Prisoners of Titan

[Chanlo23]

Yesterday, i was reading Tesla's thread on Egypt/Titan, and started remembering an RV session I had. I felt compelled to put together some of the images I was seeing. After I finished it, I couldn't sleep and kept being awakened by a hyper bright light outside my window that would grow dark after I was awake again.

The old stories of mythological Egypt say that Osiris traveled to the land of the dead and returned. The truth was that he, like many earth dwellers, was taken prisoner on Titan. My belief is that he was not the first to be taken, but he is one of the few who were later rescued by Andromedans and returned to his home world. The Osiris who 'rose from the dead' was a clone, and he was not the only one who has lived and died on planet earth.

Were YOU one of those imprisoned on Titan?

How many of you were held there? How many are still there?

Do you remember what the traps looked like?

Do you recall what the flavor merchants who run it look like?

What enticements did they use to keep you there? Were you one who was promised intense joy?

Do you still have your joy implant? What were you promised if you stayed?

Are you still waiting for payment?

[Bob]

Is this close for that "Flavor-Merchant" image? The proboscis maybe a bit more narrow in actuality.

[Hughe]

Lou Baldin aka Sleeper's Answers on ATS.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47sleep.../Sleeper-1.pdf

His website is http://www.ufolou.com/
Lou Baldin wrote a book 'A Day with an Extraterrestrial'. It has good portion of Saturn's moon including habitable places in our solar system.

[Bob]

Posted by Hughe (here)
Lou Baldin aka Sleeper's Answers on ATS.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47sleep.../Sleeper-1.pdf

His website is http://www.ufolou.com/
Lou Baldin wrote a book 'A Day with an Extraterrestrial'. It has good portion of Saturn's moon including habitable places in our solar system.

What a fantastic read there Hughe - has Lou ever ventured to visit Avalon?

[Chanlo23]

Posted by Bobd (here)
Is this close for that "Flavor-Merchant" image?

Very similar!

[Chanlo23]

Thanks Hughe! Interesting PDF too!

[Freed Fox]

Additional questions I think you should ask;

Are you certain that TITAN was the prison?

Are you certain that you're not in prison now?

[Chanlo23]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
Additional questions I think you should ask; Are you certain that TITAN was the prison?
Are you certain that you're not in prison now?

There many prisons in many physical and interdimensional places. This thread is about those on TITAN. You may be in prison here or there or elsewhere. Or not.

What can you tell me about your experiences with the flavor merchants?

[Freed Fox]

Posted by Chanlo23 (here)
What can you tell me about your experiences with the flavor merchants?

I'm not sure if that question is addressed to me in particular, someone else, or to everyone in general. If it is the former, I don't have any (or, I don't recall any).

Also, for those interested, here is the link to Tesla's thread mentioned in the OP:
Egypt's Pyramids, the Logarithmic Golden Mean Spiral, and Space Flight

(At least, I believe this is the one you were referring to Chanlo. Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Chanlo23]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
Also, for those interested, here is the link to Tesla's thread mentioned in the OP:
Egypt's Pyramids, the Logarithmic Golden Mean Spiral, and Space Flight

Yes! Thanks Freed. That thread triggered recall of several different RV sessions in which I've participated.

[Bob]

As to the "capture and contain" traps..

Here are some observations..

The towers in your top image have a sphere near the top - that is where the prisoners would be kept.

The sphere geometry :

The function inside the sphere - inside it is highly silvered, conductive and reflective. There are two or three vibrational points on the sphere to keep the surface vibrating and those within placated, or not desiring to "leave". Any creations inside are hierarchial. Different layers exist inside due to the different vibrational "focal points" from the complex vibration on the shell. This vibrational focal point "layering" resembles Dante's multiple layers of "Hell". Strange that Dante would define "Hell" as what looks like one of the "prison" spheres.. The vibration shown below is typical of one mode of "spherical vibration". Inside the "sphere" would be a type of jell which holds "charges" in place. The first "image" used as the "trap" is the light-in-the-tunnel (shown representatively in the sphere image above right). I may later in the thread post a snippet of one of the "capture" vibrations used to hold the "spirit/soul" (based on "aesthetics"). Notice Dante in the "layers of Hell" put the River near the surface layer - the silver surface when vibrating would appear to "look" like ripples in "water".

