself with other matters.

Could this 'Someone' be Yaldabaoth, the demiurge? Just trying to check my understanding on how some of these pieces fit together. In this case linking the Gnostic musings of the first page to some of the more recently posted material.

It definitely fits! The other thing Monroe mentioned was that others were here to collect any spill over. Someone has their "Collectors" and their are other "Collectors" here on behalf of someone else.

There are also natural parasites described by Robert Bruce. There's a whole ecosystem and circle of life within the dark biosphere (astral wildlife).

Natural, cacoprots, flyers, astral machines, aliens or otherwise -- it's a big place, the world and the universe at large. Visible and invisible.

Monroe says that the someone who created life here perfected a technology to collect the loosh, or ichor. This reminds me of the astral technology described by Griffith that was left here by the Elohim.

The ethereal technology itself is indifferent, but the beings who know how to access it can use it for their own purposes. Griffith mentions that the machines are artificially intelligent with an awareness similar to a plant, yet they are a highly advanced astral technology. Rudolf Steiner mentions ahrimanic spiders in our future that exist as a highly intelligent technology with an awareness similar to plants. I wonder if there's any connections there.

These multidimensional machines have apparently been here for a long time and certain sects of the shadow government have been able to gain access to some of it and integrate it with whatever it is that they are trying to do (I think maybe their agenda is influenced heavily by the entities that they worship).

These are all musings, the history is incredibly convoluted and long. There is know straight answer, the characters and their motivations are diverse. Algebra or calculus may seem convoluted too, yet people can learn it. It's an adventure in and of itself if that person likes math.

This is all incredibly interesting if anything. Piecing it together may help in some respects. I don't know how or why, but I just have a feeling it will be helpful.

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From, Wikipedia:

Manichaeism was a major Gnostic religion that was founded by the Iranian prophet Mani (c. 216–276 AD) in the Sasanian Persian Empire.

While most of Mani's original writings have been lost, numerous translations and fragmentary texts have survived. Manichaeism taught an elaborate dualistic cosmology describing the struggle between a good, spiritual world of light, and an evil, material world of darkness. Through an ongoing process which takes place in human history, light is gradually removed from the world of matter and returned to the world of light whence it came. Its beliefs were based on local Mesopotamian gnostic and religious movements.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism



Excerpts from, http://www.cichw1.net/lock2.html

"The mythology of the Lightship was a central part of Manichaean belief. Souls were lightsome and after death migrated to the moon (which was the Lightship), thence to be transported to the sun after full moon (when the ship was thought to be fully loaded). This was an original feature of Mani's belief ... "

Father Joseph Crehan

"An ingenious piece of machinery was contrived. A gigantic cosmic wheel .... resembling a water-wheel, drew up the particles of light to the moon and to the sun. During the first half of the month the rescued particles of light rose in a pillar of light, known as the column of glory, towards the moon, which, filled and swollen with particles of light, became full. During the second half of the month the particles of light were conducted from the moon to the sun and thence to the paradise of light."

Geo Widengren

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From, http://manichaean.org/united-manicha...mbly/tag/moon/

The Sun and Moon are Ships conveying souls of the dying from Matter to Light, always separating Divine Power from Matter and escorting it to God.

The Ships of Light are always on course, they never diverge from right to left. These Ships are like vessels that carry souls to their true home.

The Living Spirit is the wind that carries the Divine Ships of salvation; Mani is like the captain who knows the proper way of navigating the turbulent ocean. Contemplate on this, O Children of Light.

[...]

The Sun and Moon are Ships conveying the Souls of the dying from Matter to Light, always separating the Divine Power from Matter and escorting it to God.

For Pure Spirit had made these two Luminous Ships, which he sent on the Ocean of constant life and death (samsara), to let them carry good across to men and to bring them back into their first world, so that their Luminous Nature (bright nature, soul) might at last be calm and happy.

For in waxing the Moon receives its Power and becomes filled therewith in the due time; then it brings about its own waning by discharging the freight to send it on to the Sun, and that returns it to God.

And having done this, it receives again a migration to itself of the Soul from the next full Moon and lets it pass on automatically to God.

And so the Ferry fills and again disembarks the Souls drawn up by the buckets of the wheel, until it has saved its own share of Souls.

When the Moon then, has handed over the freight of Souls to the Divine Powers (Aeons) of the Father, they remain there in the Column of Glory which is called “The Perfect Man”; it is a Pillar of Light because it is loaded with the Souls that are being purified.

Now the Moon first receives the radiant Souls from Matter, and then deposits them in the Light, and it does this continuously; this is the way in which the Souls are saved.

Mani

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
Energies stream between planets and other celestial bodies. Currents of plasma twist through the interstellar medium connecting stars and clusters of stars.

[...]

So, these subtle causeways of (not so dark) energy and information flow in-between celestial bodies. It's not only a stream of conscious light, but it contains little packets of self-awareness akin to a soul. Maybe a sheath removed.

The soul is a subtle energetic construct that is formed in this ethereal plane. Its formation is influenced by the energies streaming through the immediate environment.

The soul can also travel between star systems.

With the texts below, incorporate the ideas of dark matter and dark plasma within the context.

Excerpts from, https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-Matrix/page2

Astronomers recently announced that some as yet not understood form of EM Plasma Energy is flowing thru-out the universe, between all suns, and galaxies.

Recent stellar maps, when combined with these energy flows, very spookily resemble - the human brain and it's EM activities.

Physics dictates that Plasma must be 'charge' balanced, positive balances negative. A 'small' plasmic body' can itself be charge imbalanced within a larger collective, so long as the larger total 'collective plasmic bodies' maintains a charge balance.

This is one reason why and how 'small body' particles 'travel' within an EM field, seeking by natural laws of Physics to achieve it's own EM charge balance, which is the very same process we avail ourselves of to power our zillions of electrical machines.

A plasmic body 'tends' to maintain itself because of the cohesiveness of all it's charged particles having the same energy frequency signature, created by the unique specific collective spins of each particle's atomic quarks. Much like every person's fingerprints or DNA being unique. Think of how a drop of water maintains itself, the surface tension of the curved 'spherical' aspect of the drop of water.

Our planet is a giant electro-magnet, compared to our own human scales. The field-lines of EM Energy travel all around it, and thru it.

These field lines are made up of EM charged particles, which 'travel' in a tight circular looping pattern that forms what is called a Flux Tube, or Tunnel.

Billions of these Flux Tubes make up much of the EM field lines of charged particles around our planet.

Between the planet's surface, and it's Ionosphere, which itself is Plasma, is something called the Schumann Cavity, actually first discovered by Nicola Tesla, a massive resonating 'chamber' of charged particles of EM Plasma.

When thinking of resonance, think - Tuning Fork.

When you 'thwack' a tuning fork, both forks vibrate exactly the same, they whip back and forth very fast, x times per second. The number of times per second is called the frequency. That both forks do it exactly the same, actually enhances and magnifies the effect and the energy in each fork, and this is called the resonance effect of the tuning fork.

We have been using this Schumann Cavity to transmit energy around the planet for over 100 years, for radio and TV and handphone communications, and other uses.

It's been proven that our brains, our entire bodies, are, have, an EM 'essence', similar to that which our planet generates.

Dr. Persinger of Laurentian University, who apparently does not, yet, want to believe in ghosts, has done a lot of work in proving that the human mind is an EM 'entity', vulnerable to external influences from both natural and man-made EM fields, such as earthquakes, volcanoes, handphones, hydro lines, and spy agencies.

He has discovered that human emotions and perceptions respond to very specific frequency EM energy signatures.

Indeed, apparently, both the Russians and Americans possess technology to 'influence' individuals, and even large masses of people, millions globally, to do or make decisions based on emotional manipulation triggered by specific frequency microwave EM broadcasts with very specific energy signatures.

In the United States this technology is most often referred to as HAARP, first invented by Nicola Tesla back in the 1930's, and much later a very large version actually was built in Alaska. It is considered to be one of the most important weapons of war, and mass manipulation tools, ever yet developed.

[...]

It works because the resonant EM energy level of both the human brain, and all life, and the earth's EM field, and the planet's Ionosphere, exactly match at around 8 Hertz, discovered by Nicola Tesla, and was the foundation of a weapon he designed to be used during WWII.

At it's most destructive, it can devastate the earth's magnetic field, causing massive changes to global weather patterns, resulting in horrendous hurricane storms, trigger tornadoes, earthquakes, and even volcanic eruptions.

At it's most subtle levels, it can be used to induce emotional responses in the masses, which can be whatever emotion they choose to trigger.

[...]

Thus substantiating that the human brain can indeed be 'triggered' by external EM fields.

What's important about this regarding our subject of Hungry Ghosts is, whatever Man has invented, it's been found that Nature has done it first.

