Crazy China! Forty People Broke into the 4th Branch of Our Community Without Any Lawful Documents!

[Anchor]

Posted by xidaijena (here)
Hi dear, because of the strong faith in God (the Greatest Creator), we, chanyuan celestials of Lifechanyuan, would never feel desperate. Life on Mother Earth is just a short journey to have fun. We treat all these crazy events as interesting games to play. The physical body isn't what we truly are. Yes, we know the governments are seeing us very carefully including the centre governments. They just wait and see what we will do when facing such a calamity. I don't know what the next game for us to play is, either. But I'm very sure that we can't be the next Tibet. Our time ( the time we leave Mother Earth) has not come, we still have some missions in the coming era.

You can help us by signing the petition and if you knows media people who can report the event happening in our community, such as oversea medias, newspapers, websites or any medias that can spread such an event to the world.

Thank you for your metal support, that's enough for us. Hugs to you.

Would you please consider asking Avalon directly for help in a more metaphysical way ?

If you do can you please confirm:

1) what it is that you actually want to happen - you envisioned outcome

2) that you have the consent to represent your group in this way and that you may permit us to act on their behalf

Avalon may be able to help you in a more effective way than signing petitions.

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May the light you clearly already have be multiplied and spread.

[Rocky_Shorz]

from most of your web pages is written...

I am from China. I go around with some important information on the coming new era - Lifechanyuan era after 2013 for those lucky ones!

Xuefeng (Deiform Buddha),the messenger of the Greatest Creator, sincerely following Revelation ,commit himself to the foundation of Lifechanyuan in the mortal world and implementation of all religions will return to the origin-the Greatest Creator, for the purpose of redeeming the living beings and "gathering ripe crops" who 100% believes in Jesus Christ and Buddha.

I'm not sure everyone understands what this mission statement means...

Xuefeng who brought Buddhism back to China over 1000 years ago, has committed himself to building these types of communities?

mentioning Revelation and gathering ripe crops of Buddhist and Christians...

how does the purple robe "Grand Master of the True Enlightenment" relate to Revelation and end times?

[xidaijena]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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My sincere thanks indeed for sharing this important story -- from the other side of the world from many of us! I'm very glad you are here with us on Avalon. The perspective you can provide can help us all a very great deal.

There's some evidence to suggest that communities like yours are regarded as potential threats by authorities in almost every country. Avalon member giovonni, who lives with James Gilliand on his ranch community ECETI, in Washington State in the Northwest USA, will be happy to tell the story about how James's community was also attacked by local authorities with an apparent agenda to take him down.

Giovonni reports regularly from James' ranch, on this thread:

Up At The Ranch And Beyond

It's almost like a kind of religious persecution, that's been going on for thousands of years in every culture. If you are 'different', and are seeking to live your life according to different principles, values and beliefs, that's always a threat to the control system of the state. It's seen throughout history, and it's a kind of archetype: that's also why that very theme is at the center of the storyline of so many Hollywood movies (the most recent of those is The Hunger Games). Everyone recognizes it. It's always there.

I wish you well in everything you're doing. It feels important, and it also feels very important that you're able to thrive and succeed in your vision. We salute you and all your friends. Please let them know that there are people now in Australia, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, India, and both North and South America (and other places too!) who are all supporting you.

The above image is taken from the movie The Hunger Games. I can't know if you have seen this in China. The heroine, Katniss Everdeen, makes a three-fingered salute to the millions that are watching her in the televised fight-to-the-death contest -- inspiring a revolution as she does so.

Hi dear brother Bill, it's my big surprise to see your warm and encouraging words to my post and community. Thank you for creating such a nice spiritual forum here. I like it very much, though we also have an English forum, yours is far more attractive.

Thank you for your sharing, I will ask giovonni about the story, yes, I have checked his post and ECETI, I will see more later. Quite agree with you, new thoughts are always full of challenge to the old and narrow ones!

