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    (This one is older...but it conveys much)...I enjoy it, the 'peace' surrounding...beautiful.

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    I happen to be pretty immersed in this subject, personally as well. My great grandmother was full Cherokee. I'm not sure what '%' that makes me, but I understand from a friend who is a card-carrying Cherokee Cheif (female--Cherokees are matriarchal) that Cherokee Nation will accept you as a member if you rightfully claim ANY percentage of their blood. Cherokees are currently the largest Amerind group in this country, in population and land holdings. There is a Cherokee reservation here in East Texas (Cherokee County). True, they are as poor as any other indian group--but I think some of that is due to a lack of education/understanding of how to manage economics (probably an alien concept to them at core). I further believe Caucasian and indian races have been pitted against each other like all other groups to keep us 'endarkened'; they've only been robbed and pillaged, cheated and lied to more successfully than with other racial groups because they are less duplicitous than other groups and don't see it coming, and being less ruled by materialism, are perplexed by all the slick maneuvering by the toxic-level greedy.

    Being a citizen of the great southwest, I've observed that what has worked best to reverse or mitigate this unhappy situation is the Indian nations themselves' efforts to open their culture and teachings to the other races. When I lived in New Mexico, I frequently visited both the fabulou--and quite successful for many years--Apache-owned Inn of the Mountain Gods Resort and Casinos, but also nearby Mescalero, NM, the center of the Apache reservation there. They allowed outsiders to witness and sometimes even participate in a number of their festivals and ceremonies. The many young white Americans who flocked to these, most notably in the southwestern part of the country, but also other parts as well, and proudly emulated Indian ways and brought their art, music and culture into their lives has done more to preserve their ways than any institution or government. I acted as a docent at an Indian Culture museum, but that was never as powerful an experience for visitors as visiting these fascinating peoples in their own homes and gatherings. From my perspective, this gradual reseeding of their culture into (white) America's is slowly taking over and reclaining their rightful place. I understand the anguish over their abuse and perpetual poverty, though--and it looks like we could be brought to the same out of our own apathy about it. Looks like they will have the 'last laugh' by being the very ones able to instruct us on how to survive it...

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    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    in California, they all are getting $10,000 a month to help them survive...

    Indian Casinos have really changed their lives, so is easy wealth changing them for the better?

    giving them what they need to get educated and move from the reservations into big cities, or are they still living in the same run down homes, not spending it on bettering themselves? Is it teaching them greed and appreciation of stuff that really means nothing?

    are they pooling their money to make life better for other indigenous Indians, or are they keeping it for themselves?

    I'm sure most of you have never heard of this, I just recently found out about it myself...
    I do not get a dime. My friend, I do not think of it in terms of money.. There is no dollar figure that can ever be paid. Many tribes are getting tribal assistance in many ways. Of course Casinos are a big change for tribal wealth. But there has been a big change in lots of ways including education, and especially healthcare. I have heard of cash payments to tribal members,, but I wouldn't assume that it is like that with every Tribe, in every 'State'. I could be wrong. I would really disagree with putting it in 'us and them' terms. American Indians are Americans too!! By the definition of the term,, we are ALL Native Americans. Putting it in terms of money, will always distract and deter from the Spirit of cultural/tribal peoples. There is no definition of restitution that will ever exist. One cannot change history. I would not assume that the Indian Nations are lost and confused!! (I am not saying that you ARE,, I am trying to be more general) I would be interested to know how it works from Tribe to Tribe. I do not understand how it would matter what State a Tribe is in.. ?? Is it a State benefit?? I don't quite understand many of the details. I am still learning...

    Jake.
    Jake,

    These are all good questions. In monetary gain, especially. Unfortunately, there was a point-in-time (as everyone knows) when the indigenous people had no concept of $. Now...I do not think it would be possible to survive anywhere on the planet without insurmountable struggle (given the loss of 'natural' free land) without money.

    History cannot be changed. VERY true. But, I do think that many of histories 'wrongs' could be 'righted.' For example, Bill Clinton was going to grant Leonard Peltier clemency-freeing him and forgiving injustice; however failed to do so because (from my understanding) it was against the wishes of many of his largest contributors. The current owner of wounded Knee has asked for a ridiculous sum for the land. The poorest people among us could never raise that much, acquiring land which is sacred to them (and should be given back to them without purchase).

