Crazy China! Forty People Broke into the 4th Branch of Our Community Without Any Lawful Documents!

[Rocky_Shorz]

many here at Avalon are chuckling out of all of our members, I am the only one you ignore...

a messenger of God would not have had an accident in 2003, his car would have hopped over the other one...

a messenger of God is kept humble, and not have millions to invest in multi million dollar developments.

I call your leader forward, to join us at Avalon and share all of his universal wisdoms, he will be dealing with those who know answers.

Bill, Anchor and many other here have said they are all for your community, but we are talking about a leader who wants to spread his vision around the world for prophet... and I mean that just how it sounds. we have the power to sweep your problems away, but I am bowing out on this one, your leader is responsible for all of your pains...

for you, I send warm healing and forgiveness, you will feel it as you read this message, I am sorry, but he isn't who he says...

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
you need to understand in America we read of Cults all the time, always negatively, yes community living is a dream for many at Avalon, but you are keeping very quiet about...

The Noah's Ark for 2012 is Lifechanyuan !The founder of Lifechanyuan is Guider Xuefeng who is the messenger of the Greatest Creator(God), and the incarnation of Jesus Christ and Baddha Sakyamuni. He came here to gather the ripen crops...


Why we shall believe in Mr Xuefeng ?

Because Guide Xuefeng is the only one who can truthfully explains the origin of the universe, the mystery of LIFE, and the true meaning of life by the integration of Christianity, Catholicism, Islam, and Buddhism, Taoism, science, Mao Zedong thought ; He is the only one who can show the view of 36-dimension space,especially the real vision of the perfect Thousand-year world, the immortal Ten-thousand-year world and Buddha-the Elysium World to human beings based on the interpretation of Time, Space and direct a bright and wonderful future for human beings. He is the messenger of the Greatest Creator and an angel sent by Jesus Chirst to harvest the ripe crops at the end of the world...

now if you came to Avalon to say Jesus Christ and Buddha's incarnate needs our help saving your community...

We would have many questions like why doesn't he turn the local village's water into wine and knock them all out?

as I said you have joined a gathering of the gifted, so we understand, but also know why you are getting the negative attention, because of your exposure on the web...

what's known doesn't always have to be shared with those outside of your communities.

what you are advertising is you have a cult who's owner is God-s right hand angel and he's coming to kill his followers and take them away...

[Milneman]

Posted by blufire (here)
I am well aware that I am making people upset and angry by challenging ‘Jena’

But ‘she’ is now soliciting emails and contact from people and not only does this include members on Avalon but the thousands of guests that come to this forum.

I feel there are way too many questions and red flags surrounding this ‘community’.

I am just asking that if anyone chooses to contact these people via private emails that you be extremely careful. Do not send money. Do not get involved until you are 100% positive you know exactly with who you are in contact.

I personally do not believe for an instant that ‘xidiajena’ or ‘jena’ is this sweet young woman in the avatar.

Go on all the websites and forum connected with this organization . . . dig deeper people.

Come on Avalon . . . you guys are way more savvy than this . . . .

Isn't that an example of a violation of our community guidelines, blu?

4. SELF-PROMOTION

Everyone joined this forum to discuss our material, not to hear others showcase theirs. Members who insist on promoting / showcasing themselves, their own websites, philosophies, products, services or other unrelated teachings will be unsubscribed.
Links in your signature that point to any website which offers products or services for purchasing are not permitted, If you want to promote a product or service that relates to the mission of Project Avalon please ask a Moderator before you post.

Just sayin. I agree with you so far, and I'm only a few posts in past where I left off...I needed a break from this...muck. lol

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'm starting to wonder if she put me on ignore, can someone reply to my last message?

[Milneman]

Why, why do I feel I have to wade into this. I've taken a few days to process this entire thing.

Reason I think I get so uppity is because I love you guys, and I feel protective of this place and the people who've really helped me these last weeks. It's an emotional response. But it also can cloud my judgment, so I'm going to step out of that as best I can and assess the situation.