Yesterday, they damaged our waterpipe and our sisters went out to fix it today, but they destroyed it again and broke another waterpipe just after we finished and went home! How dare they are! Wow, they really want us to die now!( I will post some pics later)

Though the situation becomes worse and worse, all of us here are very well for we have strong faith in God. When hearing and seeing all your mental supports here, all that I can say is that thank and praise God. I didn't watch the movie, but I like the image very much! Thank you very much.

I hope more kind people will know the whole event happened in my community through your great forum, and I hope God will give us enough peace and courage and time to protect our community which is the beautiful wish for all human beings.

May God bless us! Hugs to all of you here!

[xidaijena]

Posted by christian (here)
Like a pack of jealous hyenas!

I'm very sorry to hear this. Thank you for your efforts, Jena, you're stellar!

It may surprise many, but homeowners' rights seem to be quite well protected in China, judging by what happened in the case of a man who owned a building right where a highway was supposed to be constructed. He had the right to keep his house or be compensated. Eventually he agreed to the latter.

If there's vicious people from the local authorities against you, maybe then it's appropriate to let the central government know that local authorities are abusing their power, which would be something that the central government would not want. – 天高皇帝远

In a case like yours, you just gotta think strategically, because being in the right morally doesn't help you when push comes to shove. You gotta see who could have an interest in helping you or who could have an interest in pushing back those who attack you. Find out what leverage you have, who your allies could be, very pragmatically, and go for it, gently but firmly.

Good luck, always!

Hi dear christian, thank you for your kind words, oh, I see that pic, very very interesting. They surrounded by highway demolished? I don't hope to see such things happened in my beauitiful community for we are not building on highway.



You guess sooo right, there're vicious people from the local authorities against us. This is why we try our best to spread the events on the Internet. We feel so sad of Chinese people's indifference.

So can you offer your moral help us to sign and spread the our petition on Avaaz to save our community?

Chinese President Xi Jinping: Save China’s Largest Ecovillage!

http://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/...est_ecovillage

If you know media people who can report the event happening in our community, such as oversea medias, newspapers, websites or any medias that can spread such an event to the world , please tell us:

Email: lifechanyuan@sina.cn ( contact: Tongxin / Conglong / Ailian)

Thank you very much! Hugs.

[xidaijena]

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by xidaijena (here)
Hi dear, because of the strong faith in God (the Greatest Creator), we, chanyuan celestials of Lifechanyuan, would never feel desperate. Life on Mother Earth is just a short journey to have fun. We treat all these crazy events as interesting games to play. The physical body isn't what we truly are. Yes, we know the governments are seeing us very carefully including the centre governments. They just wait and see what we will do when facing such a calamity. I don't know what the next game for us to play is, either. But I'm very sure that we can't be the next Tibet. Our time ( the time we leave Mother Earth) has not come, we still have some missions in the coming era.

You can help us by signing the petition and if you knows media people who can report the event happening in our community, such as oversea medias, newspapers, websites or any medias that can spread such an event to the world.

Thank you for your metal support, that's enough for us. Hugs to you.

Would you please consider asking Avalon directly for help in a more metaphysical way ?

If you do can you please confirm:

1) what it is that you actually want to happen - you envisioned outcome

2) that you have the consent to represent your group in this way and that you may permit us to act on their behalf

Avalon may be able to help you in a more effective way than signing petitions.

--

May the light you clearly already have be multiplied and spread.

Hi dear Anchor, thank you for your quick and great advice, yes, I do really hope Avalon can help us in a more effective way. Yes, we can confirm, can you give me some e-mails? I can ask our sisters and founder Xuefeng to contact them and confirm more detailed. Thank you sooo much. Love & Hugs to you!

[xidaijena]

Posted by Nasu (here)
Thank you for posting this, like Bill said your vision and situation are special, the work you do is important, thank you. I do not know the locals as you do, nor do I have the understandings that you do, regarding the local political or cultural environment, but I do have one small piece of advice, for what it's worth.