Ref - Circular layers of Hell

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[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Posted by Chanlo23 (here)
Yesterday, i was reading Tesla's thread on Egypt/Titan, and started remembering an RV session I had. I felt compelled to put together some of the images I was seeing. After I finished it, I couldn't sleep and kept being awakened by a hyper bright light outside my window that would grow dark after I was awake again.

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The old stories of mythological Egypt say that Osiris traveled to the land of the dead and returned. The truth was that he, like many earth dwellers, was taken prisoner on Titan. My belief is that he was not the first to be taken, but he is one of the few who were later rescued by Andromedans and returned to his home world. The Osiris who 'rose from the dead' was a clone, and he was not the only one who has lived and died on planet earth.

Were YOU one of those imprisoned on Titan?

How many of you were held there? How many are still there?

Do you remember what the traps looked like?

Do you recall what the flavor merchants who run it look like?

What enticements did they use to keep you there? Were you one who was promised intense joy?

Do you still have your joy implant? What were you promised if you stayed?

Are you still waiting for payment?

Chanlo, thank you for reading my threads. Sometimes things just "come" to people, especially when our race as a whole faces a moral dilemma or a safety concern.

Your post raises an interesting idea, thinking of our solar system as what's left over from an ancient community;
i.e. what would it have been like to live during a time when there was intelligent life on more than one planet (or moon) in the same system?

That sounds like a stretch -- but we are about to re-enter the age in which people do live on neighboring celestial bodies.

Whether or not "moon prisons" and the like may have existed in the past, the important thing to keep in mind is that with all the recent news and space agencies competing for information and access to space objects other than earth, we as humans and intelligent beings must ensure that our explorations and conquests of our local solar system correspond with our moral beliefs and humane behavior.

Whether or not Titan or other places harbored life in the past, it's entirely possible that in the near future (as humans factor it), there could well be penal colonies on the Moon or other regions of our solar system -- it's our responsibility to anticipate these events and translate them into a form understood by moralizers.

I think your impression of prisons on moons raises a good ethical question for agencies like NASA -- will our space agencies cooperate with evil authorities and use their technology for the imprisonment of man, or will NASA and its counterparts use their technologies to liberate mankind?

thank you for reading my threads and giving them so much thought.
I hadn't even considered the ethical implications of local space travel and colonization until seeing your own thread -- so kudos to you!

Be careful not to let foreign entities distract you from what's good for our own species -- but the idea of being incarcerated on other planets and their moons is a real threat that modern humans definitely do face today.

There wouldn't be films like Blade Runner and Pluto Nash if we weren't on the edge of a new space age.

p.s. for those wondering what I posted in the earlier threads, well, the Golden Mean/Egypt thread was about the mathematics expressed by the pyramids and how that math correlates to techniques used by modern space agencies to slingshot around our solar system using gravity of local bodies. i.e. probes to Mars using earth's gravity and the sun's gravity to swing around and reach mars. I sincerely believe that the Pharaohs had some type of inspiration for the math they used, much like the Bolivian sun gate builders, and that these great leaders left the record of their math behind for modern space travelers to observe and enjoy.

the thread about Titan (if I recall correctly) spoke of the conditions that give rise to the formation of DNA -- life at its most fundamental level. which brings to mind a recent thread by another user (about DNA), in which DNA was found to have a "ghost" or non-material lattice. Titan's proximity to Saturn's bizarre radiation patterns, including rotational fields, and its own possession of the building blocks of life, led me to wonder if at the microbial level, Titan produces or harbors the building blocks of life, and if life on planets like Earth and Mars benefited at one time by these amazing "microbial generators" on moons like Titan.

my third thread dealt with the idea that Mars was once rich with life or its precursors, and that a catastrophic impact event stripped that planet of its rich oceans and thick atmosphere. which is kind of what NASA said today, except they blamed solar wind for a lot of that.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

p.s. Chanlo, I wanted to tell you something else that is interesting, about RV and psychic experience --

you shouldn't feel bad for having trouble recalling, remembering, or capturing a concept.

Because many authors of books on the paranormal, namely paranormal experiences, state in no uncertain terms that psychic manifestations are sometimes nigh-impossible to recall easily.