Let's say you live on a cul-de-sac, with your significant other, and your two children. One day, your children come home and tell you about a new neighbour who's moved in named Jesus. He's a carpenter by trade, goes fishing every once and a while, but seems like a really ballance, really thoughtful, really nice guy. You talk about this with your significant other: the kids seem to have really changed over the last few weeks spending time with Jesus! They're more well mannered, they offer to help out more, they treat you and each other with respect...you're thinking, this Jesus guy is really something!

And then.....

One night at dinner, the kids start telling you that Jesus says he existed before time, and has always been. They tell you Jesus says he will come back at the end of time to judge the living and the dead, among other things! Surprised you spit your peas and carrots over the table?

Why do we make that judgement, that gut reaction of "what the heck! that's insanity!" It's because even though most of us here at Avalon have common beliefs, we each have a very different set of world views, and ideas within those world views. So we're each looking at this situation through our own set of glasses, as it were, and some people are seeing this eco village, some people are seeing the violence that's being documented, some are seeing the flags about dollar signs, etc etc etc.

One thing that nobody seems to notice though....we're still thinking about Lifechanyuan. And that's the real point I think.

I don't wish pain, or suffering, on anyone. I don't think any of us do. We want to see a world that's better, we all want to be part of that change, and we don't want anyone pointing fingers at us saying we're part of the problem, right?

So, let's take an honest look at what this group is about. If it fits your world view, and your beliefs, support it any way you can. If it doesn't, don't. I don't need to raise it up or knock it down. I will let them speak for themselves. After all, I think they say it better than anyone here could.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LD8xDnDb1Go

Regardless of Lifechanyuan, you guys have made a difference in my life. You really have. I'm going to modify my reactions...but I'm human, and I guarantee I'm going to mess up. Just sayin. I've been protective because like I said...I love you guys. I love this group. Jena's part of it too. Maybe, through some act of co-incidence she's reading/seeing something she needs to see.

You guys are my heros.

[Milneman]

Hi Skippy. I'm not ignoring you. Done.

[skippy]

Posted by Milneman (here)
Why, why do I feel I have to wade into this. I've taken a few days to process this entire thing.

Reason I think I get so uppity is because I love you guys, and I feel protective of this place and the people who've really helped me these last weeks. It's an emotional response. But it also can cloud my judgment, so I'm going to step out of that as best I can and assess the situation.

Let's say you live on a cul-de-sac, with your significant other, and your two children. One day, your children come home and tell you about a new neighbour who's moved in named Jesus. He's a carpenter by trade, goes fishing every once and a while, but seems like a really ballance, really thoughtful, really nice guy. You talk about this with your significant other: the kids seem to have really changed over the last few weeks spending time with Jesus! They're more well mannered, they offer to help out more, they treat you and each other with respect...you're thinking, this Jesus guy is really something!

And then.....

One night at dinner, the kids start telling you that Jesus says he existed before time, and has always been. They tell you Jesus says he will come back at the end of time to judge the living and the dead, among other things! Surprised you spit your peas and carrots over the table?

Why do we make that judgement, that gut reaction of "what the heck! that's insanity!" It's because even though most of us here at Avalon have common beliefs, we each have a very different set of world views, and ideas within those world views. So we're each looking at this situation through our own set of glasses, as it were, and some people are seeing this eco village, some people are seeing the violence that's being documented, some are seeing the flags about dollar signs, etc etc etc.

One thing that nobody seems to notice though....we're still thinking about Lifechanyuan. And that's the real point I think.

I don't wish pain, or suffering, on anyone. I don't think any of us do. We want to see a world that's better, we all want to be part of that change, and we don't want anyone pointing fingers at us saying we're part of the problem, right?

So, let's take an honest look at what this group is about. If it fits your world view, and your beliefs, support it any way you can. If it doesn't, don't. I don't need to raise it up or knock it down. I will let them speak for themselves. After all, I think they say it better than anyone here could.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LD8xDnDb1Go

Regardless of Lifechanyuan, you guys have made a difference in my life. You really have. I'm going to modify my reactions...but I'm human, and I guarantee I'm going to mess up. Just sayin. I've been protective because like I said...I love you guys. I love this group. Jena's part of it too. Maybe, through some act of co-incidence she's reading/seeing something she needs to see.