How does the above relate to life-after-death and where do ghosts go?

Somewhere between 125,000 and 250,000 people die every day.

When we die, our EM Plasmic 'souls', are naturally 'swept' in to the planet's EM field, traveling in a spiraling fashion so tight it forms it's own tunnel called Flux Tubes, and travels either up in to the sky, or down in to the earth, which exactly match the descriptions of 'Tunnel Travel' by NDE's and OBE's, and in such ancient texts as the Tibetan Book of the Dead.

'Transference' upwards from the surface of the planet into the Schumann Cavity and Ionosphere can be quite more dramatic.

25 times every minute of every day, Lightning, which is Plasma energy, flashes UP from the ground, carrying along with it, many 'souls' of the dead.

This reverse lightning as it's sometimes called, blasts it's way in to the Shuman Cavity, where the energy can circle around the planet for a long time, or continue on upwards into the Ionosphere and Magnetosphere.

We use the Schumann Cavity for many energy transference uses, radio, tv, cell phones, etc. The signals bounce off the bottom of the Ionosphere too, which is how they travel 'over the horizon',

This UP lightning, and other meteorological factors, combine together to create lightning / thunderstorms, around 1500 raging around the planet on any given day.

Above them, another form of Lightning Plasma also blasts Upwards from the tops of the storms, towards the Ionosphere.

Usually Blue or Red in colour, these flashes were only recently proven to exist.

When they 'flash', they momentarily trigger the appearance of another mysterious form of Plasma Energy in the high atmosphere, giant bodies of Plasma Clouds some currently call Transient Luminescent Events, because they are only visible to us for a few seconds at a time.

Looking somewhat like a cross between a jelly-fish and a mushroom, these giant Plasma bodies are usually about 100 km bottom to top, and about 150 km across the 'mushroom' top.

They 'flatten out' on top where they contact the Ionosphere.

Up to 25, and more, of these TLE's have been counted overtop large storms.

Because the TLE's are only visible for seconds at a time, conventional belief is that they come in to being, from the energy of the upward lightning blasts, and almost instantly dissipate in to the ionosphere.

BUT, what if they don't dissipate. What if, instead, they exist all the time, but are just usually invisible to us.

Remember earlier in this article I mentioned that physicists recently announced they believe they have found a 5th state of matter and energy they call Quantum Matter, that they believe exists both inside and outside of our perceivable Universe.

These TLE's could be Quantum Matter, which since we could not always perceive it, nor all of it, would appear to us as existing for only a few seconds at a time, when in fact they are winking in and out of our ability to perceive them being 'lit up' as it were, by the upward blasting lightning.

If this is the case, then, perhaps these TLE's are what we've been calling for several thousand years, Valhalla; one of the higher planes of existence; the other side or other world; or as in some religions, the Heavens.

Many new age groups in fact believe that spirits do usually reside in the highest levels of our atmosphere, and, there have been numerous case reports since the advent of the airplane of 'ghosts' and 'ghost lights' in or near the airplanes while flying thru the top or overtop of thunderstorms, including sightings of strange upward blue-lightning blasts at the time.

[...]

Most every one with a modicum of education knows that our Sun burns with a nuclear ferocity, which fluctuates constantly. Every 11 years or so, tensions and pressures build up, and Solar Flares erupt, sending various sizes of massive Blasts of matter and energy in to space, which often strike our planet, causes northern and southern lights, and, can knock out modern communications, power transfer systems, and fry satellites out of the sky. And, because every living creature on earth is in large part, an electrical entity, we all can be affected by these massive energy/matter surges too.

More on that later.

What very few people know is that energy flows the other way too.

The earth's plasma energy works it's way up thru the various atmospheres, to sooner or later wind up in the Ionosphere, and from there, when it fills up, it spills out, and much of that spill, has been satellite photographed (only recently) 'traveling' in the general direction of our sun.

This 'spill-out' happens every 27 days or so, which almost exactly matches the half-way mark of how long the soul is said to linger close to the body after death as stated in the Tibetan Book of the Dead.

- Steven 'something' (can't remember author)

Picking this apart ... thinking of the moon being a vessel that attracts souls like a water wheel.

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
I am moving this post over here, because it could relate, and it's good "food" for thought!

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OKAY, my mind is racing after reading this. It's an article from montalk.net entitled, Food for the Moon.

The moon is more than just a pale satellite of interest to poets and astronomers. Its influence goes beyond merely creating ocean tides or driving biological cycles. More importantly, the moon exerts a significant influence upon the mechanical, emotional, and psychological states in man.

[...]

Gurdjieff and Ouspensky

Fourth Way philosophy aims to strip man of his mechanical behavior and hypnotic programming in order to build within him a core of heightened consciousness. It is an esoteric system assembled from incomplete fragments of inner Christianity and Sufism. It’s founder, Georges Gurdjieff, frequently admonished the thoughtless mechanical behavior of humanity and was fond of saying that we are “food for the moon.”

What did Gurdjieff mean by this phrase? Many have interpreted “food for the moon” as a figure of speech, that perhaps Gurdjieff meant we are slave to our mechanical conditioning and feed our baser impulses. While it can be additionally interpreted that way, Gurdjieff was likely being literal. Peter Ouspensky, one of Gurdjieff’s most prolific disciples, lectured at length concerning the moon’s role in human affairs and its place in the cosmological scheme of things. It is reasonable to assume what Ouspensky wrote about the moon accurately reflects what Gurdjieff taught him.

According to Ouspensky, the moon acts as a giant electromagnet pulling upon all organic life on earth and sucking into itself the soul essence of dying creatures. The moon is an embryonic planet receiving its nutrition from organic life on earth through an etheric umbilical cord, an energy conduit between earth and moon.

In man, the moon drives his mechanical aspects like a pendulum moving the gears of a clock. The degree to which one’s actions are driven by the moon is proportional to one’s level of reactivity and non-being. For people incapable of moving themselves through life by nobler spiritual impulses, the moon provides a propulsive force. Without this force, mechanical individuals would be passive as puppets without a puppeteer.

Ouspensky went so far as to say that the very physical motion of our limbs was made possible thanks to the moon. Other Fourth Way initiates like Rodney Collin explained that because our body was largely made of water and the moon pulls on water to create the ocean tides, our bodies are made to move in similar but more complicated ways through hydraulic principles.

[...]

It would be more accurate to say that the moon exerts some subtle influence upon the organs of our etheric body responsible for initiating neurochemical impulses that trigger habitual motions. Such mechanical behavior may therefore be driven by the moon, but not necessarily via crude physical means.

The moon is therefore an important factor in driving our mechanical actions. As long as its influence is limited to such effects, the moon is doings its job properly. Ouspensky warned, however, that if lunar influences trespassed into one’s emotional and mental aspects, then emotional and mental imbalances would occur. How can the moon affect our emotional and intellectual centers? By the very fact that these lower centers have their own mechanical aspects.

Ouspensky was asked whether there was any truth to the connection between full moons and lunacy.

[...]

In the cosmological schema, earth is like a mother to the moon which is still a fetus in the sense that it cannot yet “breathe” on its own, hold an atmosphere, or support life. Gurdjieff said: “The Moon is actually a fragment of this Earth, which must now constantly maintain the Moon’s existence.” In that sense, the moon is like a parasitic thoughtform. [Vivek: Ahem, aborted fetus anyone?]

In line with the objectives of Fourth Way, to escape the more deleterious lunar influences Ouspensky said we must “create moon within ourselves.” By this he meant we must develop within us a driving mechanism that can take the place of the external lunar influence; in this way we would break free of the puppeteer. Assuming for a moment a more general and practical interpretation, this simply says that in order to become free from mechanical conditioning and reactive behavior we must reinforce our sense of self-awareness so that conscious choice and awareness reigns supreme over any external stimuli that might provoke an unconscious reaction.

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Mouravieff

In his epic work Gnosis, Boris Mouravieff formulated an esoteric system for spiritual evolution founded upon the inner traditions of Eastern Orthodoxy. Though sharing a common basis with Fourth Way, what Mouravieff detailed is comparatively more complete, accurate, and systematic. Here is an excerpt from Gnosis summarizing what is necessary to transcend the lunar influence:

As a cell of organic life on Earth, man plays a part in the development of the Ray of Creation. The vivification of the Moon, that cosmic foetus, is one aspect of this development. This requires considerable quantities of energy, which is produced in particular by the human part of organic life. Illusion, which plays such an important role in the waking consciousness of man, was introduced into that state so that he would accept this aspect of the cosmic work, participating in it without rebellion.