    Indigenous Americans are Americans too, yet they are considered by the federal U.S government as (among the different tribal 'nations') as domestic dependent nations. This is where it becomes confusing because it sounds as if...hey...they can live the way they want to with the support of tribal council, ect. But that is not the case at all. For example, laws that protect most U.S citizens surrounding reservations do not apply to them. Such as laws concerning power/gas/electricity. During winter months, when the temperature drops to 'freezing' there is a law that those who are unable to pay their bill will not be subject to having their power shut off due to the inherent threat of survival under such conditions. Well...this law does not apply to reservation inhabitants who receive power from state run power companies. So, you can imagine what happens to them. No power...freezing to death. How this affects those on machines that allow them to breathe/support life, ect.

    I find it peculiar...why this information is hidden from the general public (from 2009, but has anything changed????):

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    This picture shows the spirit of the Bear. Corey,, this is for you!!!! Reminds me of your strength and courage.

    Members of the Anitsiskwa, or Bird Clan, were historically known as messengers. The belief that birds are messengers between earth and heaven, or the People and Creator, gave the members of this clan the responsibility of caring for the birds. The subdivisions were Raven, Turtledove, and Eagle, probably in origin three separate clans later consolidated into one. Earned Eagle feathers were originally presented by the members of this clan, as they were the only ones able to collect them.

    I cherish the experience of being a lost bird. I am beginning to understand what it means to be part of this tradition.




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    Chief Arvol Looking Horse, of the Sioux Nation has taken a lead with addressing humanity with regards the Fukashima disaster. Perhaps we should swap political leadership in America with Native American Spiritual leaders within the Indian Nations. Just for a day,, and see what happens.







    People of the Earth Address the Fukashima Crisis.

    I will be keeping my eye on this..

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    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    Chief Arvol Looking Horse, of the Sioux Nation has taken a lead with addressing humanity with regards the Fukashima disaster. Perhaps we should swap political leadership in America with Native American Spiritual leaders within the Indian Nations. Just for a day,, and see what happens.







    People of the Earth Address the Fukashima Crisis.

    I will be keeping my eye on this..

    Jake.




    Not for just one day!
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    Just a follow up... Chief Arvol Looking Horse of the Sioux Nation Addressed the Fukashima crisis with an open statement to all peoples of all walks of life...


    Here is the PDF...


    Quote Council Statement
    This statement reflects the wisdom of the Spiritual People of the Earth, of North and South America, working in unity to restore peace, harmony and balance for our collective future and for all living beings. This statement is written in black and white with a foreign language that is not our own and does not convey the full depth of our concerns. The Creator created the People of the Earth into the Land at the beginning of Creation and gave us a way of life. This way of life has been passed down generation-to-generation since the beginning. We have not honored this way of life through our own actions and we must live these original instructions in order to restore universal balance and harmony. We are a part of Creation;
    thus, if we break the Laws of Creation, we destroy ourselves.

    We, the Original Caretakers of Mother Earth, have no choice but to follow and uphold the Original Instructions, which sustains the continuity of Life. We recognize our umbilical connection to Mother Earth and understand that she is the source of life, not a resource to be exploited. We speak on behalf of all Creation today, to communicate an urgent message that man has gone too far, placing us in the state of survival. We warned that one day you would not be able to control what you have created. That day is here.

    Not heeding warnings from both Nature and the People of the Earth keeps us on the path of self destruction. This self destructive path has led to the Fukushima nuclear crisis, Gulf oil spill, tar sands devastation, pipeline failures, impacts of carbon dioxide emissions and the destruction of ground water through hydraulic fracking, just to name a few. In addition, these activities and development continue to cause the deterioration and destruction of sacred places and sacred waters that are vital for Life.

    Powerful technologies are out of control and are threatening the future of all life
    The Fukushima nuclear crisis alone is a threat to the future of humanity. Yet, our concern goes far beyond this single threat. Our concern is with the cumulative and
    compounding devastation that is being wrought by the actions of human beings around the world. It is the combination of resource extraction, genetically modified organisms, moral failures, pollution, introduction of invasive species and much much more that are threatening the future of life on Earth. The compounding of bad decisions and their corresponding actions are extremely short-sighted. They do not consider the future generations and they do not respect or honor the Creator’s Natural Law.

    We strongly urge for the governmental authorities to respond with an open invitation to work and consult with us to solve the world’s problems, without war. We must stop waging war against Mother Earth, and ourselves.

    We acknowledge that all of these devastating actions originated in human beings who are living without regard for the Earth as the source of life. They have strayed from the Original Instructions by casting aside the Creator’s Natural Law. It is now critical for humanity to acknowledge that we have created a path to self destruction. We must recover our sacred relationship with the spirit of the water. Our sacred instructions has been violated. As a result, the Spiritual
    People of the Earth were called ceremonially to come together at the home of the Sacred White Buffalo Calf Pipe Bundle. These Spiritual Leaders and those that carry great responsibility for their people from both North and South America came together with the sacred fire for four days at the end of September 2013 to fulfill their sacred responsibilities.