You guys are my heros.

Great post Milneman. Keep on posting and messing up. Appreciated

[Rocky_Shorz]

smiles...

I take on Hitler truths...
I take on the Vatican, the dang pope sits in my chair...
a million died after God's messages, not to prove to anyone who I am, except me...
a pain you never understand, but can only share with those who listen
an hour after looking into Pope B's atrocities and saying time for change here in this forum, he retired, an hour later the Vatican was struck by lightning confirming God is pissed. They say this is the last pope, one really isn't needed, the split between sunni and shia is done...

"the Will of God is Peace" is their first and only commandment...

it is time to unite the middle east, and as King David II through divine destiny, I call for world peace, we have grown up, wars are no longer an answer...

Bankers, too large to fail, are the world enemies

let them crash, people are the only valuables in this world

nothing else matters...

we care for you and all of your children that are part of your community, but we create changes for the better.

maybe this is meant in moving forward...

If a man of God stepped forward, and waves his hand, the ones attacking your community would suddenly feel a peace they have never experienced before, why hasn't your leader joined you?

[Milneman]

Maybe he's at the dinner table, cleaning up the peas and carrots everyone is spitting out. :D

Sorry...I couldn't help myself. Bad Milneman. No cookie. Go to your room.

[Anchor]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I'm starting to wonder if she put me on ignore, can someone reply to my last message?

Sometimes even english people can't understand you and so I don't rate the chances of a chinese with english as a second/third language

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I'm starting to wonder if she put me on ignore, can someone reply to my last message?

Sometimes even english people can't understand you and so I don't rate the chances of a chinese with english as a second/third language

just cause yall down under don't hear my words, doesn't mean you don't feel my love...

dude, you've helped in changing the world, all I can do is smile and bow to your awesomeness...

[Violet]

Posted by xidaijena (here)

Posted by Violet (here)
So Jena, I've been wanting to ask you about the granddaughter thing.

The only "relative" connection I knew so far was that we be the children of God. When you say granddaughter you're skipping one generation. In my perception that looks like distancing yourself from God somewhat, but I think that's probably not what you mean...

What does it mean?

Hi dear Violet, please have a read of Lifechanyuan values:

"5、The Relationship in Emotions

Though we were not created by the Greatest Creator directly, the source of life came from the Greatest Creator. Nothing would have existed without it.

If there was no Greatest Creator, there would be no God or Evil. If there was no God or Evil, there would be no human beings. That is to say, there would be no human beings without the Greatest Creator.

As far as “the blood relationship” is concerned, the Greatest Creator is the father of the God and Evil. The God is the father of the human beings and the Evil is the uncle, which means the Greatest Creator is the grandfather of human beings.

Jesus called the Greatest Creator as the Father because he was created by the Greatest Creator. However, if human beings also call the Greatest Creator as the Father, we would put us in the equal position as Jesus, which has violated the relational ethics. Because Jesus and other God created us as required by the Greatest Creator, the Father of human beings is the God, instead of the Greatest Creator.

From the perspective of relationships, the Greatest Creator is our grandfather while Jesus and other Gods are our fathers, and Satan and other Evils are our uncles. The celestial being is the senior life form of human beings and the Buddha is the highest life form of human beings.

The grandfather always loves the grandson. Also the father always loves his son. If we respect the grandfather and do not anger him, we will have a bright future. Even when father and uncle punish us, if we get the love and favor from our grandfather, the father or uncle would have to let us go because they respect the Greatest Creator."

~Read more: Eight Relationships Between the Greatest Creator and Humans

http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.ph...extra=page%3D2

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Know more about the origin of humanity:

"In about 1,600,000 years ago, in order not to let the earth become idle, the Greatest Creator designed a life structure himself, which is the draft version of current humans. He then gave the “design paper” to Jesus and let him to implement. The helpers of Jesus, celestials, started to make new lives according to this design. In order to receive the energy of the Greatest Creator sending from the universe, also to accumulate energy for creating this special new life and speed up the process, they built many laboratories in the place where now is Egypt. These “laboratories” are exactly the well-known pyramids of Egypt. Because of the lack of experience and some steps were missed, the first lives they made were monkeys, and then after were apes, of course, this wouldn’t please the Greatest Creator, so they continued testing and making. The first group of human they successfully made are the black men in Africa, and the second group are native Indians in America, the third are the white men in Europe, Egypt and North Africa. When they finished producing three groups of human, they started to evacuate, and in order to avoid Satan creating difficulties again, they destroyed everything around the Pyramids before they left, which is also why Sahara is a desert today.