Your old countryman Master Zi or Sun Zu pointed out that if you are weak yet occupy a central position, either geographically or mentally, you should put great effort to make ally's and friends! Make ally's of your neighbor wherever you can. If one or two remain firmly against your position, with work and time, they will become the minority.

Let your enemies plot, while you focus your intentions instead on helping people OUTSIDE of your community, with the support of your wider community you undermine their strength.

Together we are stronger. Love to you, your family and your mission...x... N (holding up one hand with three finger salute)

Hi dear Nasu, thank you for your advice, but now it's not we who make ally's of our neighbor but the vicious authorities of local government. Just now(About 1:44 pm in my place) there came about 10 people to kick and break the asbestos in front of our gate very quickly, running and shouting at us. They want to scare us. How crazy they are! We just took some pics of the broken asbestos.Their ridiculous behaviors reminded me of those naughty kids in my childhood.

If you know some media people who can report the event happening in our community, such as oversea medias, newspapers, websites or any medias that can spread such an event to the world , please do tell us, we need it urgently:

Email: lifechanyuan@sina.cn ( contact: Tongxin / Conglong / Ailian)

Thank you very much! Hugs.

[xidaijena]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
we can spread the word , the one thing leaders fear the most , being treated like celebrity , shinning the light on them , making them famous around the world ...thus exposing their dirty deeds ... .

Your words make me smile, dear ghostrider. Thank you for your spreading, that's a great help for us now. Yes, we will shine our light very brightly to expose their dirty deeds. May more peace and courage be given from God. Hugs to you!

[xidaijena]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
Hello Xidaijena


While i empithise with your situation whats needed right now is to effect fast counter measures to ensure your safety.

Firstly what is being done to repair and fortify your front gate ? If it can be kicked in so easily then you may risk a return attack.

Secondly how many men do you have in your community ?

As part of your community do you learn self defence ? Any sort of dicipline to encourage strength and confidence ?

What i can see is a long narrow path to your front gate ? this is good , its important to make the front door hard to get into. This will bide you time in future and also act as a deterrant.

Its no use relying on police etc .. half of these mean are possibly off duty police officers.

Either way i would put in an official complaint with photos and lodge it at your local station then lodge one with your local UN civil rights station.

Dont rely on them to help ,assume they will do nothing, in the mean time fortify your home to make it less of a target.

N

Hi dear Nanoo Nanoo, thank you for your kind advice. Yes, you're so right. We have already fortified our front gate and some brothers watch it very carefully. We have 17 brothers and 35 sisters living in my branch (the 4th branch). Well, I had learnt some defence in the outside world. But we will only use civilized ways to fight with them. If they really want to dismiss us by force, may be we will lose our physical bodies. But I believe God will protect us to continue the mission in the new era.

BTW...Can you offer your moral help us to sign and spread the our petition on Avaaz to save our community?

Chinese President Xi Jinping: Save China’s Largest Ecovillage!

http://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/...est_ecovillage

The event is continuing and anytime it could be getting more serious.Today, those villagers broke our waterpipe in 3 times and won't allow us to fix again. So does the electric power. They do really want us to die now!The policemen said they can't stop those villagers for we are not a legal company.We're now using generator for publishing the news here.If you know media people who can report the event happening in our community, such as oversea medias, newspapers, websites or any medias that can spread such an event to the world , please tell us:

Email: lifechanyuan@sina.cn ( contact: Tongxin / Conglong / Ailian)

Thank you very much! May God bless us! Hugs to you!

[xidaijena]

Posted by blufire (here)
So who contributed all this money to build these communities? You and the others supplied large amounts of sweat equity . . . . who supplied the cash?

All chanyuan celestials contributed all this money to build these communities, including those who are in the outside world. No, I didn't contribute much money to my community for I'm too young and have less money by myself. The one who supplied large amounts of sweat equity and money is our founder — Xuefeng.

So Jena . . . look down the road of who has the money, where the money came from, where all that money went and exactly who is going to be out in the cold upcoming winter in 10 days . . . just you and the other community family and do you get back what you gave when you entered the community life and/or compensated for all the years of work you and the others have done?