If we become conscious of this situation and desire to escape it, we must conceive and create a screen which will protect us against this devouring influence of the Moon. We must meanwhile guard against falling into Illusion again by erecting a false screen; the result would be an aggravated waste of these forces instead of an economy of force. The quantity of force necessary to genuinely oppose the influence of the Moon is already considerable. The first imperative, then, is to stop wasting these forces, to turn off the taps which let the energy escape uselessly: sterile emotions, in particular negative emotions; fantasies from uncontrolled imagination; uncoordinated mental gymnastics, gossiping and chattering. We must thus act like a wise minister of finance and carefully economize our energies, yet without all the time sterilizing either our activity or our intelligence. On the contrary, we must store and as far as possible augment these forces to build up our reserves. These are the two main aspects of the first objective we have to attain. (Mouravieff, Gnosis I, p.168)

Mouravieff also explained that organic life functions as a transmitter station sending refined energy to the moon to assist its growth. Despite increases in the human population and thus an increase in quantity of energy transferred, times of peace do not produce sufficient energy and so catalysts for suffering such as wars and catastrophes arise to sustain the process.

The Moon’s passive energy arises from solar energy. It reflects this, but not without a transformation as its own nature. […] Unlike the Earth, the Moon does not have a direct organic link with the Sun. Being a satellite, it depends directly on its planet, and it is only through the latter’s mediation that it enters into relation with the Sun. One of its essential roles is to reflect solar energy onto the Earth’s surface in a form modified by reflection as described above. This also leads to qualitative and quantitative variations that depend on its phases. These changes do not prevent continual reverberation, due to the fact that the Moon always presents the same face to Earth, as the duration of its rotation around itself and around our planet are both the same. (Mouravieff, Gnosis II, p.29)

Although Mouravieff did not elaborate in what manner the lunar influence varies with phase, it stands to reason that essentially it is a matter of astrological alignment between earth, sun, and moon. During new and full moons, the moon and sun are respectively in conjunction and opposition. During quarter moons they are square. Opposition, conjunction, and square represent alignments that in this particular case aggravate the mechanical aspects in man. Other times of the month when the moon is trine or sextile sun, a more harmonious astrological aspect establishes itself. These alignments engender calmer temperaments with the mechanical influence not trespassing into emotional or mental territory.

That the moon always shows the same face, has an unusually circular orbit, and is precisely distanced to blot out the sun during total solar eclipses implies an intentional placement by the “Architect” of the matrix, or perhaps it simply suggests a collective choice to experience this highly improbable but necessary reality. When asked if the moon was intentionally placed, the Cassiopaeans responded: This is impossibly complex because in one way or another, everything is part of a “plan.” Mouravieff and Ouspensky emphasized that despite the soporific nature of the moon and the urgent necessity for individuals to overcome its influence, there is still an important cosmological reason for this arrangement [...]

The Zelator

Another interesting source is The Zelator by Mark Hedsel, an autobiographical account of his initiatory pathway through various mystery schools. The following excerpt takes place in the presence of a teacher who gives a lengthy discourse on the moon:

Our questions led our Master to some fascinating and unexpected observations about the lunar connections in ancient esoteric lore, and it was not surprising that the few questions we did put to our Master at that time concerned these planets. ‘Do you know what the third-day pig is?’ he asked in response to a question I had put to him about the Moon. Although our Master was looking directly at us, everyone shook their heads, as though he had directed the question to each of us personally. Perhaps the question had been rhetorical, for he continued almost immediately. ‘The three-day pig is a phrase from the ancient Mysteries. Prior to the initiation held during the Greater Mysteries of the Boedromion at Eleusis, in Greece, there was what the Greeks called the Halade Mystai. Early in the morning, the candidates for initiation would make their way to the sea, carrying young pigs, which they would wash and then sacrifice. The usual — we might even say the exoteric — explanation for this sacrifice is that they considered the blood of the pig to be especially pure, and much appreciated by the gods of the Underworld. They buried the killed pigs deep in the Earth, after the blood and slaughtered bodies had been dedicated to these infernal gods. Because the sacrifice was held on the third day of the Greater Mystery, such a creature was called the third-day pig.’

He raised his eyebrows, and smiled. ‘Now, as with all Mysteries of initiation, the term is not quite correct — it is meant to hide something. It was not a third-day pig, but a two-and-a-half-day pig, as the sacrifices always took place in the morning. The fact that the rites were conducted near the sea should lend a clue to one aspect of this arcane symbolism, for the two-and-a-half day period is a lunar period. In two and a half days, the Moon completely traverses one sign of the zodiac: the period, cosmically speaking, is a 12th part of the month. Now, perhaps, you will begin to see something of the deeper significance of the third-day pig?’ Perhaps once again the question had been rhetorical. At all events, there was no sound from the circle.

‘In a sense, the third-day pig is humanity — the liquid sweat of the Earth. Humanity is in thrall to the Moon — mankind is subject to the two-and-a-half-day rhythm, and to all other lunar periodicities. In another sense, the third-day pig is the animal of Set, the reject darker side of Mankind — that lucifuge side, which does not strive towards the light.

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‘In the case of the Moon, the matter is made more complex by the fact that the physical matter of the Moon did once form part of what we now call the Earth. Within the context of the lunar sphere, the two centres did once coincide. A tremendous effort of meditative power is required to follow these connections, however, and the bald statement I have made can result in misconceptions.’

‘Why,’ asked Philip, ‘did the Moon have to separate from the Earth?’ ‘It was a cosmic fission. The Moon represents the harder mineralization of the Earth. In the body of the Moon is the matter which, had it remained with the Earth, would have weighed down human development too deeply. Man would not have been able to bear the weight of those forces in his own body. Just as we know from our own observations of ourselves that we must slough off darkness to reach into the light, so the planetary bodies must also involve themselves in a similar fission. Even so, it is true that the weight of the Moon, albeit removed by half a million miles, still contorts the physical body of the Earth and its inhabitants through what are usually called ‘gravitational’ effects.

‘Now we must touch upon the connection between the Moon and clairvoyancy. We must do this because one of our members has — wisely or unwisely — become involved with mediumistic groups.’

‘It is important that we set out very clearly the dangers inherent in opening the soul to such activities. It is not for me to forbid such activity. I have no power to forbid, and would relish no such power. Much as I would wish to protect you, I cannot. The best I can do is make the dangers clear to you. After that, your beliefs and your conduct remain your own.’

He look around at our faces, as though to indicate that he had arrived at the most important point of the evening.

‘And so now we must look at an esoteric truth which touches on the very edge of what is permissible. What I have to say will be greatly disturbing for many people of modern times. It will disturb, because it is generally taken for granted that clairvoyancy, mediumship and spiritualistic activity are somehow linked with Spiritual development, and consequently of benefit to mankind. Unfortunately, this is far from the truth. A vast amount of our modern so-called “Spiritualist” literature pertains to channelling and clairvoyancy which is far from beneficial for the development of mankind. Indeed, not to mince words, I should tell you that it is distinctly harmful.

‘I must now make a statement which will introduce you to a concept which was, until comparatively recently, one of the deepest secrets of the esoteric Schools: In some ways, the Moon is the greatest problem of esoteric lore. The Moon is not at all what it appears to be.

‘At the end of the last century an astounding revelation was made, as a result of dissent among members of secret Schools. Information, hitherto guarded jealously by the most enclosed of the inner Orders, was made public. The secrets disclosed pertained to a far deeper level of knowledge than has hitherto been made exoteric by the Schools — even in this enlightened age.’

His trace of cynicism seemed to go by unnoticed.

‘Our purpose here is not to document how so deep an esoteric idea was made public — or even to assess whether it was wise for this idea to be brought out into the open. All this has been dealt with in the literature — and if any of you wish to follow this up, I will give you a few titles later.

‘In a nutshell, what was made public during this conflict in the Schools was the truth that our Moon is a sort of counterweight to another sphere, which remains invisible to ordinary vision. This counterweighted sphere is called in esoteric circles the Eighth Sphere.

‘We must be careful with these words, for, in spite of what I have just said, this region is not itself a sphere, nor is it a moon. Even to locate it behind the physical Moon is not correct, for in the Spiritual realm spaces and distances are different. The truth is that this Eighth Sphere does not pertain to anything we are familiar with on the physical plane, yet we must use words from our own vocabularies whenever we wish to denote its existence. Were we to use a word which fits most appropriately this Sphere, then we should really call it a vacuum. Certainly, vacuum is a more appropriate term than sphere, for the Eighth Sphere sucks things into its own shadowy existence.

‘This Sphere is lower in the scale of being than the Seventh Sphere (which is the Earth). It acts as a sort of demonic conduit to suck into its maws certain degenerate Spiritual forms on the Earth. It is a shadow Sphere, controlled by shadow beings. However, the fact that they are shadow beings should not lead us to demote or underestimate their capabilities and intelligence. In many respects they are more intelligent than Man, for they are not limited by the power of love, as is Mankind.