    During this time it was revealed that the spirit of destruction gained its’ strength by our spiritually disconnected actions. We are all responsible in varying degrees for calling forth this spirit of destruction, thus we are all bound to begin restoring what we have damaged by helping one another recover our sacred responsibility to the Earth. We, the Original Caretakers of Mother Earth, offer our spiritual insight, wisdom and vision to the global community to help guide the actions needed to overcome the current threats to all life. We only have to look at our own bodies to recognize the sacred purpose of water on Mother Earth. We respect and honor our spiritual relationship with the lifeblood of Mother Earth. One does not sell or contaminate their mother’s blood. These capitalistic actions must stop and we must recover our sacred relationship with the Spirit of Water The People of the Earth understand that the Fukushima nuclear crisis continues to threaten the future of all life. We understand the full implications of this crisis even with the suppression of information and the filtering of truth by the corporate owned media and Nation States. We strongly urge the media, corporations and Nation States to acknowledge and convey the true facts that threaten us, so that the international community may work together to resolve this crisis, based on the foundation of Truth.

    We urge the international community, government of Japan and TEPCO to unify efforts to stabilize and re-mediate the nuclear threat posed at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant. To ensure that the Japanese government and TEPCO are supported with qualified personnel and information, we urge the inclusion of today’s nuclear experts from around the world to collaborate, advise and provide technical assistance to prevent further radioactive contamination or worse, a nuclear explosion that may have apocalyptic consequences. The foundation for peace will be strengthened by restoring the Original Instructions in ourselves


    Prophecies have been shared and sacred instructions were given. We, the People of the Earth, were instructed that the original wisdom must be shared again when imbalance and disharmony are upon Mother Earth. In 1994 the sacred white buffalo, the giver of the sacred pipe, returned to the Lakota, Dakota and Nakota people bringing forth the sacred message that the winds of change are here. Since that time many more messengers in the form of white animals have come, telling us to wake up my children into Life as sacred beings. When we abuse the
    sacredness of Life we affect all Creation We urge all Nations and human beings around the world to work with us, the Original Caretakers of Mother Earth, to restore the Original Instructions and uphold the Creator’s Natural Law as a foundation for all decision making, from this point forward.

    Our collective future as human beings is in our hands, we must address the Fukushima nuclear crisis and all actions that may violate the Creator’s Natural Law. We have reached the crossroads of life and the end of our existence. We will avert this potentially catastrophic nuclear disaster by coming together with good minds and prayer as a global community of all faiths.

    We are the People of the Earth united under the Creator’s Law with a sacred covenant to protect and a responsibility to extend Life for all future generations. We are expressing deep concern for our shared future and urge everyone to awaken spiritually. We must work in unity to help Mother Earth heal so that she can bring back balance and harmony for all her children.
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    Just thought I'd share...

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    Hello K,
    I think you would enjoy my Native American Thread... Take a look when you have time. I know you are new and are checking out a lot of different avenues...


    Thread: Personal accounts of Native Americans and “Star People”
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Star-People--

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    Not many people knew, but Johnny Cash was a large advocate for protecting Native American rights. He dedicated an entire album, Bitter Tears, to their plight.

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    Sharing a thought for the day. Love to all peoples of all lands,,, Jake.

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    Quote Posted by Aquarius Rising (here)
    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    in California, they all are getting $10,000 a month to help them survive...

    Indian Casinos have really changed their lives, so is easy wealth changing them for the better?

    giving them what they need to get educated and move from the reservations into big cities, or are they still living in the same run down homes, not spending it on bettering themselves? Is it teaching them greed and appreciation of stuff that really means nothing?

    are they pooling their money to make life better for other indigenous Indians, or are they keeping it for themselves?

    I'm sure most of you have never heard of this, I just recently found out about it myself...
    I do not get a dime. My friend, I do not think of it in terms of money.. There is no dollar figure that can ever be paid. Many tribes are getting tribal assistance in many ways. Of course Casinos are a big change for tribal wealth. But there has been a big change in lots of ways including education, and especially healthcare. I have heard of cash payments to tribal members,, but I wouldn't assume that it is like that with every Tribe, in every 'State'. I could be wrong. I would really disagree with putting it in 'us and them' terms. American Indians are Americans too!! By the definition of the term,, we are ALL Native Americans. Putting it in terms of money, will always distract and deter from the Spirit of cultural/tribal peoples. There is no definition of restitution that will ever exist. One cannot change history. I would not assume that the Indian Nations are lost and confused!! (I am not saying that you ARE,, I am trying to be more general) I would be interested to know how it works from Tribe to Tribe. I do not understand how it would matter what State a Tribe is in.. ?? Is it a State benefit?? I don't quite understand many of the details. I am still learning...