But, where do most people in Middle East come from except Egyptian?

They are the descendants of Adam and Eve as what says in Bible, they were created by another god. This god knew that his “rival” started to create humans on earth. He created a secret garden of “Eden” in about 7,000 years ago at Jerusalem, and made Adam and Eve, after they were created, he destroyed the“Eden” to avoid the attention of his “rival”.

This is why Cain was afraid that “everyone that findeth me shall slay me”. Who was he afraid of? The humans created by another god.

This is why his god still protected him even Cain killed his brother. (whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold)

So today’s conflicts between Israelite and Palestinian are actually the conflicts between brothers and are family affairs.

And let’s now talk about East Asian and Southeast Asian, they were not created by any god at all, they were the embodiments of dinosaur. At about 7500 years ago, when the pair of dinosaur knew that celestials created human on the earth, they sneaked from the sea, and changed into human form, started to propagate along the Yellow River, and the descendants gradually spread all over Asia. One of the groups went upwards, crossed the Pamirs to India; they want to mingle with the descendants of Adam and Eve to avoid the punishment of the Greatest Creator again.

This is why Chinese people always say, “China is the hometown of dragon, and Chinese are the descendants of dragon.”

~from The Origin of Humanity - Celestials Creating Human

http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.ph...extra=page%3D1

Read more about the origin of Humanity from here:

http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.ph...isplay&fid=199

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Not very easy to believe, but it's really so interesting. I like to read the origin of humanity very much.

Okay, Jena, thanks so much. I'll try to read the whole text soon, just a small question on first sight.

Why did the Greatest Creator (which I take to be the God in "God's granddaughter") create another God(s) and
a) have them share names. They're all Gods, just different Gods on different levels, but all Gods essentially;
b) expects to then amidst all created Gods still be the only and/or greatest God?

Isn't that needlessly complicating matters? Does it have a deeper purpose?

I'm aware that the answer may just lie in the text you've provided, if so then you don't have to copy it, but just tell me and I'll go looking for it later on but this was just a first idea that came up right now. Either how, thanks for your time and you are giving it away so freely in your difficult situation.

Has anything beneficial been reached yet by your efforts online?

[Anchor]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
just cause yall down under don't hear my words, doesn't mean you don't feel my love...

Never questioned it for a moment.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Jena, offer the village a 1% land tax, they say it is worth 4M so offer 40,000 a year to the local economy in exchange for privacy and expansion permissions.

[xidaijena]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Hi Jena, I guess my question was buried in discussions so thought I would ask again a little on your beliefs, January 25th 2013, it the 400th day after the Mayan Calendar ended and known as the Day of New Beginning.

We are a community of the gifted, and more than willing to help when we understand what we are helping.

Can you explain briefly of what you are looking forward to in 2013 and why those associated with your community are the lucky ones? thx

Hi dear Rocky, this is what I'm waiting for all the time, and maybe so are some Chanyuan Celestials. (Not all chanyuan celestials believe and hope to see the calamity coming.)

Planet X as MONSTER Persona Captured on Stereo Ahead

http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.ph...hread&tid=6623

Guide Xuefeng also waits for the big change. He saw some situation which once shared with us. And I was luckily told by some of my outside friends who could see some special situation the same as Guide Xuefeng shared.

How To Prepare for The Coming Changes & NIBIRU (Planet X)?

http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.ph...extra=page%3D1

I need to tell all of you here, all these things are my own belief, I said that I was saved by God, and God let me know a little about it, I feel so grateful about all these things. But whether it's true or false, I don't know, either. Only God knows that day.