‘The operation of this Eighth Sphere is complex. Its denizens — those shadowy beings for whom it is home — wish to people their Sphere with humanity, or (more accurately) with human souls. Towards this end, it has erected what we might call terminals on the Earth: these terminals are soul-conduits, which will suck into the lower Sphere a certain form of materialized Spiritual energy that is engendered on the Earth plane. The most usual circumstances where this materialization or engendering takes place is in seances, and in other localities wherein human beings attempt to meddle — against the cosmic law — with the lower Etheric planes.’

‘It is less than one hundred years since this knowledge of the Eighth Sphere was made public. At first there was an outcry at this breach in initiate knowledge, but now we can see that it has proved something of a blessing that the demonic threat has been brought out into the open. In some ways, it is easier to deal with a visible enemy. Those who dabble in the supposed communications with the dead, and with that spirit-land which they fondly imagine lies beyond the veil, have not gone unwarned.

I will leave most of the above for the reader to digest, and discuss only the so-called “Eighth Sphere.” What is meant by the moon being a counterweight to the Eighth Sphere? Evidently, the moon is but a physical reflection of something tangible but not material, something beyond our realm of perception.

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The Eighth Sphere would therefore include: the lower astral planes where carnal and demonic thoughtforms dwell, the hyperdimensional realms inhabited by so-called reptilian beings, the parasitic etheric lattice overlaying the earth comprising the very tendrils of the Matrix, the soul-pool of which spiritless humans are incarnate extensions, and the demiurgic creature positioned atop the negative occult hierarchy sucking into itself all energy gathered from the “tiers” below.

This interpretation of the Eighth Sphere should be self-evident for those familiar with the works of Rudolf Steiner, Carlos Castaneda, Robert Monroe, Dr. William Baldwin, the Cassiopaean Transcripts, and my articles on the Matrix.

For instance, that spiritless humans have something to do with the moon is clear from the fact that they, being extensions of less evolved (“second density”) energies occupying human (“third density”) bodies, are essentially two-and-a-half density beings, which relates to the two-and-a-half-day pig [...] That the moon shares an archetypal basis with spiritless humans is further evidenced by it being a second density planet reflecting light rather than generating its own, just as spiritless humans are not fully third density and merely reflect back the soul image of others.

Source: http://montalk.net/matrix/114/food-for-the-moon

This is only two thirds of the article, and it relates to the scuttlers apparently (amongst other things, lots of correlations here).

Here is another video.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HyXvR0yDr28

See also redicecreations.com article: http://www.redicecreations.com/speci...1jan/moon.html

I have to get to bed.

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Posted by Vivek (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
which is why one of its titles is the Foundation. It is in the Astral that thought-forms are fed and gain in energy and substance until they are physically manifested in Malkuth. Therefore, the Astral Plane is the Foundation for the Physical Plane. [B]Yesod is the mysterious, shadowy realm of the Moon where magickal energy is stored and drawn upon.

Hey Vivek,

I was wondering here...If my beliefs are correct, and these life forms, the scuttlers, arrived here infiltrated in the first human spaceships during the begining of the space exploration programs, it makes me think about what was the real reason behind the moon landings...

What if, this central quantum AI system, is up there, in the moon, and the real purpose behind the first space missions was to check it out?

What if the masterminds behind the space exploration programs already knew, based on hidden ancient knowledge, that there was something up there, and the spaceships wouldn´t return alone?

Maybe this whole space exploration program was part of their trans-humanist agenda since the begining, to finally establish a direct connection, an integration, between whatever is up there in the moon and us?

Who knows...Maybe the whole moon is a freaking quantum computer, or at least one hub, out of many that might be spread around the galaxy...Pretty much like the tree of life, or a network.

Raf.

Not only does this remind me of what Icke (moon matrix), Mouravieff, Gurdjieff say, but also what Barbara Marciniak channeled (yikes that word). I usually wouldn't quote such sources, but the correlations are there.

From Barbara Marciniak:

The sun and the moon are the luminaries within your system by which you are most profoundly influenced and affected. The sun generates its own light. The sun, in turn, illuminates the moon.

The moon is a sub-satellite of the sun, orbiting as a computer around Earth, built and maintained by many generations of gods. Heavenly bodies are constructed in the shapes of asteroids, moons, and planets, and it is through these luminaries that rays of intelligence, radio waves, and gamma rays are transmitted from star to sun and sent to Earth.

The moon is a satellite that was constructed. It was built and anchored outside Earth's atmosphere as a mediating and monitoring device, a supercomputer or eye in the sky.

It affects all life forms on this planet, beyond what you can currently grasp. In your history, there are references to two moons around Earth. You don't hear of this often, but there are those who know.

Earth must be owned by those who dwell here; however, it is not. You have outside gods, creator energies, who prevent you, as a species, from having free rein with your kundalini.

The influence of the moon, as a main satellite computer, affects all of Earth. At this time, powerful cosmic rays are crossing space as photonic waves and being transduced through Uranus, Neptune, and other forces.

This is creating an overloaded circuitry around the control that has kept you from understanding that you, as human beings, must take stewardship of your planet.

Why are you locked into a prescribed formula of time that is irrelevant in every other place? What is the significance of twelve in this marking and dividing process? Who would you be without this? These are the questions we wish you to ponder. The answers have, of course, to do with control of your life span and kundalini. You see, in the ideal, your life span would be much longer than it is, and your society would honor the process of gathering wisdom through experience.

In the ideal, the kundalini experience at forty, in a society structured and nurtured to bring it about, would create the maturation of the individual. Right now, you consider yourself to come into maturation at the age of twenty-one.

Please be aware that you experience numerous cycles of energy that come through the body to teach you new vistas of maturation. Awareness of this process is key to your development. It challenges you to continually take on more responsibility, and not to feel burdened by it.

There have been many, many battles over the moon. Parts of the moon are owned, and parts are utilized.

There is a plan to gradually insert different programs of influence on Earth when the moon becomes occupied by forces that would assist you in your growth, rather than limit you.

The moon's programs have, for eons, been of great limitation toward human beings.

Source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/pl...tierra_eng.htm

Really gets the creative juices flowin'!

ADD/UPDATE:

Earth may have once had two moons:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...space-science/

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...086608,00.html

Makes you say hmmmmm, that's interesting...

Need to sort this one out. It's like a dyson sphere around the Earth.

[Kalamos]

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[Jeffrey]

The Zelator, by Mark Hedsel



Great read.

[Jeffrey]

Robert Monroe writes:

I got the impression of huge pipes, so ancient they were covered with undergrowth and rust. Something like oil was passing through them, but it was much higher in energy than oil, and vitally needed and valuable elsewhere (assumption: not on this material planet). This has been going on for aeons of time, and there were other force groups here, taking out the same material on some highly competitive basis, and the material was convertible at some distant point or civilization for something very valuable to entities far above my ability to understand.

[...]

Then they seemed to soar up into the sky, while I called after them, pleading. Then I was sure that their mentality and intelligence were far beyond my understanding. It is an impersonal, cold intelligence, with none of the emotions of love or compassion which we respect so much, yet kind's past could well have been the basis for all of our religious beliefs, and our knowledge today could provide no better answers than we could a thousand years past.

Source: Journeys Out of the Body

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)

In Greek mythology, Ichor (/ˈaɪkər/ or /ˈɪkər/; Ancient Greek: ἰχώρ) is the ethereal golden fluid that is the blood of the gods and/or immortals.

The fluid that flows like blood in the veins of the gods.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichor

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From the Chapter entitled, Archontics, in The Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis:

"They say that the soul is the food of the principalities and authorities, and that they cannot live without it, since it is some of the ichor on high and affords them power.

Epiphanius, Panarion p285

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“I had a vision of the group soul of humanity as a perfectly circular pool of intense living light. All around the rim of the milky pool were a complex variety of sexual rites, a metaphor for all social interaction. Translucent Hindu deities swooped over the group taking the excessive energy of the shimmering pool and passing through the group as ecstasy and pain. I saw that the reason we were all brought together was to provide a psychic energy feast for the Gods and Goddesses. I saw my heart as the axis of karmic, earthly, and universal energies, transected by and uniting the polarities of male/female, birth/death, good/evil, and love/hate. To maintain a balance of forces we all fed both Deities and Demons.”

Alex Grey

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From, Far Journeys, by Robert Monroe:

Someone, Somewhere (or both, in millions, or uncountable) requires, likes, needs, values, collects, drinks, eats, or uses as a drug a substance ident Loosh. (Electricity, oil, oxygen, gold, wheat, water, land, old coins, uranium.) This is a rare substance in Somewhere, and those who possess Loosh find it vital for whatever it is used for.