We tend to forget these manifestations, similarly to abductees, because of the way that the brain works while people are in the precognitive state.

The brain waves of a conscious person are not the same as those of a person who is future-telling or reliving the past through visions.

that's why we have so much trouble recalling events and piecing them together, as "psychics".

p.s. I am starting to believe that the only miracle in our universe is the occasional discovery of good record keeping.

hence my gratitude to the pharaohs.

p.p.s. people tend to doubt claircognizance because: it's technically easier to recall a delusion than a prophecy.

[Chanlo23]

Thanks, Everyone! Your posts are clearing out the distractions - I'm starting to connect some dots!

[Bob]

Conversion of Optical Scan to AUDIO

I've run some conversions of this optical pix of Titan-Saturn to audio, so that one can "hear/feel" what an optical image is like as SOUND.

It's not music, but it is dimensionalized.

This is a development that I did some years ago from studying dolphin communications, and dolphin holograms. The technique converts the placement of the objects, their frequency resonances (their waveshapes in other words), and their color and intensity into an audio matrix. The audio matrix then is adjusted in frequency range for the human nervous system to "pick it up" and sort it to be able to get the experience in ways they normal would not be able to do from JUST a picture.

See what you pick up. I set this up to work with both speakers, laptop speakers and headphones. The frequencies are pretty low for some of the objects, so having some good bass speakers or good wideband full spectrum headphones may be helpful. It's an interesting technique. Dolphin use the technique to form images and get even "more" data out of the relationships. De Le Warr used a crude version in his aura camera to extract time/space data from an object plus a thought (for tuning).

and a snippet for audio of the above

(the full length file, about about 5 min, is here: http://www.chanlo.com/images/titan-1.mp3 - this longer file does need full spectrum headphones for playback, right click on the link, do a SAVE AS to the desktop, about 4.8 megabytes file size, and play from the computer)

[Chanlo23]

Awesome! The amount of data present is incredible. Thanks BobD!

[Chanlo23]

Taking another look at the spires on Titan, I realized they are using a very similar mechanism to what was used in Egypt to entrap (yet keep the soul attached), particularly around Heliopolis, where souls and partial soul energy were embedded in animal mummies and used as power generator/batteries.

Didn’t they utilize a bitumin mixture for entombing there, as part of the sucking/pulling in and trapping mechanism? I believe some type of charged plasma was used in the spire monuments on Titan. BobD, what has your research shown ?

[Bob]

Howdy Chanlo

From Divine creatures: animal mummies in ancient Egypt - edited by Dr. Salima Ikram

She is a brilliant Egyptologist. I enjoyed my personal 2 week experience with her in the 90's in Egypt exploring various aspects.

From her Preface to the above book.. the properly encapsulated mummy was the soul repository. A sacred worshiped entity/body combination was sought after. What would it mean to have a soul then "captured", present with one, entombed ? Ability to use that "energy" (Soul) in some way? Maybe..

If we look at the map she has put together of all the different places across Egypt, we find that this is not a simple bury a few bodies here and there.. She reports MILLIONS of these mummies exist across Egypt. My experience first hand with this phenomenon was at Heliopolis in the Catacombs back in the late 80's.. very interesting place..

Describing in detail past the legend on the map, these specific communities have located within or nearby various burial sites, and catacombs, or repositories for such mummies:

Of the locations in the places above, I had personally been to and witnessed phenomenon and mummies and or artifacts at these locations:
Abydos, Alexandria, Asyut, Beni Hasan, Dendera, Edfu, Elephantine, Esna, Heliopolis, Kom Ombo, Krokodilopolis, Saqqara, Thebes, Tuna al Gabel, and of course the various museums in Cairo, Luxor, and near Aswan.

The "energies" are present. It is similar to going to a zoo, and doing an OBE contact with one of the residents. Or better still, anyone who has a wild wolf as a "pet", you know how the mind of the animal can go "inside of you", and get in your etheric space... you know there is a powerful presence there and it is not something to idly "toy with".

Egypt can rightly be said to be the place of origin of real "magic". Soul and spirit body magic, environmental magic, and assorted other sciences as we know today.