[panopticon]

Posted by Violet (here)
Why did the Greatest Creator (which I take to be the God in "God's granddaughter") create another God(s) and
a) have them share names. They're all Gods, just different Gods on different levels, but all Gods essentially;
b) expects to then amidst all created Gods still be the only and/or greatest God?

Isn't that needlessly complicating matters? Does it have a deeper purpose?

This follows fairly well Chinese Buddhist religious cosmology. In particular the inclusion of "buddha lands" (usually referred to in Chan and Daoism as "pure lands") as part of the Mahayana tradition (of which Chan Buddhism is a part) seems to be, at least in part, inspiration for the various Chanyuan texts I've read so far.

The use of the "Greatest Creator" is a twist in the traditional viewpoint, as I understand it, however this is easily understood by replacing the Judeo-Christian understanding of a personified deity with the Daoist/Chan conceptualisation of "Tao" or "Dao". It is interesting though as the notion of a first being, or personified primal essence, is not part of Chinese culture, again as I understand it, and I think this shows the influence Western dogma has on developing belief systems. Notice in the Chanyuan literature the use of Jesus, Buddha, Muhammed and a number of uniquely Judeo-Christian biblical stories (in particular the story about Noah is prominent as is a reliance on aspects from Revelations).

I hope all is well with Jena and she can get back and explain her personal understanding of these things as the practices of this group are unfamiliar to me and I may be misrepresenting certain aspects due to my knowledge of other systems.

As a Permaculture advocate I admire the work that has been done and the use of Mollison and Holmgren's systems. Good to see one of the Panya Project members showing plant guild development in one of the lifechanyuan village development videos as well as the Konohana Family eco-village project out near Mt. Fuji. There are a lot of projects like this going on around the world and while I don't understand the details of the belief system underlying this particular group I appreciate that they are part of a wider movement, occurring around the world in many developed and developing countries, that's always good to hear about.

-- Pan

[Rocky_Shorz]

Dear Jena,

the celestials you've known are nothing compared to the ones you just met...

By making that offer, you are giving the village more than they expected and passing on the blessings you have all been given through being who you are.

this will give you time to get national support...

[xidaijena]

Things become worse in my branch. Frankly speaking, it's the fist time I experience such kind of thing in my 25 years on Mother Earth ( I mean this lifetime).

When watching all these crazy events and those villagers' rude behaviors, I was a liar if I tell you that I had no fear. Though I have strong faith in God, I'm still too young to peacefully face. But I don't hate them or feel very angry with them. I just hope we won't be hurt very badly, and hope more peace from God will come into our and these villagers' hearts. Including the local governments.

I'm so grateful that all of you here are staying with me. And my beloved sisters and brothers are living with me.

Below things in my heart are very sure:

The big change will come soon.
Our community will win at last.
None of us who are living in the community now will leave Mother Earth before the big change comes.
The new era is very wonderful.

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Now I need more positive energy to tell my ego to be fearless.

Share some nice quotes to encourage myself . Hugs to all of you here.

[xidaijena]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Jena, offer the village a 1% land tax, they say it is worth 4M so offer 40,000 a year to the local economy in exchange for privacy and expansion permissions.

It's one of their excuses, dear Rocky. Things are much more complex. Thank you for your advice, but we won't do that.

[xidaijena]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Dear Jena,

the celestials you've known are nothing compared to the ones you just met...

By making that offer, you are giving the village more than they expected and passing on the blessings you have all been given through being who you are.

this will give you time to get national support...

It's not in accord with our values. We won't do that, and now we don't have enough money to offer them for we are a nonprofit community. These villagers were hired by the local governments.

[Rocky_Shorz]

ignorance can never be fought by thought...

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Posted by xidaijena (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Dear Jena,

the celestials you've known are nothing compared to the ones you just met...

By making that offer, you are giving the village more than they expected and passing on the blessings you have all been given through being who you are.

this will give you time to get national support...

It's not in accord with our values. We won't do that, and now we don't have enough money to offer them for we are a nonprofit community. These villagers were hired by the local governments.

your leader has the funds to save the village...

he is now connected to Avalon and being pulled here for answers...