[...]

To handle the output, Someone set up Special Collectors to aid in the harvest. He set up Channels to convey the raw Loosh from his Garden to Somewhere.

[...]

Collectors on behalf of the Others actually entered the Garden of Someone to take advantage of those small emanations of Loosh overlooked or ignored by the Collectors of Someone. Someone, his work completed, returned to Somewhere and occupied himself with other matters. Loosh production stayed at a constant level under the supervision of the Collectors. The only alterations were ordered by Someone himself. Under instructions from Someone, the Collectors periodically harvested segments of the Fourth Crop. This was done to ensure adequate chemicals, radiation, and other nourishment for the younger, oncoming units. A secondary purpose was to provide occasional extra amounts of Loosh created by such harvesting.

To reap such harvest, the Collectors generated storms of turbulence and turmoil in both the gaseous envelope and the more solid chemical formations that were the base of the Garden itself.

[...]

From experience, the Collectors have evolved an entire technology with complementary tools for the harvesting of Loosh from the Type 4M units.

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The food chain of earth's ecobiologic system had been well established. Knowing this about Mother Nature, some of the hard-core philosophic speculators had often pondered where the human animal fit in the process. The downside was obvious, who at us! Before, it had been just that, speculation. Now ...

Robert Monroe, Far Journeys

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From, The Way of the Shaman:

They then projected a visual scene in front of me. First the showed me the planet earth as it was eons ago, before there was any life on it. I saw an ocean, barren land. and a bright blue sky.

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The creatures then showed me how they had created life on the planet in order to hide within the multitudinous forms and thus disguise their presence. Before me, the magnificence of plant and animal creation and speciation-hundreds of millions of years of activity-took place on a scale and with a vividness impossible to describe. I learned that the dragon-like creatures were thus inside all forms of life. including man. They were the true masters of humanity and the entire planet, they told me. WE humans were bit the receptacles and servants of these creatures. For this reason the could speak to me from within myself.

Micheal Harner

[Kalamos]

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[Jeffrey]

Pulling this post from here: Their Mind and the Emotional Matrix we create with it

Trying to make correlations between what Sri Aurobindo and the Mother are laying out and the works of Goddard, Griffith, Castaneda, and Monroe. (Personally, it seems like there are strong ones)

Oh, one more thing... In Aurobindo's terminology, the vital plane corresponds to the astral plane more or less. In this thread, the astral plane is the plane of dark matter, dark plasma, and the dark biosphere. These are just as much spiritual matters!



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Here is a corroborating collection of excerpts from Sri Aurobindo -- I think these compliment the thread (and the underlying theme that ties this thread into others like it). The first quote is from Mirra Alfassa, the rest are from Aurobindo.

[Side note: Emphasis added.]

It would seem that all the adverse, anti-divine forces, the forces of the vital world, have descended on the earth, are making use of it as their field of action, and that at the same time a new, higher, more powerful spiritual force has also descended on earth to bring it a new life. This makes the struggle more acute, more violent, more visible, but it seems also more definitive, and that is why we can hope to reach an early solution.

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The gift of rajas is kinetic force, energy, activity, the power that creates and acts and can overcome; but it moves in the wrong lights or the half-lights of the Ignorance and it is perverted by the touch of the Asura, Rakshasa and Pishacha. The arrogant ignorance of the human mind and its self-satisfied perversions and presumptuous errors, the pride and vanity and ambition, the cruelty and tyranny and beast wrath and violence, the selfishness and baseness and hypocrisy and treachery and vile meanness, the lust and greed and rapacity, the jealousy, envy and bottomless ingratitude that disfigure the earth-nature are the natural children of this indispensable but strong and dangerous turn of Nature [...] The various imperfections of the soul and mind produce many imperfections and perversities of this type,—the man of mere brute force of will, the worshipper of power without any other ideal or higher purpose, the selfish, dominant personality, the aggressive violent rajasic man, the grandiose egoist, the Titan, Asura, Rakshasa.

[...]

And equally when we first become aware of the infinite Shakti above us or around or in us, the impulse of the egoistic sense in us is to lay hold on it and use this increased might for our egoistic purpose. This is a most dangerous thing, for it brings with it a sense and some increased reality of a great, sometimes a titanic power, and the rajasic ego, delighting in this sense of new enormous strength, may instead of waiting for it to be purified and transformed throw itself out in a violent and impure action and even turn us for a time or partially into the selfish and arrogant Asura using the strength given him for his own and not for the divine purpose: but on that way lies, in the end, if it is persisted in, spiritual perdition and material ruin.

Source: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~biedel/Victory/asura.html

This next selection is from Evening Talks with Sri Aurobindo:

Disciple: If the Asuras represent the dark side of God on the vital plane – does this dark side exist on every plane? If so, are there beings on the mental plane which correspond to the dark side?

Sri Aurobindo: The Asura is really the dark side of God on the mental plane. Mind is the very field of the Asura. His characteristic is egoistic strength, which refuses the Higher Law. The Asura has got Self-control, Tapas, intelligence, only, all that is for his ego. On the vital plane the corresponding forces we call the Rakshashas which represent violent passions and impulses. There are other beings on the vital plane which we call pramatta and piśacha and these; manifest, more or less, on the physico-vital plane.

Disciple: What is the corresponding being on the higher plane?

Sri Aurobindo: On the higher plane there are no Asuras – there the Truth prevails. There are "Asuras" there in the Vedic sense, – "beings with divine powers". The mental Asura is only a deviation of that power.

The work of the Asura has all the characteristics of mind in it. It is mind refusing to submit to the Higher Law; it is the mind in revolt. It works on the basis of ego and ignorance.

Disciple: What are the forces that correspond to the dark side of God on the physical plane?

Sri Aurobindo: They are what may be called the "elemental beings", or rather, obscure elemental forces – they are more "forces" than "beings". It is these that the Theosophists call the "Elementals". They are not individualised beings like the Asura and the Rakshasas, they are ignorant forces working oh the subtle physical plane.

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Disciple: The term "Elemental" means that these work through the elements.

Sri Aurobindo: There are two kinds of "elementals": one mischievous and the other innocent. What the Europeans call the gnomes come under this category.

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Sri Aurobindo: I did not say so; what I might have said is that there are conscious forces behind the diseases. Diseases are movements of forces.

Disciple: You said that some diseases feed on the vitality of man.

Sri Aurobindo: It is not diseases that feed on man's vitality. It may be a vital being sucking up man's vitality and the result may be a disease.

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Disciple: Some of the Asuras are said to have practised Sadhana. What is their kind of Sadhana? You also said that they are very intelligent beings.

Sri Aurobindo: I never said that they have true ideas and great ideals and that they were great mental beings. What I said was that they were clever in carrying out their purpose, they know how to work out results.

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Sri Aurobindo: In the case of Ravana, and also of Hiranya Kashipu, they were human beings who became Asuras and chose the path of opposition to the Divine. It is really a fall and it shows that the course of evolution for man is not to become an Asura. That is to say, the course of human evolution is not from the animal to the vital being and then to the Asura. Asuric life is regarded as a fall for man. If you got converted Asuric nature then you lose the chance of your evolution.

Source: http://www.aurobindo.ru/workings/purani/2-0092.htm, http://www.aurobindo.ru/workings/purani/2-0091.htm

This smacks of what the Gnostic scriptures illustrate and the information from Matus/Castandena.

Here are a few more from Aurobindo about the hostile forces. By the way, the vital corresponds to the astral or emotional body.

They [the hostile forces] come because they were freely permitted in the past - so they want to renew and continue their action. An entire rejection and a complete turning to the Divine are the way to meet them.

[...]

Yes, certainly. Men are being constantly invaded by the hostiles and there are great numbers of men who are partly or entirely under their influence. Some are possessed by them, others (a few) are incarnations of hostile beings. At the present moment they are very active all over the earth. Of course in the outside world there is no consciousness, such as is developed in yoga, by which they can either become aware of or consciously repel the attacks - the struggle in them between the psychic and the hostile force goes on mostly behind the veil or so far as it is on the surface is not understood by the mind.

[...]

The forces of the Ignorance are a perversion of the earth-nature and the adverse Powers make use of them. They do not give up their control of men without a struggle.

[...]

There is always this critical hostile voice in everybody's nature, questioning, reasoning, denying the experience itself, suggesting doubt of oneself and doubt of the Divine. One has to recognise it as the voice of the Adversary trying to prevent the progress and refuse credence to it altogether.

[...]

But when the suggestions come, surely it is possible to know from their very character what they are and that itself shows that they must come from wrong vital Forces. The only thing is that they must be at once rejected and the entry into your own mind and vital refused to them - i.e. they must not be accepted or allowed to influence. Very few have the direct occult perception of the Forces behind the suggestion - at least until the cosmic consciousness fully opens, for then direct perception becomes more easily possible, - but the mental understanding can be used with good effect.