I stiil want to say, dear blufire, you have no idea about what the importance of our community or our dream is.

[xidaijena]

Posted by sheme (here)
I was only thinking today that China's roll in the New World order, was ,after all the recent disclosures about clandestine eugenics and population control happening in the rest of the world fairly outstandingly honest - at least the Chinese authorities were up front and let the people know what the plan was - one child for every couple. I am sure if the authorities know what is happening they would assist you.

Doesn't China have a kind of magistrate that travels around sorting out peoples disputes? We had a TV program or 2 here in the UK which showed this service at work, it seemed fair, I was impressed.

I hope corruption and simple minded greedy people fail in their 'take all agenda'. May the Chinese Dragon rise up and stop corruption in it's tracks.

Do not fear or be sad -for your gardens will go where you go, the illusion of Heavenly garden will leave when your community leaves. The usurpers will inherit nothing but the weeds of envy and greed. Peace to you all.

I believe communities like yours are the way forward.

Hi dear sheme, I'm not very sure about whether the centre authorities will assist us or not for they still didn't give us any feedbacks now. I hope they will. Yes, we know many Chinese magistrates' e-mails and media contacts, we had sent e-mails, called but no feedbacks, either.

Thank you for your kind words, we still have faith in God. Yes, we also believe the future of our commmunity or communities like us are so wonderful in the coming era. Hugs to you.

[Anchor]

Posted by xidaijena (here)
Hi dear Anchor, thank you for your quick and great advice, yes, I do really hope Avalon can help us in a more effective way. Yes, we can confirm, can you give me some e-mails? I can ask our sisters and founder Xuefeng to contact them and confirm more detailed. Thank you sooo much. Love & Hugs to you!

You may not have not understood everything I said.

I don't speak on behalf of Avalon.

I speak on my own authority and the certainty that some agree with my words - these people will make themselves known if they have not already.

I know Avalon has been very effective in making changes in the world so I was asking you if you want a similar effort made.

I am and will be happy to be involved in an effort to help you guys with a team of the willing to co-ordinate a focused intent based on envisioning among a team in as coherent a way as possible. When I get involved in this way I require two things: To clearly understand what you want, to ensure freewill of all of your group is respected, also I will also only act in a manner that I know is safe.

I have sent you a private message that expands on this clarification and with my contact details.

There is a reason you came to Avalon, many of us here sense it. I would like to see that your efforts are met with gentle but awesome powers for safe and effective change that we all may wield.

You call yourself celestials - I think this is wonderful. Many here I would call the brothers and sisters of sorrow, wanderers through time and space who heed the call of those who sorrow and come to give aid.

I expect those brothers and sisters on this forum understand the sorrows contained in your story but we at the same time we are also observant of the tremendous light you bring forth.

We too, each in our own way are celestials and I would like to think that many of us can help you - and if I can help rally some coherent effort for you, I will do it.

I look forward to meeting you in the light.

Anchor..

[blufire]

Jena, does your founder and leader, Xuefeng, live in the community? Why is he not the one going out to confront these men and helping you and the others. You have said nothing about him being directly involved. I would think as your founder and spiritual leader he would be there protecting you and especially the children since in10 days you are to be without a home.

To be living without water and electricity especially with winter upon you must be terrifying especially when you have so many older and children in your care.

Thank goodness you must have a good well for water and they haven't damaged this yet and you must have a good generator or solar system for your power. . . . After all you still can use your computer.

As China's best example as an Eco village I'm surprised that these adversary's cutting your power and damaging your water lines is even an issue. I have built 2 completely self sustaining Eco balanced farms and the first things I concentrate on is my own water and power ability. After all this is what being 'eco' means.

And by the way. . . . I think I have a pretty good idea exactly what your community is about.

[Violet]

I'm a bit worried about my previous suggestion being (ab)used to play out the communist-versus-the-rest-of-the-world-card and that's probably not the message your community wants to get across. That's the risk though when asking help from the big ones, abuse.