See Budge, Egyptian Magic - http://rbedrosian.com/Downloads/Budg...tian_magic.pdf for a very good history.

From his Preface:
"A STUDY of the remains of the native religious literature of ancient Egypt which have come down to us has revealed the fact that the belief in magic, that is to say, in the power of magical names, and spells, and enchantments, and formulae, and pictures, and figures,
and amulets, and in the performance of ceremonies accompanied by the utterance of words of power, to produce supernatural results, formed a large and important part of the Egyptian religion.

"And it is certain that, notwithstanding the continuous progress which the Egyptians made in civilization, and the high intellectual development to which they eventually attained, this belief influenced their minds and, from the earliest to the latest period of their history, shaped their views concerning things temporal as well as spiritual in a manner which, at this stage in the history of the world, is very difficult to understand."

Normal "Science" doesn't have explanations for such workings, capturing the "spirit", life essence, and then using it for personal goals.

Entombed preserved spirit/soul could be said to be in the crudest terms analogous to how a battery these days is used.. used to "run" some sort of machine which carries out the desires of the operator.

Other forum threads have talked about archons, parasites, soul suckers, soul manipulators on and on - to not repeat all of those threads once again, any interested reader can go looking in the forum and elsewhere and see the various discussions.

I can speak from first hand experience "being there" having gone to the places, and felt the "energies" - as of the date witnessing such, it exists, and I have no reason to disbelieve that it would not still exist and not still be being used, the techniques, extraction methods, and application of said "energies" to accomplish only God knows what..

[Bob]

Posted by Chanlo23 (here)
Taking another look at the spires on Titan, I realized they are using a very similar mechanism to what was used in Egypt to entrap (yet keep the soul attached), particularly around Heliopolis, where souls and partial soul energy were embedded in animal mummies and used as power generator/batteries.

Didn’t they utilize a bitumin mixture for entombing there, as part of the sucking/pulling in and trapping mechanism? I believe some type of charged plasma was used in the spire monuments on Titan. BobD, what has your research shown ?

There were many more places than just Heliopolis - I have done a separate post in this thread on that. Bitumen (sorta like a heavy coal/oil tar like material) is a very strong dielectric substance able to hold charges. If the charges are held in a structural form, a very dense quantum prison can be created for the "information".

The scientific explanation of spirit/soul is defined as the sum total of neural sensory experiences stored both inside and outside of the physical body.

Cellular polymers, nerve ending groupings, expressing information and reacting to information triggers encodes the essence of "self".

Jostle in new patterns or connection and "identity" or the skill level, belief level, how one view's oneself or external reality changes.

If the "change phenomenon" didn't happen with any strong changes in the neural "wiring" we could easily lead ourselves to assume that "soul" was always detached from body.. Therefore, any method to capture and preserve the neural patterns and relationships, "should" adequately capture enough information about soul/self to keep the "identity" intact.

ref: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21278697 borrowed consciousness after brain injury

ref: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...-change-part-i personality changed after brain injury

ref: http://www.nbcnews.com/health/differ...oll-8C11152322 a different person is there..

[johnf]

I have had a long standing interest in Egypt, and specifically Osiris.
Back in the eighties I spent a lot of time on memory recovery techniques.
In one session I was dealing with a memory of entering this system and was captured
and took on the identity of Jehovah.
I am pretty sure the techniques we were using were not up to the task of resolving whatever real phenomena
was occurring at the time.
I also ran into similar things with the greek pantheon, and have run into various people whom I "felt" were this figure or that,
from various mythologies and religions.
There is one person that I ran into that was fully convinced that i was Osiris, and there were other people in that group that
I felt were other Gods and Goddesses from Egypt.
At this point I feel rather sheepish about these feelings, but I am sure there are hidden causes for this phenomenon.
At times these ideas come up and I receive little insights about them.
One such idea was that I had picked up these "memories", or connections as part of a process of phasing into the space time continuum of this planet.
I do not have any physical life type memories of any of this, and no astral ones that have any substance.
So the descriptions of the prisons etc, do not really bring up anything for me other than that Saturn is highly significant
in holding beings into this system.
After reading this thread though, and making connections with my experiences I think that the subject of clearing these memories, or whatever they really are is very important to changing how things are done on this planet.

jf