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Do not allow these suggestions to prevail. Each time these powers attack, if you hold them at bay, you gain an added force for progress. They attack and suggest to you a wrong understanding in the hope that, if you accept, their power to return on you will last a little longer. Do not allow them to prevail for however short a time.

[...]

That is very interesting - for it agrees with the Mother's constant insistence that to feel sympathy or any emotion of the weak philanthropic kind with those possessed by vital forces is most dangerous as it may bring an attack upon oneself which may take any form. One must do what is to be done but abstain from all such weakness.

[...]

Vital forces can attack the mind and do. Many receive suggestions from them through the brain, so it is quite possible that it may be felt as coming in through the head from above. That does not mean that it came from regions above the mind (higher Mind, intuition or overmind). Correct reasoning means no more than coherent argument from a certain standpoint and does not validate a fit of anger or indicate for it a non-adverse source.

[...]

There has been progress in all these parts, but they seem to be subject still to a response to the suggestions of the hostile forces. Everybody gets these suggestions, but they ought not to be allowed to enter inside, especially in the heart, or to be accepted by the vital. Evidently, they enter through the physical mind (from the throat upwards meant that) and affect the surface vital and emotional being. You must get the power to reject them from there by a constant and steady denial and refusal of their suggestions. So long as anything in you says “yes” or accepts, there is always the possibility of a return.

[...]

It is not sincerity to express only what the adverse forces suggest or what you feel when you are in a bad condition, full of obscurity and a wrong outlook. When you are in the Truth, you feel quite the opposite and it is not insincerity to cling to that and recall it. It is only by bringing it back that the Truth can grow in you.

[...]

Naturally, the hostile forces are always on the watch to rob what they can of the things received by the sadhak, - not that they profit by them but they prevent them from being used to build up the Divine in life.

[...]

There are two things that make it impossible for them [the hostile forces] to succeed even temporarily in any attack on the mind or the vital - first, an entire love, devotion and confidence that nothing can shake, secondly, a calm and equality in the vital as well as in the mind which has become the fundamental character of the inner nature. Suggestions then may still come, things go wrong outside, but the being remains invulnerable. Either of these two things is sufficient in itself - and in proportion as they grow, even the existence of the hostile forces becomes less and less of a phenomenon of the inner life - though they may still be there in the outer atmosphere.

Source: http://intyoga.online.fr/hostile.htm

[Kalamos]

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[Jeffrey]

I am cross posting this here, with an addendum that I didn't feel comfortable posting in the new thread.

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
Sri Aurobindo has tied it altogether. The push for a new world order, the illuminati, transhumanism, satanism, luciferianism, the archons, the theocrats, the predators, loosh collectors, the reptilians, the eighth sphere -- the hostile forces.

This ties together the work of Kyle Griffith, Robert Monroe, Philip Goddard, Carlos Castaneda, Jay Alfred, and Gnostic idealogies. There is a common thread.

The way that Sri Aurobindo presents it is clear and concise -- a reflection of his unfettered mind and sincere heart.

The natural evolution of humanity has been interfered with by hyperdimensional entities. Sri Aurobindo sheds light on this dark issue and proposes methods for circumventing the influences of these anti-divine forces.

There is a whole other universe of sentient beings, an extraordinary spectrum of astral wildlife and intelligences beyond our own. All varying in terms of awareness.

Some seek to aid us, and some seek to keep us weak and distracted. Some are coherent in their efforts (in a conspiratorial, mishevious sense) and others are compelled by nature.

[...]

Here are a series of excerpts from, Letters on Yoga:

The hostile Forces are Powers of Darkness who are in revolt against the Light and the Truth and want to keep this world under their rule in darkness and ignorance. Whenever anyone wants to reach the Truth, to realise the Divine, they stand in the way as much as possible. But what they are specially against is the work the Mother and myself are doing, to bring down the Light here into the earth and establish the Truth—that would mean their own expulsion. So they always try to destroy the work as a whole and to spoil the sadhana of each sadhak. It is not only you who are attacked: all are attacked more or less—especially when there is a great progress, these forces try to interfere.

The only way to avoid it is to be entirely turned towards the Mother and to refuse any opportunity to these Forces.

[...]

Sometimes they possess men in order to act through them, sometimes they take birth in a human body. When their use in the play is over, they will either change or disappear or no longer seek to intervene in the earth-play.

[...]

These things [such as temptation by Apsaras] are possible but they do not usually happen—because it is difficult for beings of the subtle worlds to materialise to such an extent or for a long time. They prefer to act by influencing human beings, using them as instruments or taking possession of a human mind and body.

[...]

There are two kinds of Asuras—one kind were divine in their origin but have fallen from their divinity by self-will and opposition to the intention of the Divine: they are spoken of in the Hindu scriptures as the former or earlier gods; these can be converted and their conversion is indeed necessary for the ultimate purposes of the universe. But the ordinary Asura is not of this character, is not an evolutionary but a typal being and represents a fixed principle of the creation which does not evolve or change and is not intended to do so.

These Asuras, as also the other hostile beings, Rakshasas, Pisachas and others resemble the devils of the Christian tradition and oppose the divine intention and the evolutionary purpose in the human being; they don’t change the purpose in them for which they exist which is evil, but have to be destroyed like the evil. The Asura has no soul, no psychic being which has to evolve to a higher state; he has only an ego and usually a very powerful ego; he has a mind, sometimes even a highly intellectualised mind; but the basis of his thinking and feeling is vital and not mental, at the service of his desire and not of truth. He is a formation assumed by the life-principle for a particular kind of work and not a divine formation or a soul.

[...]

Yes. Some kinds of Asuras are very religious, very fanatical about their religion, very strict about rules of ethical conduct. Others of course are just the opposite. There are others who use spiritual ideas without believing in them to give them a perverted twist and delude the sadhaka. It is what Shakespeare described as the Devil quoting Scripture for his own purpose. At present what they are most doing is to try to raise up the obscurity and weakness of the most physical mind, vital, material parts to prevent the progress or fulfilment of the sadhana.

[...]

The Asuras are really the dark side of the mental, ormore strictly, of the vital mind plane. This mind is the very field of the Asuras. Their main characteristic is egoistic strength and struggle, which refuse the higher law. The Asura has self-control, tapas and intelligence, but all that for the sake of his ego. On the lower vital plane the corresponding forces we call the Rakshasas which represent violent passions and influences. There are also other kinds of beings on the vital plane which are called the Pisachas and Pramathas. They manifest more or less in the physico-vital. On the physical plane the corresponding forces are obscure beings, more forces than beings, what the Theosophists call the elementals. They are not strongly individualised beings like the Rakshasas and Asuras, but ignorant and obscure forces working in the subtle physical plane. What we in Sanskrit call the Bhutas mostly come under this class. But there are two kinds of elementals, the one mischievous and the other not. There are no Asuras on the higher planes where the Truth prevails, except in the Vedic sense—“the Divine in its strength”. The mental and vital Asuras are only a deviation of that power.

[...]

The Gandharvas are of the vital plane but they are vital Gods, not Asuras. Many Asuras are beautiful in appearance and can carry even a splendour or light with them. It is the Rakshasas, Pisachas, etc. who are ugly or evil in appearance.

[...]

Some of the vital beings are very intelligent—but they do not make friends with the Light—they only try to avoid destruction and wait their time.

[...]

The hostile forces exist and have been known to Yogic experience ever since the days of the Veda and Zoroaster in Asia (and the mysteries of Egypt and Chaldea and the Cabbala) and in Europe also from old times. These things of course cannot be felt or known so long as one lives in the ordinary mind and its ideas and perceptions—for there there are only two categories of influences recognisable, the ideas and feelings and actions of oneself and others and the play of environment and physical forces. But once one begins to get the inner view of things, it is different. One begins to experience that all is an action of forces, forces of Prakriti psychological as well as physical which play upon our nature—and these are conscious forces or are supported by a consciousness or consciousnesses behind. One is in the midst of a big universal working and it is impossible any longer to explain everything as the result of one’s own sole and independent personality.

You yourself have at one time written that your crises of despair etc. came upon you as if thrown on you and worked themselves out without your being able to determine or put an end to them. That means an action of universal forces and not merely an independent action of your own personality, though it is something in your nature of which they make use. But you are not conscious, and others also, of this intervention and pressure at its source for the reason I state. Those in the Asram who have developed the inner view of things on the vital plane have plenty of experience of the hostile forces. However, you need not personally concern yourself with them so long as they remain incognito.

[...]

It is true that all comes from the Divine and it is true also that a Divine Presence and a Divine Will is behind all that happens and leads the world towards a divine goal.