I was also thinking of the following: why don't you invite other communities or people from outside China, maybe even from Avalon to come and visit you in great numbers on a returning basis. Tell them to bring obvious cameras and when the people that are monitoring you will notice this international attention you're getting, they might be a bit more hesitant to attack you so suddenly again in the future.

[blufire]

Hey Jena! Since your community is known as one of China's biggest and best example as an ecovillage you and the others must be busy working your greenhouses and/or insulated growing tunnels. I couldn't find anything like this on your websites or forum.

Feeding your community sustainably and year round must be a priority. I would love for you to share or direct us to the area on your websites how you are accomplishing this.

I would like to learn from your example as China's Ecovillage.

[blufire]

I am well aware that I am making people upset and angry by challenging ‘Jena’

But ‘she’ is now soliciting emails and contact from people and not only does this include members on Avalon but the thousands of guests that come to this forum.

I feel there are way too many questions and red flags surrounding this ‘community’.

I am just asking that if anyone chooses to contact these people via private emails that you be extremely careful. Do not send money. Do not get involved until you are 100% positive you know exactly with who you are in contact.

I personally do not believe for an instant that ‘xidiajena’ or ‘jena’ is this sweet young woman in the avatar.

Go on all the websites and forum connected with this organization . . . dig deeper people.

Come on Avalon . . . you guys are way more savvy than this . . . .

[Anchor]

Posted by blufire (here)
Come on Avalon . . . you guys are way more savvy than this . . . .

If the lifechanyuan can't dodge a few obviously loaded questions such as the ones you are asking then they wont be able to hold the commune together.

Instead of dancing around your point and being condescending with it, perhaps you could just come right to that point and actually spell out your concerns.

Or do you think you are the only one that can see the potentials at play here and feel we all need to be lead slowly to realization?

Anchor..

[jackovesk]

Posted by xidaijena (here)

Hi dear Nanoo Nanoo, thank you for your kind advice. Yes, you're so right. We have already fortified our front gate and some brothers watch it very carefully. We have 17 brothers and 35 sisters living in my branch (the 4th branch). Well, I had learnt some defence in the outside world. But we will only use civilized ways to fight with them. If they really want to dismiss us by force, may be we will lose our physical bodies. But I believe God will protect us to continue the mission in the new era.

BTW...Can you offer your moral help us to sign and spread the our petition on Avaaz to save our community?

Chinese President Xi Jinping: Save China’s Largest Ecovillage!

http://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/...est_ecovillage

The event is continuing and anytime it could be getting more serious.Today, those villagers broke our waterpipe in 3 times and won't allow us to fix again. So does the electric power. They do really want us to die now!The policemen said they can't stop those villagers for we are not a legal company.We're now using generator for publishing the news here.If you know media people who can report the event happening in our community, such as oversea medias, newspapers, websites or any medias that can spread such an event to the world , please tell us:

Email: lifechanyuan@sina.cn ( contact: Tongxin / Conglong / Ailian)

Thank you very much! May God bless us! Hugs to you!

Posted by xidaijena (here)

Posted by Nasu (here)
Thank you for posting this, like Bill said your vision and situation are special, the work you do is important, thank you. I do not know the locals as you do, nor do I have the understandings that you do, regarding the local political or cultural environment, but I do have one small piece of advice, for what it's worth.

Your old countryman Master Zi or Sun Zu pointed out that if you are weak yet occupy a central position, either geographically or mentally, you should put great effort to make ally's and friends! Make ally's of your neighbor wherever you can. If one or two remain firmly against your position, with work and time, they will become the minority.

Let your enemies plot, while you focus your intentions instead on helping people OUTSIDE of your community, with the support of your wider community you undermine their strength.

Together we are stronger. Love to you, your family and your mission...x... N (holding up one hand with three finger salute)

Hi dear Nasu, thank you for your advice, but now it's not we who make ally's of our neighbor but the vicious authorities of local government.
hey want to scare us. How crazy they are! We just took some pics of the broken asbestos.Their ridiculous behaviors reminded me of those naughty kids in my childhood.