    Jake.
    Jake,

    These are all good questions. In monetary gain, especially. Unfortunately, there was a point-in-time (as everyone knows) when the indigenous people had no concept of $. Now...I do not think it would be possible to survive anywhere on the planet without insurmountable struggle (given the loss of 'natural' free land) without money.

    History cannot be changed. VERY true. But, I do think that many of histories 'wrongs' could be 'righted.' For example, Bill Clinton was going to grant Leonard Peltier clemency-freeing him and forgiving injustice; however failed to do so because (from my understanding) it was against the wishes of many of his largest contributors. The current owner of wounded Knee has asked for a ridiculous sum for the land. The poorest people among us could never raise that much, acquiring land which is sacred to them (and should be given back to them without purchase).

    Indigenous Americans are Americans too, yet they are considered by the federal U.S government as (among the different tribal 'nations') as domestic dependent nations. This is where it becomes confusing because it sounds as if...hey...they can live the way they want to with the support of tribal council, ect. But that is not the case at all. For example, laws that protect most U.S citizens surrounding reservations do not apply to them. Such as laws concerning power/gas/electricity. During winter months, when the temperature drops to 'freezing' there is a law that those who are unable to pay their bill will not be subject to having their power shut off due to the inherent threat of survival under such conditions. Well...this law does not apply to reservation inhabitants who receive power from state run power companies. So, you can imagine what happens to them. No power...freezing to death. How this affects those on machines that allow them to breathe/support life, ect.

    I find it peculiar...why this information is hidden from the general public (from 2009, but has anything changed????):

    Thanks for the vid/link... The Crow Creek Sioux have recently begun planning a windpower alternative to the problem with electricity. Apparently, Tribal lands are not privy to the Seasonal Determination Protection under U.S. Law,, and The power companies simply turn off the electricity during the winters. The Crow Creek Sioux are an impoverished nation.

    Another Blow to the Crow Creek Sioux is a recent dispute in a local high school..

    its high school wouldn’t allow a Sioux honor song to be performed during its recent late-May graduation—even though about one-third of the student body is Native, and there’s a petition signed by staff and students requesting it. The song was eventually presented, but outdoors, across the street, rather than inside at the ceremony.



    This land is a former prison camp.

    The Sioux in this area have embarked in a Boycott of any commerce in the border towns.

    You can read the full story here!!!

    Business owners in Chamberlain are outraged, speaking out against 'federal subsidies' to the tribe. These same outraged Business owners receive outrageous subsidies from the Federal government.
    The same greedy hypocrisy that was hell bent on destroying Indigenous Peoples in America,,, Seems to be Alive and well in the America that lives TODAY!!!!

    Again, I blame greed and ignorance. I blame the radical government that imposed its laws on my people, the taking of our guns, and the attempted genocide of an inhabited continent. The same radical government is Alive and Well....

    I digress...

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    This so true. I have always respected and admired indigenous americans and somehow I feel deep spiritual connection to them. One psychic once told me that it is becouse I have been native american shamen in many of my past lives. Truth remains mystery, as other source says that this is my first incarnation on Earth. Anyway...

    What I really dont understand, is that how can those people who came from Europe and took lands still oppress natives and not apologize the terrors they did. They are the real illegal aliens.

    I wish I someday could visit native american lands to see if I experience deja vu or something.

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    Sharing a thought for the day. Love to all peoples of all lands,,, Jake.


    Great statement..

    I feel for the Indians, their tale, since meeting us, has been a cycle or broken record of promises never kept.. The fact that some of them get government aid for their troubles is neither here or there.. Imagine if we gave money to any group of culturally ignored or dispossessed individuals, only the smallest fraction would use the money for the betterment of others, most would just get drunk and try to forget about their existence..

    My feeling is that the tricks played upon the Indians are not too dissimilar to those being pulled on us and with the rest of the world today. The fact remains that a lot of foreign people today, seem to think they own our resources, so it's our job, collectively speaking, to correct them, move them, integrate them or kill them...

    How else are we going to get our hands on "our" stuff under "their" feet???

    We are all impoverished Indians today, corralled within our respective reservations, it's time for us to see each other as family, or we will continue to be treated and treat others like strangers... Love is the way... N

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    Wholesale slaughter and annihilation of the indigenous souls of this planet has been going on since the alien interlopers landed here and developed the system of banking. The slaughter of the buffalo who at one time were so plentiful you could walk across their backs to cross the plains. The Indians were driven from their lands, herded into inhospitable places where they could not feed themselves, given blankets with smallpox on them, starved to death, and shot in cold blood. All of them, every tribe and every nation.



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