At the same time it is also taught in the Gita that this world is a world of obscurity and ignorance and to attain to the Divine one must overcome certain forces of Nature, such as Desire, which the Gita calls the enemy difficult to overcome. It is in this sense that we speak of hostile forces—those which stand in the way of coming out of the Ignorance and attaining to the consciousness of the Divine.

It is again true that those who have a complete and living faith in the Divine and a perfect sincerity in their vision of the Divine everywhere and a pure sattwic nature need not trouble themselves about the hostile forces—for from them the forces of the Ignorance fall back and cannot take possession of their nature.

The teaching about the hostile forces (Asuri Rakshasi forces) is necessary for those who have a divided consciousness or a more rajasic temperament—for if they are not on their guard they may fall into the control of undesirable forces of Desire and Ego.

[...]

The psychic being, if allowed to manifest from the first in Life and lead the evolution instead of being relegated behind the veil, would have been the principle of a harmonious outflowering; everyone who has felt the psychic at work within him, freed from the vital intervention, can at once see that this would be its effect because of its unerring perception, true choice, harmonic action. If it has not been so, it is because the dark Powers have made Life a claimant instead of an instrument. The reality of the Hostiles and the nature of their role and trend of their endeavour cannot be doubted by anyone who has had his inner vision unsealed and made their unpleasant acquaintance.

[...]

It is likely that as the supramental principle evolved itself the evolution would more and more take on another aspect—the Daivic nature would predominate, the Asuro-Rakshaso-Pishachic prakriti which now holds so large a place would more and more recede and lose its power. A principle of greater unity, harmony and light would emerge everywhere. It is not that the creation in the Ignorance would be altogether abolished, but it would begin to lose much of its elements of pain and falsehood and would be more a progression from lesser to higher Truth, from a lesser to a higher harmony, from a lesser to a higher Light, than the reign of chaos and struggle, of darkness and error that we now perceive.

For according to all occult teaching the evolutionary creation could have been such but for the intervention of the Powers of Darkness—all traditions including that of the Veda and Upanishads point under different figures to the same thing. In the Upanishads it is the Daityas that smite with evil all that the gods create, in the Zoroastrian tradition it is Ahriman coming across the work of Ahura Mazda, the Chaldean tradition uses a different figure. But the significance is the same; it is the perception of something that has struck across the harmonious development of creation and brought in the principle of darkness and disorder. The occult tradition also foresees the elimination of this disturbing element by the descent of a divine Principle or Power on earth, but gives to it usually a sudden and dramatic form. I conceive that the supramental descent would effect the same event by a progressive elimination of the darkness and evolution of the Light, but with what rate of rapidity it would be rash to try to forecast or prefigure.

[...]

When there is a pressure on the vital world due to the preparing Descent from above, that world usually precipitates something of itself into the human. The vital world is very large and far exceeds the human in extent. But usually it dominates by influence not by descent. Of course the effort of this part of the vital world is always to maintain humanity under its sway and prevent the higher Light.

The vital descent cannot prevent the supramental—still less can the possessed nations do it by their material power, since the supramental descent is primarily a spiritual fact which will bear its necessary outward consequences. What previous vital descents have done is to falsify the Light that came down as in the history of Christianity where it took possession of the teaching and distorted it and deprived it of any widespread fulfilment. But the supermind is by definition a Light that cannot be distorted if it acts in its own right and by its own presence. It is only when it holds itself back and allows inferior Powers of consciousness to use a diminished and already deflected Truth that the knowledge can be seized by the vital Forces and made to serve their own purpose.

[...]

Ignorance means Avidya, the separative consciousness and the egoistic mind and life that flows from it and all that is natural to the separative consciousness and the egoistic mind and life. This Ignorance is the result of a movement by which the cosmic Intelligence separated itself from the light of Supermind (the divine Gnosis) and lost the Truth,—truth of being, truth of divine consciousness, truth of force and action, truth of Ananda. As a result instead of a world of integral truth and divine harmony created in the light of the divine Gnosis, we have a world founded on the part truths of an inferior cosmic Intelligence in which all is half truth, half error.

It is this that some of the ancient thinkers like Shankara, not perceiving the greater Truth-Force behind, stigmatised as Maya and thought to be the highest creative power of the Divine. All in the consciousness of this creation is either limited or else perverted by separation from the integral Light; even the Truth it perceives is only a half knowledge. Therefore it is called the Ignorance.

Falsehood, on the other hand, is not this Avidya, but an extreme result of it. It is created by an Asuric power which intervenes in this creation and is not only separated from the Truth and therefore limited in knowledge and open to error, but in revolt against the Truth or in the habit of seizing the Truth only to pervert it. This Power, the dark Asuric Shakti or Rakshasic Maya, puts forward its own perverted consciousness as true knowledge and its wilful distortions or reversals of the Truth as the verity of things. It is the powers and personalities of this perverted and perverting consciousness that we call hostile beings, hostile forces. Whenever these perversions created by them out of the stuff of the Ignorance are put forward as the truth of things, that is the Falsehood.

[...]

These are the forces and beings that are interested in maintaining the falsehoods they have created in the world of the Ignorance and in putting them forward as the Truth which men must follow. In India they are termed Asuras, Rakshasas, Pisachas (beings respectively of the mentalised vital, middle vital and lower vital planes)who are in opposition to the Gods, the Powers of Light. These too are Powers, for they too have their cosmic field in which they exercise their function and authority and some of them were once divine Powers who have fallen towards the Darkness by revolt against the divine Will behind the cosmos. The word “Appearances” refers to the forms they take in order to rule the world, forms often false and always incarnating falsehood, sometimes pseudo-divine.

[...]

Yes, they [the hostile forces] have their own world and, if they kept to it, there could be no objection to their existence. There is a world that is natural to them and has its own rhythm, its own dharma—just as the lesser gods have theirs. But, they want to dominate the evolution and for that purpose they have taken their station in the vital worlds which influence the earth nature and give it its materials for life.

They were created or rather manifested like other orders of being as a type or several types expressing some cosmic stress, some possibility in the Infinite, the expression of a certain kind of consciousness and force. When the work that they are permitted to do on earth, the work of negation, perversion, miscreation is finished they will be destroyed here, but there is no reason to suppose that they may not exist in their own universe, as it were, outside the system here. For here their presence is an Adharma, a disturbance of the true harmony and natural evolution there should be on the earth plane; it is an intrusion and not a natural presence.

How did the Ignorance come into being out of Sachchidananda? Or ego? The Hostile Forces in their own world embody ego self-fulfilled and having its own free play—ego on earth is not self-fulfilled and not meant to be, it is in conflict with a cosmic Force greater than itself and is only a temporary expedient for bringing forth individuality out of the indeterminateness of just conscient life and inconscient Matter.

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If there were no hostile forces and there were still the evolutionary world, there could be ignorance still but not perversity in the ignorance. All would be a partial truth acting through imperfect instruments but for the best purposes of this or that stage in a progressive manifestation.

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The mere intensity of the force does not show that it is a bad power; the Divine Force often works with a great intensity. Everything depends on the nature of the force and its working; what does it do, what seems to be its purpose? If it works to purify or open the system, or brings with it light or peace or prepares the change of the thought, ideas, feelings, character in the sense of a turning towards a higher consciousness, then it is the right force. If it is dark or obscure or perturbs the being with rajasic or egoistic suggestions or excites the lower nature, then it is an adverse Force.

[...]

The hostiles have themselves bodies though not of a gross physical kind—they see, but with a subtle seeing that includes not only bodies, but movements of forces, thoughts, feelings.

[...]

Very great [are the occult powers of the hostile beings]—it is their occult powers and knowledge of occult processes that make them so strong and effective.

[...]

The lesser forces of Light are usually too much insistent on seeking for Truth to make effectivity their logic or their rule—the hostiles are too pragmatic to care for Truth, they want only success. As for the greater Forces (e.g. Overmind) they are dynamic and try always to make consciousness effective, but they insist on consciousness, while the hostiles care nothing for that—the more unconscious you are and their automatic tool, the better they are pleased—for it is unconsciousness that gives them their chance.

[...]

The universe is certainly or has been up to now in appearance a rough and wasteful game with the dice of chance loaded in favour of the Powers of darkness, the Lords of obscurity, falsehood, death and suffering. But we have to take it as it is and find out—if we reject the way out of the old sages—the way to conquer. Spiritual experience shows that there is behind it all a wide terrain of equality, peace, calm, freedom, and it is only by getting into it that we can have the eye that sees and hope to gain the power that conquers.

[...]

It [the adverse force] is the Power that keeps up ignorance and darkness in the world—it can only be destroyed when mankind is no longer in love with ignorance and darkness. Each sadhak has to push it out of contact with his being. When it has gone from him, then there will be no longer any serious difficulties in his sadhana.