If you know some media people who can report the event happening in our community, such as oversea medias, newspapers, websites or any medias that can spread such an event to the world , please do tell us, we need it urgently:

Email: lifechanyuan@sina.cn ( contact: Tongxin / Conglong / Ailian)

Thank you very much! Hugs.

G'Day xidaijena...

2 things that concern me greatly....

1. Asbestos is (DANGEROUS) & (LETHAL) if you inhail the broken particles. Best to (KEEP AWAY) from it especially when its broken...

2. Avaaz is definitely (NOT) to be trusted, it is a SPY Organisation...

[wisky]

Posted by xidaijena (here)
But from the speeches of Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping on 18th CPC National Congress, we are inspired by his words such as “the people’s yearning for a better life is our goal”, “respect the people’s pioneering spirit”, “the general public cannot be bullied”, “we need to firmly rely on the people”, “people-oriented”, “everything is for the people”, and so on. The decision made on the Third Plenary Session are also inspiring. We seem to see the prospects of the “beautiful China” and our community. Now all these things happened in our community are all controlled by the local govenments.
..........
If he says that we shall dismiss our community, that's no problem, we will do it without any complaints. But now he still doesn't know this matter and the local govenments want to take over our community and dismiss all of us with illegal and crazy methods.There's no way for them to do so! We will protect our community with our lives and fihgt with them by civilized ways.

Hello sis. I really need to say: Namaste. You are indeed a courageous spiritual warrior.

Words are merely words, no matter how beautiful they are. Discernment will be your only sword. Many of your leaders have made many encouraging and ambitious speeches through out the last few decades. Then what? More inspirational speeches come and yet social development is not being guided in that utopian direction, as promised. And truly, if you study recent history of China really well, what happened in last few decades really make people with normal mindset drop their jaws.

I will re-iterate, to achieve your mission, you need to be smarter. These powers that be, with very special mindset, are very good in playing chess and manipulation. I really wish your president is not one of the them that we here talked about a lot. But my intuition is telling me what that could be or could not be.......

"The Great Utopia
What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man has tried to make it his heaven. F. Hoelderlin"

All the best, may the force be with you, good luck!

[Gardener]

I understand what blufire is saying, and I do not consider the residents in these homes as in any way responsible for a scam. When I saw the beautiful place they had made, they had turned a dismal tract of land into a most desirable place for themselves and their families. I wondered how it had been financed.

According to xidaijena all these people put their financial possesions into the project and one 'founder' put a big lump of cash. Am I correct?

Now this improvement to this tract of land has increased its value incredibly, and if someone was sharp enough to use these people to develop the land, and contribute money into it too, someone with a psychopathic pathology might see this as an opportunity to capitalise on the goodwill of a trusting people. Throw them off the land pretending to be local people and council, and take back an already developed site with great value.

I would be investigating the founder.

[Sierra]

Posted by blufire (here)
I am well aware that I am making people upset and angry by challenging ‘Jena’

I personally do not believe for an instant that ‘xidiajena’ or ‘jena’ is this sweet young woman in the avatar.

Come on Avalon . . . you guys are way more savvy than this . . . .

I find this so annoying. blufire, you have said yourself, you make no judgements whatsoever on the ethics or morality of a position (re the dreadful Monsanto).

I no longer judge or process information from a ‘good’ or ‘evil’ labeling . . .no light or dark. . . no dualism. I am sitting flat in the middle of the road. All I Know and understand now is only clear if I stay very balanced and unpolarized. Our human dualistic nature keeps us confused, unbalanced, chaotic and fearful.

Sooo ... Suddenly you have judgements to make? Criticisms to share on a commune that seems to completely negate your position on GMOs?

I think your well known Monsanto agenda is driving your position of condescension, hostility and negativity towards these farmers. (Oh and you dislike and criticize Bill's Ecuador project as well)

Since you insist on parking your discriminatory abilities at the door, thank goodness you are the boss of YOUR discernment. ONLY..

Sierra