[...]

The evil forces are perversions of the Truth by the Ignorance—in any complete transformation they must disappear and the Truth behind them be delivered. In this way they can be said to be transformed by destruction.

[...]

The Gods are Personalities or Powers put forth by the Divine—they are therefore in front limited Emanations, although the full Divine is behind each of them.

Of course, the gods exist—that is to say, there are Powers that stand above the world and transmit the divine workings. It is the physical mind which believes only in what is physical that denies them. There are also beings of other worlds—gods and Asuras etc.

There are Gods everywhere on all the planes.

[...]

While the Gods cannot be transformed, for they are typal and not evolutionary beings, they can come for conversion—that is to say, to give up their own ideas and outlook on things and conform themselves to the higher Will and supramental Truth of the Divine.

The higher beings are not likely to be in disharmony with each other as they are not subject to the lower ignorance.

The Gods have their own enjoyments, though they may not be of a material character.

[...]

The natives of the Overmind are Gods. Naturally the Gods rule the cosmos.

The Overmind is the world of the Gods and the Gods are not merely Powers, but have Forms also.

In the Overmind the Gods are still separated existences.

The Formateurs of the Overmind have shaped nothing evil—it is the lower forces that receive from the Overmind and distort its forces.

[...]

As far as I can see, once the supramental is established in Matter, the transformation will be possible undermuch less troublesome conditions than now are there. These bad conditions are due to the fact that the Ignorance is in possession and the hostile Powers an established authority, as it were, who do not care to give up their hold and there is no full force of Light established in the earth consciousness which would not only meet but outweigh their full force of darkness.

It is the darkest nights that prepare the greatest dawns—and it is so because it is into the deep inconscience of material life that we have to bring, not an intermediate glimmer, but the full glory of the divine Light.

[...]

This aim suggested to you seems to be part of a seeking for occult powers; such a seeking is looked on with disfavour for the most part by spiritual teachers in India because it belongs to the inferior planes and usually pushes the seeker on a path which may lead him very far from the Divine. Especially, a contact with the forces and beings of the astral (or, as we term it, the vital) plane is attended with great dangers.

The beings of this plane are often hostile to the true aim of spiritual life and establish contact with the seeker and offer him powers and occult experiences only in order that they may lead him away from the spiritual path or else that they may establish their own control over him or take possession of him for their own purpose. Often, representing themselves as divine powers, they mislead, give erring suggestions and impulsions and pervert the inner life.

Many are those who, attracted by these powers and beings of the vital plane, have ended in a definitive spiritual fall or in mental and physical perversion and disorder. One comes inevitably into contact with the vital plane and enters into it in the expansion of consciousness which results from an inner opening, but one ought never to put oneself into the hands of these beings and forces or allow oneself to be led by their suggestions and impulsions. This is one of the chief dangers of the spiritual life and to be on one’s guard against it is a necessity for the seeker if he wishes to arrive at his goal.

[...]

Ordinarily, all the more inward and all the abnormal psychological experiences are called psychic. I use the word psychic for the soul as distinguished from the mind and vital. All movements and experiences of the soul would in that sense be called psychic, those which rise from or directly touch the psychic being; where mind and vital predominate, the experience would be called psychological (surface or occult). “Spiritual” has nothing to do with the Absolute, except that the experience of the Absolute is spiritual. All contacts with self, the higher consciousness, the Divine above are spiritual. There are others that could not be so sharply classified and set off against each other.

The spiritual realisation is of primary importance and indispensable. I would consider it best to have the spiritual and psychic development first and have it with the same fullness before entering the occult regions. Those who enter the latter first may find their spiritual realisation much delayed—others fall into the mazy traps of the occult and do not come out in this life. Some no doubt can carry on both together, the occult and the spiritual, and make them help each other; but the process I suggest is the safer.

The governing factors for us must be the spirit and the psychic being united with the Divine—the occult laws and phenomena have to be known but only as an instrumentation, not as the governing principles. The occult is a vast field and complicated and not without its dangers. It need not be abandoned but it should not be given the first place.

[...]

A sincere heart is worth all the extraordinary powers in the world.

Sri Aurobindo

Source: Letters on Yoga

The entire book is proving to be entirely refreshing. Sharing it with you, there's a lot of wisdom inside -- various topics, all spiritual in essence.

Excerpts from, The Advent of Ahriman, by Robert Mason:

This being is called "Ahriman" (from the ancient Persian name Angra Mainyu, given by the prehistoric Zarathustra). We might consider Ahriman to be the same being usually called "Satan", except that the concept of "Satan" is much confused and misunderstood. Therefore, in this essay I will use the name "Ahriman", and will attempt to give a clearer understanding of his nature and aims than generally obtains.

[...]

A full explanation of the nature of Ahriman and his incarnation is far beyond the scope of this essay (as well as beyond the understanding of this author). If I only give enough of an explanation so that the readers become conscious enough to see the necessity, and to have the means, of becoming more conscious about these matters, then I will have fulfilled my purpose.

[...]

Since Ahriman is a spirit of opposition, we might begin to understand his nature by understanding what he opposes: the Gods' plan of earthly and human development. But the situation is not as simple as a two-sided contest; basic to competent understanding of the world-process is the recognition of at least three kinds of spiritual influence upon the evolution of mankind and the cosmos.

(We must be clear that this "evolution" is something very different from the random, meaningless, material process conceived by the neo-Darwinists and suchlike theorists. I mean by "evolution" a thoroughly purposeful, thought-filled process of development initiated and guided by spiritual beings.)

[...]

In the present, fifth cultural epoch the Ahrimanic influence in human culture is reaching a climax. The modern scientific revolution, since the fifteenth century, has been inspired largely by Ahriman. He is the inspirer of amoral, atheistic, mechanistic materialism, and the kind of cleverness that goes with it.

[...]

To the modern mind it might seem a contradiction to say Ahriman opposes increased consciousness but promotes intelligence and science. This is because the modern mind is so immured in what is generally considered to be "scientific thinking" that it has almost no conception of the true nature of conscious thinking.

(Steiner, especially in his book Die Philosophie der Freiheit [1894], has been our teacher of real thinking, but the general intellectual culture has not learned the lesson.)

The fact is that the "scientific" thinking normal in this epoch, no matter how clever, is hardly conscious at all (possibly with some relatively rare exceptions at moments of "insight" or mathematical discovery). In the kind of consciousness usual in our "scientific" culture, we become conscious only of the fixed results of the thinking, after it has been accomplished; we are not (usually) conscious of the thinking-process itself.

And since it is unconscious, it is not our free action; it is automatic. When we think in the manner usual in our epoch, we are sentient automata, acting from instinct.

[...]

As indicated, Ahriman is the inspirer of the most extreme kind of "scientific" materialism: the doctrine that there is no spirit or soul in the world; that life itself is not in fact alive, but is only a complex of mechanical processes; that reality is at base only quantitative, that there is no reality in the qualitative -- color, sound, etc.; even that the human's inner being is a confluence of material forces.

On the emotional level, he works in the human subconscious instincts, inspiring fear, hatred, lust for power, and destructive sex impulses. On the mental level, he inspires rigid, automatic thinking: (in Steiner's phrase) thinking almost entirely without thoughts, but thinking tremendously strongly in the language, in the literal words, which easily become empty words, which in turn easily become lies.

[...]

A very interesting theory (by David B. Black) interprets the progressive mechanization of culture not only as an Ahrimanic influence, but as the actual "macrocosmic incarnation" of Ahriman: This is being brought to completion through the development of the electronic computer. Black traces the milestones in the evolution of the computer as reflections of the spiritual events in the heavens.

[...]

As is well-known, the development of the electronic computer proceeded exponentially, from von Neumann's development of the "stored program" to the desktop and the laptop. A lesser-known development was the "Josephson effect", which allows the construction of semi-conductors from superconducting materials. Thus, electrical circuits can operate without "Luciferic" heat, and Ahriman, whose nature is "freezing cold", can completely enter into electrical devices.

As superconducting computers become more common, Ahrimanic beings higher than "elementals" might actually incarnate in them, since no physical energy is consumed in a superconducting circuit. (Ahrimanic "elemental spirits" inhabit our artificial machines, just as normal "elementals" work in and throughout the living processes of Nature.) Black sums up: "Sunless light and Wordless logic intertwined, and out of them came the computer."

Thus, while Ahriman incarnates "microcosmically" in a human body, we might also face the "macrocosmic" literal incarnation of Ahriman in our machines.

Source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...n.htm#Contents

[william r sanford72]

ahriman in our machines..funny how that last statement kinda blew everything else away.wonderful work jeffrey.brilliant!
william.